Melee in PVP vs Melee vs Mobs

[Lovely]

Hm I'm not sure if anyone else noticed this. Usually when I pvp on my 50 Wizard and melee hit me it seems like they almost hit for max damage all the time or at least a very chance of hitting like 75-100% of their max damage.

I know I'm just a level 4 Wizard on this screenshot but has anyone else noticed something similar?

Here is a Lvl 4 Wizard hitting a Level 2 Cleric. Basically hit for 75-100% of max damage every hit until he died.

http://imageshack.dk/imagesfree/LK392862.jpg

This is Level 4 Wizards vs a level 2 mob. It's basically always like this vs all mobs. Just hitting for the lowest amount or close to it all the time. Very rarely max hits (I know I'm just a Wizard with low str blabla) but still why would it be max damage everytime in PVP?

http://imageshack.dk/imagesfree/gb792877.jpg

Piercing and Offensive are both 15ish (Had them maxed before I dinged)

Is it suppose to be like this?

[Softcore PK]

Hmm? 6 is max damage for a 3 dmg weapon at that level I think.

EDIT: ohhh I see. That does seem pretty strange.

[dcapotos]

Low AC targets?

[Diggles]

i think it's the fact that he's hitting every single time

[lethdar]

Oh i dont know, HMMM, perhaps this little thing called armor class?

[lethdar]

Pop on a full suit of cloth or rawhide on a lvl 2 and let us know how it goes.

[Galacticus]

No it is not supposed to be like this. That is why melee is broken. Its an emu issue from what I read but I dont see how it cant be tweaked by our expert dev guru team.

[Amuk]

In the event I wasn't really hitting for max dmg or all the time, tons of misses, tons of low dmg. Same thing I noticed with melees hitting me.

I noticed at lvl 1 my druid box could pvp better than my rogue, and would hit for 8 consistently.

I don't really see how it matters, or why it happens - if a caster has a high hit % the only one who it might be too good for is perhaps a shaman with a 2hnder? I don't even know if this is how it is applied, but it really seems insignificant, and I can assure you as a rogue I wasn't spamming max hits, and I know for warriors the hit rate/dmg rate was causing some rage in vent ~ I imagine hybrids is even worse, but haven't tested it.

[Lovely]

Main reason for this post was so someone would go test it. I'm curious to see the results. I just know that when I've had 50 monks beating on me it always felt like they hit for 75-100% of their damage non-stop.

[Bazia]

Main reason for this post was so someone would go test it. I'm curious to see the results. I just know that when I've had 50 monks beating on me it always felt like they hit for 75-100% of their damage non-stop.

Ok so according to your posts melee's hit too hard, nukes are too weak, and buff stripping clickies should remain rechargable.

And you're a WIZ, doesn't seem biased at all.

I was hitting people with a 10/22 weapon for 18-22 DMG with 140 STR.

Yeah melee is WAY OP Y"ALL.

[Bazia]

Trolling you because you sat with a gank squad at the QH ZL killing nude CR solo'ers with clickies trying to get back to the PvP event to have fun and then after posted screenshots bragging you were "15-0"

You're a douche Lovely and I'm very MAD about it.

[Sprinkle]

several things are taken into account here

first your hitting a mob directly in front of you

mobs have better defense then players , plus basic ac

the person you were hitting prob had none , was LOWER level then you , and had like defense at 5

and were you even behind the guy?

[Lovely]

Ok so according to your posts melee's hit too hard, nukes are too weak, and buff stripping clickies should remain rechargable.

And you're a WIZ, doesn't seem biased at all.

I was hitting people with a 10/22 weapon for 18-22 DMG with 140 STR.

Yeah melee is WAY OP Y"ALL.

You forgot one thing. DOTS ARE way way to overpowered also :D:D:D

[lethdar]

You forgot one thing. DOTS ARE way way to overpowered also :D:D:D

Dots are pathetic against anyone with a clue. Only OP vs newbies.

[Diggles]

i camped the gfay bind point and dotted everyone who died from the event

[Lovely]

Well here is some melee testing on different AC/Defense targets. I have no opinion on it myself atm.

http://imageshack.dk/imagesfree/Ryh06110.jpg

[mimixownzall]

I posted this same thing. My shaman has 140+ agi and dex and it seems like the hit rate against me is 90+ percent with only 4 misses in an entire fight. Not only is the hit rate really high, the damage seemed to be really high also though I had close to 600 AC.

Now that I have a 50 war with maxxed skills, I will do some testing and post them later when I get home but my work schedule is fucking over my playtime lately.

[Amuk]

Looks pretty good to me, the squishies got their shit pushed in and the SK tanked like a boss.

[Amuk]

493 ac is so low for the sham heh what is he wearing.

Also very key info is what str/weapon yummy is using, if he's str buffed (by the shaman i imagine) and has 200+ str that's very useful info heh.

I was tossed a str buff half way through the event and noticed a fairly big dps increase.

[Lovely]

SK had STR buff only and Rogue was level 49 and had 0 buffs. Rogue did a lot higher damage later on when we buffed him with STR. But think I forgot to SS it.

My goal was mainly just to see the difference on different AC/Defense classes.

[Amuk]

And TBH it should be tested against an average guk mob too - to see if there's a big pvp/pve difference - I'm fighting guards and shit on a monk I got lvld/geared and he's raping npcs for like quad 50's and shit heh. I never tried with my rogue - but I imagine it's similar dmg to what sharts putting out vs mobs, if not higher.

[Sprinkle]

those melee tables look fine to me

[valithteezee]

When STR/Dex was added into the mix i put out quite a bit more DPS wise.