View Full Version : Team pvp not FFA
Matalus
09-28-2011, 10:38 PM
Team pvp is needed to start a server like this.
People need somewhat of a safe spot, including trades/sales/transfers/afk spot. You'll be seeing tons of people sitting at bank entrance just waiting for someone to come near otherwise.
FFA is fun but there is a reason why the teamed pvp servers on live were the most populated and successful
Team pvp is needed to start a server like this.
People need somewhat of a safe spot, including trades/sales/transfers/afk spot. You'll be seeing tons of people sitting at bank entrance just waiting for someone to come near otherwise.
FFA is fun but there is a reason why the teamed pvp servers on live were the most populated and successful
Rallos was more populated?
Log out if you need to afk?
Get a friend to transfer for you?
l2p
Lazortag
09-28-2011, 10:42 PM
I think the staff is concerned that team pvp is bad for dispute resolution. What if two allied guilds want the same mob?
Billbike
09-28-2011, 10:46 PM
Teams? Oh like in WoW?
No thanks.
FFA.
Sorath
09-28-2011, 10:46 PM
ffa is the ony way to play, team play go blue server
Doors
09-28-2011, 11:15 PM
I've just been loving all these bluebie suggestions that roll out on this board every hour or so.
SO
FUNNY.
Thulack
09-28-2011, 11:18 PM
I've just been loving all these bluebie suggestions that roll out on this board every hour or so.
SO
FUNNY.
gonna be interesting to see how much actual PvP takes place considering you guys cant even muster 300 people on a server that you can box on. Hope all the redbies love being alone.
Rallos was more populated?
Log out if you need to afk?
Get a friend to transfer for you?
l2p
this, rallos zek was better
Softcore PK
09-28-2011, 11:32 PM
I really enjoyed the softcoded teams on VZ and TZ. A real team system like wow or SZ wouldn't be as fun though imo :(
Bazooka
09-28-2011, 11:33 PM
gonna be interesting to see how much actual PvP takes place considering you guys cant even muster 300 people on a server that you can box on. Hope all the redbies love being alone.
ALOT of people are not playing because its beta, so keep your doomsday predictions to yourself.
Diggles
09-28-2011, 11:46 PM
I think the staff is concerned that team pvp is bad for dispute resolution. What if two allied guilds want the same mob?
/guildwar
bakkily
09-29-2011, 12:28 AM
id rather have ffa, but for instance, im not going to while on beta or when the real pvp server is up, wont kill my swamp brothers, and bazookas a douche, had my lvl 5 monk trying to kill a lvl 3 monk, which i did indeed suck at it, but then this douce bazooka a lvl 12 cleric kept chasing a lvl 5 monk myself for hours, and this mage who was also lvl 5, ass wipe, kill people lvl 9+ douche!
Diggles
09-29-2011, 12:40 AM
bakkily can't handle red
go back to blue, bloo.
Bazooka
09-29-2011, 12:45 AM
this douce bazooka
I am a confirmed douce.
Also didn't chase your for hours.
Aenor
09-29-2011, 12:49 AM
I agree patch in bazaar imo.
Billbike
09-29-2011, 09:07 AM
gonna be interesting to see how much actual PvP takes place considering you guys cant even muster 300 people on a server that you can box on. Hope all the redbies love being alone.
Welcome to the NFL/NBA, rookie.
Redbies: The few, The proud, The only EQ experience that matters.
Eldaran
09-29-2011, 09:16 AM
I actually really enjoyed the race war server on live, but i had a lot of fun on the red server last night for about an hour. leveled up and got killed by a necro. then went sneaking aroudn trying to kill snakes and then had to relearn how to get around Neriak. I noticed a lot of people such as Clerics asking other people like me to group with them so that they had a better chance to survive. Teams will be made of likeminded players, not hardcoded "can't kill these races" restrictions.
valithteezee
09-29-2011, 09:18 AM
Team FFA is definitely more fun but I don't think we have the population to support this. You still have options like team-oriented guilds only, roleplay/whatever.
Billbike
09-29-2011, 10:32 AM
The real teams will be the governing high end raid guilds, that have the majority of talented well geared characters. With them, will be their feeder guilds. The hate between these competing guilds will be the fuel r99 runs off.
dusk883
09-29-2011, 11:34 AM
I'll play whatever. I do prefer teams as a former team server player as there were some cool things about that. Bigger range for pvp for starters. Forced friendships, situations where a "fellow race" was getting jumped, it was almost duty to help him out. But whatevs, I do like that "rep" means more on a FFA.
Absynthe2k5
09-29-2011, 11:39 AM
Rallos was more populated?
Log out if you need to afk?
Get a friend to transfer for you?
l2p
Ya POK was alll cool for buffing ec but it created gate camps. Not only that but no lifes would make circuits of he best leveling areas wheras when no portals it took some time in between ganks.
Sullon was the beast and most populated. It wasn't till after Hate/Tides/BP wars calmed that folks moved to Rallos. (That and Devs allowed people t xfer to red which ruined Sullon)
Log if you need to afk for sure.
Always make friends or will die alot more.
PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW BLUE to RED XFERS. It will ruin the server guarenteed. I watched it happen to my beloved Sullon.
Palemoon
09-29-2011, 11:43 AM
I dont recall blue to sullon xfers. Sullon was merged before that went down I think.
What I do recall, and was another nail in the coffin of SZ, was people going to that "Legends" sever to get raid gear and then transfer back home to SZ.
That was pretty bad. (and I did it too ;))
dusk883
09-29-2011, 11:45 AM
Rallos was "most populated" but there were two healthy teams servers for years. Maybe Rallos had more people still while Tallon/Vallon were in its prime but it couldn't have been overwhelming or there would have been two Rallos type servers IMO. Rallos' 4 level pvp range was just too small IMO to gain the popularity that it might have been able to get.
With that said, I could care less what pvp ruleset we have, just glad to have the chance to play with some excitement again.
Rallos was more populated?
Log out if you need to afk?
Get a friend to transfer for you?
l2p
Saying 1 server had a bigger population than 2 separate servers is delusional at best.
Its kind of a double edged blade, teams servers dont really work unless theres a 1000+ person population, so you need a ruleset designed to work with less people. Problem is the only other choice is FFA which scares away a huge portion of people on the fence about playing on the server in the first place.
It has nothing to do with "l2p, get better, log when you afk", FFA pvp is just not as fun... simply put Rallos had half the server population than teams servers, the only sect of EQ players smaller than the FFA's were possibly the RP'ers (FV server).
Compounding the fact that gaurds dont even assist people being attacked into this equation what are we left with? a 24/7 gank fest, which people wont take seriously.
Which im sure will be what all the "hardcore RZ'rs" claim pvp servers were, but they werent - at all.
Nirgon
09-29-2011, 01:28 PM
Blue -> pvp
Legends -> Sullon / Rallos
Evoken
09-29-2011, 02:32 PM
Sullon for sure. Not digging FFA.
Nirgon
09-29-2011, 02:55 PM
Teams aka guilds.
Atmas
09-29-2011, 02:57 PM
I think the staff is concerned that team pvp is bad for dispute resolution. What if two allied guilds want the same mob?
End game guilds are usally comprised of more than one team.
Team pvp in EQ was awesome. It's stupid in a lot of other games because they have only two teams.
Titanuk
09-29-2011, 02:59 PM
teams are gay, quit trying little kids
OngorDrakan
09-30-2011, 02:04 PM
I'll play whatever. I do prefer teams as a former team server player as there were some cool things about that. Bigger range for pvp for starters. Forced friendships, situations where a "fellow race" was getting jumped, it was almost duty to help him out. But whatevs, I do like that "rep" means more on a FFA.
I like what you said. I've been pushing this on red99 with some other wood elves or ogres. Just invite to group and kill shit. Eventually yeah, if we fight we fight. Last night a Dorf tried to BS 3 wood elves. We would have taken him out, but the mob we were on was eating us and we wanted to not die. So I invited him and he joined us and we had a good little session. Maybe somebody can make another EMU server for PVP-Teams
Chronoburn
09-30-2011, 03:39 PM
Teams are awesome but you need a reasonably high population for this to work. If we somehow manage a steady population of 500ish people then maybe 2 teams would work.
juicedsixfo
09-30-2011, 04:19 PM
Just make some friends and defend your zone from intruders. Rallos Zek was basically Race Wars for the first year or so.
Maybe somebody can make another EMU server for PVP-Teams
Dear god the last thing this small community needs is another server to split the already dismal population.
Klyre
09-30-2011, 06:41 PM
Teams are awesome but you need a reasonably high population for this to work. If we somehow manage a steady population of 500ish people then maybe 2 teams would work.
Teams or not won't matter to me, personally I would't mind race teams instead of good and bad races. This would at least provide some teamwork while still allowing mass PvP for the small number of people on the server.
Barbarians
Dark Elves
Dwarves
Erudites
Gnomes
Half-Elves
Halflings
High Elves
Humans
Ogres
Trolls
Wood Elves
12 Teams
OK, OK not Clasic I know -give me a break. Doesn't mean it's not a viable idea.
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