when you loot someone in pvp you should be able to see their lotos

[Not_Kazowi]

like when you loot a npc corpse, when you slay someone all you do is kneel down for a half second and get their coin, i wanna see their loots bros make it happen please

[gloinz]

mayb post this in bugs naw mean

[Eldaran]

yes definitely more lotos to look at

[nilbog]

This was done intentionally so players can't keep you off your own corpse.

[Arillious]

This was done intentionally so players can't keep you off your own corpse.

This isnt a huge issue but I like to take a look at someones gear after I kill them. I like to see what type of gear my competition is wearing.

[Eldaran]

This isnt a huge issue but I like to take a look at someones gear after I kill them. I like to see what type of gear my competition is wearing.

maybe a second right click could bring up the regular inspect window like it normally does on blue 99?

[Doors]

Great change.

[Knuckle]

Can't we implement like a 10 second window to look at their loot at least? This is weaksauce.

[Vile]

Yea raping their gear with your eyes after you kill them is very satisfying..

[naez]

more like link all to ooc

[Mardur]

Who cares what gear they had?

[Knuckle]

We do.

[boss]

if they dont want thier own corpse locked they can just /corpse it, stop coddling

[Justown]

totally need to be able to see their loots.

[Chronoburn]

I care.

[Not_Kazowi]

take this change off please, its not hard to get someone off your corpse. just /corpse it away from them.


seeing someones loot is part of the glory of winning a pvp fight

[Nirgon]

This was done intentionally so players can't keep you off your own corpse.

You can /corpse it away from them. This was classic.

[Rogean]

It wasn't done to keep players off the corpse, it was done simply because you have no need to be able to see their items. Working as intended.

[Nirgon]

No need vs what was classic Big Dog, I see what you're defending here. The purist in me frowns.

[Vile]

It wasn't done to keep players off the corpse, it was done simply because you have no need to be able to see their items. Working as intended.

What do you mean no need?

If I kill you.. I'd like to know what kind of resist gear/random shit you were equipping.

It can also hint other shit.. say X mob was killed and now we see Y playing wielding Z loot.

w/e br0z.

[Softcore PK]

Do we still have to right click their corpse to loot their coin? My only concern would be that coin loot is automatically awarded on kill, which would not be right imo.

[Rogean]

This is a Coin Loot Server.
We did not say there would be any item loot so why would you see items on a corpse.

/boggle

[Softcore PK]

It was really satisfying for me on VZ to look at some people's loot. Taking down a hardcore raider solo when you're casual and undergeared is great, and it's made that much better with a screenshot of me looking at all the raid gear on their corpse.

[Nirgon]

This is a Coin Loot Server.
We did not say there would be any item loot so why would you see items on a corpse.

/boggle

Emp, can I call you Emp? With the utmost respect and only to point out what was classic, you could see what people you killed were wearing on non-item loot servers. Poking through their stuff was part of the amusement.

It also may serve you to have this in place so players can help point out who suddenly and over night ends up with full diamond/blue diamond etc.

[Rogean]

Which eqlive non-item loot pvp server allowed you to see a player's loot?

[pickled_heretic]

This is a Coin Loot Server.
We did not say there would be any item loot so why would you see items on a corpse.

/boggle

color me crazy but i think people want to see items because that's how it was on classic.

[Softcore PK]

Which eqlive non-item loot pvp server allowed you to see a player's loot?

All of them.

[boss]

All of them.

[Nirgon]

Yes, Emp. This is true. Forgive any annoyance this may have caused but it is for the greater good. There should be some treasure troves of screenies of players getting looted on coin loot servers. No doubt the Darkenbane site may have archives that still exist from both RZ and SZ.


color me crazy but i think people want to see items because that's how it was on classic.


If that's the case, you can color me ape-shit insane.

[Pudge]

This was done intentionally so players can't keep you off your own corpse.

who the fuck would do this? PK you then wait for you to return to your corpse still kneeling? bowing down ready and waiting to suck your cock as you begin casting spells on them??

even if they were out of range somehow like they were orange to you but are now blue, whatever.. just /corpse it away.

/corpse
/corpse
/corpse
/corpse
/corpse

--> no more problem

(FYI, you only need one /corpse.)

[Nirgon]

You're talking to my guy all wrong, it's the wrong tone.

http://solderingiron.ytmnd.com/

[Pudge]

seeing ppls items is fun!

it's part of the reward for killing someone

[Zigfreed]

Not that this is a democracy but I would also like to see the gear folks are wearing and by folks I mean on the one guy I'll eventually manage to kill. Man I suck at this!

[Pudge]

also on vztz there was a timer, corpses were only lootable for like 2 minutes after you killed them or something.. after that, it locked you out from looting, and forced you to get up off the corpse if you were still kneeling over it

[Rogean]

So if I log onto RZ on eqlive right now I'll be able to see what a player has on their corpse?

I find that hard to believe, in which case, no it is not all of them. Even if at a point in RZ's history you could see a player's corpse, I'm pretty sure it was during the time period you were actually able to loot an item off of it.

[Softcore PK]

I played on Vallon, and at the start of the server we had item loot. It was removed after not too long, and changed to coin only. I could still see their items.

Ask some TZ people, their server never had item loot. But I am 100% certain of this, Rogean.

[Arillious]

Which eqlive non-item loot pvp server allowed you to see a player's loot?

Vallon Zek certainly did. You could see people's gear when you looted their coins(Just like looking at a mobs loot) all the way up until I quit when ShadowBane came out. Like I said, this is more of a "Nice to have", and its classic.

[Nirgon]

100% boss man, its true.

Don't log into live, broseph. It's like finding out your uncle touched you when you were young, seeing what that game has become. The orc models... no... :(.

[Mardur]

So if I log onto RZ on eqlive right now I'll be able to see what a player has on their corpse?

I find that hard to believe, in which case, no it is not all of them. Even if at a point in RZ's history you could see a player's corpse, I'm pretty sure it was during the time period you were actually able to loot an item off of it.

Without wasting time looking for "proof" I can 100% confirm that on RZ/VZ/TZ when you killed someone and right clicked their corpse, their items appeared in the loot window and the coin automatically went into your inventory. If there was no item loot on the server you couldn't do anything further but look.

I don't get off on ogling the gear of someone I just killed, but different strokes I guess.

Have you guys tried the internet? They have this new thing called porn.

[Arillious]

I lost all my screenshots from eq, but here is one. I found it on DB's website. This is obviously after luclin... take peoples word for it that you could always see loot when looting a corpse you killed. You simply couldnt loot anything(Except coins which were looted automatically).
http://forums.darkenbane.com/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=36010

[Softcore PK]

^yes, and an insignia. This is SZ, no item loot.

[dusk883]

This was done intentionally so players can't keep you off your own corpse.

I'm missing something here. Never saw this or experienced this on Tallon Zek, and couldn't you just /corpse?

EDIT: ok, I read the followups... got it

[nilbog]

I didn't make the change. I assumed that's why it was done.

[dusk883]

I played on Vallon, and at the start of the server we had item loot. It was removed after not too long, and changed to coin only. I could still see their items.

Ask some TZ people, their server never had item loot. But I am 100% certain of this, Rogean.

All the way through POP, I remember this being the case on Tallon Zek. Even when it was just coin loot, we could always check out someone's dead corpse. Was a cool thing, I thought. Constant reminder that "back in the day we could pick one of these from his body!" ...

I don't feel its a big deal but would be great to have that again.

[Arillious]

All the way through POP, I remember this being the case on Tallon Zek. Even when it was just coin loot, we could always check out someone's dead corpse. Was a cool thing, I thought. Constant reminder that "back in the day we could pick one of these from his body!" ...

I don't feel its a big deal but would be great to have that again.

Its not a huge deal, but I would alter my strategy if I knew certain people wore different types of gear. The only way I'd know this is by killing them.

For example, if i knew someone had high MR gear, I may not try to cast magic based spells at them as much next time we engaged.

[dusk883]

Its not a huge deal, but I would alter my strategy if I knew certain people wore different types of gear. The only way I'd know this is by killing them.

For example, if i knew someone had high MR gear, I may not try to cast magic based spells at them as much next time we engaged.

Smarter than I was, that's for sure. I was more like, "wow, where does THAT drop? Never heard of THAT, time to check Allakazam"

[mimixownzall]

Which eqlive non-item loot pvp server allowed you to see a player's loot?

Sullon zek you could see their items. When you looted them the pvp token/coin auto appeared in your pointer; you didn't physically loot it from their inventory. You could kneel there and check out their stuff.

[Nirgon]

The next prize is to get the classic UI working and force it.

[pickled_heretic]

The next prize is to get the classic UI working and force it.

i'm not saying this in order to convince people to not go through it, and i'm not trying to threaten anyone by saying this, but

returning to the 100% original UI will cause me to not play this game anymore

[Nirgon]

Classic EQ hater.

[Knuckle]

This is a Coin Loot Server.
We did not say there would be any item loot so why would you see items on a corpse.

/boggle

this was a classic mechanic, you could view players items even if you couldn't loot, it's a fun factor thing and doesn't grief your opponent, no reason not to have it in place.

[john_savage1982]

Go classic or go home.

[Thulack]

This is a Coin Loot Server.
We did not say there would be any item loot so why would you see items on a corpse.

/boggle

See what happens when you give 150 people what they want. Nothing but grief in return. Red 99 will cause you more anger then good.

[Vile]

P99 Red Classic PvP not Classic bros

[Hovis]

Vile for prez!! =p

[Vile]

sup dude

[Autotune]

This is a Coin Loot Server.
We did not say there would be any item loot so why would you see items on a corpse.

/boggle
some possible reasons:

curious reds want to see loots for SS's

I suppose kinda like T-baggin someone in fps while they watch from their death cam.


/tell deadguy, 'Yo homie, i'm feelin up yo stuffz with my man fingaz! Btw, nice cloth cape, did you buy it at Walmart!?!? lololololol'

^ I imagine something like that?

[Nimblerot]

You could look at their gear, but the moment you tried to loot an item it would say something along the lines of "You cannot loot this item" and kick you off the corpse. Definitely a classic mechanic, I played on VZ pre-kunark and it was always like this.

It was a good mechanic so you could see what kind of gear they had resist-wise. Also makes for better pvp kill screenshots!

[Zigfreed]

There is also zero harm to you, the GM/Devs etc that I can see from letting us have the glimpse.

[Nirgon]

There has never been a blue post requesting a change, classic or otherwise. Let's not bring up cheating or pissing off the staff either.

[Humerox]

Normally you guys make good choices and I tend to agree with most of them.

This one I don't agree with. It's kind of like the /inspect feature. I just like to see what they had on...SZ was coin-only and you could see what they had on.

Locked down corpses were never an issue that I remember...because /corpse worked great...as others have said.

[Not_Kazowi]

Just make it so we can see their items, put a 2 minute delay and after it locks. It is a simple thing we are all used to and enjoy. Also change duck to interrupt spells IMO

[Nirgon]

change duck to interrupt spells IMO

Boy you had best have that in place

[Softcore PK]

Ducking to stop casting didn't work in classic, but I think it was added before kunark..

[nilbog]

Ducking to stop casting didn't work in classic, but I think it was added before kunark..

During velious actually. June 27, 2001.