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I appreciated the server, and can't wait for live - and appreciate all Rogean and team has done for us.
But I don't see what basement dwelling career virgin will find levelling to 50 and gearing up a toon not unreasonable currently on beta. I have around 11 hrs played and I'm level 16 - I predict it'll take roughly 6 days played to get to 50, and then who knows how long to get resist gear/level JC/do planes to actually gear the toon up. If this beta was to test mid level pvp then great, but I just don't see myself investing that amount of time to test high level pvp on a toon that will be wiped.
I said this in OOC and a lot of people disagreed, I wish I had the time to just throw away 10 days played into a toon to make sure resists and abilities are working properly.
Darwoth
09-28-2011, 08:14 PM
that sucks, i guess all of the personal invitations sent your way asking you to beta test the server were for naught =/
Doors
09-28-2011, 08:25 PM
They want to test all levels.
fiegi
09-28-2011, 08:44 PM
SALTY
Lazortag
09-28-2011, 08:46 PM
I appreciated the server, and can't wait for live - and appreciate all Rogean and team has done for us.
But I don't see what basement dwelling career virgin will find levelling to 50 and gearing up a toon not unreasonable currently on beta. I have around 11 hrs played and I'm level 16 - I predict it'll take roughly 6 days played to get to 50, and then who knows how long to get resist gear/level JC/do planes to actually gear the toon up. If this beta was to test mid level pvp then great, but I just don't see myself investing that amount of time to test high level pvp on a toon that will be wiped.
I said this in OOC and a lot of people disagreed, I wish I had the time to just throw away 10 days played into a toon to make sure resists and abilities are working properly.
So just don't beta test? The experience is modified to be ten times faster on beta so it's not like it's such a waste of time.. besides, how is this different from ANY OTHER RED SERVER on eqemu (in terms of inevitable wiping)?
If you want to test pvp with full resists and such, just wait until they allow character transfers. Plenty of people have high level toons from Blue99 with decent resist gear. If not, they can always group with my Bard and I can give them at least +83 to pretty much any resistance.
Dojii
09-28-2011, 10:52 PM
I predict it'll take roughly 6 days played to get to 50
wait till you get to the hell levels. 30, 35, 40, 45.
each of those is going to be no fun at all. very slowwwwwwww. xp.
oh and this;
The experience is modified to be ten times faster on beta
so really you would only be like level 5-8 right now. maybe less. once R99 goes live. the xp only gets shitter as you leve up too. but, your toons will not be deleted. this is a quality server and your investment will mean more to you. heh, if you make it past level 30. ;p
I don't mind the grind for the real server - just feel beta is too time consuming and slow, and not accomplishing what needs to be looked at - just imo.
Bazooka
09-28-2011, 11:16 PM
I don't mind the grind for the real server - just feel beta is too time consuming and slow, and not accomplishing what needs to be looked at - just imo.
Your the one developing this server so you know what needs to be looked at?
Pretty sure Rogean knows what he is doing.
Lazortag
09-28-2011, 11:37 PM
I don't mind the grind for the real server - just feel beta is too time consuming and slow, and not accomplishing what needs to be looked at - just imo.
The stuff that needs to be looked at will be looked at when they allow character transfers.
Yeah I mean why wouldn't you test classic pvp with kunark characters - good call Lazortag, thx for the post.
Lazortag
09-28-2011, 11:45 PM
Yeah I mean why wouldn't you test classic pvp with kunark characters - good call Lazortag, thx for the post.
I thought you were saying to test pvp with characters with good resists? doesn't really matter what level they are, but yeah kunark spells need to be tested too. Not everyone on blue99 is level 60 so some people will be transfering their high 40's/50's toons too. Some people will also be deleveling intentionally I assume.
"good" resists for kunark are not "good" resists for classic because... going to bed fuck it.
Diggles
09-28-2011, 11:54 PM
fear can't be cast on PCs. NOT CLASSIC, FIX.
jk i have no clue
Darksinga
09-29-2011, 12:01 AM
Your the one developing this server so you know what needs to be looked at?
Pretty sure Rogean knows what he is doing.
Being as Rogean has been asking the pvp community so much feedback on things, I'm pretty sure no one really knows what their doing, hence why we're in a beta testing things out.
Amuk is 100% correct regarding beta, I wouldn't mind the grind on live, but the xp needs to be x50 not x10, so we can get 50 in a couple days and test out shit at high end when it matters.
You could argue for the concept of pvping throughout the teens/20s etc, but NO ONE and I mean no one with their right mind wants to spend a week or so getting 50 on beta.
Thx Rogean for the hard work, but I'll be sitting on the bench till Live. The only things that need to get fixed for pvp are hit boxes really.
Diggles
09-29-2011, 12:03 AM
so we can get 50 in a couple days and test out shit at high end when it matters.
get on a bard and kite
you'll get there in a few hours
Sprinkle
09-29-2011, 12:04 AM
dont bother leveling on beta you will just be farmed by me anyways
Darksinga
09-29-2011, 12:06 AM
get on a bard and kite
you'll get there in a few hours
Why would I invest swarm kiting for say forty or so hours to get fifty when the beta might last two weeks.
The XPing doesn't need to be tested!
Here's an idea! Have people all locked at one specific level each and every day so you can test out the PVP not PVE! Say day 1 is level 10, day 2 is 20, etc etc... Until you test out every tier.
No one wants to grind on beta. Just an idea
Diggles
09-29-2011, 12:18 AM
you're a terrible bard if it would take you 40 or so hours to reach your desired level with a 10x xp increase.
Servers been out two days and top level is like a 31 druid, so I guess all the bards playing are terrible - this is besides any point and has nothing to do with anything though, pretty stupid thing to bring up in the first place TBH, "just roll a bard and swarm kite exp rate is fine durr"
Salty hasn't logged off and hes like 23, and that isn't even at hell levels and shit yet non-stop grinding. I haven't seen the 31 personally just heard rumors, so you're looken at well over 40 played hours to get 50, and it certainly doesn't feel like 10x the speed of p99, I have a 48 war from before kunark on p99.
Diggles
09-29-2011, 12:28 AM
if you think salty has been literally grinding non stop since the server launched fuckin' lol.
Darksinga
09-29-2011, 12:30 AM
Yeah I could log in and swarm the shit out of west karana, then south karana and easily pass up those dudes, but what's the point when the general populace is around level 10.
My post before stated that every one would be say level 20 or 30 or whatever so we could test out the PVP not the PVE
Most swarm kiting spots aren't going to work very well on PvP as one person jumping you is death or a reset. You can probably get away with it in EK, but the higher level spots are gonna be doom.
Bazooka
09-29-2011, 12:32 AM
Yeah I could log in and swarm the shit out of west karana, then south karana and easily pass up those dudes, but what's the point when the general populace is around level 10.
My post before stated that every one would be say level 20 or 30 or whatever so we could test out the PVP not the PVE
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Galacticus
09-29-2011, 01:45 AM
Two posts about this so I'll post in both.
Just wait a week or two when people hit hell levels. Everyone can solo till 20.
Wait till the hardcore grinders get 50 and all they do is kill level 42s because there is no point to gear up.
Wait till server transfers happen and everyone who doesn't have a high level char quits because they are 30 and some dude and his lvl 38 he just transferred over, who didn't spend the last 3 weeks leveling on a new server with rusty weapons makes them lose xp they worked hard for.
The only people who will be left are the hardcore grinders trying to stay ahead of the crowds or the trolls who got no lives and live to troll.
Neither of which will spend the time or even care to give good and actual fair feedback.
These are the guys who will take noted on exploits instead of reporting them so they can use them on live.
Darksinga
09-29-2011, 01:51 AM
Two posts about this so I'll post in both.
Just wait a week or two when people hit hell levels. Everyone can solo till 20.
Wait till the hardcore grinders get 50 and all they do is kill level 42s because there is no point to gear up.
Wait till server transfers happen and everyone who doesn't have a high level char quits because they are 30 and some dude and his lvl 38 he just transferred over, who didn't spend the last 3 weeks leveling on a new server with rusty weapons makes them lose xp they worked hard for.
The only people who will be left are the hardcore grinders trying to stay ahead of the crowds or the trolls who got no lives and live to troll.
Neither of which will spend the time or even care to give good and actual fair feedback.
These are the guys who will take noted on exploits instead of reporting them so they can use them on live.
/thread
sums up all of my views perfectly
canardvc
09-29-2011, 04:22 AM
SALTY
Salty is sleeping now, sorry. For 72 hours.
Lazortag
09-29-2011, 11:02 AM
"good" resists for kunark are not "good" resists for classic because... going to bed fuck it.
..Are you illiterate?
I thought you were saying to test pvp with characters with good resists? doesn't really matter what level they are, but yeah kunark spells need to be tested too. Not everyone on blue99 is level 60 so some people will be transfering their high 40's/50's toons too. Some people will also be deleveling intentionally I assume.
All bolded, underlined, and italicized parts are what you should read. Not everyone on blue99 has a level 60 character, so people will be able to transfer high level characters. Also, when transfering is allowed they will probably allow people to petition to be leveled up (I know they allowed this on kunark beta). In other words, you're complaining about something very silly because you can't level up fast enough as the easiest solo class in the game with 1000% experience. Seriously.
Moreover, kunark pvp needs to be tested too! Eventually this server will see Kunark, did you ever think of that?
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