Warrior

[billyinorganic]

I know warrior in pvp is useless.

But maybe i am wrong?

From what i see... you are at the biggest disadvantage to any other class. Your prime role is probably to take up mana of the casters, get in the way so they cannot get targeted (although in good gvg you make a macro to target focuses)..

In a melee fight if you are an ogre, gvg, you are a double edge sword. Maybe it's not worth it to heal you... maybe you block targeting as well, in some cases.

1v1 you are basically owned by all... even by a ranger...


The only advantage is to play a warrior in the very beginning when the server starts so you can lv up faster then most other tank classes and be at a corpse camping advantage...

Gotta love the "first in" camping crews.... locking down for the first few days key zone..

unless the pop is like 43

[Softcore PK]

Warrior in pvp is far from useless, especially in group pvp. High hp and great jousting weapons + discs make them very viable.

[billyinorganic]

Thanks Softcore, i have been reading your posts.

I like you..

[Softcore PK]

Thanks Softcore, i have been reading your posts.

I like you..

Hey, thanks! I like you too :)

[georgie]

warriors aren't the best at pvp. i mean if you get a decent 2h you will do decent dps especially when you get crits and being an ogre you will probably eat 3 nukes before your in big trouble and since your ogre you can probably bash wizards and shit before they cast that 6 second cast. just dont be caught alone with a levi-caster

[pickled_heretic]

spend all your time in dungeons, grouped. problem solved. i am tempted to roll a warrior myself tbh. but i can't stand only having 3 buttons at any given time.

[billyinorganic]

"spend all your time in dungeons, grouped."

Travel.

See..

You talk about that..

But the truth is..

The guild creators will wrest the power.

And pk guilds have a lot of power when they form prior to server creation.

The competition should be intense.

Pre-mades will dominate the first quarter.

Then the power structures will start to fall apart.

It's the cycle of server start, pvp.

[billyinorganic]

Any ways i was going to go Dark Elf warrior..

So pro guys... so pro.

[Softcore PK]

Dark elves are where it's at imo!

[billyinorganic]

"Anti-PK, Anti-Grief, Anti-Table Authoritarianism"

heh.....

[pickled_heretic]

"spend all your time in dungeons, grouped."

Travel.

See..

You talk about that..

But the truth is..

The guild creators will wrest the power.

And pk guilds have a lot of power when they form prior to server creation.

The competition should be intense.

Pre-mades will dominate the first quarter.

Then the power structures will start to fall apart.

It's the cycle of server start, pvp.

what drugs are you on?

[billyinorganic]

This is exactly how I knew the server was going to turn out. Tons of VZTZ people all zerging together to avoid PvP entirely. I warned Rogean of this long ago and told him the only way to nullify the effect of the VZTZ zerg was to make it a team based server. Otherwise, whoever zergs the server with the biggest pre-made guild on day 1 wins.

At least with teams, there would have actually been a viable counter insurgency, definitely won't be one with FFA. It will require at least two, giant, p99, blue guilds to transfer over for this server not to be god awful now.

Not even trying to brag, I'm the only person I can even think of offhand that can actually kill any of these people in a 1vs1 on this list that aren't in the guild except maybe Darwoth and a TINY HANDFUL of others. *MAYBE* Abacab on a lucky day lol. What the hell is the point of making a guild with 0 competition?

I highlighted the important part.

[tbox]

Orge warrior then just get a DE mask. Pretty sure in classic you could use it from inv.

[pickled_heretic]

I highlighted the important part.

whoa. i thought we were talking about warriors here.

[Knuckle]

Holler at your boy knuckle at level 50 when your trying to get your hands on CT lewt scum. I'll be monsooning all over your face.

[billyinorganic]

Warriors are the important part.

WITHOUT WARRIORS THERE WILL BE NO RESISTANCE...

[pickled_heretic]

http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/not-sure-if-trolling-or-not.jpg

[billyinorganic]

not trolling.

[pickled_heretic]

not trolling.

i give up. you win, i've been trolled. hahaha you're soo funny. congratulations.

[billyinorganic]

i'm serious.

how many pvp server starts have you been a part of?

I know the game is not all about winning... But there is going to be some guilds / groups who have a lot more power and control... and thus can camp shit / people. It's a big deal really.

The secret is warriors... massive influx of newbie warriors on release day... You find out everything about the zerg guilds and camp their newb zones and prevent them from catching boats..

Start harassing them on day one in random droves.

Log warrior... just run out start killing shit asap... get lv 3...

Camp time... own the newb zones..

[pickled_heretic]

i'm serious.

how many pvp server starts have you been a part of?

I know the game is not all about winning... But there is going to be some guilds / groups who have a lot more power and control... and thus can camp shit / people. It's a big deal really.

The secret is warriors... massive influx of newbie warriors on release day... You find out everything about the zerg guilds and camp their newb zones and prevent them from catching boats..

Start harassing them on day one in random droves.

Log warrior... just run out start killing shit asap... get lv 3...

Camp time... own the newb zones..

okay. i thought this thread was about warriors, not conspiracy theories. i'm obviously in the wrong place.

[billyinorganic]

I also wanted to learn about gvg warrior strategies..

Anyone who has info on that please share.

Also, 1v1 viability? I'm thinking not much you can do past lv 10 or so.

[Nirgon]

The monsoon gets talked up a lot but don't forget about the Sunderfury (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=443). If anyone gets a blade storm (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=450) it will be hilarious for killing nakeds / gimps.

[Rust1d?]

I loved playing a warrior, but only in groups and only when I finally got decent gear.

[Knuckle]

The monsoon gets talked up a lot but don't forget about the Sunderfury (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=443). If anyone gets a blade storm (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=450) it will be hilarious for killing nakeds / gimps.

sunderfury is shit compared to monsoon. not a bad weapon but not even close to the monsoon.

[Not_Kazowi]

sunderfury is shit compared to monsoon. not a bad weapon but not even close to the monsoon.

sunderfury will be easier to obtain, at least it was on vztz

[juicedsixfo]

Yeah, much easier to obtain. I'd settle for that as my end game weapon no problem.

[Nirgon]

I wouldn't kick it out of bed.

[Nune]

The point...

Of this thread...

Is...

...?

[Gnar]

I know warrior in pvp is useless.


a good warrior who can stay on a targets ass and land running hits will win many fights. warriors will get shit on lvling to 50 and thats about it. Once guild and grp pvp starts its over for people who think like this.

[Kain]

I've dueled a few warriors as an sk not using spells and I've lost most of them.
Its insane when they go berserk, they can crip 300-500 damage which is pretty much a harmtouch.
If SK's are the "uber" pvp class I keep hearing about, then at the very least warriors are very close in potential.

The only real downside I noticed is after the duel (we stop at 10%) they have a much longer downtime without lifetaps.
If your grouped with guildies this isn't as big of a deal, and from what I've seen most people like to roll in groups.
Which is too bad since I wanted some samurai style one on one duels, but most people seem to just want to zerg people.
So a warrior is fine...unless the entire server hates you lol.

I was wondering, won't bladestorm also aoe the wielder since this is a pvp server thus potentially killing himself?

And yes, Holocaust will definitely outfit their officer/leaders first and use the rest of the people as the Erudite zerg wall.
Though some people don't mind being peons. Zug Zug!

[Lovely]

The scurreddd sheep might not get much loot but they still need their herd for safety.

[Knuckle]

It's funny to see people playing a solo class talking shit about guilds as if every class can solo and pvp effectively as such. quit being retards.

[Tombom]

kain- A) dueling to 10% is pussy shit anything can happen in that last tenth.
B) as an sk if you cannot beat a warr 1v1 you are literally a bad player

[Kain]

Dueling a warrior NOT using spells, handicapping myself.

Its to 10% because there were other pvp engagements waiting in the area.

Make one damn typo and make a big fail. I kept trying to joust ya Tom but you logged off :(

[lethdar]

I've dueled a few warriors as an sk not using spells and I've lost most of them.
Its insane when they go berserk, they can crip 300-500 damage which is pretty much a harmtouch.
If SK's are the "uber" pvp class I keep hearing about, then at the very least warriors are very close in potential.

The only real downside I noticed is after the duel (we stop at 10%) they have a much longer downtime without lifetaps.
If your grouped with guildies this isn't as big of a deal, and from what I've seen most people like to roll in groups.
Which is too bad since I wanted some samurai style one on one duels, but most people seem to just want to zerg people.
So a warrior is fine...unless the entire server hates you lol.

I was wondering, won't bladestorm also aoe the wielder since this is a pvp server thus potentially killing himself?

And yes, Holocaust will definitely outfit their officer/leaders first and use the rest of the people as the Erudite zerg wall.
Though some people don't mind being peons. Zug Zug!

hahaha my god, you're so bad. You're dueling with an sk without using spells against a warrior and seem surprised you're losing? You've pretty much shouted out to the world, "HEY 70% of a pie is less than 100% of a pie!!!!!".

No shit sherlock, without spells an sk is a lower hp warrior with lower skill caps. THANK YOU FOR THE HOT NEW INFO.

[Crazerous]

It's funny to see people playing a solo class talking shit about guilds as if every class can solo and pvp effectively as such. quit being retards.


no class needs 60 players to level

[Knuckle]

no class needs 60 players to level

let me know how many guildless warriors you see, because im sure theyll pop a boner using an exe axe for 2 years untill they get an axe of lost souls in kunark which is still a shit weapon while im face raping groups with argent protector/epics.

[Kain]

hahaha my god, you're so bad. You're dueling with an sk without using spells against a warrior and seem surprised you're losing? You've pretty much shouted out to the world, "HEY 70% of a pie is less than 100% of a pie!!!!!".

No shit sherlock, without spells an sk is a lower hp warrior with lower skill caps. THANK YOU FOR THE HOT NEW INFO.

lethdar are you really as stupid as you seem? Please tell me your only pretending. :(

[lethdar]

lethdar are you really as stupid as you seem? Please tell me your only pretending. :(

Dunno brah, lemme know if you're only pretending.

[Kain]

lethdar, you didn't understand the "why" behind my words, thus you assumed many things that aren't true regarding my post.

Its like someone laughing at Kobe practicing a spin and saying "why not just shoot the ball? lol so stupid!"

[billyinorganic]

Regardless of that ...

So whats the news about AGI, i heard it will be effecting PVP larger then PVE..

Any official statements / equations?

[gloinz]

damn kain's scvs are getting destroyed by mutalisks

[socialist]

Warriors are alright. Access to generally better weapons than hybrids, including a super easy 2hander with 25dmg which will make you great pvp dps until people start getting vox spear or the 30dmg weapons from planes. Crits mean you can do considerable burst damage even though it's not very reliable and kinda rare, but still it's pretty brutal to smack a caster for a max damage crit and then a second max damage normal hit from double attack

innate mr means you don't have to wear so much resist gear to hit the critical mr value, allowing you to wear some hp gear or fr/cr gear. Depending on how the final resist system pans out, it might not be worth wearing fr/cr gear at all until you can get insane amounts, so you'd be able to sit at 100-120ish mr while also having like +250 hp in gear

If you roll an ogre warrior like a non-retard and wear 250 extra hp in gear, you'll be at something like 2500 unbuffed which is huge when casters have like 1k and hybrids/rogues/monks have 1500-1800ish. 2500 hp means you'd survive three full ice comets and many casters won't have the mana to take you out by themselves at all

alternately you can have 2250ish hp while wearing decent fr/cr gear if the resist system makess that worthwhile. a hybrid or caster can't get respectable levels in all three main resists without the absolute best pvp gear

Of course in kunark warriors get even better and their various discs let them do huge damage while hybrid damage doesn't really go up except from the better weapons you can get. All the 3 pure melees get huge buffs in kunark and top geared warriors, rogues and monks will probably be among the strongest pvp units then