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Macken
10-08-2011, 08:37 AM
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Dear Macken,

You have received an infraction at Project 1999.

Reason: Insults / Inappropriate Language Outside RNF
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bigotry
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?p=427750

Quote:
http://http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582053


More proof that a leaderboard is needed and that homosexuals have ruined America.

All the best,
Project 1999
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nilbog
Server chat is for civil conversation. Personal attacks/generally being confrontational will not be tolerated.

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Originally Posted by LG High Priest of Rogean
Guineapig don't taze me
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All the people are saying America and the world is going to hell in a hand basket. And I just point to all the good work that our friend Guineapig is doing down at P99.

I mean whats better for America than the down-on-your-knees, sucking-of-the-dong work that Guineapig is doing for the Homo community?

Macken
10-08-2011, 09:12 AM
From Wikipedia:

Etymology

The origin of the word bigot and bigoterie (bigotry) in English dates back to at least 1598, via Middle French, and started with the sense of "religious hypocrite". The exact origin of the word is unknown, but it may have come from the German bei and gott, or the English by God. William Camden wrote that the Normans were first called bigots, when their Duke Rollo, who when receiving Gisla, daughter of King Charles, in marriage, and with her the investiture of the dukedom, refused to kiss the king's foot in token of subjection - unless the king would hold it out for that specific purpose. When being urged to do it by those present, Rollo answered hastily "No, by God", whereupon the King, turning about, called him bigot, which then passed from him to his people.[1] This is quite probably fictional, as Gisla is unknown in Frankish sources. It is true, however, that the French used the term bigot to abuse the Normans.[2]

Defender Guinea,

It is now apparent that your staff has been using the word bigot to insult and grief those who spread the truth. Please refrain from doing so outside RNF.

You intentionally broke the link in the original post outside RNF. Please allow the truth to be set free. This is RNF yes?

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582053

We need a board. The effemination of America is making us weak.

Harrison
10-08-2011, 09:34 AM
Cry more

Palemoon
10-08-2011, 09:35 AM
Ahh ok good, i'll be sure to report offensive language outside of RnF more often.

Save your bigotry for your family around the breakfast table please, we dont want to hear it here.

Macken
10-08-2011, 09:48 AM
Diogenes the Cynic
BANNED Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 58,797

I think they should keep score as soon as they're old enough to understand it. That doesn't mean you have to place a lot of importance on it, and you should still stress having fun over winning and losing, but taking the score out it takes away from the fun, it doesn't enhance it. The same with the softball games where kids are allowed infinite strikes and whatnot. Sports are about competing. That's what makes them fun. Taking away the competitive aspects ruins it.

Kids are not going to be devastated by losing, and they still know who's good and who isn't anyway, so it isn't like ignoring the score conceals anything, and giving them 15 strikes just emabrrasses them more, it doesn't make them feel better.

When I was running a couple of sumer day camps in St. Paul, we used to organize little softball and kickball games. Most of the people who worked with me there at the rec centers were women, and they always wanted to not keep score and let the kids swing until they got hits. They even wanted foul balls to be counted as fair. It was ridiculous. I had to put my foot down about. Started running the games by normal rules, kept score and the kids had a lot more fun. When there aren't any rules at all, there isn't any point.

At risk of sounding sexist, it seemed to me like there was a fundamental disconnect between the way men and women understood how boys feel about competitive activities. Not all women, obviously. Dont flame me, but a lot of them didn't seem to get that boys liked trying to beat each other. They need competition and crave it on almost a molecular level. They are also not emotionally ruined by losing a fair contest, and for the most part the kids don't take it off the field with them. There are kids who are bullies, and kids who gloat too much about winning, but the other kids know those kids are assholes.

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Sounds like Red99.

Also, poor dude obviously got banned/griefed for not sugar coating the truth.

Macken
10-08-2011, 10:35 AM
gonzomax
Guest Join Date: May 2006

keeping score does not mean the kids will be broken hearted with a loss. If they are young they will just think ,so what. Some kids are competitive and want to win everything. Many of the other catch on later. But it does not scar them for life to lose a game they barely understand how to play. If you play, keep score.

Macken
10-08-2011, 10:36 AM
Gustav
Guest Join Date: May 2009

Even as a kid I never understood the point of playing games if you're not keeping score. All that's left is a bunch of idiots running around waving their arms and kicking stuff for no reason.

Macken
10-08-2011, 10:41 AM
Spoons
Charter Member Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Lethbridge, Alberta
Posts: 7,068

Do the kids ever play an unorganized pickup game of any kind? Say, a baseball game in the schoolyard at lunch, or a weekend afternoon football game in the park? What do they do then? As I recall my own childhood, we always kept score in such games. Not that it really mattered--teams would change from day to day as the day's captains would select from the available pool of kids who showed up. But it never occurred to us not to keep score.

Certainly in the organized sports I participated in during my childhood, scores were kept. Somebody won and somebody lost. We all wanted to play like the pros we watched on TV did, and that included keeping score. I think we would have refused to play if the adults told us that scores would not be kept, as to us, it would have been pointless.

To more directly address the OP's question, I think scores should be kept at any age. But I don't think it should be for any reason related to "fostering the competitiveness that will be needed as an adult." Rather, I think it's because keeping score is a part of the game. If you're not keeping score, you're not playing the game.


Good question: What do the organizing adults tell the kids who want to keep score?

Macken
10-08-2011, 10:44 AM
Peremensoe
Guest Join Date: Apr 2010

If you're not keeping score, you're not really playing a game, you're just having a practice or workout. Scorekeeping should begin the very first time the kids face an opposing team.

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Macken
10-08-2011, 10:54 AM
#26 10-16-2010, 07:51 PM
Diogenes the Cynic
BANNED Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 58,797

We can already see it. It's part of a coddling culture that's resulting in kids still living in their parents' houses at 30, having a ridiculous sense of entitlement from being rewarded for nothing all their lives and having no preparation for life away from mommy. Not keeping score is how you create misfit, maladapted nerds who dress up like pandas and have "girlfriends" they only ever talk to on the internet.

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This guy knows some of you personally that are against a leaderboard.

Macken
10-08-2011, 10:56 AM
Diogenes the Cynic
BANNED Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: St. Paul, MN
Posts: 58,797


They don't have to play sports to be competitive in either ways (and to learn from losing and failure. The best thing that sports does is teach kids how to learn from failure).
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Learn from your failures bros.

Macken
10-08-2011, 10:58 AM
AK84
Guest Join Date: Apr 2008

In life there are winner and losers and failures. I think you are setting kids up to be the last of the three with such stupid ideas as no score and everybody wins.

Harrison
10-08-2011, 11:00 AM
This kid is off his rocker, and meds. Someone put him down.

Macken
10-08-2011, 11:08 AM
Don't get confused. I realize unless you are a forum troll, you will need me to dig and find a few posts and highlight the areas that apply to people who don't understand about keeping score.

Except for that one guy who knows some of you personally, all of those people may not even have heard of EQ and even they understand the importance of our leaderboard. Unless of course you are 3-5.

Or effeminate.

Harrison
10-08-2011, 11:28 AM
Definitely mad, and without a doubt bad.

Macken
10-08-2011, 11:30 AM
Mad @ Tubby

Nirgon
10-08-2011, 12:27 PM
More SZ trash, yayyyy

Macken
10-08-2011, 12:54 PM
More SZ trash, yayyyy

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5135/normalmichaeljordanciga.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/normalmichaeljordanciga.jpg/)

guineapig
10-08-2011, 12:57 PM
Defending minorities = nazi?

You guys are funny...

boss
10-08-2011, 01:19 PM
trash

Harrison
10-08-2011, 02:05 PM
I'm crying over a message board

Ames
10-08-2011, 03:44 PM
I'm crying cause I'm fat and insecure so i post crotch shots on a everquest forum

Harrison
10-08-2011, 04:07 PM
[16:27] <Finawin-Harrison> RL pic thread trolled successfully

Definitely planned it with countercreeping visage posts.

Macken
10-08-2011, 06:00 PM
The call has gone out from Harrison to the rest of his guild to get their bodies ready.


http://youtu.be/0k6h8G1nfNs

mitic
10-09-2011, 03:25 AM
openly patronising someone from serverstaff on the forums is the best thing you could do

Grahm
10-09-2011, 06:20 AM
Macken is 100% a douche. Confirmed

Macken
10-09-2011, 10:57 AM
I speak truth to power.

Get on my level.

fiegi
10-09-2011, 11:33 AM
I got a warning for calling someone an idiot a few months back....... all you can really do is laugh it off.

fiegi
10-09-2011, 11:33 AM
I got a warning for calling someone an idiot a few months back....... all you can really do is laugh it off. Clearly the person giving these warnings got stuffed in a locker in highschool and this is his revenge.

fiegi
10-09-2011, 11:35 AM
oh god i screwed that up

Waedawen
10-09-2011, 02:14 PM
What the fuck is wrong with you people and where has p99 gone.

Cast
10-09-2011, 02:51 PM
I got a warning for calling someone an idiot a few months back....... all you can really do is laugh it off.

got one for something to do with my signature, removed it too. sad day for da coach

Macken
10-09-2011, 04:00 PM
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3851/holiday07andzahivisit05.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/holiday07andzahivisit05.jpg/)



Why anyone would witness this and not automatically reach for a pen and paper to keep score is beyond me.

Softcore PK
10-09-2011, 04:27 PM
What is this thread even about? :s

Macken
10-09-2011, 05:22 PM
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9745/fightbn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/fightbn.jpg/)



Falling further and further behind.

Leaderboard up before it is too late.

God-King Abacab
10-09-2011, 05:28 PM
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9745/fightbn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/fightbn.jpg/)



Falling further and further behind.

Leaderboard up before it is too late.

The dutch do nothing but fight

Aesop
10-09-2011, 07:57 PM
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9745/fightbn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/fightbn.jpg/)



Falling further and further behind.

Leaderboard up before it is too late.

Macken

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk59imFr6yI

Macken
10-09-2011, 08:15 PM
You can listen to me now or believe me later.

Follow my suggestions or this will be a normal day in the life of players and staff on Red99:

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/5238/imagescauwns13.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/imagescauwns13.jpg/)






Which will result in the staff doing this:

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6224/2541341392c1bbf293ba.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/2541341392c1bbf293ba.jpg/)





If allowed, I will play either way because I will be doing this:

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5131/imagescahqvgd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/imagescahqvgd2.jpg/)






while my friends cook and feed me bacon:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/6540/imagescao1kgcj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/imagescao1kgcj.jpg/)





while the rest of you:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1741/womenvolleyballcryinglo.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/womenvolleyballcryinglo.jpg/)

Macken
10-10-2011, 09:38 AM
The future of P99 pvp is in doubt.

With the staff clueless enough to ignorantly attempt to implement a dynamic pvp level system against the wishes of practically all of their population. All the while creating senseless bugs, delaying the launch, and aggravating the player base with unwanted staff pet projects that do nothing but hinder and discourage pvp.

Compound these deeply troubling events with the Nazistic effort to delete, censor and otherwise thwart the disemination of information by our heroes in an attempt to conceal the truth.

The future is indeed dim for P99 pvp with the current staff in place. Their nazistic approach has backfired and with bone-headed policies in place like level-restricted pvp, no leaderboard and the deletion of any thread or post that disagrees with them, they will continue to put downward pressure on population numbers.

No one trusts forum nazis.

For good reason.

Rogean
10-10-2011, 04:30 PM
The future of P99 pvp is in doubt.

With the staff clueless enough to ignorantly attempt to implement a dynamic pvp level system against the wishes of practically all of their population. All the while creating senseless bugs, delaying the launch, and aggravating the player base with unwanted staff pet projects that do nothing but hinder and discourage pvp.

Compound these deeply troubling events with the Nazistic effort to delete, censor and otherwise thwart the disemination of information by our heroes in an attempt to conceal the truth.

The future is indeed dim for P99 pvp with the current staff in place. Their nazistic approach has backfired and with bone-headed policies in place like level-restricted pvp, no leaderboard and the deletion of any thread or post that disagrees with them, they will continue to put downward pressure on population numbers.

No one trusts forum nazis.

For good reason.

The future of Macken is in doubt.

His baseless accusations of censorship is unfounded and unproven. What he fails to understand is that there is a very simple set of rules to follow on these forums, and while there are civil ways to convey an opinion, doing so while insulting the staff with name calling and passive aggressive statements is a direct violation of these rules.

The future is indeed dim for P99 PvP with the current trolls such as Macken in place. Their contradictory approach has backfired with bone-headed hypocritical statements like dismissing non-classic changes in one post while advocating non-classic changes such as yellow text and leaderboards in another. All the while creating senseless work on the staff's part to dismiss these claims, delaying the launch, and aggravating the staff team.



This team will not and never has deleted threads just because they differ from our opinion. If this opinion is conveyed in a form that breaks forum rules, the post will be locked or deleted, and using the differing opinion as an excuse is ignorance and forum trolling at it's best.

Rogean
10-10-2011, 04:32 PM
Also, the delay of R99 Patching and Launch is 90% simply due to the fact that I have a very busy job IRL. I have gotten little to no free time in the last several weeks, and the little time I do get, I try to spend creating this server for your benefit, not mine. After working Mon-Fri last week, I went into work on Sat at noon, and didn't get home until 2 AM this morning, only to go back to work at 8 AM.

Jerrin
10-10-2011, 05:23 PM
No one cares about the words of unappreciative kids who feel entitled and have no contribution whatsoever. There are plenty of us who actually understand the process and are happy to wait for the server to be balanced.

Thanks for your hard work.

The future of Macken is in doubt.

His baseless accusations of censorship is unfounded and unproven. What he fails to understand is that there is a very simple set of rules to follow on these forums, and while there are civil ways to convey an opinion, doing so while insulting the staff with name calling and passive aggressive statements is a direct violation of these rules.

The future is indeed dim for P99 PvP with the current trolls such as Macken in place. Their contradictory approach has backfired with bone-headed hypocritical statements like dismissing non-classic changes in one post while advocating non-classic changes such as yellow text and leaderboards in another. All the while creating senseless work on the staff's part to dismiss these claims, delaying the launch, and aggravating the staff team.



This team will not and never has deleted threads just because they differ from our opinion. If this opinion is conveyed in a form that breaks forum rules, the post will be locked or deleted, and using the differing opinion as an excuse is ignorance and forum trolling at it's best.

Ames
10-10-2011, 05:46 PM
Also, the delay of R99 Patching and Launch is 90% simply due to the fact that I have a very busy job IRL. I have gotten little to no free time in the last several weeks, and the little time I do get, I try to spend creating this server for your benefit, not mine. After working Mon-Fri last week, I went into work on Sat at noon, and didn't get home until 2 AM this morning, only to go back to work at 8 AM.

Lord praise the high priest!


We must present a sacrifice to appease the great spirit who does so much for us.



Anyone wanna volunteer so we can rip your heart out while you are still alive and present it 2 The Sun God Rogean <King of the Romans> , His holy See ?

Tyen01
10-10-2011, 05:48 PM
lol

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6224/2541341392c1bbf293ba.jpg

Ames
10-10-2011, 05:49 PM
The future of P99 pvp is in doubt.

With the staff clueless enough to ignorantly attempt to implement a dynamic pvp level system against the wishes of practically all of their population. All the while creating senseless bugs, delaying the launch, and aggravating the player base with unwanted staff pet projects that do nothing but hinder and discourage pvp.

Compound these deeply troubling events with the Nazistic effort to delete, censor and otherwise thwart the disemination of information by our heroes in an attempt to conceal the truth.

The future is indeed dim for P99 pvp with the current staff in place. Their nazistic approach has backfired and with bone-headed policies in place like level-restricted pvp, no leaderboard and the deletion of any thread or post that disagrees with them, they will continue to put downward pressure on population numbers.

No one trusts forum nazis.

For good reason.



Macken has volunteered to be the sacrifice for our lord and savor, Sean Jesus Rogean Christ.


Nobody will miss Macken cuz he is fat

Ames
10-10-2011, 05:50 PM
savior

Macken
10-10-2011, 07:09 PM
Your work is greatly appreciated by way more than just myself. Let me take this time to again thank you for all the work you selflessly do on behalf of an ungrateful community. I still havn't figured out why you are doing it.

That being said, that doesn't buy you a ticket to screw everything up (without getting called out for it.) If you think your dynamic pvp system is doing anything other than aggravating a whole community while protecting those who don't and won't pvp, then the hubris of this project has already overtaken you and all is already lost. I knowing this, have not and will not stop speaking truth to power as I have always done.

If you don't think forum censorship is happening, then you are less attuned to the goings on of your project than you would like for everyone to believe.

CENSORHIP IS KING ON THIS FORUM AND IS PROVEN AROUND 5 TIMES A DAY. All i did was make a point to Guinea and everyone came out of the woodwork to congratulate me. Apparently i stumbled onto a sore spot with your community, despite whatever you would spew out of your mouth to try and convince the gullible of anything different. The examples are expansive, daunting, numerous, over-taking, voluminous and they are everywhere if you can find them fast enough before they are deleted by your forum NATZIS.

More importantly they are based on hard concrete FACTS and are PROVEN despite your lies. Why else does everyone agree?

You might have better luck if you can explain to your inept staff the difference between the two words, faggot and homosexual, instead of running down those who point out these faults? 1. FAGGOT 2. HOMOSEXUAL. I suspect you are having trouble with this yourself as your staff sure is. Faggot is a slang term for homosexual that infuriates homosexuals. Homosexual is a scientific term to scientifically describes a faggot. Homosexual is an accepted and expected word that those who wish to describe this curious condition must use as this is the only acceptable word for all parties.

Learn it and live it. Whatever you do, don't try to come at me on the internet until you learn the difference. Otherwise you will look more dumb than you already do trying to take on the PVP Superstar.

You can't dismiss valid claims with mere lip service. No one is listening to you anymore. Wasn't it 6 months ago that you went to VZTZ and crapped on Keegan and said you were hosting vztz from now on? That was 6 months ago, I never saw VZTZ under your tutelage ever. No one listens to you anymore bro. They are only watching your actions.

Your actions show that while you are a talented and smart man, you still have alot to learn about human psychology and interaction. If you didn't, the pvp community would not have had to explain to you that this is a pvp server and as such there will be alot of fighting going on. To discourage that, as well as hardcode rules to discourage that is disengenuous and makes you look ignorant.

Also, if you wanted for everyone to believe that you are altruistic with this project and that you are above censorship of other's ideas, it would probably be wise not to threaten those people on the forums when they point it out.

Especially when it's so darn obvious to EVERYONE.

Please don't ban me for telling you the truth to your face. If you do, you will have proven everything i said and more.

Again, thankyou for your time and energy. If you can't tell, I am excited about this project that you have undertaken and wait breathelessly on it's results. I just know, if i don't speak up now, it will be too late for everyone later, wether i am allowed to play or not.

Softcore PK
10-10-2011, 08:02 PM
I think Rogean and staff have come up with a very sensible ruleset. Macken just wants SZ mixed with VZ/TZ because that's what he had fun playing. This new server will be lots of fun, though, for new reasons. It's not so much reliving our EQ glory days as it is creating new ones.

Jerrin
10-10-2011, 09:24 PM
lol when people use the 'everyone' argument to support their psyco-freaking-pathetic ramblings.

Here's something to ponder mr. logic man:

In order for your post to be accurate, I'd have to agree with you, and since I think your a complete ingrate low intellect entitled idiot who doesn't make any sense whatsoever, your post is incorrect

WoW is ----> that way. Don't kick the door on your way out.

Your work is greatly appreciated by way more than just myself. Let me take this time to again thank you for all the work you selflessly do on behalf of an ungrateful community. I still havn't figured out why you are doing it.

That being said, that doesn't buy you a ticket to screw everything up (without getting called out for it.) If you think your dynamic pvp system is doing anything other than aggravating a whole community while protecting those who don't and won't pvp, then the hubris of this project has already overtaken you and all is already lost. I knowing this, have not and will not stop speaking truth to power as I have always done.

If you don't think forum censorship is happening, then you are less attuned to the goings on of your project than you would like for everyone to believe.

CENSORHIP IS KING ON THIS FORUM AND IS PROVEN AROUND 5 TIMES A DAY. All i did was make a point to Guinea and everyone came out of the woodwork to congratulate me. Apparently i stumbled onto a sore spot with your community, despite whatever you would spew out of your mouth to try and convince the gullible of anything different. The examples are expansive, daunting, numerous, over-taking, voluminous and they are everywhere if you can find them fast enough before they are deleted by your forum NATZIS.

More importantly they are based on hard concrete FACTS and are PROVEN despite your lies. Why else does everyone agree?

You might have better luck if you can explain to your inept staff the difference between the two words, faggot and homosexual, instead of running down those who point out these faults? 1. FAGGOT 2. HOMOSEXUAL. I suspect you are having trouble with this yourself as your staff sure is. Faggot is a slang term for homosexual that infuriates homosexuals. Homosexual is a scientific term to scientifically describes a faggot. Homosexual is an accepted and expected word that those who wish to describe this curious condition must use as this is the only acceptable word for all parties.

Learn it and live it. Whatever you do, don't try to come at me on the internet until you learn the difference. Otherwise you will look more dumb than you already do trying to take on the PVP Superstar.

You can't dismiss valid claims with mere lip service. No one is listening to you anymore. Wasn't it 6 months ago that you went to VZTZ and crapped on Keegan and said you were hosting vztz from now on? That was 6 months ago, I never saw VZTZ under your tutelage ever. No one listens to you anymore bro. They are only watching your actions.

Your actions show that while you are a talented and smart man, you still have alot to learn about human psychology and interaction. If you didn't, the pvp community would not have had to explain to you that this is a pvp server and as such there will be alot of fighting going on. To discourage that, as well as hardcode rules to discourage that is disengenuous and makes you look ignorant.

Also, if you wanted for everyone to believe that you are altruistic with this project and that you are above censorship of other's ideas, it would probably be wise not to threaten those people on the forums when they point it out.

Especially when it's so darn obvious to EVERYONE.

Please don't ban me for telling you the truth to your face. If you do, you will have proven everything i said and more.

Again, thankyou for your time and energy. If you can't tell, I am excited about this project that you have undertaken and wait breathelessly on it's results. I just know, if i don't speak up now, it will be too late for everyone later, wether i am allowed to play or not.

Macken
10-10-2011, 09:32 PM
lol when people use the 'everyone' argument to support their psyco-freaking-pathetic ramblings.

Here's something to ponder mr. logic man:

In order for your post to be accurate, I'd have to agree with you, and since I think your a complete ingrate low intellect entitled idiot who doesn't make any sense whatsoever, your post is incorrect

WoW is ----> that way. Don't kick the door on your way out.

u mad?

Envious
10-11-2011, 03:21 AM
TL:DR.

Rogean is beast. He said "***** please" in a thread.

Also, Macken is a fag. I havent seen Macken (By name) on beta.

And I think he went "no training" in the PnP threads... that makes him fag^2.

Thats fag squared for you math flunkies.

Envious
10-11-2011, 03:22 AM
Fuck emoticons.

And I dont like Pig mod... a total pain in the ass, and as I have said, the PvP forums need a different mod.

We are a little more hostile, vocal, and... profane, than the rest of the forums.

Softcore PK
10-11-2011, 03:24 AM
the PvP forums need a different mod.

We are a little more hostile, vocal, and... profane, than the rest of the forums.

Well knock it off! :P

Envious
10-11-2011, 03:43 AM
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Envious
10-11-2011, 03:44 AM
<iframe width="960" height="720" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_6wzsIh93qc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

<iframe width="960" height="720" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_6wzsIh93qc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Read you can only embed on RnF now... which explains why I couldnt in the other fucking thread. But, going to use this as a testing spot to do it. So... sorry for shitting it up!

Envious
10-11-2011, 03:45 AM
Eh fuk it, not getting it to work and dont care that much.

Please continue. Lol

casdegere
10-11-2011, 08:19 AM
Being outspoken is ok, boasting about oneself is ok, making a general statement about the server is ok but grievous insulting of another person is NOT ok in a general forum. There IS a place to be an ignorant and infantile jerk. Why this is even an argument is idiotic. If they don't like what your doing, don't do it. Continue to do it and you will get suspended or banded. What else is there to know? If you want to play and post, abide by the rule or GTFO. This is not YOUR server or forums. You have NO entitlement here. None, zipo, zilch, nodda, that's right you are NOTHING. You mean nothing to these guys. They are doing all this for the server and the people that seem quite capable of following their rules. Stop sh**ing on this in an obvious attempt to get everything pulled down to your satisfaction which I can promise you NO ONE is interested in.

Aadill
10-11-2011, 08:36 AM
It's okay, PvP will solve everything, bros.

Envious
10-11-2011, 10:04 AM
Being outspoken is ok, boasting about oneself is ok, making a general statement about the server is ok but grievous insulting of another person is NOT ok in a general forum. There IS a place to be an ignorant and infantile jerk. Why this is even an argument is idiotic. If they don't like what your doing, don't do it. Continue to do it and you will get suspended or banded. What else is there to know? If you want to play and post, abide by the rule or GTFO. This is not YOUR server or forums. You have NO entitlement here. None, zipo, zilch, nodda, that's right you are NOTHING. You mean nothing to these guys. They are doing all this for the server and the people that seem quite capable of following their rules. Stop sh**ing on this in an obvious attempt to get everything pulled down to your satisfaction which I can promise you NO ONE is interested in.

You should be a cop. Cause you sound like a douche.

guineapig
10-11-2011, 10:25 AM
@Macken

If you are referring to stuff like this:


1. Leaderboard natzism by those in power.
2. Forum natzism by those in power.
3. Blue99 players are too soft.
4. The homosexualization of America is making us weak.
5. If you aren't keeping score, you aren't playing.



Had your post not included part 4 you would not have violated this:

Content which advocates against an individual, group, or organization

Google believes strongly in the freedom of expression, but also reserves the right to exercise discretion and protect AdWords advertisers.

Google ads aren't permitted on content that may be construed as biased against individuals, groups, or organizations based on criteria such as race, religion, disability, sex, age, veteran status, sexual orientation, gender identity, or political affiliation. Additionally, Google ads may not appear on content that exists solely to demean or dehumanize people, as such sites may be interpreted as negative or offensive.

However, websites containing academic or historical content related to such subjects are permitted to participate in AdSense.

taken from:https://www.google.com/adsense/support/as/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=105947&topic=30293

That is why that particular post was deleted, not because of your opinions on PvP... I could care less either way about PvP arguments.
Basically you broke a Google AdSense policy rule and your opinion on sexual orientation effecting the state of the nation is not worth us loosing our ads over. Have a nice day.

Macken
10-11-2011, 07:51 PM
However, websites containing academic or historical content related to such subjects are permitted to participate in AdSense.





Justice Scalia: Religious Schools Should Have A Special Right To Anti-Gay Discrimination
By Ian Millhiser on Sep 26, 2011 at 3:20 pm

In a speech at the historically Catholic Duquesne University School of Law, conservative Justice Antonin Scalia urged the university not to stray from a religious identity hostile to gay and lesbian students:

“Our educational establishment these days, while so tolerant of and even insistent upon diversity in all other aspects of life seems bent on eliminating diversity of moral judgment — particularly moral judgment based on religious views,” Scalia said.

As examples, he cited attempts to sue a religious university in Washington, D.C., for offering only same-sex dorms and other attempts by a law school association to bar schools that discriminate against homosexuals.

“I hope this place will not yield — as some Catholic institutions have — to this politically correct insistence upon suppression of moral judgment, to this distorted view of what diversity in America means,” Scalia said.
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There. That solves that. You are now a website with both Academic and Historical content. Now you won't have to be a amoral lackey for google anymore.

Besides, what i said was not the least bit untrue or demeaning or dehumanizing. What i said is an unassailable and undenyable fact. Homosexuality is weakening America as an academic and historical fact. If we were all homosexuals because it was that good of an idea, after 35 years we would die out as a nation. Everyone who can understand the science of procreation and fertility rates such as someone who works at the UN or a 11 year old girl who just found out about the birds and bees can understand this fact.

Your forum policy of bigotry against those of religious backgrounds is hypocritical to say the least.

But i digress. We both know this academic and historic fact of weakness was not why you censored that and other posts. If that was the case then you would have censored the posts with the word effeminate in them.

I believe you are equipped with the intelligence to perform the job you have been tasked with. You obviously have ulterior motives. I fully understand that if I were to call for a vote of no-confidence against Defender Guinea, the senate would fracture and there would be further weakness at a crucial time in developement. For these reasons, I wish to rest my case here. And may events be fortunate for Guinea.

Harrison
10-11-2011, 07:57 PM
Macken still crying? Just ban the kid already.

tbox
10-11-2011, 09:36 PM
Or it could be the horrible economy.

Aenor
10-13-2011, 06:10 AM
Also, the delay of R99 Patching and Launch is 90% simply due to the fact that I have a very busy job IRL. I have gotten little to no free time in the last several weeks, and the little time I do get, I try to spend creating this server for your benefit, not mine. After working Mon-Fri last week, I went into work on Sat at noon, and didn't get home until 2 AM this morning, only to go back to work at 8 AM.

Rogean brew, scroll wheel is your friend. Don't get griefed by the fail trolls. ;)

Darksinga
10-13-2011, 12:23 PM
The future of Macken is in doubt.

while advocating non-classic changes such as yellow text and leaderboards in another.

I'm pretty sure there was a leaderboard for Sullon Zek... so...?

It was just online if I recall correctly.

Macken
10-14-2011, 11:31 AM
Even teachers keep score.


http://www.keepingscore.org/education

Macken
10-15-2011, 02:32 AM
Keeping score of old scores and scars, getting even and one-upping, always makes you more than you are.

Macken S. Forbes

Grahm
10-15-2011, 02:49 AM
wait, macken is gay?

Macken
10-15-2011, 09:46 AM
1. Are you smarter than R99 staff?
2. Are you smarter than a 1st grader?
3. Not keeping score is un-American.
4. Do you want the Swedes to take over?


'When we first started not keeping score, we had hate letters coming in telling us we were un-American," says Harrison program director Mike Book. "One guy was so mad, he said, 'There are winners and losers in life, and the kids need to learn that.' But these are first-graders. They'll learn soon enough."

Macken
10-15-2011, 10:02 AM
Van Auken says that's why Little League requires coaches to let every child play every game and why scores aren't kept in the tee-ball league for 5- and 6-year-olds. By age 8, though, he says children are ready for both instruction and the experience of losing.

"We see no ill effects from having a Little League World Series," he says.

A game may end with children in tears. "But we also see that 15 minutes after the game, the kid that struck out and lost the game is upstairs playing pingpong in our rec room with the kid from Japan who struck him out and won the game."
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See? Can play ping pong afterwards. No need to be scared.

Macken
10-15-2011, 10:05 AM
" I’ve lost plenty of times, I’ve cried my eyes out losing championship games, but life moves on and in my defense, I learned valuable lessons. I have learned to lose and I have learned the game better. Most Importantly I learned what parts of my game I needed to improve on."
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It's for your own growth. Learn from your failures bros.

Macken
10-15-2011, 10:08 AM
Last night(repeat today) on the Daily Show, Christina Hoff Sommers whose latest is "One Nation Under Therapy" and previously "Who Stole Feminism" claimed that Little League baseball in Massachusetts doesn't keep score anymore. Jon Stewart asked her if this was anecdotal or the norm. She said it was prevalent. I live in Massachusetts and am not aware of any Little League baseball towns and cities that do this. Is anyone familiar with this? Or is this just the right wing fanatics making it up again.
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Ultra right wing Neo-Natzie's taking over America. Do your part to save America.

Thou Score. Thou Score often. Thou keepeth it.

Macken
10-15-2011, 10:15 AM
"During the fall I have noticed this was the case for some soccer leagues, then I saw it popping up in basketball leagues, and then baseball leagues as well. I think we are doing a true disservice to today's youth if we think we are protecting them from something, by not keeping score of these games.

Life is full of wins and losses, and I don't mean on the athletic field. If someone earns a promotion at work, that's a win. If a promotion goes to someone else, that's a loss. If someone falls in love and stays married for the rest of their life, that's a win. If someone gets married and then has to get divorced, that's a loss. My point is that I learned how to appropriately deal with a win that I earned, or a loss that I suffered becuase of my youth sports experience.

I learned that as a person you are more respected when you win if you do it with class and a quiet humbleness. Conversely, I learned that you are more respected as a person when you lose if you can sincerely congratulate the winner without feeling an ounce of envy, but still have a buring desire to win at the next encounter"
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Some of you have alot to learn....and alot of growing up to do.

VanEyck
10-16-2011, 08:51 PM
Nice penta-post. By the way, Macken and all these other drunken "bro" posters should be thanking Rogean every single day that they even get to play. This is why global OOC is a bad idea. I want to be immersed in a fantasy world, not a mental health clinic.

Macken
10-17-2011, 12:14 AM
You suggest the community should eat shit and thank the chef?

Rogean's emu world is better than shit, but you get the point right?

VanEyck
10-17-2011, 01:48 AM
Better than shit? If by shit you're referring to every other emulated box out there, then you would be quite right. You are from VZ/TZ aren't you? A shame that it's not around anymore, keeping the dogs at bay.

Macken
10-17-2011, 09:32 AM
I knew it would be over your head.

Convict
10-17-2011, 01:06 PM
Macken getting worse at trolling by the hour. :( Unimpressed

Aadill
10-17-2011, 01:41 PM
Go PvP about it bros.

Macken
10-17-2011, 01:50 PM
Nice thread title change.

The truth hurts.

Apparently.

casdegere
10-17-2011, 04:21 PM
stop crying over every naughty word somebody uses on a message board

You want to talk like an animal, do it in R & F where it belongs. Not sure whats so difficult to understand. I can understand that you may cuss like a sailor but..your typing...you CAN control it or GTFO. Moan and cry about it all you want...here if you need to. Make arguments about it, post 1000 times about how your being oppressed.


*holds back of hand to head and manages to let a tear rest upon cheek* "I'm being singled out because (nazi this and nazi that) I use fowl and inflammatory language on a gaming forum (insert guinea insult here) and the moderators are threatening me with suspension. (insult nilbog here) All my life's work.everything I stand for is being suppressed." *shudders* "I...I don't think I can go on like this." (Here is the part where you swallow the barrel and pull the trigger...my favorite part)

Macken
10-17-2011, 06:58 PM
^ confused moron alert.

casdegere
10-17-2011, 07:34 PM
^ confused moron alert.

The only one confused is you and your cronies....apparently. You were told not to do something so naturally you do it and then change everything around to try to justify why you did it..why you should be allowed to do it by attacking others. Basic BS 101.

Macken, take a break, you don't have to be a prick everyday of your life.

Harrison
10-17-2011, 08:44 PM
To be fair.

GP is pretty useless.

Harrison
10-17-2011, 08:44 PM
(That doesn't make Macken any more right, or less of a retard, though.)

Macken
10-17-2011, 09:13 PM
Both of you are confused. Harrison already knew that though.

All i did was point out the inconsistentcies, the embellishments, the falsities, and the general backwardness.

I also witness criticism of staff and their actions mysteriously disappearing time and time again, as if by magic - followed by staff denials.

I point out that words like faggot and homosexual are not the same.

Nuances like that are not discernable by the moderators and as such, they have been pegged as ignorant and unqualified by those who watch over the pvp community.

Posts that have not broken any staff rules are deleted, and out-right edited - even thread titles.

Everyone considering playing here should have a clear un-edited vision of the staff before they spend their time here.

I for one judge them to be good enough. But that is not going to stop me from trying to make this place better. If that takes a few harsh words... then so be it... i shouldn't have had to say anything in the first place.

Macken
10-17-2011, 09:32 PM
As far as the thread title being changed, I wish it were true.

I wish there were scoreboards to defend. As long as the staff doesn't mind adding in things they want that have nothing to do with classic, there isn't a good reason to not put in a leaderboard, points and YT.

Besides, SZ had a leaderboard from day 1. In other words a leaderboard is SZ classic.

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10-17-2011, 10:34 PM
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Tyen01
10-17-2011, 10:38 PM
nazi 100% confirmed possibility

casdegere
10-18-2011, 07:50 AM
Macken, post less, play more is solution.

casdegere
10-18-2011, 07:52 AM
Complaining, baiting and repeating offenses are not going to get GP removed as a mod. The sooner you stop your tirade and get back to playing the happier you will be.

Aadill
10-18-2011, 09:26 AM
Macken, post less, play more is solution.

If he keeps getting suspended the first portion of this statement will be possible.

This is not Post vs Post this is Player vs Player.

Cwall
10-18-2011, 01:32 PM
i thought that it was self-evident that guineapig is retarded

Macken
10-18-2011, 06:37 PM
cas is more confused than anyone i have seen in the last few weeks.

Guinea, as bad as he is, would probably be replaced by someone worse. If you were 1/10th of the way to my level, you would already know this.

If you follow these facts to conclusion, you now know you are an idiot who has no clue what it is I am doing on these forums.

This post was to argue for a leaderboard. As an aside, I was teasing Guinea for being trigger happy on censorship considering I said nothing that should have been censored. I also pointed out that some posts that are censored are critical of the staff and those seem to be mysteriously censored the most, while other posts with the word "faggot" in them but with no GM criticism magicly are left alone.

I am not advocating the removal of Guinea or even the removal of any staff. I am merely pointing out the inconsitencies when they particularly are set against good ideas such as: ffa 6-50 free trade pvp, leaderboard, no rules except no training. And of course no hacking. (I added that last one, because you have to add that in if blue players are playing. Red players already know this)

Cast
10-18-2011, 07:56 PM
toasting epic bread

Macken
10-18-2011, 10:36 PM
http://books.google.com/books?id=WHRvTEXFZJ8C&pg=PT143&lpg=PT143&dq=not+keeping+score+is+weakening&source=bl&ots=_8N9PRypax&sig=3tLWioUezUDzCauIQcYHV29o45A&hl=en&ei=KDaeTtqiENOy0QGt4aSYCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAA#

Here is a link to an interesting study done by the National Research Council.

The title is:

Keeping score for all: The effects of inclusion and accomodation. It is long and will challenge some of your aptitudes.

For those of you who are fidgety or have short attention spans, or cannot seem to comprehend its meaning, let's just say it's not good to accomodate or include weaklings or pansies or those that otherwise wear panties when playing EQ.

Macken
10-18-2011, 11:40 PM
Book Review: Andrew Breitbart’s Righteous IndignationMovie Review: Thor the Mormon →The Scandal of Keeping Score
Posted on June 23, 2011 by Patrick Belfast

Yesterday, my five-year-old son played his second soccer game. At his first game, I asked the coach who won. There was a cold, awkward pause, and then he informed me that everyone is a winner. I still asked him who won, and he wouldn’t tell me, but he did want to communicate that I had committed a “faux pas,” which is a kind of loosing. I wont belabor the point that this philosophy of not keeping score is bad for Western Culture. The other nations of the world are keeping score, and for that reason, they know the West is losing. But there is one small ray of hope. During the game last night, I saw a small rebellion on the team. My son, with one of his five-year-old teammates were sizing up the game. Quietly one said to the other, “I think the score is two/one, they’re winning.” The other replied, “No. One/one. I think we’re tied.”

Last night was a blow out. My son’s team won, which encouraged them, since they had lost badly two nights before. You could see the kids stand a little straighter.
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Boys becoming men about it.

Won't you join them?

Macken
10-18-2011, 11:47 PM
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Not keeping score in kids' games: Good or Bad?

Everybody has heard that some cities have stopped keeping scores in children sports. Like, they don't keep score in flag football or tee-ball or something like that. They think it will make the kids feel better about themselves for not losing.


My take is that: Bill Gates realized when he was young that he couldn't hit a fastball and because of that, turned to other things (computers) and now he's an 80 billionaire. Maybe if they didn't keep score, the other kids wouldn't get mad at him for stinking up the place, and he wouldn't have quit playing.
What do you guys think about it?
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Wow.

Get on this guy's level.

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10-18-2011, 11:47 PM
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keeping score builds character and that competitive drive to succed. not keeping score teaches kids nothing. it makes then pussies for lack of a better word. what's the point in playing if there is nothing to win or lose?

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10-18-2011, 11:59 PM
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wtf....


For the vast majority of children who play these sports, the aspect of greatest value provided is character development. Accepting winning and accepting losing are important parts of life, but the winning or losing, in of itself, has no value. OK, your kid misses a perfect scoring opportunity at the end of the game that would have tied it up. As a parent, what do you say?

You should help your kid learn and grow from these experiences. Especially the negative experiences. That you get better at things by learning from people who are better than you - in sports, that involves playing with, or better yet, playing against, people at a higher skill level. And that you can't win every time - nothing works that way.

Learning these lessons in the context of a GAME, where the ramifications of failure are nil (unless a dumbass parent is somehow involved), is ideal. The score itself will not harm children. The reaction of some parents to the score is what does that.

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Learn and grow from your negative experiences. Learn from those who are better than you.

You won't beat me. It doesn't work that way, but you can hold your head high because you didn't quit and you kept score.

Macken
10-19-2011, 12:23 AM
The evidence is mounting.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7353/11225702020bigbuddhaons.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/11225702020bigbuddhaons.jpg/)

It must be acknowleged.

There is peace, tranquility and positive well being in keeping score. Can't you see it?

ivosik
10-19-2011, 12:56 AM
kew kew fest up in here, come at me hoes

Grahm
10-19-2011, 05:00 AM
KEEP IT UP MACKEN YAY. I LOVE TALKING TO MYSELF TOOOOOOOO.

fucking weirdo

Aadill
10-19-2011, 08:27 AM
Occupy P99

Aadill
10-19-2011, 08:50 AM
with really shitty posts.

Macken
10-19-2011, 10:48 AM
Learn and grow bros.

Learn and grow.