Experience Loss

[Slave]

it seems like it's waaay too much

[Null]

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/deal-with-it-putin-final.gif?w=450&h=248

[Pyronost]

Seems normal to me.

[pickled_heretic]

NOT CLASSIC

[gnomishfirework]

I know for a fact in classic you got exp when you died. I remember because I remember talking about it.

[pickled_heretic]

I know for a fact in classic you got exp when you died. I remember because I remember talking about it.

not from pvp deaths

[gloinz]

not from pvp deaths

sullon zek

[Doors]

Lets keep the crying to a minimum please hasn't even been 24 hours yet.

[Knuckle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFSRs7iqAv8

[pickled_heretic]

sullon zek

this server has practically nothing in common with SZ, there's nothing classic about adding exp death to a RZ ruleset.

[Knuckle]

go farm some gold fag

[Chronoburn]

More like TZ/VZ ruleset

[Slave]

I was mistaken in my original impression, I think the exp loss is about half a blue bubble which seems pretty much in line with risk/reward and grief expectancy.

The biggest problem seems to be people not losing faction for killing players in their starting city.

[Akim]

It's not high enough imo

[xblade724]

There is nothing classic about xp death from pvp. This is discouraging pvp altogether. There's already a low pop, let's chase people away even further. You already took away guard help -- wtf @ "classic" red? Cmon. So strict on bluebie servers, even keeping the damn bugs in/annoying sh*t, why not the same here.

restore red to classic

As for risk/reward, you die, you are humiliated, you have to run back to corpse probably being camped, you are now out of mana and have to med to full, and if you die getting corpse back again you have to go from 0 to full mana again, rebuff, and start over. There's already risk/reward. Look at rallos ruleset.

[Bazooka]

You're going to get trolled.

[Flash]

Someone really should move to EZ server.

[Djanis]

sullon zek

Sullon Zek had increased experience bonus right from the start to offset this.

[Clearrain]

this server has practically nothing in common with SZ, there's nothing classic about adding exp death to a RZ ruleset.

RZ had item loot.

[oldfish]

There is nothing classic about xp death from pvp. This is discouraging pvp altogether. There's already a low pop, let's chase people away even further. You already took away guard help -- wtf @ "classic" red? Cmon. So strict on bluebie servers, even keeping the damn bugs in/annoying sh*t, why not the same here.

restore red to classic

As for risk/reward, you die, you are humiliated, you have to run back to corpse probably being camped, you are now out of mana and have to med to full, and if you die getting corpse back again you have to go from 0 to full mana again, rebuff, and start over. There's already risk/reward. Look at rallos ruleset.

Its more, like has been explained before, of a survival "hide and seek" server than a classic RZ style server. Im leveling up and im always thinking about some hypothetic big fight that might happen, welll there wont be much big fights with this system. Either you go at it holocaust style with overwhelming force or u hide and run at the first death instead of having big fights like on RZ. Because as much as i want to fight, the xp loss is major and the grind is heavy. When twinks start to get rolled it will be 10X worse and new people will quit before even trying.

At least put huge diminishing returns so that you cant lose xp more than once per hour or something like that...

[mostbitter]

the exp loss is rediculous. i can't even convince my friends to play because it takes hours to get through the first coupe of levels. How am i supposed to convince people that they should spend several hours leveling up just to lose exp any time they die? mob deaths can be prevented with a little common sense pvp deaths aren't exactly as preventable.

[Bazooka]

It's like 1/4th a blue per death = 2 mobs

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRRiKcx01b1D-tKwdD_cvltfg478xVg_p0LpkMTpPTjPil6tOl

[pickled_heretic]

RZ had item loot for a while

Corrected. not that I'm saying there shouldn't be item loot. but that ship has sailed.

[mostbitter]

how long does it take to kill 2 mobs when you have to sit and regen to full after each one? 10 minutes at levels beyond ten? I'm supposed to be able to convince people that they should play this game when they may have to run across a continent for 15 minutes, then spend another 10 minutes regaining the exp they lost only under the best conditions where they only suffer one pvp death? rediculous.

[Lemons]

how long does it take to kill 2 mobs when you have to sit and regen to full after each one? 10 minutes at levels beyond ten? I'm supposed to be able to convince people that they should play this game when they may have to run across a continent for 15 minutes, then spend another 10 minutes regaining the exp they lost only under the best conditions where they only suffer one pvp death? rediculous.

not sure if srs

[Authority]

how long does it take to kill 2 mobs when you have to sit and regen to full after each one? 10 minutes at levels beyond ten? I'm supposed to be able to convince people that they should play this game when they may have to run across a continent for 15 minutes, then spend another 10 minutes regaining the exp they lost only under the best conditions where they only suffer one pvp death? rediculous.

Three things: First, name is fitting. Secong, Lern to gramer. Third, EQ is most definitely NOT for your homeboys, and probably yourself too.