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Dakienx
10-26-2011, 02:01 AM
Darthness/Damme/Aliaga has taken 21k plus gear from me.. I've put in a petition so please be aware of this! We've been gaming for a few weeks and moved gear back and forth a few times. This time however she's kept it and is ignoring me and every other friends I have.

BE AWARE PLEASE!

EverquestJunkie
10-26-2011, 02:17 AM
Wasnt really sure he was telling the truth but the guy that jacked his items is ingame rubbin it in this poor guys face as we speak =(

mostbitter
10-26-2011, 02:28 AM
...

Ingrum
10-26-2011, 03:19 AM
While it is not the GMs responsibility to ensure your items are kept safe after you willingly hand them off to other players, this asshole does deserve to be punished for violating known server policies.

Good luck getting your stuff back. Hopefully if there is no GM intervention the community will blacklist him/her for being a d*ck.

Diggles
10-26-2011, 03:51 AM
No truce with the shadow

Ingrum
10-26-2011, 04:22 AM
No truce with the shadow

Yes. Evil-doers like this should be shunned and no groups or trades should be made with them!

Dakienx
10-26-2011, 05:24 AM
Thank you everyone that was around when this all went down. Amelinda is such a warm individual who took the time to listen and handle the situation. I did receive my gear and money back via GM. Puts me on high alert as to what kind of friends I make and who i do and do not trust. See you all in game.

~ Dak

kilyen
10-26-2011, 05:34 AM
nice to see you got your stuff back

Ingrum
10-26-2011, 05:40 AM
Thank you everyone that was around when this all went down. Amelinda is such a warm individual who took the time to listen and handle the situation. I did receive my gear and money back via GM. Puts me on high alert as to what kind of friends I make and who i do and do not trust. See you all in game.

~ Dak

Glad to hear it!

Smyd
10-26-2011, 05:42 AM
GM intervention or not, definitely on my personal black list.
Thanks for the heads up.

EnnoiaII
10-26-2011, 06:51 AM
Thank you everyone that was around when this all went down. Amelinda is such a warm individual who took the time to listen and handle the situation. I did receive my gear and money back via GM. Puts me on high alert as to what kind of friends I make and who i do and do not trust. See you all in game.

~ Dak

Never use random people to transfer gear. Bob, Icasinol, and all of the other big time traders are more than trustworthy enough and definitely kind enough to transfer gear for you to another character if they have room and aren't already holding a lore item, since they hang around in EC most of the time anyway.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 07:21 AM
you should not have had anything returned and GMs should not be protecting people from their own bad decisions, hopefully there will not be this kind of interference on red where i kill some guy with a bunch of money and he cries loud enough and has someone come save the day.

loopholbrook
10-26-2011, 07:29 AM
you should not have had anything returned and GMs should not be protecting people from their own bad decisions, hopefully there will not be this kind of interference on red where i kill some guy with a bunch of money and he cries loud enough and has someone come save the day.

Poop on your nose internet hard ass. Get over your e-self and start living in the real world. It's a game to have fun, why would you discourage fun? Butt horn.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 07:32 AM
in the real world retardation has consequences that are not generally relieved by some benevolent entity.

was probably also fun for the guy stealing the other guys stuff, why should we eliminate one guys fun in lieu of anothers?

Awwalike
10-26-2011, 07:36 AM
xfer with real pals only~

loopholbrook
10-26-2011, 07:38 AM
in the real world retardation has consequences that are not generally relieved by some benevolent entity.

was probably also fun for the guy stealing the other guys stuff, why should we eliminate one guys fun in lieu of anothers?

So somebody can rob your house and they shouldn't have punishment because it was for them? That makes sense. Ever heard of scam or fraud, though this is almost insignificant, it is still scam. What happens when people steal? Jail, so your logic doesn't really make sense whatsoever. Whatever though. Hope you have fun in your obviously secluded world.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 07:51 AM
scamming is a legitimate playstyle just as much as mindlessly killing 20 million mobs, pretty sure genocide and murder are both illegal in the real world as well.

if someone hands over shit to someone else and/or "shares" accounts/items with someone else and that someone else ends up helping themselves it is nobodys fault but the person who allowed for it to happen.

policing it just leads to more issues when soandso decides to make up a story about a previously agreed to arrangement, even verant did not get involved in such matters.

kilyen
10-26-2011, 07:58 AM
the guy had a legit reason to request help and witnesses that the person who stole his stuff was bragging about it

its not like he sold a fungi tunic spent the plat on crap then asked a GM to give him the tunic back

Alkorin
10-26-2011, 08:01 AM
Verant got involved in plenty of casino fraud cases. That's why player-run casinos were eventually banned (and when that didn't work, obsoleted by the in-game casino). They were eating up too much GM time.

Amelinda
10-26-2011, 09:56 AM
policing it just leads to more issues when soandso decides to make up a story about a previously agreed to arrangement, even verant did not get involved in such matters.

No. policing it requires proof.

The staff of p99 has always asked (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1057) that people who play here behave as decent human beings. unfortunately there are many folks out there who don't bother to try to do that in real life. much less in a game.

if you decide to scam someone...hope and pray that person doesn't know how to access screenshots and logs.

Flunklesnarkin
10-26-2011, 10:00 AM
Wow i just group with damme last night... you sure they are all the same person....

might have to add to ignore list just to be safe :\

Atmas
10-26-2011, 10:03 AM
scamming is a legitimate playstyle

When you make a server you have the option to make that true.

MrSparkle001
10-26-2011, 10:06 AM
in the real world retardation has consequences that are not generally relieved by some benevolent entity.

was probably also fun for the guy stealing the other guys stuff, why should we eliminate one guys fun in lieu of anothers?

scamming is a legitimate playstyle just as much as mindlessly killing 20 million mobs, pretty sure genocide and murder are both illegal in the real world as well.

if someone hands over shit to someone else and/or "shares" accounts/items with someone else and that someone else ends up helping themselves it is nobodys fault but the person who allowed for it to happen.

policing it just leads to more issues when soandso decides to make up a story about a previously agreed to arrangement, even verant did not get involved in such matters.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1117/notsureifseriousorjustt.jpg

Kudos to the GMs for "intervening" here.

Leeyuuduu
10-26-2011, 10:13 AM
When I was on classic I died like 20 times trying to get a corpse on my gnome..then petitioned because I was pretty distressed (this was 1999 and I was a 13 year old boy - it was serious business). A GM came and gave me a backpack with a full set of armor and food/drink.
Compassion is classic

And EQ did in fact take action against and ban scammers, at least in the early days. The thought that the same people who invented "Play Nice" policies would sit around and turn a blind eye at people getting scammed is kind of a step back in terms of logic.

WizardEQ
10-26-2011, 10:23 AM
The staff of p99 has always asked that people who play here behave as decent human beings.

Thank you for stating this and upholding "decency" rules as just opposed to "written" rules. The rules are written for those who tend to break them or cause malice and chaos. If everyone adhered to your simple statement, there would be no need for rules. Disputes will always occur, but if mediated quickly usually lead to resolve.

I do remember a scam from early EQ of people invising and standing in between parties making transactions in EC. Back then most of us didn't necessarily look at the person you were trading with, we just made sure the pp and items were what was agreed upon. After hitting TRADE and then not getting said item or pp, it took a while before we figured out what was happening. I know it seems childlike now, but that was a huge scam and IIRC the GMs did nothing about it, even though it was 100% fraud!

Giving your items to a stranger on-line seems like a crapshoot. They could be untrustworthy or simply never sign on again. I'm reluctant to trade with anyone that's not a friend or established in a guild I know, even though I believe most people are trustworthy. This person is extremely lucky to have understanding GMs here!

Pringles
10-26-2011, 11:44 AM
Yay Amelinda!

Slathar
10-26-2011, 11:48 AM
in the real world retardation has consequences that are not generally relieved by some benevolent entity.

was probably also fun for the guy stealing the other guys stuff, why should we eliminate one guys fun in lieu of anothers?

this guy is like 40 years old and a white-power nationalist. look at how much he cares about eq.

dcapotos
10-26-2011, 11:56 AM
I knew something was seriously wrong when I was grouping with a grossly over twinked lv5 mage in crushbone offering to give out free items to all of us (and proclaiming to be drunk at the time). Damme's argument was that it was a legitimate trade from a person who was quitting the game. Now I don't feel bad that I gave back the stuff that was given to me.

dcapotos
10-26-2011, 12:02 PM
this guy is like 40 years old and a white-power nationalist. look at how much he cares about eq.

Funny, his character, Damme, is an erudite...
Is there any validity to these accusations? Damme seemed to be very nice and friendly.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 12:37 PM
pretty sure hes talking about me, thats the standard mantra thrown about by the illinformed sensationalist retards on account of the fact that our guild shuns teenieboppers and openly discuss modern issues regardless of whether or not they are politically correct on our message boards.

guess i better go say sieg heil and eat some sausage now and what not.


in any case amelinda pvp servers and the traditional rules of such are different than blue servers, let me pose a hypothetical since it will eventually happen as it happened thousands of times on both rz and sz (probably tz and vz also if they had coin loot).

player a sets up a trade for say a manastone with player b, player b agrees to pay 100k for the manastone, upon placing the cash in the trade window several of player A's wizard friends gate in and blast player b thereby making off with the 100k

would you as a guide get involved with player B's petition if there is one and if so to what extent?


what about player a does not like player c who is a wizard, player a sees player c looking to buy something and has someone pretend he has one for sale and then waits at the nearest port to gank the wizard, turns out the wizard already has money on him for the item. are you involved or not and to what extent?


what about when guild a and guild b are fighting over fear, there are several mobs dead on the ground and due to the fighting looting rights have become open to them, a player from group a loots a chestpiece off of a mob that group b killed during the fighting. are you involved in that?


these among other issues are standard daily occurances on a pvp server, seeing this thread it seems like is as good a time as ever to determine what will be interfered with and what will be left alone.

Asher
10-26-2011, 12:38 PM
Thank you everyone that was around when this all went down. Amelinda is such a warm individual who took the time to listen and handle the situation. I did receive my gear and money back via GM. Puts me on high alert as to what kind of friends I make and who i do and do not trust. See you all in game.

~ Dak

Wow, I thought the official GM policy of people getting ripped off was "it is too bad you were stupid".

I am glad to see that they took care of this for you.

Asher

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 01:18 PM
Sorry Darwoth, maybe you should find another set of servers to play on if you dont like the rules or community culture here.

Respect your hosts wishes, or move on to grief and scam elsewhere.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 01:34 PM
pretty sure all i did was ask some simple and straight forward questions about typical pvp server scenarios and what will or wont be allowed on the pvp server so i am familiar with "the hosts wishes", fail to see how you using this thread as a springboard for your latest drivel spewing escapade has anything to do with well.... anything.

would be like you enrolling in a college course and asking a question then me running up to the nearest open window and yelling "hey! you suck!" before darting back into the shadows.

yeah, pretty stupid. a pox upon you.

EverquestJunkie
10-26-2011, 01:40 PM
pretty sure all i did was ask some simple and straight forward questions about typical pvp server scenarios and what will or wont be allowed on the pvp server so i am familiar with "the hosts wishes", fail to see how you using this thread as a springboard for your latest drivel spewing escapade has anything to do with well.... anything.

would be like you enrolling in a college course and asking a question then me running up to the nearest open window and yelling "hey! you suck!" before darting back into the shadows.

yeah, pretty stupid. a pox upon you.

Hate to assume but im 80% sure your the scammer we are talking about here

Not to mention the big picture your clearly dancing around is THIS WAS NOT DONE ON A PVP SERVER

Darwoth = Darthness? Hmm

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 01:47 PM
yeah because clearly i waste my time playing on much less ripping folks off on a blue server, guess you have succeeded in the whole making an "ass of u and me" thing, sans me of course.

Slathar
10-26-2011, 02:02 PM
pretty sure hes talking about me, thats the standard mantra thrown about by the illinformed sensationalist retards on account of the fact that our guild shuns teenieboppers and openly discuss modern issues regardless of whether or not they are politically correct on our message boards.

guess i better go say sieg heil and eat some sausage now and what not.


in any case amelinda pvp servers and the traditional rules of such are different than blue servers, let me pose a hypothetical since it will eventually happen as it happened thousands of times on both rz and sz (probably tz and vz also if they had coin loot).

player a sets up a trade for say a manastone with player b, player b agrees to pay 100k for the manastone, upon placing the cash in the trade window several of player A's wizard friends gate in and blast player b thereby making off with the 100k

would you as a guide get involved with player B's petition if there is one and if so to what extent?


what about player a does not like player c who is a wizard, player a sees player c looking to buy something and has someone pretend he has one for sale and then waits at the nearest port to gank the wizard, turns out the wizard already has money on him for the item. are you involved or not and to what extent?


what about when guild a and guild b are fighting over fear, there are several mobs dead on the ground and due to the fighting looting rights have become open to them, a player from group a loots a chestpiece off of a mob that group b killed during the fighting. are you involved in that?


these among other issues are standard daily occurances on a pvp server, seeing this thread it seems like is as good a time as ever to determine what will be interfered with and what will be left alone.

modern issues hahahaha, please tell us more about how enlightened your guild is

i repeat: this guy is a white supremicist

Samoht
10-26-2011, 02:03 PM
guess you have succeeded in the whole making an "ass of u and me" thing, sans me of course.

nah, he didn't have to, you did a pretty good job of that, yourself

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 02:05 PM
nah, he didn't have to, you did a pretty good job of that, yourself

what did i make an assumption on? or are you simply another in the already long line of those who cant bother to think before they speak? please use some creativity and or originality when trying to tell me how much i suck etc.

oblexsis
10-26-2011, 02:09 PM
Just get it over with and ban this piece of shits Ip adress for good. We don't really need trash in our community .

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 02:09 PM
modern issues hahahaha, please tell us more about how enlightened your guild is

i repeat: this guy is a white supremicist


Interesting, well it does match up with his lifetime of gaming solely to grief. Has to be something wrong with that bigger picture.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 02:11 PM
modern issues hahahaha, please tell us more about how enlightened your guild is

i repeat: this guy is a white supremicist

i openly dislike blacks and illegal mexican invaders, that does not make one a white supremacist (nothing against white supremacists mind you), as i find pretty much every other group to be acceptable including mexicans that stay in mexico.

feel free to do as much grandstanding as you like on how i am an eeeeeviiil raaacist and what have you, but at least get your labeling right in your zeal to demonize me with things that have no bearing on the conversation.

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 02:15 PM
i openly dislike blacks and illegal mexican invaders, that does not make one a white supremacist (nothing against white supremacists mind you), as i find pretty much every other group to be acceptable including mexicans that stay in mexico.

feel free to do as much grandstanding as you like on how i am an eeeeeviiil raaacist and what have you, but at least get your labeling right in your zeal to demonize me with things that have no bearing on the conversation.

Would you say there is a connection between these views and your ingame "persona" as a rabid and self proclaimed griefer that "thinks outside the box" for new ways to grief? Im honestly curious.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 02:18 PM
nope, has to do with growing up in a peaceful town that was turned into a warzone by said groups to where one could not leave the house unarmed unless they wanted to be killed before having their wife gangraped.

and hundreds of real world examples over 20+ years that you would have to see to believe, however my personal beliefs are personal and i dont bother trying to push them on others, as such that will be the end of the conversation on these boards about it from me as here or in game is not the place for such a touchy conversation.

Atmas
10-26-2011, 02:21 PM
i openly dislike blacks and illegal mexican invaders, that does not make one a white supremacist (nothing against white supremacists mind you), as i find pretty much every other group to be acceptable including mexicans that stay in mexico.

feel free to do as much grandstanding as you like on how i am an eeeeeviiil raaacist and what have you, but at least get your labeling right in your zeal to demonize me with things that have no bearing on the conversation.

You've gone from sounding like the server would be a better place without you to the world would be a better place without you.

Aside from that though, the thing that's irritating is I like PvP for the fun and competition aspect. You try to tie it in with your psychological disfunction to need to hurt and grief people and just make it all look bad.

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 02:21 PM
nope, has to do with growing up in a peaceful town that was turned into a warzone by said groups to where one could not leave the house unarmed unless they wanted to be killed before having their wife gangraped.

and hundreds of real world examples over 20+ years that you would have to see to believe, however my personal beliefs are personal and i dont bother trying to push them on others, as such that will be the end of the conversation on these boards about it from me as here or in game is not the place for such a touchy conversation.

You are getting too old for this Darwoth... everyone outgrows their facist phase by 17 or so....

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 02:25 PM
You've gone from sounding like the server would be a better place without you to the world would be a better place without you.

Aside from that though, the thing that's irritating is I like PvP for the fun and competition aspect. You try to tie it in with your psychological disfunction to need to hurt and grief people and just make it all look bad.

who are you again? what game have you ever played with me?

none?

just because a few retards harp about what a vile soul i am doesn't quite make it true, every community i have been a part of has been more sad than glad when i finally moved on to greener pastures.

Diggles
10-26-2011, 02:29 PM
Move this thread to rnf please

Atmas
10-26-2011, 02:59 PM
To the OP, glad you got your stuff back.

Xarn
10-26-2011, 03:00 PM
It always amazed me how fast threads can derail and turn into arguments about politics/religion/ethics/morals/etc.. just pick one.

Sithel1988
10-26-2011, 03:21 PM
lolol, everytime a druid or wizard ports my warrior or rogue. i cant help but think. "whats stopping them from porting me in the middle of nowhere lmao. or if you consent for someone to drag your corpse. "whats stopping them from dragging somewhere hidin" lol

Dfn
10-26-2011, 03:32 PM
lolol, everytime a druid or wizard ports my warrior or rogue. i cant help but think. "whats stopping them from porting me in the middle of nowhere lmao. or if you consent for someone to drag your corpse. "whats stopping them from dragging somewhere hidin" lol

Don't worry. Amelinda will come hold your hand and make everything better. It's not your fault for doing something stupid. Even if you have viable, failproof remedies to your dilemma - if you take a risky shortcut and anything bad happens, it isn't your fault and your hand will be held.

Extunarian
10-26-2011, 03:36 PM
every community i have been a part of has been more sad than glad when i finally moved on to greener pastures.

for sure you sound like a great guy who's just misunderstood due to the kleptomania

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 03:43 PM
10 years ago in game thieves, random pks or folks using creative means to kill others were respected as a viable and valued playstyle and the community as a whole enjoyed having them around as they made things interesting and gave a much needed universal "bad guy" to rally against.

increasingly since then with the fischer price generation of gaming all of the above is "griefing", this pathetic mentality carries over to basically every facet of life where everybody gets a trophy even if they finish last out of a half million people, it doesnt matter if you abymsally failed as long as you say you "did your best" instead of striving to do better and not fail and being a dumbass is everyone elses fault but yours.

if one wonders why "griefing" (or what losers decry as griefing and normal people consider gameplay) is such an enjoyable playstyle for many they need look no further than this thread.

Atmas
10-26-2011, 03:57 PM
who are you again? what game have you ever played with me?

none?

just because a few retards harp about what a vile soul i am doesn't quite make it true, every community i have been a part of has been more sad than glad when i finally moved on to greener pastures.

Guy who openly discusses his hate for people he has never met based on their ethnicity talks about he is vilified by people who don't really know him...classic, but not the good kind.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 04:02 PM
Guy who openly discusses his hate for people he has never met based on their ethnicity talks about he is vilified by people who don't really know him...classic, but not the good kind.


if you want to revive that part of the conversation and have a fool made of you your welcome to do so on our boards. i wont entertain your cliche rebuttals here.

guessing i wont be seeing you stop on by though.

Crug
10-26-2011, 04:08 PM
I am glad the OP got his gear back, and yet again I am astounded at how great the guides and GMs are on this server.

Amelinda especially, she helped my buddy when he first started and was confused get out of a pond in Felwithe haha.

Atmas
10-26-2011, 04:12 PM
if you want to revive that part of the conversation and have a fool made of you your welcome to do so on our boards. i wont entertain your cliche rebuttals here.

guessing i wont be seeing you stop on by though.

Guy who doesn't understand the difference between "your" and "you're" tosses around the word fool. You're good at this. Labeling something as cliche doesn't make it less true. Go ahead and make a post in RnF, as if that is something intimidating, this thread has been run far enough into the dirt.

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 04:27 PM
10 years ago in game thieves, random pks or folks using creative means to kill others were respected as a viable and valued playstyle and the community as a whole enjoyed having them around as they made things interesting and gave a much needed universal "bad guy" to rally against.


So delusional. What you and your kind did and do is break down a game, destroy its systems until nothing is left. And then like a plauge you move onto the next one to infect and consume.

Like Secrets said in her post: 35 percent are not interested in playing the game, but just griefing other people off of it.

Dfn
10-26-2011, 04:31 PM
So delusional. What you and your kind did and do is break down a game, destroy its systems until nothing is left. And then like a plauge you move onto the next one to infect and consume.

Like Secrets said in her post: 35 percent are not interested in playing the game, but just griefing other people off of it.

Sounds like a reliable statistic to be sure. I wonder what methodology was used?

Random PKs gave RZ flavor and excitement. Please refrain from commenting on something you were not a part of.

Atmas
10-26-2011, 04:38 PM
Sounds like a reliable statistic to be sure.

Random PKs gave RZ flavor and excitement. Please refrain from commenting on something you were not a part of.

Palemoon is referencing a comment posted by Secrets about one of the boxes that Secrets ran. Were you a part of that box?

Dfn
10-26-2011, 04:43 PM
Palemoon is referencing a comment posted by Secrets about one of the boxes that Secrets ran. Were you a part of that box?

Do I need to be a part of that box to question the methodology used in obtaining that statistic? Do I need to be a part of that box to question the reliability of that statistic in relation to P99 even if the methodology proves to be good?

Atmas
10-26-2011, 04:47 PM
Do I need to be a part of that box to question the methodology used in obtaining that statistic?


Please refrain from commenting on something you were not a part of.

I don't know boss, you tell me.

Atmas
10-26-2011, 04:50 PM
In any case, random pvp is fun and doesn't equate to griefing.

Dfn
10-26-2011, 04:54 PM
I don't need to be a part of the study to question the methodology used in quantitative research. If I'm providing historical evidence and speaking from the position of having been directly involved in said events... then I have better been involved in those events. It's a matter of authority.

It's a really, really, really tough distinction to make.

Palemoon
10-26-2011, 05:10 PM
Dfn = Darwoth

Atmas
10-26-2011, 05:16 PM
It's a really, really, really tough distinction to make.

You would think that until viewing your interpretation as to the significant point of the post. As if would matter whether or not that percentage was achieved with scientific methodology. That percentage of the population exists and frankly the person running that box is in much more of an authority to throw out an anecdotal estimate than you are to brush it off with a sarcastic "Sounds like a reliable statistic to be sure."

Softcore PK
10-26-2011, 05:19 PM
How can anyone defend the people who scam others out of items? :/

Softcore PK
10-26-2011, 05:20 PM
You would think that until viewing your interpretation as to the significant point of the post. As if would matter whether or not that percentage was achieved with scientific methodology. That percentage of the population exists and frankly the person running that box is in much more of an authority to throw out an anecdotal estimate than you are to brush it off with a sarcastic "Sounds like a reliable statistic to be sure."

What is this thread even about anymore? :P

Awwalike
10-26-2011, 05:23 PM
he not good friend OP.

Amelinda
10-26-2011, 06:27 PM
...in any case amelinda...let me pose a hypothetical since it will eventually happen as it happened thousands of times on both rz and sz (probably tz and vz also if they had coin loot).

player a sets up a trade for say a manastone with player b, player b agrees to pay 100k for the manastone, upon placing the cash in the trade window several of player A's wizard friends gate in and blast player b thereby making off with the 100k

would you as a guide get involved with player B's petition if there is one and if so to what extent?........

Depends on too many things to list but mostly on this:
what ruleset is on the server. here it's play nice and this is how rogean wants things run. I toe that line as close as i can at all times.

if i am a guide on a server that allows this and someone petitions about it then they are likely to get little more than sympathy. part of guide work is to enforce rules. even if i don't personally agree with them or whatever.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 06:33 PM
Depends on too many things to list but mostly on this:
what ruleset is on the server. here it's play nice and this is how rogean wants things run. I toe that line as close as i can at all times.

if i am a guide on a server that allows this and someone petitions about it then they are likely to get little more than sympathy. part of guide work is to enforce rules. even if i don't personally agree with them or whatever.


fair enough, thanks for the response.

Autotune
10-26-2011, 06:34 PM
Move this thread to rnf please

or move Darwoth to RnF please

Threepoint
10-26-2011, 06:38 PM
Ban this motherfucker imo

Shrubwise
10-26-2011, 06:52 PM
you should not have had anything returned and GMs should not be protecting people from their own bad decisions, hopefully there will not be this kind of interference on red where i kill some guy with a bunch of money and he cries loud enough and has someone come save the day.

in the real world retardation has consequences that are not generally relieved by some benevolent entity.

scamming is a legitimate playstyle just as much as mindlessly killing 20 million mobs, pretty sure genocide and murder are both illegal in the real world as well.

guess i better go say sieg heil and eat some sausage now and what not.

what did i make an assumption on? or are you simply another in the already long line of those who cant bother to think before they speak? please use some creativity and or originality when trying to tell me how much i suck etc.

i openly dislike blacks and illegal mexican invaders, that does not make one a white supremacist (nothing against white supremacists mind you), as i find pretty much every other group to be acceptable including mexicans that stay in mexico.

And my personal favorite:

yeah because clearly i waste my time playing on much less ripping folks off on a blue server, guess you have succeeded in the whole making an "ass of u and me" thing, sans me of course.

Flunklesnarkin
10-26-2011, 07:32 PM
10 years ago in game thieves, random pks or folks using creative means to kill others were respected as a viable and valued playstyle and the community as a whole enjoyed having them around as they made things interesting and gave a much needed universal "bad guy" to rally against.

increasingly since then with the fischer price generation of gaming all of the above is "griefing", this pathetic mentality carries over to basically every facet of life where everybody gets a trophy even if they finish last out of a half million people, it doesnt matter if you abymsally failed as long as you say you "did your best" instead of striving to do better and not fail and being a dumbass is everyone elses fault but yours.

if one wonders why "griefing" (or what losers decry as griefing and normal people consider gameplay) is such an enjoyable playstyle for many they need look no further than this thread.

I figured thats what the pvp server was for... if you want to run around and never feel safe play on that server...

I was gonna try it out for fun...

but pk or ripping somebody off on a regular server doesn't seem right.

I'm not against pvp or special rule sets servers (heck id even try a ffa player corpse loot server if they had one)... just expecting every server to have the same rules is a bit crazy.

"Everybody has to play my way or its wrong" mentality is dumb

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 07:47 PM
i didn't, was primarily concerned with the upcoming red server

ScaryBadAssholes
10-26-2011, 09:31 PM
Glad you got your stuff back. I'll never let anything like this happen -- you're always safe when you're with me.

Add me to friends.

eisley
10-26-2011, 10:44 PM
This person also attempted to steal my items and failed. I asked in guildchat if someone would log me on for 30 seconds while I rezzed it, and they bagged my items and went to go meet an accomplice in EC to take the items, however they got booted when they gated since I changed the password. I logged on and was greeted with tells from the person accomplice asking where to meet to pick up the items. The person actually apologized to me, claimed it was their first time trying something like this, said they felt sick to their stomach over it, and offered to give me their items in return.
I declined.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9620/aliaga.png

Not making excuses or anything, but just letting people know.

Slathar
10-26-2011, 11:19 PM
i openly dislike blacks and illegal mexican invaders, that does not make one a white supremacist (nothing against white supremacists mind you), as i find pretty much every other group to be acceptable including mexicans that stay in mexico.

feel free to do as much grandstanding as you like on how i am an eeeeeviiil raaacist and what have you, but at least get your labeling right in your zeal to demonize me with things that have no bearing on the conversation.

tell us more about how bad things are as a white man and how the black man is keeping you down

you sound really intelligent

Tux
10-26-2011, 11:28 PM
10 years ago griefing was fun


Regardless of what you may see in the mirror, to the rest of the world you're a grown man egging houses.

Darwoth
10-26-2011, 11:56 PM
Regardless of what you may see in the mirror, to the rest of the world you're a grown man egging houses.

apparently you have mistaken me for someone that gives a shit what "the rest of the world" that you clearly speak for thinks.

and if your going to quote me try not to put words in my mouth because you lack anything of substance to say.

fishingme
10-27-2011, 12:12 AM
apparently you have mistaken me for someone that gives a shit what "the rest of the world" that you clearly speak for thinks.

and if your going to quote me try not to put words in my mouth because you lack anything of substance to say.

clearly you give a shit considering all of your replies. Try again.

Darwoth
10-27-2011, 12:47 AM
clearly

Someguy1983
10-27-2011, 07:31 AM
He can argue it was his fault for trusting the guy or whatever, but rules are rules...no one gives a fuck about your reasons why he shouldn't have done it.

mostbitter
10-27-2011, 07:42 AM
you'd think that after twelve years of don't share your account info don't trust people with your stuff warnings built into games that people would be able to use their brains but i guess thats what big daddy server staff is for? Wouldn't expect much else from a carebear server though :(

arsenalpow
10-27-2011, 07:59 AM
Darwoth goes so hard (http://www.scarybadguys.com)

gnomishfirework
10-27-2011, 07:59 AM
you'd think that after twelve years of don't share your account info don't trust people with your stuff warnings built into games that people would be able to use their brains but i guess thats what big daddy server staff is for? Wouldn't expect much else from a carebear server though :(

I shared account info many times and never had a problem with being ripped off. It's just knowing who can be trusted. You are always taking a risk I guess, but I've never felt that way with the people i shared with.

Amelinda
10-27-2011, 08:06 AM
Don't worry. Amelinda will come hold your hand and make everything better. It's not your fault for doing something stupid. Even if you have viable, failproof remedies to your dilemma - if you take a risky shortcut and anything bad happens, it isn't your fault and your hand will be held.

I am NOT a hand-holder. I uphold the rules of the server. I don't have enough time to hold anyone's hand.

:)

Amelinda
10-27-2011, 08:12 AM
I am glad the OP got his gear back, and yet again I am astounded at how great the guides and GMs are on this server.

Amelinda especially, she helped my buddy when he first started and was confused get out of a pond in Felwithe haha.


Thank you :)

Levon
10-27-2011, 09:32 PM
I used to do little scams and play tricks on people on live back in '99-'00 but it was because I was a rogue and I was roleplaying. I did the invis between traders trick. I used to drop a copper piece in the pvp area of EFP (this was a blue server) and massacre noobs who would wander in to pick it up. I never stole someone's items while transferring and I never looted someone's corpse when they consented me for draggin but I didn't do that only because it would have really prevented me from ever getting groups (not a good thing for a rogue).

That all being said scamming people is against the rules on this server and I think it should stay that way because there's not a big enough number of expendable players with our low population.