Keep Global OOC After Launch

[Doors]

Please and ty

[Cast]

lol awesome sig doors

I VOTE A RESOUNDING YES!!

I agree with title, and as such I will reciprocate by including it in MY SIG. I can respect a great campaign when I see one. I'll include this as your campaign HQ. Good luck, Gov'na

[Cfullard]

Cast, when you see the stupidity that is in OOC.... just no... trust me... it's awful.

[Doors]

Theres no reason to not keep it. Server pop will hover around 150-250, hopefully more, but with a playerbase that small global OOC basically a must.

P99 also had global OOC until it got huge. Wasn't around to see it but heard from others.

[Vile]

I like global OOC.

Should be moderated imo...

[Cwall]

wtb global ooc and yellow text

[Palemoon]

Cast, when you see the stupidity that is in OOC.... just no... trust me... it's awful.

x2

[Not_Kazowi]

Keep global ooc if the pop stays below 300? Then take away if it hits above that? I'm game either way y'all.

[Scribbles]

keep it o god

[Wonton]

brings the community together with yellow text and global ooc

[Cast]

Been hearin big things about this Wonton fella who hails from bluebie land p99. Keep doin big things bro, eying a spot for you on the court with the pros. LMK bro.

[Zigfreed]

Lose it, maybe.

[Joerosion]

Get rid of it. For the love of god. Such idiotic rambling and shittalking going on ALL. DAY.

[SearyxTZ]

Keep it


people who don't like it can easily filter it off. Doesn't work the other way around though (if you remove it)

[mimixownzall]

Global OOC is fkin retarded. If you keep it, I think it would turn people off from the server. The only people who want it are the drama queens who like to see themselves type.

Global OOC consists of this:

Douchebags bragging about their basketball skills.
Douchebags responding to said basketball skills with their basketball skills stroking eachother's e-peens.
Bigger douchebags discussing their drug habbits.

[Palemoon]

It really takes away from the immersion, having a hard time logging in and getting "into" character/the world with all the crap scrolling by.

Get those bugs reports in, you no lifers that are already in your 30's, so beta can end and /ooc with it. I'm ready to get into my "real" toon.

[Muaar]

no global occ or yellow text. id see global ooc before yellow text though..

[Rogean]

No.

[Vile]

No.

All hail the Overlord Emperor.

[Nimblerot]

It really takes away from the immersion, having a hard time logging in and getting "into" character/the world with all the crap scrolling by.

Then TURN IT OFF. Seriously, if you don't like global ooc its really really simple to filter it so it doesn't appear. There, you have your stupid immersion (aka sitting in a zone with only a few, if any people to talk to) and everyone who wants a global channel has it. I would understand people not wanting it in if you had to keep it on, but you don't so this argument boggles my mind.

The only logical argument against global ooc is that it isn't classic, which unfortunately carries a lot of weight here.

[Drieddead]

Please and ty

two words for yah doors

NOT CLASSIC!

[Softcore PK]

Global ooc is terrible.

[pojab]

if only there were some way to opt out of ooc if you dont want to hear it. OWAIT

[Softcore PK]

We shouldn't have to limit our ability to communicate because you want global chat..

[Nimblerot]

We shouldn't have to limit our ability to communicate because you want global chat..

Man I hear you, typing /shout instead of /ooc is so crazy hard... you're right, you definitely need two channels to communicate with people inside your zone. Plus, red text is so scary lol!

[Softcore PK]

By turning ooc off, we cannot read anything said in that channel.. obviously. That would put those of us who opt out of it at a disadvantage. Global chat makes GFay trading unnecessary, cheapens the experience of a massive world and it's abused.

[Tumdumm]

been hiding ooc in a chat box behind my other chat boxes
i enjoy life so much more because of that

[Nimblerot]

So people shouldn't have access to something because you might miss out on information you voluntarily opt out of, and it also removes the need to sit in one zone on a low pop server and hope that someone happens to be logged in selling/buying the item you need/want. Sounds terrible!

[Doors]

I don't get why project1999 had global OOC forever and we won't be getting it? the f.

[Softcore PK]

So people shouldn't have access to something because you might miss out on information you voluntarily opt out of, and it also removes the need to sit in one zone on a low pop server and hope that someone happens to be logged in selling/buying the item you need/want. Sounds terrible!

I signed up for classic EQ. It's fine that you want an easier MMO, but that's not what Project 1999 is about. You had VZTZ, and I'm sure that was a wonderful experience for you. What I'm looking for though, is what Rogean seems to have in mind. He got Blue99 right, let's see how Red goes :)

[valithteezee]

Immersion > OOC

[Nimblerot]

I signed up for classic EQ. It's fine that you want an easier MMO, but that's not what Project 1999 is about. You had VZTZ, and I'm sure that was a wonderful experience for you. What I'm looking for though, is what Rogean seems to have in mind. He got Blue99 right, let's see how Red goes :)

A logical person would say that compromises need to be made for a server that will have a population of a few hundred prime time emulating a game made for a few thousand prime time. Project 1999 works because its a blue server with 3-4 times the population we will have.

If we end up getting as many regular players as project 1999, then by all means turn it off. But driving the server into the ground because you don't want to compromise on a few things in the spirit of keeping it classic is just dumb.

[Softcore PK]

A logical person would say that compromises need to be made for a server that will have a population of a few hundred prime time emulating a game made for a few thousand prime time. Project 1999 works because its a blue server with 3-4 times the population we will have.

If we end up getting as many regular players as project 1999, then by all means turn it off. But driving the server into the ground because you don't want to compromise on a few things in the spirit of keeping it classic is just dumb.

How can you be so sure global ooc would save the server from dying? I could just as easily say that global ooc is going to kill the server because a large percentage of the playerbase would feel alienated/disgusted/bored by the conversation that goes on there. No one wants to hear, "If you don't like it just turn it off."

[Nimblerot]

How can you be so sure global ooc would save the server from dying? I could just as easily say that global ooc is going to kill the server because a large percentage of the playerbase would feel alienated/disgusted/bored by the conversation that goes on there. No one wants to hear, "If you don't like it just turn it off."

You could say that, but I think you can logically deduce that a large, empty pvp server with a population max of 300 instead of the intended 2000 with no global chat is more likely to push people away than a chat option you can filter on and off at your disposal. P99 works without it because it has a larger playerbase and no pvp.

But the entire point of this post was to keep it in to test out how it works. You don't like it so you're making up every argument you can against it. I don't particularly care for reading some of the crap that is said there either, but I think it's at least worth looking in to.

[Softcore PK]

^circular reasoning

[Nimblerot]

Just turn it off bro.

[vinx]

I think you can logically deduce that a large, empty pvp server with a population max of 300 instead of the intended 2000
2000?? wow

[Nimblerot]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest

"Multiple instances of the world exist on various servers. In the past, game server populations were visible during log-in, and showed peaks of more than 3000 players per server."

Pvp servers were never as popular as blue ones, hence why I undercut it. Sup bro?

[vinx]

I just find it funny that you are expecting 2000 players for R99 when P99 at kunark launch didnt reach 2000

[Nimblerot]

I just find it funny that you are expecting 2000 players for R99 when P99 at kunark launch didnt reach 2000

K now you're definitely trolling. NO ONE is that retarded.

[Doors]

ROGEAN HOW CAN YOU DENY YOUR PEOPLE THESE GREAT FEATURES?

http://i56.tinypic.com/dr6q05.jpg

[Humerox]

Only problem with OOC is that it's mostly retards using it.

[Silikten]

yeah, no global ooc, yes yellow text

[naez]

yeah, no global ooc, yes yellow text

I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request.

[Biffins]

I require global ooc so that I can see when redtards refer to themselves as big and proclaim that they are doing big things 100 times per day.

[bwe]

At least on beta the population is so small that a lot of zones would be completely dead without global OOC. Global OOC makes the game at least feel more populated.

[pasi]

No.

Any chance of having chat channels enabled if no global ooc?

[nilbog]

No.

Not sure why you guys think the server will have a small population. The beta has lots more people than p99 did.

[naez]

the tears are not as tasty w/o ooc 9/10 trolls agree

[Scribbles]

nilbog confirmed fedder + kser i carry team but he feds so i insta die

[mimixownzall]

A logical person would say that compromises need to be made for a server that will have a population of a few hundred prime time emulating a game made for a few thousand prime time. Project 1999 works because its a blue server with 3-4 times the population we will have.

If we end up getting as many regular players as project 1999, then by all means turn it off. But driving the server into the ground because you don't want to compromise on a few things in the spirit of keeping it classic is just dumb.

LOL @ turning off global OOC ruining the server population.

[dusk883]

I was against global ooc at first... last night was hilarious.

[Hobby]

We already have global OOC...


its called MIRC...#red99

[gloinz]

i like global ooc

[Diggles]

mirc is weak pidgin ftw

[Doors]

No.

Not sure why you guys think the server will have a small population. The beta has lots more people than p99 did.

So you agree then that the red players are better overall than the blue?

<3

[SearyxTZ]

Then TURN IT OFF. Seriously, if you don't like global ooc its really really simple to filter it so it doesn't appear. There, you have your stupid immersion (aka sitting in a zone with only a few, if any people to talk to) and everyone who wants a global channel has it. I would understand people not wanting it in if you had to keep it on, but you don't so this argument boggles my mind.

The only logical argument against global ooc is that it isn't classic, which unfortunately carries a lot of weight here.


^agreed. Takes five seconds to filter it off or on, but I digress.

OOC is the one chat channel that actually makes sense to have be global. Shout and Say - you would expect to be zone specific and relevant to "immersion".

It seems like the only people complaining are doing so because it is on for them by default. So if you have it off by default, doesn't everyone get what they want? The neckbeards who want immersion have /shout + peace and quiet, and the basketball players can turn on OOC to talk some trash.

Thoughts? A compromise would be smart here because otherwise you're basically disappointing half the playerbase.

[Mardur]

No.

Not sure why you guys think the server will have a small population. The beta has lots more people than p99 did.

To be fair, p99 beta had like 5 people because no one knew about it until it released and got huge.

[Palemoon]

^agreed. Takes five seconds to filter it off or on, but I digress.

OOC is the one chat channel that actually makes sense to have be global. Shout and Say - you would expect to be zone specific and relevant to "immersion".

It seems like the only people complaining are doing so because it is on for them by default. So if you have it off by default, doesn't everyone get what they want? The neckbeards who want immersion have /shout + peace and quiet, and the basketball players can turn on OOC to talk some trash.

Thoughts? A compromise would be smart here because otherwise you're basically disappointing half the playerbase.

I was going to try and answer you and give reasons why its a horrible idea, especially on a PvP server, but it sounds like it wont be happening so i'll just say:

No, Not Classic.

[Family Mexican Restaurant]

Thoughts? A compromise would be smart here because otherwise you're basically disappointing half the playerbase.

The people who populate OOC with their garbage are the people I couldn't care less about playing red99, much less being disappointed.

It's not classic. It ruins immersion. It's rarely helpful. And it's full of utter trash and attention whores textually masturbating while regurgitating every dead meme ever and insulting one another with black jokes.

Compromise? How about an opt-in only channel that all those clowns can join.

No global OOC.

[SearyxTZ]

Compromise? How about an opt-in only channel that all those clowns can join.


Pretty much what I posted (sans the rage), so I agree. Both sides are happy this way.

[gprater]

as long as there is not a cap on the ignore list i say keep it...Ive seen some very useful info the last few days, but there are some extreme idiots using it as well. Much kmore so that when p99 has global ooc

[Smedy]

global ooc, don't give a shit about it anymore tbh, however zone wide yellow text, fuck yes.

[Softcore PK]

^agreed. Takes five seconds to filter it off or on, but I digress.

OOC is the one chat channel that actually makes sense to have be global. Shout and Say - you would expect to be zone specific and relevant to "immersion".

It seems like the only people complaining are doing so because it is on for them by default. So if you have it off by default, doesn't everyone get what they want? The neckbeards who want immersion have /shout + peace and quiet, and the basketball players can turn on OOC to talk some trash.

Thoughts? A compromise would be smart here because otherwise you're basically disappointing half the playerbase.

I don't want ooc, and it's not because it's on be default. Global ooc would kill GFay trading, as everyone would be able to auction anywhere and everywhere. Lots of people, I'm sure, see this as a good thing. But I want classic EQ, and this was a big part of it. Beyond that, global ooc would also affect pvp. If it was off by default, and only basketball players used it, they would have a considerable advantage over everyone else.

There really is no compromise. Either you include a global channel, in which case pretty much everyone has to use it (auction channel, pvp) or you don't.

[Convict]

global ooc, don't give a shit about it anymore tbh, however zone wide yellow text, fuck yes.
I agree with big smedy here. I could care less for global ooc, it's mildly humorous at times but often filled with garbage. I wouldn't mind YT at this point.

[Nimblerot]

I don't want ooc, and it's not because it's on be default. Global ooc would kill GFay trading, as everyone would be able to auction anywhere and everywhere. Lots of people, I'm sure, see this as a good thing. But I want classic EQ, and this was a big part of it. Beyond that, global ooc would also affect pvp. If it was off by default, and only basketball players used it, they would have a considerable advantage over everyone else.

There really is no compromise. Either you include a global channel, in which case pretty much everyone has to use it (auction channel, pvp) or you don't.

Really, you love the concept of sitting in a zone for hours on end hoping someone who's buying or selling the item you have/want shows up on a server that will be lucky to have half the pop of p99? Really? Because it's SO fun to sit there and do nothing but hit an auction macro every minute for 4 hours with no result. It's so fun they should just make their own game out of it.

It's not a big deal if there are enough people to be constantly sitting in a zone that a lot of items are available, but between the lower population and pvp being enabled, most item trading will be done on the forums if there is no global chat anyway.

Also, exactly how is global ooc an advantage in pvp? Any group of people who are pvping will communicate via group/guild chat or vent, and if you can't figure out that there is pvp going on in your zone without global ooc you're pretty dumb. It's usually a big hint when a bunch of people zone in at once with the same guild tag, and they're probably not going to announce themselves in /ooc. So what exactly are you missing out that is giving other people this "huge pvp advantage"?

[Palemoon]

Its a huge advantage in PvP for those that will turn the global OOC channel on.

How long of a list do I need to make to show you that the comeatmebros useing /ooc will have a HUGE advantage from everything from pvp, to tradeing, to organization of multi guild zergs/raids over the immersion crowd who wont use it.

So then, to compete, even the immersion roleplayers will have to join it, and then we just have 2011 style barrens chat 24/7 in our p1999.

No thanks, plz trade your ******/faggot jokes in IRC and leave the game alone.

[Nimblerot]

How long of a list do I need to make to show you that the comeatmebros useing /ooc will have a HUGE advantage from everything from pvp, to tradeing, to organization of multi guild zergs/raids over the immersion crowd who wont use it.


Yeah... people are going to use a global channel that everyone can see to organize pvp against people who can... also see the channel...

You say you can make this huge long list, yet no one has. Any time anyone is confronted about coming up with valid reasons, they end up saying "well people are dumb" or "it isn't classic". Also, if you really need to trade and think that global is the only way it will be done, you could probably suck it up and turn it on for a few minutes to do your trading.

[Nirgon]

There's an auction forum. People rolling and insta logging due to ooc is no good.

[Harrison]

I require global ooc so that I can see when redtards refer to themselves as big and proclaim that they are doing big things 100 times per day.

[Nirgon]

Stop trolling the Emp.

[Rushmore]

global ooc, don't give a shit about it anymore tbh, however zone wide yellow text, fuck yes.

We need a Fuck Yes YT zone wide video going bro. We need the support of the proletariat!

[Knuckle]

we need some yellow text zonewide or idgaf just make it happen. global ooc on launch, may as well the pop. is low and it makes it more fun.

[Palemoon]

we need some yellow text zonewide or idgaf just make it happen. global ooc on launch, may as well the pop. is low and it makes it more fun.

No, chestbump in your IRC when you kill someone.

Keep it Klassic.

[Sorath]

Classic Smashhtikkkk , Grow some hair on your ballz and be men YT IS NEEDED FOR PVP SERVER . If you disagree you are either A. A RETARTED MONGOlOID B. A blue noob that has never PVPD and has no say in the matter in the first place. B. YOU HAVE BITCH TITS aka gynomastia ... PICK ONE.

GOOODDDD you noobzz qq so much im sharpening my E BLADES and blessing them with fine minerals so they may slay the blue bloods and make the rivers run red. REDRUM

[Aesop]

Screw this global ooc business. zonewide YT is cool though, I enjoy it.

[Harrison]

Classic Smashhtikkkk , Grow some hair on your ballz and be men YT IS NEEDED FOR PVP SERVER . If you disagree you are either A. A RETARTED MONGOlOID B. A blue noob that has never PVPD and has no say in the matter in the first place. B. YOU HAVE BITCH TITS aka gynomastia ... PICK ONE.

GOOODDDD you noobzz qq so much im sharpening my E BLADES and blessing them with fine minerals so they may slay the blue bloods and make the rivers run red. REDRUM

This is the type of illiterate, inbred, mongoloid that supports global YT. (which is not classic and been stated 100% not going in multiple times)

[Aesop]

Although you have to admit it really lets people know you are killing people in the zone which kinda messed up solo ganking in big zones.

[Sorath]

This is the type of illiterate, inbred, mongoloid that supports global YT. (which is not classic and been stated 100% not going in multiple times)


And when this type of illiterate, inbred, mongoloid Slays your pixels I will delight with a cackling howl then thick mucus like jizz will flow from my body as I hump your dead corpse in delight and joy.

[Harrison]

200-300 people were on opening night.

# of times I've died to another player, with my name out in the open, and not hiding from pvp? 0

I'll die, but I sure as hell won't cry about it like you guys do about EVERYTHING

Waaah, no experience rate increase.
Waaah, pets don't zone.
Waaah, spells cost X.
Waaah, fucking waaah.

[Sorath]

harrison shouldnt you be searching for a sergeon to remove your gyno

[Nixus]

Keep.

[Nirgon]

Rant thread if I ever saw one.

[Nimblerot]

200-300 people were on opening night.

# of times I've died to another player, with my name out in the open, and not hiding from pvp? 0

I'll die, but I sure as hell won't cry about it like you guys do about EVERYTHING

Waaah, no experience rate increase.
Waaah, pets don't zone.
Waaah, spells cost X.
Waaah, fucking waaah.


You whine more about people whining than the people who you whine about whine.

[Akim]

Good idea if done right.
For f--ks sakes' don't implement it unless you can make it optional.
Channels?

[Nirgon]

Completely disabled. It will function as the global trade channel, which means if you want to trade you have to read retarded shit all day.

[Arillious]

I guess in the end I'm pretty indifferent about it and can see the pro's and con's. Global ooc does alter the classic experience however. 1 person tipping off the entire server that guild_01 is on the move really eliminates the element of surprise. Surprise is one way a smaller guild can compete with larger guilds. If a larger guild is tipped off and is waiting at the zone line instead of being engaged with NPC's, then the smaller guild loses an advantage. When in doubt... keep it classic.