Guaranteed the most important thread you'll ever read in your entire life potentially

[Cast]

Lord GuineaToad had me fast like a jew on Yom Kippur for 7 days to repent for all of this community's sins. Now that the holidays are over, I'm back, bros.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRpXbdWhiqj0Jx0ev84XpE_vvzlq0ZvL aZxKUzVsRicx0OG1AOzlA

Just a few points I wanted to touch on in my absence..


Relax on the resist system ranting

Difficulty is finding the medium of everyone's perception of "classic," what people think classic was like from past forums/articles, and what classic truly was at some point in time
For everyone's sake, we need to start agreeing to disagree on minutiae - its all clutter that affects our time line

Some posters have more useful information than you, deal with it

Lets try to stop arguing with folks who have extensive knowledge of classic - linking a single quote from a random forum in 2002 that aligns with your POV needs to stop
Our greatest source of information is ourselves - someone like Kringe, hate him or love him, has more PVP knowledge of classic than anyone, save a few, on this forum
-(for example, my main character had 120+ days played by December 1999, hit 50 in May '99, and I had tons of PVP background as a 'random PK', yet I would still look to Kringe/a few others for their thoughts first)


Stop posting misinformation

If you didnt experience it, don't post about it - ask questions, be critical of something, but stop pretending like you went through it
Darworth comes to mind as someone who was an eternal lowbie (maybe hit 50 near kunark?), yet posts like he knows the balance of high level pvp back in classic
Our focus has to be top down, meaning we need to balance L45+ first; while low and midlevel pvp is great and fun, it will always be full of complete imbalances and focusing on it pushes back our time line significantly


Folks from classic 1999 pvp servers who were eternal lowbies need to let end game get balanced first





All I got for now bros, lets hit the showers, sweep the floor of dust and get out there for a great second half.

[Cwall]

i missed that avatar

[Softcore PK]

How does balancing end game first make anything faster?

[Doors]

welcome back dog

[Aenor]

In b4 perma ban.

[guineapig]

Since you decided to bring it up let's take a look at your posts:

post count, faggot. Don't ever question the coach.
summary: didn't read more than 3 sentences - you are a moron and should be removed from the gene pool. never fucking post again you stupid fucking retard.
Disclaimer to my above post for the retard: I played on RZ in '99, TZ at launch, SZ at launch, Discord at launch. Please go fucking jump in a fire, u dum bro a str8 moran
Read a few more sentences- wait you played on SZ? and think you can make a post like this? lol gtfo you fucking scrub. Every player from '99 rz trumps your stupid fucking post and we disallow you from posting or living from here on out. Kill yourself.

lol classic "u mad" when your whole theory gets shit on.
no classic eq pvp experience, move along - include yourself in bluebiedom, trumped by all rz'99 players.
ps clearly im 12 bro, i was playing on rallos in 1999 when i was 0 years old from my dads uterus.

These were all on the same day, in server chat, one day after I gave you a warning for flaming server chat. You should have been happy with the week. Let's make it a month.

[Blayze]

Since you decided to bring it up let's take a look at your posts:








These were all on the same day, one day after I gave you a warning for flaming server chat. You should have been happy with the week. Let's make it a month.

About time someone holds these children accountable for this childish BS! Lets grow and promote a more mature community.

[boss]

ouch coach

[Amuk]

and BTW most of his post had merit so.

[Blayze]

Not that I care much either way, but I actually hang around with other guys who don't talk like a bunch of faggots. Therefore, cast's "childish" shit doesn't really offend me - people need to wipe their vaginas and stop crying.

Wow you must be the coolest kid in school.

[Amuk]

About time someone holds these children accountable for this childish BS! Lets grow and promote a more mature community.

Wow you must be a basement dwelling loser who hangs out with his mom. Hold people accountable for swearing on an internet forums? You think an eq pvp server is going to be a mature community? Did you even play live? Have you played any competitive game including any sport?

[Rust1d?]

Amuk next to be banned.

[Blayze]

Wow you must be a basement dwelling loser who hangs out with his mom. Hold people accountable for swearing on an internet forums? You think an eq pvp server is going to be a mature community? Did you even play live? Have you played any competitive game including any sport?

Its not the swearing that I have an issue with. Its bashing people and being negative just to make you feel like a tough guy online and make up for whatever is lacking in your real life. (I.E. your above post)

Considering EQ is over ten years old now Im assuming most players did in fact play classic and are a little older than most gaming circles. So to answer your question yes I would expect a more mature community.

Not that its your business but Im actually a 27 year old man who lives with his girlfriend and child. (Not in a basement and not with mom) I played Rallos Zek classic but was young/noob and never even reached max level. I have not only played competitive games but Ive actually been to LAN Tournaments (GXL 256 man LAN) and my team won first place in both COD / Quake 3. Also played football and basketball in my high school days and still enjoy a lil pickup basketball when I find the time.

Try again failtroll.

[Tyen01]

Coach Cast

[fiegi]

Blayze so serious

[Toomuch]

Cast so banned

*fixed

[Palemoon]

things do need to get more pleasant around here, tired of all the e-thugs

[valithteezee]

Blayze playing basketball for real.

[fiegi]

oh no cast banned, only takes about 40 seconds to make another forum name - what a timesink

[fiegi]

verbally flogged

[Shamanx]

Basketball

[Titanuk]

Since you decided to bring it up let's take a look at your posts:







These were all on the same day, in server chat, one day after I gave you a warning for flaming server chat. You should have been happy with the week. Let's make it a month.

guess we cant be men about it

[Titanuk]

oh no cast banned, only takes about 40 seconds to make another forum name - what a timesink

[Scribbles]

I have not only played competitive games but Ive actually been to LAN Tournaments (GXL 256 man LAN) and my team won first place in both COD / Quake 3.

this man has won lan tournaments. take him seriously or face the consequences

[Blayze]

The fact that you have a problem with anything on a 10 year old game message board is why you're a fucking nerd. The fact that you feel the need to write me your life story to show that you benched some shitty highschool football team so you didn't hear the tough-guy talk during the actual game is why you're a nerd. The fact that you're cheering a mod on for holding a guy accountable for being "immature" on a 10 year old forum is why you're a nerd.

This shit isn't real life, and it's only going to get worse once the servers released, so shut up and if you don't like someone bashing people - ignore them.

Making ridiculous real life assumptions/name calling/cursing. Failtroll is angry! E-thugs get mad when the truth comes out.

[Giovanni]

Im actually a 27 year old man who lives with his girlfriend and child.

[Crenshinabon]

I thought his sig was funny actually. You cannot take guys like this seriously.

[Blayze]

Assumptions aside -

1) Sensitive about negative comments on an online pvp msg board
2) Cheer on a mod banning a guy for calling people names
3) Resorting to u-mad

I'm no math wizard, but pretty sure someone could bust these variables into a formula and assume 90%+ chance you take it in the ass. Least you got a wife and kid to fool all ur lan party friends.

You've been humiliated and have resorted to middle school "homo" name calling. My job here is done.

Blayze - Calling out all e-thugs and promoting a more positive and mature PvP environment. Vote Blayze in 2012!

[Giovanni]

Im actually a 27 year old man who lives with his girlfriend and child. I have not only played competitive games but Ive actually been to LAN Tournaments

I just like letting the quotes speak for themselves.

[Shrubwise]

Taking away an egotist's forum name has a more lasting effect than one may think, fiegi.

[mourning]

HEh.......Heh..................................... ..Heh....

[Vile]

I book marked this thread

[Rushmore]

Since you decided to bring it up let's take a look at your posts:







These were all on the same day, in server chat, one day after I gave you a warning for flaming server chat. You should have been happy with the week. Let's make it a month.

This is a pvp server. Trolling and making fun of your opponent should be considered strategy. Coach Cast is correct. I know the VZTZ'ers come off as faggots and might certainly be faggots. But they know ass fucking. (they know pvp) Lean on them pals.

You don't spank your children (community) because you hate them you spank them because you love them. (they want what you want...something better)

It's obvious who knows and who doesn't. Bring a few of the veterans from VZTZ in a private vent channel and discuss shit equally. The people that played on VZ/TZ have a head start on how things will pan out. We've done this the past 3 years. Whether it failed or not wasn't necessary our fault. It was the fault of people who were to cool to ask questions and work things out.

All so very simple bros.

[Nirgon]

Cracked up reading some of Cast's comments.

Don't be banning for this stuff it goes to tells with people who use like minded language.

[fiegi]

guineapig shoulda been a cop irl

[Rushmore]

one of things I am a super fan of already was making someone like Smedy a moderator. Keep incorporating VZTZ people. We just want a fair server just like anyone else. The elite vets will tell you anything you need to know. Ask them.
Reach out to them. If you don't know who they are ask someone like Smedy. Sharing information between people who understand what the fuck is going on is priceless.

(and no I do not consider myself one of them)

[Nirgon]

Forums hosted here = bad idea after launch, just going to put that out there.

[Uthin0311]

haha this is good times, def a funny ass thread. Good brotherhood building IMO.

[Shrubwise]

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[Shrubwise]

Come on bros, let's play basketball

[Blayze]

Shrubwise from Peace Pipe?

[Aenor]

Coach gets T'd up!

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/2010/10/01/technical_fouls_487_381.jpg

[Softcore PK]

It doesn't look good when your guildleader is banned multiple times for bigotry :/

[Xantille]

this man has won lan tournaments. take him seriously or face the consequences

[Macken]

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/224/200017337ae3d540192b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/200017337ae3d540192b.jpg/)

[Blayze]

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/224/200017337ae3d540192b.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/200017337ae3d540192b.jpg/)

ROFL!! Much better troll attempt. 9/10.

[Dojii]

cast is an attention deprived complex; moron.

[Dojii]

whoever blayze is just pwned amuk.

amuk is casts cheerleader lol. nub leading the nubs.

[Tombom]

I don't know who is on who's side, I've been away from forumz for a while, but fuck me, we had a basketball coach and now we have a genuine highschool basketball star, this is a great day!

[Tombom]

PS I played in many lan games so my opinion is valid, HALO:CE is god tier, bless the pistol

[Jirr]

Someone should archive this and show it as a warning to the people applying to GM on the server.

[MakeYouMad]

Cast is Heaven's Myst, he has fucking 5,000 posts on the Fires of Heaven forums and runs around calling other people "bluebies". He was a nobody on SZ, I literally never saw him get kill spam on *anyone* on VZTZ before I quit. Somehow he got into holocaust and now thinks he's legit? lol :confused: :confused: :confused:

[solid]

Love when neckbeards try to make their meager real life existence sound *AWESOME* on internet forums. You sure dispelled any notion that you were a loser by telling the world that you won a LAN tournament and play pick-up basketball sometimes. :rolleyes:

Also, Dojii calling someone a moron; talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

[Tombom]

*moran - in honor of the fallen

[Goobles]

The fact that you have a problem with anything on a 10 year old game message board is why you're a fucking nerd. The fact that you feel the need to write me your life story to show that you benched some shitty highschool football team so you didn't hear the tough-guy talk during the actual game is why you're a nerd. The fact that you're cheering a mod on for holding a guy accountable for being "immature" on a 10 year old forum is why you're a nerd.

This shit isn't real life, and it's only going to get worse once the servers released, so shut up and if you don't like someone bashing people - ignore them.

Lol @ nerd bomb.

[Dojii]

Solid go play some table top games and dungeons and dragons you are a nerd. Lol at solid in vent sounds like a gay fat kid.

[VanEyck]

http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Urkel-Domestic-Violence.jpg

[solid]

On a forum for an emulated server of a 10 year old MMO that's currently played by <.5% of the MMO population, how is calling someone a nerd even an insult?

[Titanuk]

On a forum for an emulated server of a 10 year old MMO that's currently played by <.5% of the MMO population, how is calling someone a nerd even an insult?

[Dojii]

On a forum for an emulated server of a 10 year old MMO that's currently played by <.5% of the MMO population, how is calling someone a nerd even an insult?

idk wtf kind of question is that? nerd.

[solid]

idk

There's a shocker. :rolleyes:

[Dojii]

b/c i don't want to think about your nerd question. just calling you a nerd don't need an in depth analysis, or some cool story.

[fiegi]

b/c i don't want to think about your nerd question. just calling you a nerd don't need an in depth analysis, or some cool story.

stick 2 lyrics and raps - your out of your element.

[guineapig]

oh no cast banned, only takes about 40 seconds to make another forum name - what a timesink

Cast IS the troll account. He actually contributes to the community in his posts on his original account, which is more than I can say for some of you. I left that one alone.

[guineapig]

Also, let me make this clear. If you want to troll and flame due to PVP you have a forum for that: http://www.project1999.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=55

PVP server chat is the wrong place.

[fiegi]

Cast IS the troll account. He actually contributes to the community in his posts on his original account, which is more than I can say for some of you. I left that one alone.

atta boy

[Cwall]

good cop bad cop

[Palemoon]

Cast IS the troll account. He actually contributes to the community in his posts on his original account, which is more than I can say for some of you. I left that one alone.

You were way too kind. People should not be able to hide behind troll accounts, or in game trainer/hacker accounts.

Ban them all.

[solid]

You were way too kind. People should not be able to hide behind troll accounts, or in game trainer/hacker accounts.

Ban them all.

Just an FYI, #1 reason people stop GMing is because of people like you.

People go into GMing knowing full well that they'll have to deal with jerks/trolls, and there's ultimately an easy solution to that problem.

What there isn't an easy solution to, however, are people like you who call for bannings constantly and demand an undue amount of supervision/intervention, which eventually just burns GMs out.

[Gnar]

It doesn't look good when your guildleader is banned multiple times for bigotry :/

it does if you are from vztz you dripping vagina.

[Knuckle]

HPT said it best:

"Yeah we might be dicks, and dicks fuck pussies, but we also fuck assholes, and if we didnt fuck the assholes they'd be running around shitting on all you pussies"

[Macken]

... people like you who call for bannings constantly and demand an undue amount of supervision/intervention, which eventually just burns GMs out.

Don't forget babysitting.

Babysitting.

[solid]

HPT said it best:

"Yeah we might be dicks, and dicks fuck pussies, but we also fuck assholes, and if we didnt fuck the assholes they'd be running around shitting on all you pussies"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/quotes?qt=qt0421204

[fiegi]

hpt outed

[Nirgon]

GP just need to put King Smedy to work quickly moving posts to RNF. This will slowly but surely congregate the masses where they (me too a lot) belong

[Knuckle]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/quotes?qt=qt0421204

Lol wow nice.

[naez]

Reading the thread title caused unsatisfied expectations

[Darwoth]

Darworth comes to mind as someone who was an eternal lowbie (maybe hit 50 near kunark?), yet posts like he knows the balance of high level pvp back in classic



i care not for your forked tongue

[Palemoon]

Just an FYI, #1 reason people stop GMing is because of people like you.

People go into GMing knowing full well that they'll have to deal with jerks/trolls, and there's ultimately an easy solution to that problem.

What there isn't an easy solution to, however, are people like you who call for bannings constantly and demand an undue amount of supervision/intervention, which eventually just burns GMs out.

Keep it classic.

GM's did not allow homophobic, anti semitic, N-word bombing trolls to spam the forums and server chats in 1999.

[Macken]

Keep it classic.

GM's did not allow homophobic, anti semitic, N-word bombing trolls to spam the forums and server chats in 1999.

Of course in a PvP community, the best way to stop behavior is to let on that the behaviour is aggravating you.

[Palemoon]

Of course in a PvP community, the best way to stop behavior is to let on that the behaviour is aggravating you.

Or just /report them when they break the forum rules. I'm thinking that might be the "best way".

[Macken]

Yeah, that will stop them.

[Palemoon]

Yeah, that will stop them.

At least for a month...

[Macken]

or 40 seconds...whichever comes first.

[Macken]

Or just /report them when they break the forum rules. I'm thinking that might be the "best way".

tat·tle·tale   /ˈtætlˌteɪl/ Show Spelled[tat-l-teyl] Show IPA
noun
1.a talebearer or informer, especially among children.

[naez]

snitches get stitches

[Dojii]

lul cast soapbox drama imploded.

[Kraz]

Motha fucking wizzards neva die!

[Blayze]

Motha fucking wizzards neva die!

QFT!!!

[Blayze]

atta boy

this child should be the next one in time out.

[Dontmez_Mebro]

Assumptions aside -

1) Sensitive about negative comments on an online pvp msg board
2) Cheer on a mod banning a guy for calling people names
3) Resorting to u-mad

I'm no math wizard, but pretty sure someone could bust these variables into a formula and assume 90%+ chance you take it in the ass. Least you got a wife and kid to fool all ur lan party friends.

I just did the math and it concludes that you take it ass to mouth 100% Now go brush your shit covered teeth and kiss your fat mom goodnight.

[Melveny]

I just did the math and it concludes that you take it ass to mouth 100% Now go brush your shit covered teeth and kiss your fat mom goodnight.

A 12 year old comment comes to mind.

[guineapig]

The fact that you have a problem with anything on a 10 year old game message board is why you're a fucking nerd. The fact that you feel the need to write me your life story to show that you benched some shitty highschool football team so you didn't hear the tough-guy talk during the actual game is why you're a nerd. The fact that you're cheering a mod on for holding a guy accountable for being "immature" on a 10 year old forum is why you're a nerd.

This shit isn't real life, and it's only going to get worse once the servers released, so shut up and if you don't like someone bashing people - ignore them.


Amuk, the rules apply to everyone, regardless of what version of the game you play. Server chat is server chat. R&F is R&F. Doesn't matter if you are a "bluebie" or a "PVP god". It's not that difficult to understand.

Oh wow!!! Look at the quote in my signature!!
VVVVVVVVVV

[Softcore PK]

Thank you, guinea. I would like for server chat to be a generally civil place. It's not like anyone is being censored, really.. but threads like this belong in the rants forum.

[Amuk]

Wow you must be the coolest kid in school.

Is this not confrontational because it doesn't involve swear words? You're the one who follows your own version of shitty rules. If someone said that shit to me in real life I'd call him out - I don't really care much about these forums TBH but it really seems like you're trying to make them boring as shit. I imagine it will just end up like Tallon Zek Times where the players decide to make their own forum to avoid bullshit mods like this.

"act like this is your place of work" in a private msg forum warning - what a joke, I say shit 10x worse then I've said in this thread at my work.

[fiegi]

guineapig known bike cop

[Vile]

guineapig known bike cop

http://www.newsargus.com/news/photos/2009/03/Segway_Cop_014_full.jpg

[guineapig]

No, more like:

http://a.1asphost.com/rehp/bike-cop.gif

You are envious...

[Amuk]

Deleted what I was going to say - I've hung out with cops, this kid isn't.

[guineapig]

You guys need to pick a lame insult and stick with it.
I'm a cop, I'm not a cop. It's all very boring....

[Amuk]

Kind of like these forums.

[solid]

lol @ guinea getting trolled into rambling about stuff that competent mods/GMs would just ignore

[guineapig]

Kind of like these forums. I agree.

lol @ guinea getting trolled into rambling about stuff that competent mods/GMs would just ignore

I happen to be bored with a few minutes to go before my weekend starts.

http://www.emoticonswallpapers.com/avatar/cartoons/Ill-do-what-I-want.jpg

[solid]

Always refreshing to see professionalism is not a factor in the leadership of a project.

[guineapig]

I can't help you if you think that a picture of a cop on a pink bike is bothersome.

You need to lighten up, it's Friday.

[Nirgon]

Bait tastes good, how's that hook today? Need a little salt?

[Dontmez_Mebro]

Is this not confrontational because it doesn't involve swear words? You're the one who follows your own version of shitty rules. If someone said that shit to me in real life I'd call him out - I don't really care much about these forums TBH but it really seems like you're trying to make them boring as shit. I imagine it will just end up like Tallon Zek Times where the players decide to make their own forum to avoid bullshit mods like this.

"act like this is your place of work" in a private msg forum warning - what a joke, I say shit 10x worse then I've said in this thread at my work.

You may be able to get away with talking like that while mopping up at the local porno booth, but show a little civility on the forums.

[Melveny]

I just did the math and it concludes that you take it ass to mouth 100% Now go brush your shit covered teeth and kiss your fat mom goodnight.

Says This D-bag

If Amuk is in trouble for that Agro post, this guy deserve an ip ban.

[Dontmez_Mebro]

Do as I say not as I do son.

Trololololo

[Harrison]

Cast, how's painting loading docks going for you?

[Amuk]

You may be able to get away with talking like that while mopping up at the local porno booth, but show a little civility on the forums.

Sorry that the fat guy in the Mcdonalds line would get pissed at you if you don't follow your have a great day script.