List of classic things VZTZers have qq'd about so far:

[Lazortag]

-spell pricing
-experience rate
-lack of soulbinders
-spell research
-(lack of) Global ooc/yt
-the game being hard
-etc.

I guess all you "hardcore" pvpers just couldn't handle classic like everyone predicted!

[Harrison]

I've seen more crying in OOC that first night in 3 hours than I've seen in years.

[fiegi]

awsome post

[Softcore PK]

You won't hear us softcore pkers crying about those things :P

[Lazortag]

I've seen more crying in OOC that first night in 3 hours than I've seen in years.

too true finawin, too true.

I forgot to add the lack of shared bank, target rings, maps, as well as not being able to cast selo's indoors.

[Harrison]

"WHY DOES MY PET DISAPPEAR WHEN I ZONE INTO CB?!?!?! I AM SO EASILY GANKED AT ZONELINES NAO"

[Softcore PK]

Harrison, are you gonna make Red99 your new online home? :)

[Ravenlof]

wheres the yellow text ?

[Terpuntine]

You forgot no hacks allowed... Wtf we gonna do.

[Diggles]

i had someone cry to me because i ran into the caster guild in FP after he ganked me.

for some reason he didn't think he could go in there.

[Harrison]

In classic, he wouldn't have been able to kill you in there with proper faction assistance.

[Diggles]

no, he was telling me that the pad wouldn't teleport him

he didn't try, but yeah.

[Diggles]

I was sitting at the receival pad and just staring at him while casting burst.

[Titanuk]

i cant take this xp rate. god halp me

[Diggles]

10000% increase

let my note turn in level me to 10 and give me 1k plat kthx

[Tajin]

-spell pricing
-experience rate
-lack of soulbinders
-spell research
-(lack of) Global ooc/yt
-the game being hard
-etc.

I guess all you "hardcore" pvpers just couldn't handle classic like everyone predicted!

you should play ez server bro.....

we all know going into the server that red99 was going to have p99 xp rate. So if u dont like it play take ur QQ elsewhere.... Only thing the server needs it itemloot!

[Diggles]

what

[fiegi]

Tajin aka freeze struggles with reading comprehension to say the least... lol

[Morninx]

Red99 will turn into Blue99 2.0

What creates a good pvp server is the community of players on the server. Theres a reason why I always played the vztz servers and not the project99. The aspect of everquest i enjoyed the most was the pvp combat, not the PvE. Project99 gives a great reenactment of what everquest was like on a blue server back in 1999-2000. What comes with that is the grind of leveling and satisfaction to finally getting level 50 or so and gearing up so you can make a new character and start the long process all over. PvP players do not want that long process. They want a challenging process but one that will lead to spending more time with PvP combat instead of PvE, hence the purpose of the server. If the live version of red99 is ten time harder to level then the current beta. The server will only attract the players who already play project99 and enjoy that long grind experience. Those that enjoy just fighting it out with each other instead of some mob that cant talk shit back will not waste their time. The community on red99 will be enjoyable for those that want to create bonds while leveling and progressing through the game, and thats cool why not just do it on project99? but us hell raisers, i guess we will go somewhere else. Maybe i just dont get it but if going to create a pvp server, shouldnt the focus be on pvp?

[Bazooka]

Red99 will turn into Blue99 2.0

What creates a good pvp server is the community of players on the server. Theres a reason why I always played the vztz servers and not the project99. The aspect of everquest i enjoyed the most was the pvp combat, not the PvE. Project99 gives a great reenactment of what everquest was like on a blue server back in 1999-2000. What comes with that is the grind of leveling and satisfaction to finally getting level 50 or so and gearing up so you can make a new character and start the long process all over. PvP players do not want that long process. They want a challenging process but one that will lead to spending more time with PvP combat instead of PvE, hence the purpose of the server. If the live version of red99 is ten time harder to level then the current beta. The server will only attract the players who already play project99 and enjoy that long grind experience. Those that enjoy just fighting it out with each other instead of some mob that cant talk shit back will not waste their time. The community on red99 will be enjoyable for those that want to create bonds while leveling and progressing through the game, and thats cool why not just do it on project99? but us hell raisers, i guess we will go somewhere else. Maybe i just dont get it but if going to create a pvp server, shouldnt the focus be on pvp?

Im probably one of the highest level CLR on the beta.

I have killed 15 ish people......

No reason you cant PvP inbetween/while grinding

[Morninx]

All i was saying is some people want the classic PvE experience and project 99 obviously delivered that beautifully... But there is a healthy population that want the everquest pvp experience... why not create a server that serves directly to that? I know bluebies hate it, but on a pvp server, faster experience/yellow text/ and global ooc really isnt that bad. it is actually a lot of fun. killing orcs for 20 hours.. been there done that..

[Bazooka]

All i was saying is some people want the classic PvE experience and project 99 obviously delivered that beautifully... But there is a healthy population that want the everquest pvp experience... why not create a server that serves directly to that? I know bluebies hate it, but on a pvp server, faster experience/yellow text/ and global ooc really isnt that bad. it is actually a lot of fun. killing orcs for 20 hours.. been there done that..

Yeah the server you're talking about has never been done...

Oh yeah, it has like 10 times and always fails :confused:

[pasi]

It's not like you're not able to PvP until level 50. None of the VZTZ boxes have offered a PvP experience that wasn't 'Avoid all PvP until 50, get geared, level a buff bot, then PvP.'

I'm looking forward to low and mid-level PvP since we haven't had it since EQ was actually a relevant MMO. I can't imagine why everyone is so eager to get back to the same end game scenario that has been played out time and time again. Zones like SolA, Unrest, Blackburrow, Highkeep, and UGuk are actually going to see some action. Enjoy the fucking ride, faggots.

[Morninx]

Bazooka they failed due to poor GMs. Rogean showed he can handle his own and all the talk doesnt matter anyway cause he is gonna do what he wants.

Pasi i get your point but again pvp servers should be a pvp focus experience not a pve one.. sure you can pvp while grinding, hell you can turn on your own group and attack them.. but if a someone wanted to grind then they should play project1999 blue.

[Softcore PK]

PvE is in many ways the reason to PvP. Did our time on live pvp not count because we had to exp?

[Bazooka]

It's not like you're not able to PvP until level 50. None of the VZTZ boxes have offered a PvP experience that wasn't 'Avoid all PvP until 50, get geared, level a buff bot, then PvP.'

I'm looking forward to low and mid-level PvP since we haven't had it since EQ was actually a relevant MMO. I can't imagine why everyone is so eager to get back to the same end game scenario that has been played out time and time again. Zones like SolA, Unrest, Blackburrow, Highkeep, and UGuk are actually going to see some action. Enjoy the fucking ride, faggots.

+1

[Morninx]

That experience isnt gonna go out the window just because the experience is accelerated.. It is just more fun pvp fighting for plane of fear and dracoliche than crushbone and the orc trainer.

[Wonton]

-(lack of) Global ooc/yt
!

FREE THE YELLOW TEXT ROGEAN!!!

[Aesop]

lord knows why you ever played EverQuest

[Diggles]

that's why if a bluebie transfers they should stay blue until they tome.

no rest for the bluebies that destroyed their tome

[Autotune]

that's why if a bluebie transfers they should stay blue until they tome.

no rest for the bluebies that destroyed their tome

Hail, Priest of Discord.

[Civeal]

that's why if a bluebie transfers they should stay blue until they tome.

no rest for the bluebies that destroyed their tome

can always get a new one at the PoD

[Diggles]

disable that, ofc.

[Autotune]

disable that, ofc.

i'll be sure to grab a tome before transfers then.

[Diggles]

you can be my bluebie ho

we can do bluebie stuff together

[Autotune]

you can be my bluebie ho

we can do bluebie stuff together

i played for an hour on r99 and got insanely bored of the grind. Not wasting my time grinding just to buy some spells to pvp with and it all end up getting wiped.

[Morninx]

ur all looking to mid level pvp till a group of naked mages and wizards destroys your "group" while you are grinding on blue cons, then cant exp for the rest of the day/night

mid level pvp is really retarded, none of you know what ur talking about

+5 for reds

[Nixus]

It's not like you're not able to PvP until level 50. None of the VZTZ boxes have offered a PvP experience that wasn't 'Avoid all PvP until 50, get geared, level a buff bot, then PvP.'

I'm looking forward to low and mid-level PvP since we haven't had it since EQ was actually a relevant MMO. I can't imagine why everyone is so eager to get back to the same end game scenario that has been played out time and time again. Zones like SolA, Unrest, Blackburrow, Highkeep, and UGuk are actually going to see some action. Enjoy the fucking ride, faggots.

qft

[klant]

-spell pricing
-experience rate
-lack of soulbinders
-spell research
-(lack of) Global ooc/yt
-the game being hard
-etc.

I guess all you "hardcore" pvpers just couldn't handle classic like everyone predicted!

im classic vz and ya i bitch about xp rate. I was ok with it back in the day because i was like 12 years old and had time to waste xping and actually enjoyed it. Now that my dick grew I just want to pvp, don't want to pve grind all day, would rather spend time pvping. I understand it's part of the game and you can get into some epic group pvp fights over camps but serriously.. normal xp rate too slow (expecially with pvp xp loss), doesnt have to be x10 but something nice.
And pasi I understand your point, some of my favorite pvp was back in unrest and crushbone, but you can always make low lvl pvp alts. You will expereince that pvp as you lvl, but normal xp rates will keep you in these zones so long with gank groups and pvp xp loss.

[Dalem]

IMO group pvp is fun at all levels and with slower exp it'll keep players in many ranges longer which is a good thing. If you make the exp too fast then noone will waste time pvping during the leveling process which will significantly detract from atmosphere. Plus I like both pvp and pve equally and I'm sure the majority of players share that sentiment so a server just for pvp would only cater to the minority.

[Knuckle]

warrior pvp is exactly the vztz strategy, fucking grind to 50. dont get me wrong, swinging for 10 dmg every 5th swing is fucking intense pvp watching trolls 8 levels lower than me regen my hits before another swing lands, but it's pretty obvious im gonna be playing diaperquest for 50 levels.

[Nirgon]

Should be 20 with 2hander