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Jedite2K11
10-23-2011, 08:14 PM
I played classic, as some of you know...back in 99, got to a 50 Rogue before Kunark...was hell getting there. Anyway to the point...how do you PL in EQ, specificially on this server. I know you can get someone to give you a very powerful damage shield and just go crazy with any class...is there any other way that is generally accepted as extremely efficient? I just want to know what I can do to help people Power Level, or what I can ask for to help me get up to 50-60 range faster. Currently leveling my Iksar Monk to 50 to help get my Dwarven Rogue some good starting gear...but the task is daunting and I've had someone give me a high level thorns once or twice, and that makes thing atleast bearable...although not extremely fast.

So whats the generally agreed upon way to PL a char?

Snaggles
10-23-2011, 08:30 PM
I don't really understand the question.

If you're referring the best way to get your monk levels quickly asking for a DS/Regen is the way to go. Best to fight stuff that doesn't run and if possible get the buffs in a zone that has a nice exp modifier. Later haste/regen for you and slows for the mob in a duo-situation is the best way to "Powerlevel" a melee as the effect of thorns doesn't scale great.

Of course with a duo there are better ways to PL someone. Monks can kill it to like 1% and FD for the n00b to get the kill. Snare/fear while you beat on it. Kill it to almost dead and zone. High level player aggros the mob with a high taunt spell and uses a DS, then you hit it once and when the mob dies you get the exp (as DS dmg doesn't count towards the kill).

Long duration buffs will make your earlier begging levels easier. Regen lasts longer than thorns, Natureskin from a high level druid lasts over an hr and has a little regen, etc.

Estu
10-24-2011, 12:00 AM
As Snaggles said, the fastest way to get "PLed" as a newbie for free is to get buffs from druids, shamans, and magicians. The most important ones are SoW, regen, and a damage shield.

The fastest way to get PLed, period, is to pay a high level monk or necromancer. They get the mob down to almost dead and fleeing, then feign death and you finish it off. Huge EXP very quickly. PLing in this manner is sold at a rate of about 1,000 platinum an hour. This is at low levels - at high levels, what people sometimes do is pay to be grouped with a powerful max-level soloer (generally a magician or a necromancer) and go afk while the other person kills mobs. The person needs to be high enough to be able to EXP in a group with the other person, but at high levels this can be a high level difference (37 with a 50, or 40 with a 60).

Awwalike
10-24-2011, 12:23 AM
you definitely did not play a character to 50 if you don't know how PL works.

skulldudes
10-24-2011, 12:28 AM
i think it's been said to you before, but a monk is a terrible choice of character to try to build a nest egg on.

Estu
10-24-2011, 01:07 AM
i think it's been said to you before, but a monk is a terrible choice of character to try to build a nest egg on.

If you get your monk to a high level by just grinding, then it is an EXCELLENT choice to build a nest egg on, since you can make 1-2k an hour power leveling, being one of the best power leveling classes in the game.

skulldudes
10-24-2011, 01:37 AM
that's true. i missed the part where he mentioned he actually intended to get to 50. but he'll be scraping for a long while.

it just seems like a massive waste of time to play one character to 50 just so you can twink another character that you really want to play, more so when the former character is slightly gear-intensive (weapons, anyway).

i mean, get a cheap ass PSD and a suit of banded and a rogue will group just fine.

Glam
10-24-2011, 03:51 AM
Sk have FD to and can easy powerlvl to.

Have done it alot with my sk and druid.......giving my son buff with druid then logging in my sk and just FD and he finish mobs.......easy exp

Jedite2K11
10-24-2011, 07:27 AM
Thanks for the replies, I don't mind wasting some time to get the Monk to a higher level, I actually dinged 12 tonight with some help from a Druid friend...wasn't bad at all...and it's starting to open up as a decent class now with a faster cooldown move at 10 and block at 12...it's not so terrible.

I was saying I wanted to eventually get my Rogue up, cause my first character in a 3D MUD/MMO was a Rogue on Innoruuk...I had played Legends of Kesmai and Ultima Online prior to my guild moving to EQ...so my very first MMO character was indeed a Halfling Rogue, was just trying to make him over again (Cept Dwarf this time) and relive the old days without so much pain during the leveling process...

Playing a Monk first is less torture for me, well it was rough to start..but now at 12, it's not so bad...I figure I can handle it now from here with alittle help here and there...I mean if any of you guys out there want to help out an old head from so long ago by twinking out my new Rogue to make the leveling process less painful and drab feel free to let me know. I don't intend to play the Monk forever unless I fall in love with it in 50+ game...which me being such a fan of backstab and daggers...prolly won't happen. I'm just trying to set myself up with a bit of a headstart...sure I coulda done a Mage or Necro I guess and been even better at grinding and leveling myself...but I wanted to actually be able to be in the thick of things in melee, and help a group...yes Rogue would have been able to do that, but not till atleast 15-20 and having a decent piercer.

Yanno, I might actually be totally wrong...this server is alot different than oldschool 1999 EQ Live...I mighta been able to roll a Rogue to start with and actually find a group, but my experience back when I was 15 years old or so was NO ONE ever grouped with a Rogue, EVER...and soloing was pure hell...getting to 50 was a long and ardous journey where I finally got an SBD in my mid 30s....and then finally I think I landed a Bone Razor toward the end of my career...it was no cake walk, it sucked...and took so much of my time...I figured coming here I'd try something slightly different with the Monk being as he's less reliant on a mainhand weapon...so that's my story. :)

I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY MY ROGUE, I just dont wanna go through that whole process of pure torture sitting in zones for hours LFG...and never ever getting a group even if I sat there for 2+ hours...without good twink gear I would have to suffer all over again. My Rogue in retail couldn't solo to save an ants life let alone his own. When I finally got an SBD and some good armor in my 30s it got a bit easier, and I started to find a group more often, it got easier in the late 40s...but still, getting to 30 purely solo as a Rogue in 1999...I don't ever wanna do it again.

Radiskull
10-24-2011, 08:29 AM
it just seems like a massive waste of time to play one character to 50 just so you can twink another character that you really want to play, more so when the former character is slightly gear-intensive (weapons, anyway).

My first character on the server was a mage, because I knew I wanted to play a warrior. It makes sense to want your character, especially one that is very gear dependant, to have better then cloth armor or even banded, for the first 15-20 levels. Leveling a character like a rogue is infinitely more fun when you're doing it with better then average gear.

Play the farming toon till 50ish, when you have the money to buy the gear for your rogue, then play the rogue till 60. You now have a toon you can farm money with and a toon you can raid with.

I'm not sure I'd choose monk as the farming class. I think at this stage of the game, enchanter or necro is a better option. Both fun classes to play, both can farm named or seafuries to make a solid amount of plat regularly. Plus the whole switching from one melee dps class to another melee dps class seems a bit redundant.

Jedite2K11
10-24-2011, 09:23 AM
I was thinking Monk mainly for the ability to help others PL with FD...although I assume Mage would make just as good of a PLer as a Monk at endgame. I might roll a Mage at some point to be honest...I just didnt wanna bother with medding all the damn time. =/

Estu
10-24-2011, 09:53 AM
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Structures_Fall
10-24-2011, 10:12 AM
Stop overthinking this shit. It's NOT that complicated.

I started a rogue as my first character here, atleast 6 months after server had already been running. Leveling to 50 as an untwinked rogue isn't that shitty. Fuck sitting around LFG, start your own groups. If you really want to play a rogue, stop pussyfooting around it.

pickled_heretic
10-24-2011, 10:18 AM
the oddsmakers estimate the chance of OP burning out before he even gets his monk to lvl 50 at 97.6%.

if you want to play a rogue, play a rogue. did i mention that you should play a rogue? you should play a rogue if you want to play a rogue.

actually from the sound of the complaining i'd say the chance is closer to 99.7%. CLASSIC EXP IS SLOW. doesn't matter if you're twinked or naked.



I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY MY ROGUE, I just dont wanna go through that whole process of pure torture sitting in zones for hours LFG...and never ever getting a group even if I sat there for 2+ hours...without good twink gear I would have to suffer all over again. My Rogue in retail couldn't solo to save an ants life let alone his own. When I finally got an SBD and some good armor in my 30s it got a bit easier, and I started to find a group more often, it got easier in the late 40s...but still, getting to 30 purely solo as a Rogue in 1999...I don't ever wanna do it again.

i want to add: you are going to be in the exact same boat with your monk as you will be for your rogue. neither of these classes can really solo at all past level 20 untwinked; monks can only do it effectively with some serious twinkage.

skulldudes
10-24-2011, 10:40 AM
burn out is another good point.

i have pretty much the best ranger weapon in the game for this era twinked on to my ranger, and soloing still bites my ass even at a lowly 23.

Snaggles
10-24-2011, 08:48 PM
You made a monk for the intent of PL later? Isn't that like a destitute person becoming a philanthropist? O_o

Look, a monk can indeed PL. Fact is tho a Sham or Druid does so better in 95% of the levels. They are also faster to level with less gear dependance. A Mage is a HORRIBLE power leveler for end-game and one of the best for the low/mid range; basically a druid without healing.

I love monks and would play one for the class. PL is an afterthought though. Any class can PL (kill over half health), just some are better. Play a rogue if you like the class, just assume soloing will be Hell and your budget blown on a good piercer immediately above all else.