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Ashimar

10-23-2011, 08:01 PM

So i was hoping some of you would post some videos of some good rock music you've been listening to latley, if any of you like it. On the hunt for some new songs to go on my mp3 player...

what i like

Alter Bridge, Nirvana, SafetySuit, System of a Down, Chevelle, Alice in Chains, Audioslave, ect ect

Awwalike

10-23-2011, 09:30 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDNaVtTzPvg

you are welcome.

Harrison

10-23-2011, 09:56 PM

Should be banned for posting garbage IMO

Awwalike

10-23-2011, 10:04 PM

Should be banned for posting garbage IMO

who me?

SearyxTZ

10-23-2011, 10:47 PM

I agree with Harrison!

"Rock" is pretty broad, but here we go off the top of my head:

Pearl Jam - Porch (live). The energy in this performance is unreal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckRsIy4Zqgo

KMFDM - Ultra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3hsUpspKhc

Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijk4j-r7qPA&ob=av2e

Soundgarden - Rusty Cage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqP3wj2x14

Bush - Sound of Winter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcbeMR8qLQ8

Faith No More - Epic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jshq3q5itbI

Helmet - Milktoast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeGMReAeS4c

Deftones - Elite (only song/album by them thats worth a shit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpv_7DdA8cY

Knuckle

10-23-2011, 11:04 PM

loopholbrook

10-23-2011, 11:07 PM

Most of these songs are pretty different than each other, but in my opinion all have a blues and/or psychedelic influence. Might not like them, but I sure as hell do, so enjoy.

Queens of the Stone Age - Better Living Through Chemistry (Rock/Psychedelic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1KvhfSjhWg

The Black Angels - First Vietnam War (Psychedelic/Blues)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzRUMUZ3Dhk

Clutch - Electric Worry (Rock/Blues)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx6FV2qR2TY

Primus - Frizzle Fry (Primus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb4Kc5JPxHE

Daler Mehndi - Tunak Tunak Tun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bAN7Ts0xBo

The Kills - Satellite (Indie/Blues)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hniPVDz12bc

TV on the Radio - Wolf Like Me (Indie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1-xRk6llh4&ob=av2e

MrSparkle001

10-23-2011, 11:25 PM

Killua

10-24-2011, 12:24 AM

Most of what I listen to wouldn't fit with the stuff you like (I believe), back in the 90s-early 2000s I used to listen to Rock and Alternative radio (cause it was good back then) but now I've shifted more to Electronic, and some really out-there Alternative/Indie stuff.

But the new Foo Fighters album "Wasting Light" is pretty good. I'd also like to suggest a band called "Solid Gold", their album is called "Bodies of Water", although they're considered Electro-Pop they're worth checking out.

Foo Fighters - Walk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PkcfQtibmU&t=1m00s) (Link is set up to start @ 1min, where the music starts)

Solid Gold - Bible Thumper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQq3ZQER7_w)

baub

10-24-2011, 01:14 AM

Have to agree the new Foo Fighters is quite good!

Because you listed SoaD:

Scars on Broadway
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he8Jo2WLkIk&feature=related

EnnoiaII

10-24-2011, 01:56 AM

Steel Panther - Death To All But Metal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfB7vF7nCdA&ob=av2e

Steel Panther - Community Property
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzUPG8olnO0

Steel Panther - Fat Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x67jtMPfdTw

hilariously awesome.

You win this thread. Everything else posted in here is pussy music.

Cannibal Corpse- Fucked With A Knife (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoKogh34UIo)

Slayer- Disciple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0mQ25ezq4)

Darkthrone w/ Burzum- Vatican in Flames (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tei9Xix1j-o)

Immortal- One By One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NE2jZTtdTc&feature=related)

Pantera- Cowboys From Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97OkCXwotE&ob=av3e)

Grahm

10-24-2011, 02:16 AM

You win this thread. Everything else posted in here is pussy music.

Cannibal Corpse- Fucked With A Knife (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoKogh34UIo)

Slayer- Disciple (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS0mQ25ezq4)

Darkthrone w/ Burzum- Vatican in Flames (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tei9Xix1j-o)

Immortal- One By One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NE2jZTtdTc&feature=related)

Pantera- Cowboys From Hell (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97OkCXwotE&ob=av3e)

You are on the right track. Pantera/Metallica is what i was raised on.

Now I listen to mostly Post-Hardcore songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXlIaBO80AU
Asking alexandria-Morte et Dabo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LyEIYXi23w&feature=related
From autumn to Ashes-Reflections

SearyxTZ

10-24-2011, 02:35 AM

Diggles

10-24-2011, 02:58 AM

metallica fans are pretty chill until you mention anything about megadeth and then they go into a frothing rampage of stupidity and uneducated opinions.

Valius

10-24-2011, 03:09 AM

Oh, Sleeper - "Endseekers" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqXjCwkFI0 \m/

loopholbrook

10-24-2011, 03:31 AM

metallica fans are pretty chill until you mention anything about megadeth and then they go into a frothing rampage of stupidity and uneducated opinions.

Everyone know Slayer>Megadeth=Exodus>Anthrax>Testament>Metallica. Even the Metallica fans know that.

skulldudes

10-24-2011, 03:42 AM

op you can't actually enjoy alter bridge

EnnoiaII

10-24-2011, 04:16 AM

He asked for rock and alternative, not metal.

But if we're listing metal anyway...

Death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-as4LausEok

OPETH
The Moor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpkHg8p64Yc
Demon of the Fall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrBrH5PZtcc
In The Mist She Was Standing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H18p6GEaRIM

At The Gates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJme5uubkyQ

Gojira (french death metal! with protect-the-environment themes! weirdest combination ever, but I love them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5By-5mLHk4

Isis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A87P1eXFqp8

Amorphis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugUXDwBswWI

Children of Bodom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8F3t-F_grc

Kalmah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz2irxsZKH0

Mastodon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Su1YXQYek

seen a lot of these bands live. Can't think of a bad show among them

saw Slayer Metallica and Pantera in the late 90's when I was like 14.

Metallica/Pantera fans are pretty laid back imo but some Slayer fans are fucking idiots who make it a point to try to hurt people during a show.

I saw Slayer not 5 feet from the stage and the pits were pretty relaxed. I fucking love Slayer, and I stay out of pits BECAUSE I don't want to end up hurting someone.

Speaking of people getting hurt at concerts...I've noticed it's usually the people who AREN'T die-hard metal fans who are the ones trying to hurt everyone...you know, the people who like poser fag hot topic metal like Killswitch Engage or Avenged Sevenfold...garbage like that. Real Slayer fans are too busy worshiping Kerry King's guitar solos to bother with pits.

Edit: I fucking hate you for getting to see Children of Bodom live...I've been trying to get to their shows around here for years and I always end up being fucking busy. Everything you linked is +1.

Loke

10-24-2011, 04:32 AM

As far as I'm concerned, the last "rock" band was the Strokes - and they haven't been much of a rock band since "room on fire." That being said, their first two albums are sick as shit.

With a few exceptions (The Black Keys are one off the top of my head), rock these days is pretty weak. Music always goes in phases - aside from punk, rock kind of died down during the 80s, picked back up again in the 90s, and now has died down again. Hopefully something will spark a renewed interest in rock, but as it is, everyone right now seems to be enamored with the production aspect which leads to more use of mixers and computers as opposed to actual instruments... everyone wants to be a DJ/Producer.

I used to always chuckle at how James Murphy nails it on "Losing my edge"...
I hear you're buying a synthesizer and an arpeggiator and are throwing your computer out the window because you want to make something real. You want to make a Yaz record.

I hear that you and your band have sold your guitars and bought turntables.
I hear that you and your band have sold your turntables and bought guitars.

Music always gravitates in certain directions and right now that direction is not conducive to rock music. So yea, rock these days blows in general.

EDIT: I'm not saying it is a bad thing either, just kind of rambling because I'm stoned and listening to music atm. Due to how lame rock is right now and how much amazing stuff is being put out in alternative genres, you should definitely think about checking out some different genres as well since it seems you're trying to expand your library.

Awwalike

10-24-2011, 05:46 AM

opeth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2frjwvDQg5I

MrSparkle001

10-24-2011, 11:44 AM

He asked for rock and alternative, not metal.

Music that's humorous and still rocks is pretty alternative IMO. Even though Steel Panther is a parody they rock harder than most new bands I've heard.

Everyone know Slayer>Megadeth=Exodus>Anthrax>Testament>Metallica. Even the Metallica fans know that.

I'd say Metallica was king in the 80s. I was a gigantic fan up until their black album, which I tried really hard to like but couldn't. Megadeth was great too. I don't know any Metallica fans who also don't at least appreciate Megadeth, and none that badmouth them.

80s thrash ruled. You've got the top listed there, it's just the order that's debatable (actually Metallica labeled a thrash group is debatable itself. IMO they're just metal, not thrash).

baub

10-24-2011, 04:46 PM

Everyone know Slayer>Megadeth=Exodus>Anthrax>Testament>Metallica. Even the Metallica fans know that.

Needs an honorary mention for the fathers of metal imo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8IuFl3sMhk)

loopholbrook

10-25-2011, 05:29 AM

Needs an honorary mention for the fathers of metal imo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8IuFl3sMhk)

Not thrash metal though, Iron Maiden is definitely one of the greatest metal bands of all time however.

EnnoiaII

10-25-2011, 06:12 AM

Not thrash metal though, Iron Maiden would is definitely one of the greatest metal bands of all time.

Maiden is classified as 'Power Metal' along with Dio, Blind Guardian, Hammerfall etc.

Metallica is most certainly 'Thrash Metal'.

Everyone needs to watch 'Metal: A Headbanger's Journey' and 'Global Metal' before you can be considered a human being.

Csihar

10-25-2011, 08:48 AM

Maiden is classified as 'Power Metal' along with Dio, Blind Guardian, Hammerfall etc.

Iron Maiden and Dio are not power metal. They're simply heavy metal, or traditional metal, whatever you'd like to call it. They were both influential on power metal but that subgenre didn't come into existence until the mid 80s.

The chart from 'Metal: A Headbanger's Journey' wasn't very good.

EnnoiaII

10-25-2011, 09:42 AM

Iron Maiden and Dio are not power metal. They're simply heavy metal, or traditional metal, whatever you'd like to call it. They were both influential on power metal but that subgenre didn't come into existence until the mid 80s.

The chart from 'Metal: A Headbanger's Journey' wasn't very good.

The subject matter and song formats make it power metal. Traditional metal sounds nothing like what people consider heavy metal nowadays. Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath (though some would argue that as Doom Metal), Blue Oyster Cult are all true traditional metal. While Maiden and Dio may have been around since way before Power Metal was actually a mainstream thing, they're still considered Power Metal.

SearyxTZ

10-25-2011, 10:17 AM

Everyone know Slayer>Megadeth=Exodus>Anthrax>Testament>Metallica. Even the Metallica fans know that.

I'd go

Metallica > Megadeth > Slayer = Testament > Exodus > Anthrax

That's just me though. I think MoP and AJFA are two of the best metal albums ever produced (AJFA very well might be my #1).

As a whole, Metallica was the most complete band. They get a lot of shit because they got old and went in a different direction in the 90's, but I don't care about that. I care that their first 5 albums blow away just about anything else. Before Lars was universally hated as the Evil Napster Guy and Old Mediocre Drummer Who Doesn't Play The Double Bass Live, he was actually pretty influential and highly-regarded. Lyrically they are miles ahead of Megadeth IMO - Mustaine's songwriting has always been a bit cheesy. Compare "The Mechanix" to "The Four Horsemen" - same riffs/song basically. One is Metallica's version, one is Megadeth's. One song is about the four horsemen of the apocalypse and puts a metal spin on biblical text. The other one is about a gas station attendant who wants to jerk off. Yeah...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mechanix

Klendathu

10-25-2011, 12:58 PM

I'd go

Metallica > Megadeth > Slayer = Testament > Exodus > Anthrax

That's just me though. I think MoP and AJFA are two of the best metal albums ever produced (AJFA very well might be my #1).

As a whole, Metallica was the most complete band. They get a lot of shit because they got old and went in a different direction in the 90's, but I don't care about that. I care that their first 5 albums blow away just about anything else. Before Lars was universally hated as the Evil Napster Guy and Old Mediocre Drummer Who Doesn't Play The Double Bass Live, he was actually pretty influential and highly-regarded. Lyrically they are miles ahead of Megadeth IMO - Mustaine's songwriting has always been a bit cheesy. Compare "The Mechanix" to "The Four Horsemen" - same riffs/song basically. One is Metallica's version, one is Megadeth's. One song is about the four horsemen of the apocalypse and puts a metal spin on biblical text. The other one is about a gas station attendant who wants to jerk off. Yeah...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mechanix

An apt comparison, but I've not heard of anyone mentioning The Mechanix when talking about Megadeth's best stuff. I think we should compare best versus best. While I agree that Justice is prolly my #1 as well, I'll still call MoP their best effort musically. Anyone that I know that considers themselves a fan of Megadeth would say that Rust In Peace is their best. If we are gonna compare the two bands, make that the basis, IMO. On the whole, I'd give the nod to Metallica as far as the first few albums go. But RIP was fucking ballz out awesome, and I'd put it up against any metal album. Justice, Puppets, Reign in Blood, any Anthrax, Testament (Skolnick was the fucking man though), Maiden, Priest, all of it.

I don't buy into the whole metal sub-genre classification. Power metal, speed metal, thrash metal? Bah, it's fucking metal! \m/ And IMO it's not being done nearly as well now as it was back in the day.

Csihar

10-25-2011, 01:05 PM

The subject matter and song formats make it power metal. Traditional metal sounds nothing like what people consider heavy metal nowadays. Alice Cooper, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath (though some would argue that as Doom Metal), Blue Oyster Cult are all true traditional metal. While Maiden and Dio may have been around since way before Power Metal was actually a mainstream thing, they're still considered Power Metal.

Considered by some maybe but that's not the overwhelming opinion and it doesn't really fit when you look at the way it all evolved.
The bands you listed are blues-rock/hard rock or other classifications, they were only nicknamed 'heavy metal'. Heavy metal as a subgenre of rock began with Judas Priest (or in spirit with Black Sabbath. You could say there was metal before Sabbath and after Sabbath), regardless of the term 'New Wave of British Heavy Metal'. It's the same with the term 'black metal'. It didn't become an actual subgenre until the late 80s/early 90s when the Norwegian bands started releasing that type of extreme metal. Before that it was just a superficial term given to any heavy metal with satanic lyrics/satanic imagery.

Black Sabbath was a huge influence (or rather the main influence) on doom metal obviously but they're not doom metal. That subgenre developed later on.

Power metal came into existence with Helloween in 1985 pretty much. I wouldn't object to calling Dio and Iron Maiden proto-power metal though.

EnnoiaII

10-25-2011, 01:21 PM

Considered by some maybe but that's not the overwhelming opinion and it doesn't really fit when you look at the way it all evolved.
The bands you listed are blues-rock/hard rock or other classifications, they were only nicknamed 'heavy metal'. Heavy metal as a subgenre of rock began with Judas Priest (or in spirit with Black Sabbath. You could say there was metal before Sabbath and after Sabbath), regardless of the term 'New Wave of British Heavy Metal'. It's the same with the term 'black metal'. It didn't become an actual subgenre until the late 80s/early 90s when the Norwegian bands started releasing that type of extreme metal. Before that it was just a superficial term given to any heavy metal with satanic lyrics/satanic imagery.

Black Sabbath was a huge influence (or rather the main influence) on doom metal obviously but they're not doom metal. That subgenre developed later on.

Power metal came into existence with Helloween in 1985 pretty much. I wouldn't object to calling Dio and Iron Maiden proto-power metal though.

I really feel like we need to be sitting at a bar having this conversation...

Venom started the whole 'black metal' idea and style, which is a lot different than modern Norwegian black metal (Burzum/Immortal/Gorgoroth/Watain/etc). Hell, the Venom song 'Black Metal' sounds like nothing any from any of those bands. There's so many different kinds of 'black metal' that it's hard to keep track. Dimmu Borgir has a totally different style than Burzum, but both are called black metal, and both have a completely different sound than Bathory.

While the thought is in my head- Anyone who hasn't seen Alice Cooper perform live needs to do so at least once. His show is fucking phenomenal.

Csihar

10-25-2011, 02:29 PM

I really feel like we need to be sitting at a bar having this conversation...

True :)
The whole genre thing is always difficult, a lot of context needs to be provided before the term are done justice and you need to look at where the band itself is coming from.

I really feel like we need to be sitting at a bar having this conversation...

Venom started the whole 'black metal' idea and style, which is a lot different than modern Norwegian black metal (Burzum/Immortal/Gorgoroth/Watain/etc). Hell, the Venom song 'Black Metal' sounds like nothing any from any of those bands. There's so many different kinds of 'black metal' that it's hard to keep track. Dimmu Borgir has a totally different style than Burzum, but both are called black metal, and both have a completely different sound than Bathory.

Yeah. Mercyful Fate, Bathory, Hellhammer, Venom etc. are all called 'black metal' but there is really nothing (except for maybe a few elements) that tie them together musically. That's why the 'first wave of black metal' or better said black metal of the 80s was just a term given to any band with overly satanic lyric/imagery. Destruction, who have pretty much played thrash metal their entire career, called their music 'black speed metal' on their EP Sentence of Death. Speed metal was an appropriate term for them musically (on that release) and 'black metal' appropriate for the lyrics and some of the rawness. Hellhammer was labeled death metal, black metal and doom metal but I think the only appropriate term for them would simply be 'extreme metal'. Venom opened the doors for extreme metal but Bathory, Hellhammer and other bands were the first do actually create that kind of music. All three previously mentioned genres were still taking shape and retroactive labeling just isn't accurate. Another thing to consider is that Chuck Schuldiner said his band Death played death metal following a side of metal kickstarted by Venom.
Bathory is the only band that I'd label as proto-black metal in regards to Norwegian bands that came afterwards and solidified black metal as a genre.

Black metal is a particularly difficult genre because of how it got started. That'd be a long, long conversation but to me the second wave of black metal is a seperate subgenre (with the guitar style as the most obvious element) whereas the first wave of black metal is just a superficial term that is applied to extreme metal bands and heavy metal bands alike.

I'd say the main element of early 90s black metal was the guitar style and that feeling of cold, isolated darkness. Dimmu Borgir mainly just used that guitar style and some other elements but they had an entirely different direction than most of the other Norwegian bands.

I edited my post a bunch of times (was ranting) so it might be a bit incohesive. I don't agree but I get where you're coming from when you label Blue Oyster Cult and Zeppelin etc. as true traditional heavy metal and Iron Maiden and Dio as power metal.

SearyxTZ

10-25-2011, 04:58 PM

EnnoiaII

10-25-2011, 09:35 PM

I've never considered Bathory to be black metal (they don't sound like it, anyway).

Don't care for the genre much either. It's a little too crazy and there are stories of some bands actually being so fanatical or anti-christ that they (literally) murdered people/bandmates over dumb crap.

The way I see both black and death metal is there's a whole lot of really shitty "underground" bands in those genres. It's not like the gothenburg / melodic death movement where I felt like almost every band had something to offer (In Flames, Dark Tranquility, At the Gates, etc).

Thrash also has a pretty good ratio of listenable-to-crap.

Dead of Mayhem blew his own brains out and left a note 'sorry about the mess'. Some black metal artists were given necklaces made out of pieces of his skull.

Varg Vikernes of Burzum murdered Euronymous of Mayhem after Varg received threats that Euronymous was going to kill him. Varg served his sentence and is back to making music (go figure...1st degree murder in Norway is apparently not a life sentence). The music he composed in prison, such as Illa Tidandi, is just...weird.

Varg was also serving a simultaneous sentence for burning churches with members of Hades Almighty.

Spud

10-26-2011, 12:28 AM

Ringo Deathstarr - Imagine Hearts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xATi5s9-A) If you like Smashing Pumpkins/MBV

The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart - Belong (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dt1zWdmB4c) Again sounds like Smashing Pumpkins with the multiple guitar layers, the guy sings like a wuss though.

Deerhunter - Desire Lines (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mBSOtdOjoc) one of the best bands around right now i think

Ty Segall - where your mind goes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcde6jA2DDs) REALLY AWESOME

Black Lips - Modern Art (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChuYpoajar0) more "garage rock revival"

No Age - Fever Dreaming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn84clPVbG4) 2 piece punk rock band

Fesh & Onlys - Waterfall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2G4ETZvJjU) Psychedlic rock, kind of like the grateful dead

Tame Impala - Lucidity (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jekYAm3fkA) Pyschedlic rock FROM AUSTRALIA. The singer sounds eerily similar to John Lennon

PJ Harvey - The words that maketh murder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va0w5pxFkAM) PJ harvey

SearyxTZ

10-26-2011, 01:33 AM

Dead of Mayhem blew his own brains out and left a note 'sorry about the mess'. Some black metal artists were given necklaces made out of pieces of his skull.

Varg Vikernes of Burzum murdered Euronymous of Mayhem after Varg received threats that Euronymous was going to kill him. Varg served his sentence and is back to making music (go figure...1st degree murder in Norway is apparently not a life sentence). The music he composed in prison, such as Illa Tidandi, is just...weird.

Varg was also serving a simultaneous sentence for burning churches with members of Hades Almighty.

This is actually (somewhat perversely) interesting to read about.

Ohlin was born in 1969 in Stockholm, Sweden. During his childhood, he had many brushes with death. As a young child, he suffered from sleep apnea[2] and it was difficult to wake him up from it. Later, at the age of ten, he had an episode of internal bleeding when his spleen ruptured[3] after an ice skating accident.[4] He had to be rushed to a hospital, where he was for a time clinically dead. After this near-death experience he became enthralled with death and dying.

In 1986, he founded the Swedish death metal group Morbid, with which he recorded a demo tape called December Moon. Shortly afterwards, however, he decided the band wasn't going anywhere, and through Metalion, the editor of Slayer Magazine, he got in contact with the members of Mayhem. According to Necrobutcher, he initially sent them a small package inholding a demo tape, a letter, and a crucified mouse. Although Necrobutcher lost the package itself, he kept the tape which had Ohlin's contact details. Ohlin moved to Norway and joined the band in 1988.[3]
[edit] Personality

In interviews, fellow musicians often described Dead as odd and introverted. Fellow bandmember Hellhammer described Dead as "a very strange personality ... depressed, melancholic, and dark".[5] Likewise, Mayhem guitarist Euronymous once stated "I honestly think Dead is mentally insane. Which other way can you describe a guy who does not eat, in order to get starving wounds? Or who has a t-shirt with funeral announcements on it?"[6] Drummer Kjetil Manheim later likened Ohlin's personality to that of Marvin the Paranoid Android.[3]

According to Emperor drummer Bård "Faust" Eithun:

"He [Dead] wasn’t a guy you could know very well. I think even the other guys in Mayhem didn’t know him very well. He was hard to get close to. I met him two weeks before he died. I’d met him maybe six to eight times, in all. He had lots of weird ideas. I remember Aarseth was talking about him and said he did not have any humour. He did, but it was very obscure. Honestly, I don’t think he was enjoying living in this world, which of course resulted in the suicide."[7]

On the cover of Mayhem's Live in Leipzig, Ohlin printed a message which said: Jag är inte en människa. Det här är bara en dröm, och snart vaknar jag. Det var för kallt och blodet levrades hela tiden (roughly translated: I am not a human being. This is just a dream, and soon I will awake. It was too cold and my blood kept clotting all the time). In an article, journalist Chris Campion wrote that Dead may have suffered from Cotard delusion; meaning that he believed himself to be dead as a result of childhood trauma.[8]
[edit] Performances

For concerts, Dead went to great lengths to achieve the image and atmosphere he wished. From the beginning of his career he was known to wear "corpse paint", which involved covering his face with black and white makeup. According to Necrobutcher, "It wasn't anything to do with the way Kiss and Alice Cooper used makeup. Dead actually wanted to look like a corpse. He didn't do it to look cool."[8] Hellhammer claimed that Dead "was the first black metal musician to use corpse paint".[9]

To fulfill his corpse-like image, Dead would bury his clothes and dig them up again to wear on the night of a concert. According to Hellhammer:

Before the shows, Dead used to bury his clothes into the ground so that they could start to rot and get that "grave" scent. He was a "corpse" on a stage. Once he even asked us to bury him in the ground - he wanted his skin to become pale.[9]

During one tour with Mayhem, he found a dead crow and chose to keep it in a plastic bag. He often carried it about with him and would smell the bird before going onstage, to sing "with the stench of death in his nostrils".[8]
[edit] Self-harm and suicide

In time, Ohlin's social situation and his fascination with death[3] caused his mental state to worsen greatly. He would often cut himself onstage with a blade or broken bottle. However, he also tried to do so while with his friends, who would have to subdue him and patch him up.[3] Although this upset many of his friends, Euronymous became fascinated with Ohlin's suicidal tendencies—seemingly because it fit Mayhem's image—and he would often encourage Ohlin to kill himself.[3][8]

In early 1991, Varg Vikernes sent Ohlin several shotgun shells as a present for either his birthday or Christmas.[10] In April, Ohlin was left alone in Mayhem's countryside house.[3] On 8 April 1991, Ohlin slit his wrists and throat with a kitchen knife, but eventually tired of waiting and shot himself in the forehead with a shotgun using the shells sent by Vikernes. He left a brief suicide note, which apologized for having used the gun indoors and ended with: "Excuse all the blood".[11]
Dawn of the Black Hearts is infamous for its album cover, which is a photograph of Ohlin's corpse

The body was found by Euronymous, who had to climb through an open window as the doors were locked and there were no other keys to the house.[3][10] Upon finding the body, he got a camera and took several pictures of the corpse. He also allegedly kept bits of Ohlin's shattered skull.[3] His motive for doing so is unclear; Necrobutcher speculated that forcing others to see the pictures was a way for Euronymous to cope with the shock of seeing his friend dead.[3][8] After Hellhammer developed the photos, Euronymous initially promised to destroy the pictures, but ultimately didn't: He would carry an envelope with the images in Helvete[3], and eventually one of the pictures found its way as the cover of the bootleg live album Dawn of the Black Hearts, which was released in 1995.

The suicide caused a rift between Euronymous and his friends, who were disgusted by his attitude towards Ohlin before the suicide, and his behavior afterwards. Necrobutcher and Manheim said that they ended their friendships with Euronymous. Manheim later speculated that Euronymous had wilfully left Ohlin alone in the house so that he would have a chance to kill himself.[3] Ohlin's suicide was said to cause "a change in mentality" in the black metal scene and was the first in a string of infamous events carried-out by its members.[3][8]

An obituary in a Swedish newspaper stated that Ohlin's funeral was held at Österhaninge kyrka (Eastern Haninge Church) on Friday 26 April 1991 at 10:00 am.[12] He was buried at Österhaninge kyrkogård (Eastern Haninge graveyard) in Stockholm.

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