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Flash
11-17-2011, 01:18 AM
While my Pally is STILL using banded at 25, his Blacksmith is almost to 115, the trivial for banded mail.
Is it possible to skip needles and gold ornate armor and move straight into Fine Plate? Do you even have a chance of succeeding on any Fine Plate combines at 115, and thus qualify for skill gains?
Flunklesnarkin
11-17-2011, 01:24 AM
While my Pally is STILL using banded at 25, his Blacksmith is almost to 115, the trivial for banded mail.
Is it possible to skip needles and gold ornate armor and move straight into Fine Plate? Do you even have a chance of succeeding on any Fine Plate combines at 115, and thus qualify for skill gains?
anything is possible with enough plat ~~~~
Flash
11-17-2011, 01:38 AM
anything is possible with enough plat ~~~~
Loot off the Goblins in High Keep isn't bad, but I'm not rich. Not the answer I was looking for.
Flunklesnarkin
11-17-2011, 01:49 AM
Loot off the Goblins in High Keep isn't bad, but I'm not rich. Not the answer I was looking for.
I really don't know much about tradeskills in eq.. my highest are fishing and brewing lol both in 60's
I did hear a rumor tho that you can only take one tradeskill past 200 skill level... that was on the regular server
I don't see much chatter here about tradeskills... can only assume its not very profitable?
I'm also not sure if fishing counts as a tradeskill in eq
I just do the tradeskills for fun and a change of pace lol... its just been a money pit for me so far.
Flash
11-17-2011, 01:54 AM
*shrug* It cost me less than 100p to go from 0-115 Blacksmith. Sharpened rusty weapons, bought metal bits from the merchant to create metal studs (which I'm saving for tailoring), used the rest to make lanterns, and did banded after that (although I had to make a few of my own sheet metals for that).
I'm just waiting for someone to answer if 115 is enough to create even the easiest of Fine Plate.
Quiksilver
11-17-2011, 01:58 AM
I can really only speak from personal experience -- My wood elf is 188 blacksmith (highest for now, I believe) Since he was wood elf he was able to make Fier`Dal Fletching Kits until visors became more profitable. You may want to check into racial smithing. A lot of it has not been released yet so goodluck with your search (to include needles and enchanted chainmail).
As for the multiple tradeskills being 200+ rumor? As I recall, this was changed later. Not sure how it is on P99 (It *should* allow you to master more than 1 tradeskill if it is following "classic" timeline.)
Quiksilver
11-17-2011, 02:01 AM
*shrug* It cost me less than 100p to go from 0-115 Blacksmith. Sharpened rusty weapons, bought metal bits from the merchant to create metal studs (which I'm saving for tailoring), used the rest to make lanterns, and did banded after that (although I had to make a few of my own sheet metals for that).
I'm just waiting for someone to answer if 115 is enough to create even the easiest of Fine Plate.
Yes it is. Keep in mind though, your success rate will be roughly 30-40%. Each combine costing you about 30pp in materials. But the best part about crafting Fine Plate once you near the trivial level of each piece it's very rare to fail a combine. In other words, Reach the visor trivial and the rest is a breeze.
Korisek
11-17-2011, 02:27 AM
Tangentially related, are fine plate dyes in P99 currently or did those come after Kunark?
Quiksilver
11-17-2011, 09:38 AM
Tangentially related, are fine plate dyes in P99 currently or did those come after Kunark?
After Kunark release but before Velious. At the same time as Epic quests, I believe.
Chokan
11-17-2011, 09:43 AM
At the same time as Epic quests, I believe.
So never basically.
Making fine plate once you trivial banded may be the only way to skill up smithing right now. Another poster mentioned racial smithing but I suspect he was only able to do those combines because of a bug or a fluke - the high majority of racial smithing is not in game yet. Ornate chain and needles aren't in either, I don't think.
I highly recommend AGAINST making fine plate. Attempts at the pieces cost 30-90pp depending on the piece, and you will have a low chance of success at your current skill level. Moreover, even once you trivial it (which will cost you several thousand platinum), you are not going to be making enough money selling it to players to merit it. My wizard is a fine plate blacksmith and it's really not worth the time investment unless it's something you enjoy doing. The best way to get gear is to level up and buy it in EC with your loot money.
Messianic
11-17-2011, 09:53 AM
Do you even have a chance of succeeding on any Fine Plate combines at 115, and thus qualify for skill gains?
You can always qualify for skill gains on attempting any combine that isn't trivial - it's just been my experience that you have a lower % of getting skillups if you try to do something that's way out of your league.
Flunklesnarkin
11-17-2011, 10:20 AM
As for the multiple tradeskills being 200+ rumor? As I recall, this was changed later. Not sure how it is on P99 (It *should* allow you to master more than 1 tradeskill if it is following "classic" timeline.)
good info... might be worth trying for multiple once im higher level... out of curiosity.. what is the tradeskill cap in classic eq?
pickled_heretic
11-17-2011, 10:25 AM
Making fine plate once you trivial banded may be the only way to skill up smithing right now. Another poster mentioned racial smithing but I suspect he was only able to do those combines because of a bug or a fluke - the high majority of racial smithing is not in game yet. Ornate chain and needles aren't in either, I don't think.
I highly recommend AGAINST making fine plate. Attempts at the pieces cost 30-90pp depending on the piece, and you will have a low chance of success at your current skill level. Moreover, even once you trivial it (which will cost you several thousand platinum), you are not going to be making enough money selling it to players to merit it. My wizard is a fine plate blacksmith and it's really not worth the time investment unless it's something you enjoy doing. The best way to get gear is to level up and buy it in EC with your loot money.
he's been told this once already, i guess his mind is made up.
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