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Not_Kazowi
11-04-2011, 03:05 PM
i know most will say large race for slam, but thinking long term whats the best races you guys think in your opinion?

Crenshinabon
11-04-2011, 03:10 PM
The only choice is large for slam and higher str/stamina.
Anything smaller you are gimping yourself of a crucial interupt.

Just be prepared to get frustrated as fuck inside dungeons without shrink pots.

Kunark will open up all the other options with kickstun.
I really wish it was implemented on this server from the beginning.

Amuk
11-04-2011, 03:15 PM
For pvp IMO Trolls. During classic you get slam, and then come kunark the regen is quite a bit better - match it with a fungi and it's a huge jousting advantage.

pickled_heretic
11-04-2011, 03:19 PM
pick the things you like out of this list, and choose for yourself. list was made with kunark in mind


not a perfect list, but here's my reasons to be an X warrior:

god tier: innate AC / frontal stun immunity
(iksar, ogre)

top tier: innate regen
(iksar, troll)

high tier: innate slam
(troll, barb, ogre)

good tier: uber warrior stats
(dwarf, troll, ogre, barb)

mid tier: exp bonus
(halfling)

low tier: hide or sneak (or both)
(wood elf, halfling, dark elf)

not being stuck everywhere because you're fucking huge and fat tier:
(every race but barb, ogre, troll)

lololol im so unique shit tier:
(gnome, dark elf, wood elf)

ugly crap tincan helmet tier:
(human)

your mileage may vary

pickled_heretic
11-04-2011, 03:29 PM
from a pure minmax perspective i'd say ogre is the clear winner because he has something none of the others do and none can reproduce which is stun immunity (which apparently will work from ALL directions in pvp... not just from the front). iksar ac bonus doesn't play a major role until velious at which point it becomes rather op, but the stun immunity will carry through from start to finish.

regen is not a big deal for a warrior who really needs to be grouped and buffed to do a whole lot anyway. you rolled your warrior to group up with others, right?

Muaar
11-04-2011, 03:30 PM
Ogre best but if you're a pro why roll the "best" race? Go wit something unique but not gimped. A Barbarian warrior would be cool.

Mardur
11-04-2011, 03:31 PM
Dumb question, Ogre.

Kain
11-04-2011, 03:32 PM
Has ogre stun immunity been implemented yet? I saw a post from 2010 that it wasn't working properly.

Samoht
11-04-2011, 03:34 PM
long term as in velious ? then 100% its gonna be ogre.

+ worship rallos zek

Kain
11-04-2011, 03:39 PM
I'd like to also add that the "Best of the Best" Shadowknight tournament was won by a human.

I only recall one ogre made it to the finals with mostly dark elf and a few trolls.

This is regarding the tournament with the top shadowknights from each server.

Muaar
11-04-2011, 03:44 PM
The pro warriors I remember were all dark elf. Style points out the ass plus you look like Dracula from Bram Stokers'

Not_Kazowi
11-04-2011, 03:58 PM
i know ogre is clutch, slam and stun immunity. but i had some buddies do some tests and apparantly agi is going to play a huge roll in avoidance, bigger than the last server we played on. I am in between a ogre and wood elf, i played ogre for 3 years on VZTZ but im thinking about switching it up. Considering i will be in DE form on my ogre a lot, making slam not possible, im thinking not having slam until kunark would be doable. kind of on the fence here

mitic
11-04-2011, 04:02 PM
gnome hands down

SearyxTZ
11-04-2011, 04:09 PM
gnome or dark elf


rexx needs the ezmode tho so go ogre or troll

solid
11-04-2011, 04:21 PM
Troll is a retarded choice, no reason to take the FR hit.
Barring AGI potentially being OP, as Rexx has brought up, Ogre are the best. Dwarves getting +MR makes them my 2nd fav race.

Eventually though, Iksar Planar makes Iksar the King of Warriors, but that's not relevant to this discussion.

Softcore PK
11-04-2011, 04:31 PM
My favorite warriors were always dark elves, half elves and wood elves. Of course, for most of my time on live I was elf purist so..

juicedsixfo
11-04-2011, 04:31 PM
If you're going put your eggs in one basket and pray for AGI to be OP, then I'd still go half elf over limp-wristed wood elves, just for the additional 5 in sta, str, and dex.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ik6wat.jpg

Still, I'm not going to risk it. I'm going Ogre Warrior.

Samoht
11-04-2011, 04:36 PM
or you can go wood elf for hide + forage and small size (lighter armour + dwarven ringmail tunic)

juicedsixfo
11-04-2011, 04:39 PM
Sure, if you like picking berries.

solid
11-04-2011, 04:41 PM
Rather than edit my old post I'll put this here.

Depends on how far you're forecasting too. Eventually kick stun negates slam, and full Kunark warrior gear will cap any race's STA- at which point ogre will maintain their frontal stun immunity but will be lacking AGI.

Softcore PK
11-04-2011, 04:42 PM
Dark Elves are limited to agnostic, Innoruuk and Rallos Zek for deity. Wood elves have more interesting options, like Bristlebane, Karana and Tunare. So imo unless you wanna be an evil (or agnostic, but that's so yawn) warrior, wood elf is the way to go. And if you DO want to be evil, gnomes can go bertox..

Samoht
11-04-2011, 04:48 PM
all warriors can be evil: rallos zek

it doesn't really make halflings evil here for some reason, though.

georgie
11-04-2011, 04:51 PM
i know most will say large race for slam, but thinking long term whats the best races you guys think in your opinion?

iksar warrior, you will get better planar i think well for sks the planar is better

Knuckle
11-04-2011, 05:16 PM
We need 2 be ogre or welf warrior bros :cool:

stonetz
11-04-2011, 05:22 PM
Ogre or another race for style points, that's all it comes down to.

Nune
11-04-2011, 05:28 PM
Ogre or another race for style points, that's all it comes down to.

qft

Nune
11-04-2011, 06:18 PM
yea well like i said, if ur talking long term as in velious, it is no doubt going to be ogre.

classic and kunark, might not be as true tho. troll is never the choice, FR hit is gross and much worse stats, just for a slight edge in regen?

idk, in kunark i think wood elves are super underrated. awesome agil and dex, plus 55 u get kick stun. kunark gear u will break 200 str/sta easily np. at the same rate, i think iksars make the best warriors but then ud have to wait for kunark to make one.

Yes, with AC being broken-ish and War's taking max hits everyone should roll a Woodie War at launch :] Looks like I Just may rack up a few kills as a Bard afterall

Pudge
11-04-2011, 06:21 PM
rexx isnt rexx if he looks like a pansy half elf

Shinabaa
11-04-2011, 06:40 PM
Why not go halfling, they hide and sneak. And you get +5 exp. And stats are good.

tbox
11-04-2011, 06:51 PM
If all major stats cap in Kunark, is a cha a factor for that lvl 60 cleric spell Divine Intervention?

georgie
11-04-2011, 06:51 PM
yeah halfling better than we

Xantille
11-04-2011, 07:04 PM
Wood elf warrior, confirmed superior choice.

juicedsixfo
11-04-2011, 07:20 PM
choice.

I read that as douche the first time

Lovely
11-04-2011, 07:32 PM
Gnome for style!

Not_Kazowi
11-04-2011, 07:38 PM
We need 2 be ogre or welf warrior bros :cool:

either were brogres or bro elfs.

Cwall
11-04-2011, 08:29 PM
if you're a bad enough dude to wait it out through classic, wood elf for sure

Crazerous
11-04-2011, 08:32 PM
go woodelf, pussies

Knuckle
11-04-2011, 08:54 PM
One big problem with wood elves is we start in fucking kelethin around all the faggots rolling mages.

Darksinga
11-04-2011, 09:18 PM
Wood elf warrior, confirmed superior choice.

If I remember correctly on Daxum box, Xantille was a Wood elf.

Damage on that server was kind of retarded as a warrior though, I had a barbarian warrior who would crip for 1k with BABs.... lololol.

Gnar
11-04-2011, 09:24 PM
pray for AGI to be OP, then I'd still go half elf over limp-wristed wood elves, just for the additional 5 in sta, str, and dex.





spoken like a true blue

Knuckle
11-04-2011, 09:43 PM
god want 2 play wood elf i played wood elf and half elf warrior on live :D

Bazia
11-04-2011, 09:51 PM
god want 2 play wood elf i played wood elf and half elf warrior on live :D

I think either would be cool, I like how they made an appeal to picking a different race then the automatic OGR selection.

I think HEF is cooler, one mans opinion.

Not_Kazowi
11-05-2011, 12:54 AM
going to pick ogre or wood elf at random on char select on the 18th pals

Envious
11-05-2011, 01:32 AM
I could tell you...

But I'm not going to.

Shrubwise
11-05-2011, 01:36 AM
Hands-down, gnome. Gnome warrior. They're too small and the mobs miss alot swinging at them. Also they're able to deliver crucial strikes to the enemie's shins, prompting a "snared" effect. At level 65 they get a Gnome-only tinkering cloak which has a bubble effect. At level 70 they can tinker a hearthstone. Also they have innate gold finding abilities.

Be a gnome!

Lovely
11-05-2011, 07:10 AM
going to pick ogre or wood elf at random on char select on the 18th pals

In before it becomes an OGRE. So much for the random!

Knuckle
11-05-2011, 10:14 AM
should be a random race select option

SearyxTZ
11-05-2011, 11:56 AM
wood elf so I can be gnome and we can be mortal enemies again


ogre is ezmode for newbs

wood elves sort glass better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFLcHY5pPI

Not_Kazowi
11-05-2011, 11:58 AM
ogre isnt really easy mode, being huge as fuck is pretty horrid in jousting and dungeon pvp. still 50 50 here bros

Softcore PK
11-05-2011, 01:38 PM
Be ogre like a good min/maxer!

skorge
11-05-2011, 01:57 PM
ive played a halfling war to 27 on blue server...twinking with pre-kunark items (granite bracers x 2, mith plated girth, etc) i had just as much sta and str as any ogre, plus i got bonus exp and the ability to hide and sneak...WINNING! Take that ogres and wood elfs!

PVPBetaChamps
11-05-2011, 01:57 PM
rexx look at that pic in ur sig, if that aint the cutest thing u ever did see - then im not sure we can b pals

Amuk
11-05-2011, 09:28 PM
Ignore the haters and go troll.

Muaar
11-05-2011, 09:33 PM
darkelf. perfect counterpoint to ogre

Mardur
11-05-2011, 09:48 PM
Dark Elf is the worst warrior race in the game. Gnomes have better stats. Check it out.

Naez 4.20
11-05-2011, 09:52 PM
theory flawed dark elf has hide

Muaar
11-05-2011, 10:28 PM
also they have class

Beastro
11-05-2011, 11:29 PM
How bout Rogean just enables High Elf/Erudite warriors to be made for the first week of launch.

Buhbuh
11-06-2011, 03:15 AM
I think Trolls have a lot of weight as Warriors. Ogres get a tad more str/ sta in the beginning, but later (as in Velious -- Barbs, Ogres, and Trolls will see the max in those categories first). If it were expansions past that, no class would be beneficial over the other stat-wise.

But Trolls also share similarities with Iksars, in that they have a standing regen of 12 at lvl 60, and I believe they have night vision naturally. They also have slam. They're huge, which can suck in some instances, but if you're a warrior, then a lot of the time being huge is your purpose (to be noticable, to be in the way, to be an immovable force). You'll have trouble gaining the same amount of dex/agi as any other warrior, but to a large extent your hp will far exceed other warriors who aren't biggies.

I'm partial to regen, though. That was always the massive benefit to being an Ikky monk. Fungi/ spirit cord/ Dain 10 ring was insane. That's like 39 a tick running around. In a case where you can't get a DoT off of you, it's super effective in at least absorbing a big portion of the damage. In jousting situations that take time, there's a serious edge too. It just depends on what you value more.

Mardur
11-06-2011, 03:37 AM
theory flawed dark elf has hide

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/9/a/9a593f7857e18cf94ea5e0b30e0de75c.png

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/c/9/c9e50ebe5bc95ffcbc86613c15c82ea0.png

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/6/d/6df86ce64b41970f5aa2e719a796d0a9.png

juicedsixfo
11-06-2011, 05:39 AM
spoken like a true blue

lol Gnar, the joke of every single EQemu box past and present, deciding on what's "blue" or not

the irony here is palpable.

Smedy
11-06-2011, 09:05 AM
i know most will say large race for slam, but thinking long term whats the best races you guys think in your opinion?

I actually refused to play a fatso this time around. Just the fat hanging all over the place not being able to move in guk and other dungeons, fuk it dog, goin shortie again.

Not_Kazowi
11-06-2011, 02:06 PM
I actually refused to play a fatso this time around. Just the fat hanging all over the place not being able to move in guk and other dungeons, fuk it dog, goin shortie again.
I'm so on the fence between ogre and wood elf.. I feel like I need to go ogre to uphold the true big rexx mentality..

Naez 4.20
11-06-2011, 02:11 PM
its best to be big bad ogre cause then everyone assists on rexx, you are Heresy's cho'gath

Smedy
11-06-2011, 02:16 PM
I never feared rexx, ever....

Xantille however, that 40lbs indian boy could do some damage with his woodelf, but the day he rolled troll he became just another shitty warrior on the block.

The magic was the woodelf.

Naez 4.20
11-06-2011, 02:27 PM
wood elf does start with high +SEX

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5115/mush.png http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9053/eq001000.jpg

Bazia
11-06-2011, 02:32 PM
I'm so on the fence between ogre and wood elf.. I feel like I need to go ogre to uphold the true big rexx mentality..

OGR + Guise = WIN

Not_Kazowi
11-06-2011, 02:41 PM
I never feared rexx, ever....

Xantille however, that 40lbs indian boy could do some damage with his woodelf, but the day he rolled troll he became just another shitty warrior on the block.

The magic was the woodelf.


You feared me bro, I remember countless times you rolled to a zone and plugged. It's cool though

Smedy
11-06-2011, 02:47 PM
You feared me bro, I remember countless times you rolled to a zone and plugged. It's cool though

Rexx never rolled solo, thus i never feared you, Xantille however, his name in the zone you knew shit was going down, even if you had 15 peoples backup.

Wood Elf, fuck yeah

I know you feared the paladin bros, remember when we chain stunned you and destroyed you with 2x Jeldorin bro, yeah the resists were fucked up but at least kringe fixed MQ

http://if-guild.com/wp-content/gallery/vztz-pictures/EQ000693.jpg

Doors
11-06-2011, 02:50 PM
LOL Rexx getting his ass beat. Similar to a situation only a few weeks ago that resulted in a ragequit.

Xantille
11-06-2011, 03:15 PM
at least kringe fixed MQ

Not_Kazowi
11-06-2011, 04:22 PM
Pretty sure that screen shot alone is proof I rolled solo. I used to roll solo all the time. I know what happened on that server as well as you. I don't need to post screenshots or carry the convo further.

Amuk
11-06-2011, 06:14 PM
I think Trolls have a lot of weight as Warriors. Ogres get a tad more str/ sta in the beginning, but later (as in Velious -- Barbs, Ogres, and Trolls will see the max in those categories first). If it were expansions past that, no class would be beneficial over the other stat-wise.

But Trolls also share similarities with Iksars, in that they have a standing regen of 12 at lvl 60, and I believe they have night vision naturally. They also have slam. They're huge, which can suck in some instances, but if you're a warrior, then a lot of the time being huge is your purpose (to be noticable, to be in the way, to be an immovable force). You'll have trouble gaining the same amount of dex/agi as any other warrior, but to a large extent your hp will far exceed other warriors who aren't biggies.

I'm partial to regen, though. That was always the massive benefit to being an Ikky monk. Fungi/ spirit cord/ Dain 10 ring was insane. That's like 39 a tick running around. In a case where you can't get a DoT off of you, it's super effective in at least absorbing a big portion of the damage. In jousting situations that take time, there's a serious edge too. It just depends on what you value more.

That's just it, you can stack your regen nicely - I was a troll war with a fungi/tusk and it would give a huge edge, if it's vs melee you can literally force them to make shitty jousts just because you're regening so much. Hang back play somewhat defensive with fake jousts and force them to be aggressive. -20fr meh, if you're in a grp and they're focusing you that's a win anyway, and if you're solo, that war vs caster fight probably won't go your way in most situations anyway. I am sure people can theorycraft this shit to make trolls look shitty, but big race stats regen and slam = win, + look sick as hell.

Muaar
11-06-2011, 06:15 PM
Pretty sure that screen shot alone is proof I rolled solo. I used to roll solo all the time. I know what happened on that server as well as you. I don't need to post screenshots or carry the convo further.

Way back when Rexx was solo and helped out my shaman for like 2 hours. Liars found.

Smedy
11-06-2011, 06:19 PM
Rexx use to be solo with his cleric in solb, near zonelines, otherwise rarely spotted without an escort.

Once caught riding dirty in steamfont, we did a drive by <3

Taluvill
11-06-2011, 06:56 PM
The problem is 90% of tank-types will be SK's, less being Paladins. the other 10% will be warrior twink alts.

Softcore PK
11-06-2011, 06:58 PM
The problem is 90% of tank-types will be SK's, less being Paladins. the other 10% will be warrior twink alts.

lots of vztz fefs going warrior it seems

Nirgon
11-07-2011, 03:56 PM
Halfling confirmed best warrior race with Hide (and xp bonus) if that's what you want. Otherwise, ogre.

Lovely
11-07-2011, 04:01 PM
Rexx use to be solo with his cleric in solb, near zonelines, otherwise rarely spotted without an escort.

Once caught riding dirty in steamfont, we did a drive by <3

LOL was it like that on some other emu as well? Every time I saw Rexx on this beta was at the Sol B zone line with a boxed Cleric :D

Naez 4.20
11-07-2011, 04:07 PM
only fefs use words like fef

Not_Kazowi
11-07-2011, 05:08 PM
LOL was it like that on some other emu as well? Every time I saw Rexx on this beta was at the Sol B zone line with a boxed Cleric :D

yeah bros, let me play a melee solo with no healer for full immersion

Nirgon
11-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Everyone who pvps as a group will be labeled a bluebie or zerg.

Knuckle
11-07-2011, 05:46 PM
Any warrior who doesnt solo to level 60 and run around naked in crushbone going LOL NEWB as you gib players is terrible at the game and is a pussy bluebie zergling.

Nirgon
11-07-2011, 05:50 PM
^ I'd add to this that they didn't play on live either.

Nune
11-07-2011, 06:21 PM
Any warrior who doesnt solo to level 60 and run around naked in crushbone going LOL NEWB as you gib players is terrible at the game and is a pussy bluebie zergling.

ya, stick up for your bros, bros.

Knuckle
11-07-2011, 06:56 PM
I really enjoy soloing as a warrior in PVE. Really makes me feel accomplished when /played shows 7 months and your level 45.

gloinz
11-07-2011, 07:16 PM
fungi tunic solo warrior ftw

Combobreaker
11-08-2011, 01:20 AM
If war or sk, definitely ogre. I'd reconsider if kick could stun of course.

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11-08-2011, 01:56 AM
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11-08-2011, 02:07 AM
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11-08-2011, 02:11 AM
i cant play, but i will play vicariously through the forums. keep the block hot for big cface. maybe ill see some of my pals in 2012 :(

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11-08-2011, 02:54 AM
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11-08-2011, 03:15 AM
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11-08-2011, 03:26 AM
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