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dunevenker
09-29-2011, 02:18 PM
Greetings!

I never really played on a pvp server on live back in the day other than a few days with my brother, but I would hardly count making it to level 15 or so as "playing".

My question though, stems from something else, as my lack of experience on pvp servers is about to show through.

I wanted to start on Project99 when it launched but was unable to do so and I initially started about 8 months before Kunark launched, having missed out on opportunities like Manastones and DE Masks, etc.

With Red opening "fresh", I will have the opportunities to do so, but I also want to play a Cleric this time around.

My question though, is it worth it? Would it be worth playing a Cleric and achieving these goals on such a server before the items vanish? Or would I be ganked repeatedly and never achieve my goals? Is there some kind of "Don't kill the Cleric, because he won't ever rez you" stigma?

I am not opposed to pvp, but we all know EQ pvp isn't exactly balanced. With that in mind, I have no qualms with dieing, but I do just want to pve for the most part and obtain the items that I never got to get from ages past.

Thank you for your useful input!

Eldaran
09-29-2011, 02:20 PM
I think a lot of people would love to have a Cleric following them around honestly.

Oh and you will get ganked no matter what class you are but you have a level 1 blind spell. Use it to run away.

Crenshinabon
09-29-2011, 02:23 PM
Clerics are pretty great. Later levels you might notice its harder to kill people due to MR based nukes, but your heals are the best so some classes have a really tough time taking you down. Also any group will want a cleric.

Spud
09-29-2011, 03:04 PM
With their heals, DA/DB, blind, root/gate clerics are one of the hardest classes to kill I think.

Nirgon
09-29-2011, 03:09 PM
Know your role (it isn't getting all the kill shots) and you will appreciate it. You only get better with more resist gear. A non-boxed cleric is supremely useful, and I imagine there won't be many clerics.

dusk883
09-29-2011, 03:11 PM
Assuming MR is working half as intended, and with noone running around with any real MR, Clerics should be able to wreak havoc in solo pvp with no issues. Add to that your survivability and laughing off 1vs1 nukes... Divine Aura for the suckers who will blow a third of their mana into it... you should have a great time IMO.

Eldaran
09-29-2011, 03:12 PM
Assuming MR is working half as intended, and with noone running around with any real MR, Clerics should be able to wreak havoc in solo pvp with no issues. Add to that your survivability and laughing off 1vs1 nukes... Divine Aura for the suckers who will blow a third of their mana into it... you should have a great time IMO.

Cleric is my first love and I'll most likely play as my main when Red 99 goes live.

Spud
09-29-2011, 03:13 PM
I leveled up a cleric up to 50 on Rallos Zek during classic. It wasn't bad at all, just don't expect to master be PK guy for obvious reasons. Clerics are always in demand even on PvP servers, you will probably be more likely to get a DE mask going with a cleric because you will get groups easily, especially in Lguk. Plus you will have Invis versus undead which rules in Lguk.

cured
09-29-2011, 04:29 PM
Clerics are pretty great. Later levels you might notice its harder to kill people due to MR based nukes, but your heals are the best so some classes have a really tough time taking you down. Also any group will want a cleric.

Yup. At higher levels its just "ok spend your mana. You done? OK cheal now what you wanna do? Run? OK well I can't really kill you so fuck off."

dunevenker
10-02-2011, 11:38 PM
Thank you all for your input. Much appreciated.

I am curious though, being "red", will heals act differently than on "blue"? In this regard, I mean, will heals not work on players not in my group or something to that affect? Or can I cast anything on anyone at any time?

Next question I have is, are there any predictions as to how cutthroat the server will be? Will I be going back to my corpse so often that i'll just log off, or will people actually be willing to group and be somewhat cohesive and productive? As I said before, I have no qualms with pvp and always being on the alert, but I do have plans to make friends and do stuff, if possible.

P.S. I plan on making a list of everyone who kills me, therefore negating any plans to ever resurrect them.... ever.

Softcore PK
10-03-2011, 12:25 AM
I'd group with you, OP :D

So long as you're elf. We can kill orcs and gnomes forever! <3

Rushmore
10-03-2011, 12:47 AM
Cleric owns!!! I'm new to it. Was coached at the position. I normally play Shooting guard. Who's gonna kill you? Gonna take 5 people and you being far from the zone line.

bwe
10-03-2011, 01:01 AM
which of the wis casters cler dru sham is the best pvper?

Rushmore
10-03-2011, 01:03 AM
which of the wis casters cler dru sham is the best pvper?

can't go wrong with any one of those picks.

Billbike
10-03-2011, 08:27 AM
Glad to have you. Always recruiting a few good players. Just accept the fact that there are griefers, but the majority are good people.

Try not to get mad. It's not going to be easy.

Prahadigm24
10-03-2011, 10:07 AM
Assuming MR is working half as intended, and with noone running around with any real MR, Clerics should be able to wreak havoc in solo pvp with no issues. Add to that your survivability and laughing off 1vs1 nukes... Divine Aura for the suckers who will blow a third of their mana into it... you should have a great time IMO.

Not really. Clerics should have a high survivability indeed, but in classic it was tough to win a 1vs1 WHILE UNTWINKED (!). Cleric nukes were very expensive in terms of mana cost and much worse than mage, wiz and necro nukes (for obvious reasons). You had a hard time to kill another player before running out of mana - at least with the standard mana pool.

Haven't tried a cleric on P99 though. But spell dmg/mana cost and low melee dam output should be classic, so I guess it's the same here.

bwe
10-03-2011, 10:22 AM
can't go wrong with any one of those picks.

thats what i thought ty

Maelzai
10-03-2011, 01:00 PM
Don't clerics get bash as well? or was that a VZTZ thing?

If you are a cleric trying to kill someone with nukes you are wasting alot of mana. You are better off meleeing ppl down and just healing yourself. Clerics are one of the best pvp classes for grp pvp. If you have a clr and enc all you need in dps and you win for the most part.

Softcore PK
10-03-2011, 01:22 PM
Cleric bash came during luclin :/