Ok Thanksgiving is over.

[Sithel1988]

can we have 500+ back on blue again please? jeeze

[Timarian]

Tell me about it! Sentimental slackers!

[Sithel1988]

i dont know man. i havent seen server pop above like 350 in 3 or 4 days. and keeps getting lower

[Timarian]

Im UK based and best I have seen it is 250ish dire :(

[Sithel1988]

yea and now i havent seen it go above 250 yet in 2 days

[Leftoverture]

how about you take this opportunity to kill some monsters man

[Sithel1988]

yea im gonna go kill some monsters alone. while sitting alone in front of a computer. i just want people to group with man!

[Softcore PK]

Who cares about blue? :P

Come hang out with us on red, where the world is more dynamic and real.

[Diggles]

and full of people who can't speak above a third grade level

[Softcore PK]

and full of people who can't speak above a third grade level

he says with no punctuation

[Diggles]

Go ahead, take a trip to the lovely PvP Server Chat and tell me if they have a basic sentence structure let alone capitalization or punctuation

[Softcore PK]

Diggles, why do you hate us red players? We're all fans of the same game, you know..

[Samoht]

Diggles uses just as much unpunctuated hate-speech as the veezeetards.

[Szeth]

Have you seen diggle's RL picture? Youre wondering why he hates red?

He obviously got picked on enough in High School, no need to get picked on in Norrath too.

[Diggles]

Have you seen diggle's RL picture? Youre wondering why he hates red?

He obviously got picked on enough in High School, no need to get picked on in Norrath too.
Diggles'

also, yes, that's exactly why

[Diggles]

big mean vztzjects call me fat and nerdy so I cry myself to sleep in the tunnel

[Phallax]

EQ pvp is a joke

/thread

[Truth]

You people are fucking stupid, there are 450 on there right now.

stop whining -ahnold

[Rhaj]

Red 1999 is already on the decline. People are coming back to blue even before the 1st month is up.

[bizzum]

EQ pvp is a joke

/thread

[Shrubwise]

EQ pvp is a joke

/thread

So is life, but we all seem to continue playing that.

[Phallax]

So is life, but we all seem to continue playing that.

true enough

[Diggles]

Life has item loot and faction assist.

[mwatt]

Who cares about blue? :P

Come hang out with us on red, where the world is more dynamic and real.

Not the first time I have seen you promoting Red on the Blue forums. I have half a mind to go to the red forumns and promote Blue. But I know I don't have to. There are a number of open minded blue players trying out Red at the moment, but eventually the majority will tire of the immaturity and sadism they encounter there.

You said somewhere else, and I quote the gist of it here "Why the hatred for Red, after all we are playing the same game?". I'll answer that - we are NOT playing the same game - you are playing Quake with worse graphics. I am playing EQ, which was never really meant to be a PVP game. You are playing with the kind of people that like go to cheesy action movies and then talk out loud in the theater. I am playing with people that like to read books.

Granted, my generalization cuts too broad a swathe and some people my find that it does not apply to them. Most of those people will end up back on Blue eventually. Havings said this, I realize that there are actually mature, sensitive people that enjoy PVP in it's own right. I just think that these are the minority of PVP world.

[VanEyck]

Only reason people play this game is to relive the nostalgia they had back in the 90's. There weren't as many options back then as there are now. If you couldn't take the heat of a PVP server then, you probably won't be able to now either. In any case, 200+ people beats my personal expectation for the server, and I'm happy with it thus far.

[Softcore PK]

Not the first time I have seen you promoting Red on the Blue forums. I have half a mind to go to the red forumns and promote Blue. But I know I don't have to. There are a number of open minded blue players trying out Red at the moment, but eventually the majority will tire of the immaturity and sadism they encounter there.

You said somewhere else, and I quote the gist of it here "Why the hatred for Red, after all we are playing the same game?". I'll answer that - we are NOT playing the same game - you are playing Quake with worse graphics. I am playing EQ, which was never really meant to be a PVP game. You are playing with the kind of people that like go to cheesy action movies and then talk out loud in the theater. I am playing with people that like to read books.

Granted, my generalization cuts too broad a swathe and some people my find that it does not apply to them. Most of those people will end up back on Blue eventually. Havings said this, I realize that there are actually mature, sensitive people that enjoy PVP in it's own right. I just think that these are the minority of PVP world.

Bleh, why do the blue players dislike the rest of us so much? I'm not trying to do anything malicious here, OP was a member of my guild who seems to have left us for bluer pastures :P

But thank you, Mr. Well-Read, for your enlightening oversimplifications and sweeping generalizations. I had no idea I was a sadist until now!

[Xanthias]

Bleh, why do the blue players dislike the rest of us so much? I'm not trying to do anything malicious here, OP was a member of my guild who seems to have left us for bluer pastures :P

But thank you, Mr. Well-Read, for your enlightening oversimplifications and sweeping generalizations. I had no idea I was a sadist until now!


The reason is because most of the red players kept saying bluebies suck, we play a gimp version of the game etc.

[Dirtnap]

I figured Red99 would take a good chunk of the P99 players. My guess is that most don't come back, and the population will keep shrinking. Lack of groups, will make a lack of players.

[Diggles]

Bleh, why do the blue players dislike the rest of us so much? I'm not trying to do anything malicious here, OP was a member of my guild who seems to have left us for bluer pastures :P

But thank you, Mr. Well-Read, for your enlightening oversimplifications and sweeping generalizations. I had no idea I was a sadist until now!
this might be why. (http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=54)

[HorrorFK]

GRAMMAR POLICE 9-1-1

[Vondra]

Bleh, why do the blue players dislike the rest of us so much? I'm not trying to do anything malicious here, OP was a member of my guild who seems to have left us for bluer pastures :P

But thank you, Mr. Well-Read, for your enlightening oversimplifications and sweeping generalizations. I had no idea I was a sadist until now!

I tried out the red server, I left.

It wasn't from being ganked either, I killed some people and died to some people, but it wasn't really a big deal. What it amounted to was me listening to people talking there and realizing "I don't want to play with these people."

What baffles me is I'm assuming, as with blue, these are mostly older people.

I've learned in the past not to really judge an mmo (or a server) based on what I read in a server chat. There were periods on this blue server chat where the community looked absolutely abysmal. It was little more than RnF posts that hadn't been moved yet. Yet when in the game, for the most part people acted reasonably.

I lurked on the red chat for a while and considered the same thing. "These obnoxious people coming up with different ways to call each other a fag are the minority, in game is probably different."

When I started there, it wasn't different though. Listening to people talk felt exactly like reading the namecalling in the red server chat.

You might say "Not everyone on the pvp server is like that!" and I'm sure they aren't. However too many were for my tastes, FAR too many. Even worse, that behavior is somehow considered masculine or tough. In reality it just comes off as childish, like walking past a group of middle school kids arguing.

I think you'll find other blue players share the same sentiments. It has very little to do with the act of pvp on a pvp server, ganking or otherwise. It has very much to do with the people you're around.

I've noticed you promoting the red server often and you seemed to be a reasonable, ordinary person that just wants to play on a pvp server, which is great. If a big majority of people there were the same way, I would have stayed. But they aren't, and I didn't.

[Sithel1988]

lol swgemu always has more people on the server than p99

[Phallax]

lol swgemu always has more people on the server than p99

lol cool story bro

[Softcore PK]

I tried out the red server, I left.

It wasn't from being ganked either, I killed some people and died to some people, but it wasn't really a big deal. What it amounted to was me listening to people talking there and realizing "I don't want to play with these people."

What baffles me is I'm assuming, as with blue, these are mostly older people.

I've learned in the past not to really judge an mmo (or a server) based on what I read in a server chat. There were periods on this blue server chat where the community looked absolutely abysmal. It was little more than RnF posts that hadn't been moved yet. Yet when in the game, for the most part people acted reasonably.

I lurked on the red chat for a while and considered the same thing. "These obnoxious people coming up with different ways to call each other a fag are the minority, in game is probably different."

When I started there, it wasn't different though. Listening to people talk felt exactly like reading the namecalling in the red server chat.

You might say "Not everyone on the pvp server is like that!" and I'm sure they aren't. However too many were for my tastes, FAR too many. Even worse, that behavior is somehow considered masculine or tough. In reality it just comes off as childish, like walking past a group of middle school kids arguing.

I think you'll find other blue players share the same sentiments. It has very little to do with the act of pvp on a pvp server, ganking or otherwise. It has very much to do with the people you're around.

I've noticed you promoting the red server often and you seemed to be a reasonable, ordinary person that just wants to play on a pvp server, which is great. If a big majority of people there were the same way, I would have stayed. But they aren't, and I didn't.

Oh, it certainly does suck sometimes. Not in any offensive way, but in a way that makes you imagine EQ is played primarily by drunken frat boys :P

I joined a mature guild, problem mostly solved :)

[fuark]

The playerbase on red is pretty terrible -- it's hard to argue that it's not.

[Kassel]

I tried out the red server, I left.

It wasn't from being ganked either, I killed some people and died to some people, but it wasn't really a big deal. What it amounted to was me listening to people talking there and realizing "I don't want to play with these people."

What baffles me is I'm assuming, as with blue, these are mostly older people.

I've learned in the past not to really judge an mmo (or a server) based on what I read in a server chat. There were periods on this blue server chat where the community looked absolutely abysmal. It was little more than RnF posts that hadn't been moved yet. Yet when in the game, for the most part people acted reasonably.

I lurked on the red chat for a while and considered the same thing. "These obnoxious people coming up with different ways to call each other a fag are the minority, in game is probably different."

When I started there, it wasn't different though. Listening to people talk felt exactly like reading the namecalling in the red server chat.

You might say "Not everyone on the pvp server is like that!" and I'm sure they aren't. However too many were for my tastes, FAR too many. Even worse, that behavior is somehow considered masculine or tough. In reality it just comes off as childish, like walking past a group of middle school kids arguing.

I think you'll find other blue players share the same sentiments. It has very little to do with the act of pvp on a pvp server, ganking or otherwise. It has very much to do with the people you're around.

I've noticed you promoting the red server often and you seemed to be a reasonable, ordinary person that just wants to play on a pvp server, which is great. If a big majority of people there were the same way, I would have stayed. But they aren't, and I didn't.

This

[Mardur]

You said somewhere else, and I quote the gist of it here "Why the hatred for Red, after all we are playing the same game?". I'll answer that - we are NOT playing the same game - you are playing Quake with worse graphics. I am playing EQ, which was never really meant to be a PVP game. You are playing with the kind of people that like go to cheesy action movies and then talk out loud in the theater. I am playing with people that like to read books.

This was good for a laugh.

[Skyllus]

Go ahead, take a trip to the lovely PvP Server Chat and tell me if they have a basic sentence structure let alone capitalization or punctuation

Not really necessary to write with correct punctuation on an online video game, its not like its a Resume or a essay for school, relax :D

[Doors]

Blue servers dead. Red is the new future. Confirmed everyone's mad about it.

Also level 4 newbie zone OOC = judge the entire server bases average player intelligence. Fact of the matter is, most red box players are infinitely better at this game than the blue ones. Mostly because they need to fight off hordes of other bind rushing players in small cramped areas like solb or permafrost before they even engage a raid target.

If you people seriously can't break into a pvp server because of trolls you should cancel your ISP's service. It's not hard to ignore these people.

[Shrubwise]

What's that you were saying, Doors? (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=34140)

[Doors]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

[Messianic]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lying

[Doors]

Yeah I am totally lying. That's why I am playing on the server. Maybe get a catscan bro you might be a fucking retard.

Played blue box anyway all Summer. Quite frankly the number of inconsiderate dickheads, jerks, basement dwelling dregs of society and straight up losers outnumbers the amount that are playing on red99.

On blue you had bards that would KS mobs and kite entire zones screwing over anyone else in the zone, people that actually answer a cell phone call at 4am to kill a raid mob with variance, people that will wait till you clear to a camp then walk right past you and steal it, etc. List goes on and on. On red people troll and grief, maybe bind camp. The majority of the playerbase isn't nearly half as shitty or brain dead as what I encountered on p99 though.

[Rhaj]

Considering the Red Server is losing population now and the blue is gaining back slightly its lost population I think your mistaken.

[Waffen]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

o.O
Yeah man I would love for it to work, Rogean is legit. But honestly p99 is a huge success and if red99 fails hard it could bring both servers down. Just don't think its worth it for all the bullshit you know is coming if red99 launches.

so the wall of text that was your OP and this = trolling?

i don't get it?????

[Doors]

It's been a little over 2 weeks. Who cares? No shit it was going to lose players, most people here are lifetime bluebies. Which is whatever I don't care, but if you've never played on a red server it's realistically not going to hold your interest.

You guys talk like the population will eventually drop to zero. Don't worry it won't.

[Mardur]

People like EverQuest because it's challenging. If you don't like difficulty, time sinks, and frustrating game play, then you're not reading this because you're too busy running dailies on WoW.

I'm a fan of both pve and pvp, but that challenge has to remain at the high end. Once you hit 60 on this server, what is there to do? Take turns holding hands with rival guilds and randoming for content? No thank you, that's not EverQuest. P99 was fun for a short-lived month or two when there was actual racing to content and contention. Now the server has turned into WoW, only with shittier graphics and waiting to take your turn on raid content instead of just doing it in instances.

The solution is PvP. If I deserve Nagafen more than your guild, it's because we out-played you. No GM play nice bullshit to ruin the challenge that's inherent in this game. You know that rush you get when you beat another guild to Cazic Thule? Imagine that after a half an hour long pvp battle across the Plane of Fear where you had to exert your control of the zone versus a rival guild. It makes even that damn piccolo seem well-earned (I guess). That "I dun good" rush you experience in EQ is amplified in PvP.

And that about sums up why people prefer PvP to PvE. You're playing the game for the challenge, might as well ramp things up a bit.

Red99 has just as terrible of a player base as Blue. In fact, it may be a bit better considering the only kind of people who will hang are those who excel at the game (generally people with a higher intelligence). If you don't like random players/guilds, don't group/play with them. On Blue your best option is /ignore. On Red99 at least you can get some satisfaction out of killing people you dislike.

[Softcore PK]

It takes a special sort of person to play EQ pvp. We're all ruthless, mean and (yes) even sadistic. Hide your grandparents before we sacrifice them.

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/7085307/img/EQ/welcome%21.png

Your bodies are not ready, bluebies.

[Truth]

confirmed carebears

[Messianic]

Yeah I am totally lying. That's why I am playing on the server. Maybe get a catscan bro you might be a fucking retard.

Played blue box anyway all Summer. Quite frankly the number of inconsiderate dickheads, jerks, basement dwelling dregs of society and straight up losers outnumbers the amount that are playing on red99.

On blue you had bards that would KS mobs and kite entire zones screwing over anyone else in the zone, people that actually answer a cell phone call at 4am to kill a raid mob with variance, people that will wait till you clear to a camp then walk right past you and steal it, etc. List goes on and on. On red people troll and grief, maybe bind camp. The majority of the playerbase isn't nearly half as shitty or brain dead as what I encountered on p99 though.

The post Shrubwise quoted showed you taking a particular position about red99. You referred him to the "troll (internet)" wikipedia page, seemingly indicating that the post he referenced was a troll post. After reading the original post for a few pages, it's clear you weren't trolling. You were, as you said, "expressing an opinion."

You could have saved yourself the mouth-breathing outrage at me and just said "I was mistaken." Because it's obvious you weren't trolling.


For everything except raid mobs, blue is more compatible with decent people being a part of its population. So it depends on your playstyle. I for one would not wish the trek from 1-50/60 in pvp on any player who doesn't have a veritable posse of skilled players to roll with. It was bad enough in vanilla wow when the classes were somewhat balanced. EQ PvP promises to be a massive grief-fest - but hey, some people like to play that kind of game, i.e. to grief and be griefed.

That's cool. But don't kid yourself, that while you're griefing others and they're griefing you and you're waving around your e-peen about how many ganks you can pull off, and how stupid or useless of a person that guy was that you just killed is, or how awesome you are at pvp and no one else can compare to you...Or otherwise assigning some kind of real value to the fact that you beat someone in pvp...

That somehow you're more laid back and relaxed about just having a good time than blue players who choose not to worry about raid mobs that they'd have to poopsock or be on batphone alert to kill. Because there are far more of them on blue than the jackasses on red who play strictly so they can grief people with crappier gear or who chose weaker pvp classes.

[Rhaj]

I laugh at people who love EQ PVP. I am not sure if thats the only PVP they have experienced or what, but EQ PVP sucks compared to real games that were made for PVP. Trying to insult people because they play EQ for PVE just makes me laugh considering that's what it was designed for.

Red with be a much smaller server in 3 months than blue. Have fun killing the same 10 people over and over with no real rewards system in place.

[Messianic]

I laugh at people who love EQ PVP. I am not sure if thats the only PVP they have experienced or what, but EQ PVP sucks compared to real games that were made for PVP. Trying to insult people because they play EQ for PVE just makes me laugh considering that's what it was designed for.

Red with be a much smaller server in 3 months than blue. Have fun killing the same 10 people over and over with no real rewards system in place.

I dunno - I think it'll last longer than that and plenty of people will play there for a long time - but I think eventually there will be a core group of mostly VZTZ guys and some others.

I wouldn't discount how well managed blue99 and red99 are - that counts for a lot.

[Lucidus]

confirmed carebears

Now announcing eveEmu project 2003?

[Softcore PK]

I laugh at people who love EQ PVP. I am not sure if thats the only PVP they have experienced or what, but EQ PVP sucks compared to real games that were made for PVP. Trying to insult people because they play EQ for PVE just makes me laugh considering that's what it was designed for.

Red with be a much smaller server in 3 months than blue. Have fun killing the same 10 people over and over with no real rewards system in place.

Why does EQ PvP suck compared to games that were designed with pvp in mind? Are you referring to class balance issues?

The classes in EQ were clearly never intended to be balanced, even in PvE. You don't see untwinked warriors and rogues running around soloing pve content, right? It's the same thing for pvp. EQ set out to be a group-oriented game, and this shows quite clearly in both pve and pvp. It's great! :)

And if you're referring to the fact that EQ PvP has no clear-cut reward system, you're so far from "getting it." EQ is the perfect pvp game, and it's because it was designed with pve in mind. It's all about player interaction, and with the simple idea of a persistent world (no instancing), we're given incentive to pvp. Because the content is limited, and we need access to that content to progress our characters, we have all the reason in the world to kill each other.

All the MMOs I've played that were designed with pvp in mind were pretty terrible in the pvp department. Games like WoW and Aion were so disappointing (even though Aion had the best fashion in any game ever and OMG ANGEL WINGSS!!). They took pvp and added all these hard-coded rules and limitations to it, even going so far as to cut off your communication with half of the people you're playing with. Then they tried to force meaning into the pvp by adding rewards for doing well, and add instances that try really hard to make MMO PvP into a FPS experience.

"Kill x many bad guys, or win x many capture the flag (????) matches, and show proof of this to Warlord Whoever for a nice shiny thing."

It all feels so synthetic. Don't you feel it in pve, too? In those games, there's really only one way to play. Every WoW server is exactly the same as every other, even the RP and PvP servers. Casual guilds are given x content, hardcore guilds are given y content. The number of players in a raid is dictated, there is no competition because everything is instanced.

I play EQ for the social interactions, and because of this I like that it's something of a sandbox game. We're not forced into playing as anyone has decided we should. This really shows in the pvp servers, which were all vastly different from one another on live. And I don't mean the rulesets, I mean the way the communities behaved. Even VZ and TZ, which had the same exact rules as decided by Verant (once VZ lost item loot) were vastly different. Guild politics govern the PvP servers, and it's all stuff we ourselves make up as we go along. We help to shape it and it impacts us all greatly.

And we decide who we want to be on these servers. We can be an evil menace, feared by all. Or a true white knight, protector of the weak and savior of the noobs. Or something in between hehe. I even successfully roleplayed a pacifist on VZ.

This thread should probably be moved lol.

[pickled_heretic]

Why does EQ PvP suck compared to games that were designed with pvp in mind? Are you referring to class balance issues?

The classes in EQ were clearly never intended to be balanced, even in PvE. You don't see untwinked warriors and rogues running around soloing pve content, right? It's the same thing for pvp. EQ set out to be a group-oriented game, and this shows quite clearly in both pve and pvp. It's great! :)

And if you're referring to the fact that EQ PvP has no clear-cut reward system, you're so far from "getting it." EQ is the perfect pvp game, and it's because it was designed with pve in mind. It's all about player interaction, and with the simple idea of a persistent world (no instancing), we're given incentive to pvp. Because the content is limited, and we need access to that content to progress our characters, we have all the reason in the world to kill each other.

All the MMOs I've played that were designed with pvp in mind were pretty terrible in the pvp department. Games like WoW and Aion were so disappointing (even though Aion had the best fashion in any game ever and OMG ANGEL WINGSS!!). They took pvp and added all these hard-coded rules and limitations to it, even going so far as to cut off your communication with half of the people you're playing with. Then they tried to force meaning into the pvp by adding rewards for doing well, and add instances that try really hard to make MMO PvP into a FPS experience.


you try to say this failed, but what these games were really doing was copying one of the most successful pvp mmo's of all time: dark age of camelot. you couldn't communicate with anyone outside of your faction, and there were real consequences for your faction if everyone refused to participate in pvp. you'd lose control of darkness falls and your relics would be stolen. also, there were lots of hard coded rules. on the vast majority of servers (only mordred was the exception) you could attack only members of an opposing faction, and only in a frontier, where everyone came for mutual, consentual pvp.

all things considered, daoc was probably the most carebear pvp game to ever exist. it was also one of the most successful. games are still trying to recapture its formula and harness that player base.

[Phallax]

Why does EQ PvP suck compared to games that were designed with pvp in mind? Are you referring to class balance issues?

The classes in EQ were clearly never intended to be balanced, even in PvE. You don't see untwinked warriors and rogues running around soloing pve content, right? It's the same thing for pvp. EQ set out to be a group-oriented game, and this shows quite clearly in both pve and pvp. It's great! :)

And if you're referring to the fact that EQ PvP has no clear-cut reward system, you're so far from "getting it." EQ is the perfect pvp game, and it's because it was designed with pve in mind. It's all about player interaction, and with the simple idea of a persistent world (no instancing), we're given incentive to pvp. Because the content is limited, and we need access to that content to progress our characters, we have all the reason in the world to kill each other.

All the MMOs I've played that were designed with pvp in mind were pretty terrible in the pvp department. Games like WoW and Aion were so disappointing (even though Aion had the best fashion in any game ever and OMG ANGEL WINGSS!!). They took pvp and added all these hard-coded rules and limitations to it, even going so far as to cut off your communication with half of the people you're playing with. Then they tried to force meaning into the pvp by adding rewards for doing well, and add instances that try really hard to make MMO PvP into a FPS experience.

"Kill x many bad guys, or win x many capture the flag (????) matches, and show proof of this to Warlord Whoever for a nice shiny thing."

It all feels so synthetic. Don't you feel it in pve, too? In those games, there's really only one way to play. Every WoW server is exactly the same as every other, even the RP and PvP servers. Casual guilds are given x content, hardcore guilds are given y content. The number of players in a raid is dictated, there is no competition because everything is instanced.

I play EQ for the social interactions, and because of this I like that it's something of a sandbox game. We're not forced into playing as anyone has decided we should. This really shows in the pvp servers, which were all vastly different from one another on live. And I don't mean the rulesets, I mean the way the communities behaved. Even VZ and TZ, which had the same exact rules as decided by Verant (once VZ lost item loot) were vastly different. Guild politics govern the PvP servers, and it's all stuff we ourselves make up as we go along. We help to shape it and it impacts us all greatly.

And we decide who we want to be on these servers. We can be an evil menace, feared by all. Or a true white knight, protector of the weak and savior of the noobs. Or something in between hehe. I even successfully roleplayed a pacifist on VZ.

This thread should probably be moved lol.

UO: Game with PvP in mind and there werent any blue servers....anywhere. Until they came out with the gateways for Trammel and Felucca. UO was probably the best MMO PvP oriented game of all time imo. PvP was extremely exciting in group situations too. You never knew what to expect when toying around in a dungeon solo or with your friends.

[Guitarzan]

UO: Game with PvP in mind and there werent any blue servers....anywhere. Until they came out with the gateways for Trammel and Felucca. UO was probably the best MMO PvP oriented game of all time imo. PvP was extremely exciting in group situations too. You never knew what to expect when toying around in a dungeon solo or with your friends.

yep.

[Vondra]

Though it's fine to not want to play on the pvp server, I don't see any reason to tell people that do that they're somehow wrong for doing so.

If for whatever reason they are fine with the community and like eq pvp...well it's a game and there's a server for it so why not.

[vincin]

well, recent Project 1999 polls show that people who play on the PvP server are 50% more likely to be mentally challenged. Im not telling anyone not to play the PvP, but if you do, it tells me that there is a 50% chance that you might be a little slow.

[Phallax]

Though it's fine to not want to play on the pvp server, I don't see any reason to tell people that do that they're somehow wrong for doing so.

If for whatever reason they are fine with the community and like eq pvp...well it's a game and there's a server for it so why not.

Its vice versa. All the "red" players try and tell all the "blues" theyre wrong for playing on a blue server. Blues dont care what reds do but reds seem to care what blues does.