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Hudsucker
11-29-2011, 03:16 PM
Simply put, what are your first impressions? It's been about two weeks now, and I'm wondering how it looks like in the long hall.

I was on blue today and it seemed like the community there was alive and well, (and, more importantly, fun to be around)

I've seen a lot of posts hating on red's lack of language skills/intelligence/empathy

and I'm wondering... is that true? Is red doomed to be some sort of monster of nerd rage or can I look forward to a fun server with an added dynamic of killing girlyman elves?

HippoNipple
11-29-2011, 03:24 PM
I am not a hardcore player and I have been fine during actual game play so far, but I have been avoiding players for the most part unless they are in my guild. If you need a group I would advise to get a guild with a healthy population.

As for nerd-raging, yes all the highest levels are nerd-ragers but you most likely won't have much contact with them for a couple months anyways. By that time there will be enough high levels to where they will be insignificant anyways.

Currently the nerd-ragers are all exploiting every bit of exp they can, ratting each other out, and posting meaningless screen shots with made up stories behind their pictures.

pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 03:24 PM
in all honesty, this is probably the most disgusting pile of scum suckers i have ever had the displeasure of witnessing on a forum, and that says something. it's better in game but not by a lot. sadly this server could have been a lot more, but that is impossible with the virulent bile that is currently spewing out of the r99 community.

Snukie
11-29-2011, 03:28 PM
Its actually a pretty trashy community. I suspect much drama when the first fights break out during raids...but thats why i am here for the giggles and the drama.

Hudsucker
11-29-2011, 03:30 PM
that's one thing I question... Avoiding players in game.

I've only ever played eq classic, never an emu server so I can only speak for my experience with servers '99-00 ish.

That said, I remember seeking players out being one of the most fun things about the game. Hanging out in the EC tunnel looking at everyone that was better than me. If red is a big cluster of people shying away from each other... I'm wondering if it'll be that fun.

It's like the part in harry potter where the death eaters have taken over the ministry of magic and diagon alley is all dark and shit, no one wants to buy magic shit anymore and everyone is running around in small groups hoping they dont get fucked by voldemort.

Red1999?

Danger
11-29-2011, 03:33 PM
I think you were safe until that elaborate Harry Potter refrence, now you do gotta run, maybe get into the P99 witeness protection program with holocaust.

HippoNipple
11-29-2011, 03:34 PM
that's one thing I question... Avoiding players in game.

I've only ever played eq classic, never an emu server so I can only speak for my experience with servers '99-00 ish.

That said, I remember seeking players out being one of the most fun things about the game. Hanging out in the EC tunnel looking at everyone that was better than me. If red is a big cluster of people shying away from each other... I'm wondering if it'll be that fun.

It's like the part in harry potter where the death eaters have taken over the ministry of magic and diagon alley is all dark and shit, no one wants to buy magic shit anymore and everyone is running around in small groups hoping they dont get fucked by voldemort.

Red1999?

I can't connect with you on the Harry Potter reference but it is for sure a different game then a blue server. You form alliances and your reputation sticks. You have to trust people and look out for enemies. With such a big exp penalty being pked sucks. It is a lot harder but also a lot more rewarding. Also it is never boring, I often get bored on blue servers with nothing to really do.

Hudsucker
11-29-2011, 03:36 PM
no way, like 500 million people can read that and know exactly what i'm talking about.

If a reference is meant to communicate a complex idea, such as an overbearing sense of dread brought on by emotional hardship (just like all them wizards felt,) it's totally legit.

I still smoke weed. I'm cool.

Dfn
11-29-2011, 03:40 PM
in all honesty, this is probably the most disgusting pile of scum suckers i have ever had the displeasure of witnessing on a forum, and that says something. it's better in game but not by a lot. sadly this server could have been a lot more, but that is impossible with the virulent bile that is currently spewing out of the r99 community.

Hypocrisy at its finest. Look at your post history. All you do is bitch and moan - and for what? Because someone outleveled you? Oh my god, not fair wipe the box. You are a whiny little cocksucker, the one spewing this "virulent bile". It's not the swedes, or holocaust, redwood wands, or lvl 1 halflings wirh 200 plat - it's whiny faggots like you that spam the forums with stupid, assinine shit in hopes of getting attention.

You want more of acommunity? You want more people feom blue to switch to red? Then just shut the fuck up.

The server is great, everyone I know is having a great time.

Zalaerian
11-29-2011, 03:40 PM
Harry Potter maps up and working....no one is safe.

Dfn
11-29-2011, 03:45 PM
Don't get me wrong, the server isn't perfect - but what ever is? If you like it then play. If you dont like it then dont play. If you have constructive crticism then post it in the appropriate place or send to the appropriate people. Simple enough right?

I want more people to play and a larger, better community because it gives me more people to kill and makes the server more enjoyable - something most people can agree upon... And we're going in the wrong direction with these braindead fuckttards like pickled heretic posting their garbage.

Amuk
11-29-2011, 03:52 PM
Well the only people playing a 12 year old eqemu pvp server are probably fairly competetive about it, unless you're a casual scrub - so yeah it won't be all sunshine and rainbows with a little added dynamic.

Lazortag
11-29-2011, 03:55 PM
The community isn't that bad. The loudest people on the forums don't represent the community at large. I also don't think the nicer people will be driven away, there are lots of guilds (like mine) where they can feel comfortable. But even outside of Spear most people I've interacted with have been polite.

Skrimp
11-29-2011, 04:03 PM
All Servers have bad apples and PvP servers certainly have their fair share. But you can kill them. Which is quite a bit of fun. So give it a shot. Do not let the forums label the server. There are plenty of good times and good people playing here.

Ripcord
11-29-2011, 04:07 PM
its true, there are a great bunch of folks here but a dozen or so loud-mouth entitled bandwagon teenagers who think the server and devs should cater to their every collect (usually bad) idea.

I kind of like how when one dick mage is camping the bank for example, all the more level headed folks with good enough reputations will band together and slay the evil mage for the good of the population. Also most of the "u mad?" tells have trailed off in the past few days, probably because either they ragequit the server or are serious bsns no lifers who are 25+ now and they only send tells to each other anymore.

pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 04:09 PM
Hypocrisy at its finest. Look at your post history. All you do is bitch and moan - and for what? Because someone outleveled you? Oh my god, not fair wipe the box. You are a whiny little cocksucker, the one spewing this "virulent bile". It's not the swedes, or holocaust, redwood wands, or lvl 1 halflings wirh 200 plat - it's whiny faggots like you that spam the forums with stupid, assinine shit in hopes of getting attention.

You want more of acommunity? You want more people feom blue to switch to red? Then just shut the fuck up.

The server is great, everyone I know is having a great time.

case in point. this is your prototypical red player: instead of trying to approach anything with a modicum of civility they continue to vomit the same rhetoric all over again.

and for the record, you nitwit, i never asked anyone for a wipe, didn't even acknowledge that silly troll's thread about wiping by voting in that retarded poll. but go ahead and keep spreading your lies, that will surely convince people that you are not a complete waste of mother earth's precious oxygen supply.

Szeth
11-29-2011, 04:11 PM
its true, there are a great bunch of folks here but a dozen or so loud-mouth entitled bandwagon teenagers who think the server and devs should cater to their every collect (usually bad) idea.

I kind of like how when one dick mage is camping the bank for example, all the more level headed folks with good enough reputations will band together and slay the evil mage for the good of the population. Also most of the "u mad?" tells have trailed off in the past few days, probably because either they ragequit the server or are serious bsns no lifers who are 25+ now and they only send tells to each other anymore.

Were you the one relapsee hit at Qeynos bank for 30 plat? You sound a bit upset.

Softcore PK
11-29-2011, 04:16 PM
I'm infp, how about you?

There's good in everyone, and I'm secret friends with lots of my enemies. You can say EQ pvp servers attract a certain type of personality, but it's never so simple. PvP kind of acts as a contrast for certain personality traits; you're very aware of who you like and who you hate. Maybe you should ask yourself why you're so much more aware of those you hate than those you like.

:O

Ripcord
11-29-2011, 04:16 PM
actually i broke out of her mage pets root no less then 3 times like the fuckin ninja i am, and i had a lot more then that on me :p

Dfn
11-29-2011, 04:22 PM
case in point. this is your prototypical red player: instead of trying to approach anything with a modicum of civility they continue to vomit the same rhetoric all over again.

and for the record, you nitwit, i never asked anyone for a wipe, didn't even acknowledge that silly troll's thread about wiping by voting in that retarded poll. but go ahead and keep spreading your lies, that will surely convince people that you are not a complete waste of mother earth's precious oxygen supply.


The "community" you keep talking down on is a direct result of posts like yours. Look at your post history - it's all whining about one exploit or another and how it's the end of the world. "continue to vomit the same rhetoric all over again."

The server is great in game. People are having fun and the server is working as it should for the most part. People question the community because of a handful of forum dumbasses - and you are right there in the thick of it. So like I said, if you (and your amigos) just shut the fuck up the general perception of the community would tend to be much better.

pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 04:27 PM
The "community" you keep talking down on is a direct result of posts like yours. Look at your post history - it's all whining about one exploit or another and how it's the end of the world. "continue to vomit the same rhetoric all over again."

The server is great in game. People are having fun and the server is working as it should for the most part. People question the community because of a handful of forum dumbasses - and you are right there in the thick of it. So like I said, if you (and your amigos) just shut the fuck up the general perception of the community would tend to be much better.

I can't believe anyone would defend the cedar wand abusers, or anyone else who is abusing exploits. but here you have it. the one thing most people want is a fair playing field, it's clear that a few miscreants spent their time in beta finding things they could exploit for their own personal gain rather than submit as bugs (actual purpose of a beta). that anyone would defend this kind of behavior or try to protect them from punishment is absolutely heinous.

Dfn
11-29-2011, 04:41 PM
I can't believe anyone would defend the cedar wand abusers, or anyone else who is abusing exploits. but here you have it. the one thing most people want is a fair playing field, it's clear that a few miscreants spent their time in beta finding things they could exploit for their own personal gain rather than submit as bugs (actual purpose of a beta). that anyone would defend this kind of behavior or try to protect them from punishment is absolutely heinous.

The same people that used redwood wands (and only for a matter of hours) are also the same people that reported it in beta including their effect on PvE. This is common knowledge; why you keep posting about it (end of the world?) is beyond me. Get your facts straight.

So what exactly is the point of continuing to whine about this? What are you trying to accomplish? It seems to me that YOU have been the one continuing to vomit forth the same rhetoric. Are you being constructive? Productive? Are your posts presenting evidence?

pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 04:44 PM
what evidence is there to present? salty himself posts screenshots of instant respawn npcs he's killing in order to taunt people who want to see justice. is he a fine, upstanding member of the red community?

Dfn
11-29-2011, 04:57 PM
what evidence is there to present?

My point exactly. You have nothing to post - nothing constructive at all. No chat logs with GMs. You aren't posting similar items or locations with the same problem to be fixed. You aren't offering solutions.

So back to the original discussion - the community and how awful it is. You are the one "continuing to vomit the same rhetoric over and over again. You complain about how awful the server/community is - but maybe it's because all you do is read your own forum drool. You post about these "evil exploiters" when you can't be bothered to even read and see that they did report it.

pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 05:10 PM
There is nothing that requires posting. Salty has admitted in several places to abusing this exploit, whether or not he was the one to report them is irrelevant. if he gained an advantage by exploiting it he should be suspended or banned.

The community that was imported when red99 began is confirmed terrible, over and over. The fact that people are defending exploiting is absolutely preposterous. TZVZ cheater's haven confirmed.

Dfn
11-29-2011, 05:20 PM
There is nothing that requires posting. Salty has admitted in several places to abusing this exploit, whether or not he was the one to report them is irrelevant. if he gained an advantage by exploiting it he should be suspended or banned.

The community that was imported when red99 began is confirmed terrible, over and over. TZVZ cheater's haven confirmed.

The forum community is only terrible because of people like you that do nothing but bitch, cry, drag issues out, and make issues seem bigger than they actually are.

As for those instant respawning mobs - I'm pretty confident the staff knows the story on them by now. If the GMs wanted to suspend someone I'm sure they would do it. How exactly does your drivel promote the server or community?

pickled_heretic
11-29-2011, 05:24 PM
Poeple got suspended on blue for using the frog thing to power level.

I expect such things here too!
We can only hope they do the right thing, to the right people.

CHusk2
11-29-2011, 05:34 PM
I've personally seen a lot of really great players in the red99 community. Most people I've come across are really only interested in grouping and only PKing the PKs. There are some D-bags, but I'm going to agree with Ripcordd on the point that the populous will almost always rise up against the D-bag mage camping the Qeynos bank. Fuck that guy.

I really like the fact that PvP exists here, because it forces you to make good choices, as your reputation will follow you. The good oments are that much better, and the bad moments suck pretty hard.

I'm having a great time.

Gnar
11-29-2011, 05:37 PM
There are some D-bags, but I'm going to agree with Ripcordd on the point that the populous will almost always rise up against the D-bag mage camping the Qeynos bank. Fuck that guy.


props to d-bag mage. fuck everyone else in this shit thread.

Szeth
11-29-2011, 05:39 PM
Shout out to big relapsee, lootin them non-banked plats.

Tombom
11-29-2011, 05:40 PM
Honestly this community is a bunch of babbies. Ofcourse there are D-bags on a pvp server that is part of the fun. Stick with your pals or make some knew ones, don't QQ for 5 hours each death and you might just have some fun, jesus if your not enjoying this game please /q and do somthing you like, you people are rediculous.

ps this community is the kindest pvp server I have ever encountered, it must the be flowers doing!

Ripcord
11-29-2011, 05:44 PM
The e-dudebros will be cleansed

Ripcord
11-29-2011, 05:49 PM
To clarify im not bitching about the dbags, infact I need them to maintain the fun. Sides are chosen, people will die. but my point about the over use of u mad and confirmed being just played out and annoying now stands, once the stay at home moms know what you mean its time to come up with new internet slang BREW

Tombom
11-29-2011, 06:17 PM
confirmed 100%

Melveny
11-29-2011, 08:17 PM
Salty I hope your not a paladin this time around. Some of those faction hits may have screwed you if you are one.

Salty
11-29-2011, 08:22 PM
Salty I hope your not a paladin this time around. Some of those faction hits may have screwed you if you are one.

dru

Tassador
11-30-2011, 11:55 AM
make a druid and you will have fun. We need more druids bards starting to pick up numbers.

pickled_heretic
11-30-2011, 12:24 PM
but my point about the over use of u mad and confirmed being just played out and annoying now stands, once the stay at home moms know what you mean its time to come up with new internet slang BREW

bravo sir!

actually u mad was trite a long time ago, there's still a few people that use it like it's 2009 but a lot of people are now using it ironically.

Albane
11-30-2011, 02:01 PM
The community is pretty trashy now, but it seems to be getting a little cleaner every day. PvP servers always start out with everyone thinking they can be asshats and get away with it. Then they get near the level cap and realize their reputation has left them with few options for end game play.

Give it a couple of months and you will see that the players have started to enforce some small style of an honor system and the people who play to be pricks are sitting in a corner trying not to be constantly ganked or have rerolled or begged a GM for a name change.

Nirgon
11-30-2011, 02:02 PM
Once people can't solo everything for xp, and they get the ants out of their pants on kill shots, things'll probs calm down for most of the pop until it's time for big things.

messiah_b
11-30-2011, 02:12 PM
I don't know about the server, but the forum is (predictably) a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

I am looking forward to the EE cry threads. If it were my project I would allow training and set up a hovering ghost client over the EE camp on webcast just to see the non-stop tears.

Tombom
11-30-2011, 03:44 PM
Once people can't solo everything for xp, and they get the ants out of their pants on kill shots, things'll probs calm down for most of the pop until it's time for big things.

this exactly, the grind is much harsher than the pvp, our common enemy is the xp bar.

socialist
11-30-2011, 04:03 PM
The in-game community seems fine, it's just that the dumbest and most unsympathetic players gravitate towards the forum which gives the illusion that everyone on the server is a complete fucktard. I'd say the majority are totally ordinary players who enjoy PvP or want to try it out after all these years.

Diggles
11-30-2011, 04:06 PM
Socialist, that's the entirety of both servers, not just Red

Nirgon
11-30-2011, 04:11 PM
Having a forum is a mistake but it would all just go into the blue forums :P