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Shannacore
09-19-2011, 01:17 PM
So a friend and I started playing this over the weekend. Neither of us had previously played, and it was certainly a lot of fun. What's the strategy in creating your deck though? He was playing black/white while I was playing red, which seemed alright. We both pretty much had no idea what we were doing, but we were learning as the games went on. Our matches were definitely close (although he proceeded to win every single match except one), which makes me think his deck was just better..?

I D K, give me some nerdy tips on how you assemble your decks / play your cards. Is one color set obviously better than the other..? I bought a couple of packs of cards this weekend, going to try to put together an ub3r l33t deck this week. I need to be prepared for Thursdays games, giev tips ~ ~

mitic
09-19-2011, 01:20 PM
i played if for a month or 2 on ps3 and pc version...best deck is white imo

Shannacore
09-19-2011, 01:21 PM
Oooo, there's a ps3 version? That'd probably be good practice. Will look into ~

Red seemed pretty good, from what I saw. His white/black deck seemed almost OP to me. I played my first match with a green/blue deck and it was god-fucking-awful.

mitic
09-19-2011, 01:21 PM
magic 2012 is the newest version btw...since april or so

just blue is also powerfull, just need to play it defensively at start

returnofahipster
09-19-2011, 01:32 PM
obviously its a game that can easily be based off who has better cards. So like the way diablo 3 is going to be you can pay to have better stuff. I haven't played this game since like 7-8th grade but one thing we used to do to even the playing field is to both play with just a starter deck. This will make sure both people have a similar in strength but slightly different in strategy and play style. I would suggest that if your just trying to play for fun and not trying to play in like tournaments and such. Theres no clear color advantage its all based on the cards you have. You cant send a 14/14 card into play that requires 3 islands and 2 plains cards to tap if you have all swamp mana cards. Its an interesting game with a big learning curve, i've also noticed different people have slightly different rules when they play. its kinda like "house rules" in monopoly. My grandma bought be an original 1993 edition 1 set back when it first came out, never opened it, sold it a few years later for Alot more then she bought it for im sure. have fun playing! i'd like to start playing chess again myself.

Tumdumm
09-19-2011, 01:39 PM
hey folks,
i buy power & high-end foils, get at me! ;P

Harrison
09-19-2011, 01:40 PM
Get the PS3 version and I can school you/teach you when I actually get on the thing lol

I rarely play it these days and let it sit at my girlfriend's.

Ghosting
09-19-2011, 01:46 PM
Magic the gathering is a old but fun game. Deck creation varies from person to person and by how many different types of card u have. People with few cards tend to make mulit color decks for the sake of haveing more spells/creatures at their disposal. MTG has had an old rule about deck alliences. on the back of each card u will see the 5 colors in a pentagon shape. Neighboring colors in the shape have a better synergy while colors across from each other tend to be enemy's. not say u cant make a black/white deck or a red/blue deck it just they become a little trickier because they have counters vs each other. When it comes down to deck creation single color decks work the best. You don't have to worry about getting a specific type of mana for a certain creature color. but multi colored decks give you more verity in creatures and spells. Note each color has different advantages and disadvanages.

Long time magic player if u have more questions just ask.

Have fun!

Feachie
09-19-2011, 01:46 PM
Hum, mtg. I used to do type2 tourneys with my brothers back in the 90s.

First decide what you want your deck to do. A clear focus is key. As red you have lots of targeted destruct cards, spell dmg, and cheap creatures. For a new deck I start with 1/3 of the deck as land cards, then tune it by playtesting.

the fine details are more than can be explained here, you should hit some m:tg forums for their newbie pages. A firm grasp of the rules and game mechanics will help with deck creation so that youll better understand your decks strengths and weaknesses.

Tumdumm
09-19-2011, 01:56 PM
yo feach, if you used to play red t2 in the 90s, you would probably cry if you saw some of the overpowered stuff they added a couple sets back

like a 2/2 HASTE (uneffected by summoning sickness) goblin for just a single red mana?! wtf~!!!!
sure, its got a minor drawback, but who cares when you're rollin over people's faces in the first 4 turns of the game

but that just cycled out i believe

Stickyfingers
09-19-2011, 01:58 PM
So a friend and I started playing this over the weekend. Neither of us had previously played, and it was certainly a lot of fun. What's the strategy in creating your deck though? He was playing black/white while I was playing red, which seemed alright. We both pretty much had no idea what we were doing, but we were learning as the games went on. Our matches were definitely close (although he proceeded to win every single match except one), which makes me think his deck was just better..?

I D K, give me some nerdy tips on how you assemble your decks / play your cards. Is one color set obviously better than the other..? I bought a couple of packs of cards this weekend, going to try to put together an ub3r l33t deck this week. I need to be prepared for Thursdays games, giev tips ~ ~



Being someone who has played MTG off an on for about 8 years now, I would say he probably had a better deck than you.

Also, none of the colors are inherently better, although it would depend on the magic set you are playing.

Typically Blue = Control based, very much used to tap and untap, or effectively shut down your opponents offense.
Red = Burn spells, haste creatures, typically comes out fast and tries to finish you in a quick amount of time.
Black = Life steal, creature removal, discarding, similar to red in some ways, but is usually a mix of red and blue, strong creatures with a splash of control.
White = Typically very creature oriented, have some control, life gain etc.
Green = Pretty much creature based, has many sorcery's and instants that will pump your creatures or help you find land a lot of strong beaty creatures.

Obviously these are just broad types and you will find red cards that act like white ones or green or whatever and vice versa.

The strategy for building a deck I would give is starting off with two colors. Typically there are some classic pairings, Blue-Black, Red-Green, Blue-White. Many times though, colors are played solo, but usually in the cases of Black and White I would say.

Pick what colors you want to play and just try to focus on those types. Make sure you completely understand what they do, and just think about what your deck is trying to achieve, and does that card fit in line with your decks win condition.

Pro-Tip: Take your time on your turn and when your opponent makes moves. Make sure you leave no possibility uncovered, (Couterspell, permanent destruction, ect.) it is the worst feeling to make a mistake that essentially ends the game and was so incredibly simple!

Papaver
09-19-2011, 01:58 PM
start by totally ignoring any of the cards / sets made after 1995 so the game makes sense.

after you have a firm grasp on how the game is played up until that point, you will probably find that the sets released after that added many abilities that radically changed the game, in a bad way imo.

as far as what color deck, it depends on what your opponent is using. i'd definitely start out by building a deck of 1 solid color, paying attention to the rules for how many of the same card you can have per deck, and the ratio of mana (normally 60 cards, 20 of which are mana)

it can be a fun game around fun people. or it can be a really sickeningly boring game around people that sleep with anime characters on their pillows.

Galanteer
09-19-2011, 02:03 PM
Often MTG gets criticized as being a game won by the richest player (or player most willing to spend money on the game). My gaming group uses a shared pool of cards and often we play random decks.

The colours a well balanced, but some of the cards are not.

Best way to build decks is to practice and experiment. You can also look through tons and tons of decks on the Internet to see how they were made.

There is an official mtg sight for pay to play, as well as a few emulators for free play. The original computer game (around the same age as EQ) had one of the worst AI I have ever seen.

There is also a site for a template to print cards on stickers to paste on the front of regular cards (since MTG never made blanks)

The last 6 months or so, we have been pretty much playing the Deluxe version of Illuminati (just to mention another card game) -imo the best release to date of that game.

Feachie
09-19-2011, 02:13 PM
I saw that one tum, and the 3 drop 2/2 red/white gob with double strike during shards (played again during that block and into...zendicar?)

Im a blue/white weenie control deck player personally.

Tumdumm
09-19-2011, 02:26 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uYkjA-L8gLU/TneIVDCTtOI/AAAAAAAAAFc/jTO03Le1qCY/joanie.png lol i fail at mirror imag

nilbog
09-19-2011, 02:26 PM
Make your own deck.. if you have enough cards, go mono-color first and try to understand the game. Fix the deck as you go along based on your experience of what worked and didn't work. Try different combinations, make your own combos with your deck based on what you have. Fine tune it statistically with the % chance of getting the combo cards you need. If you need 3 cards to win the game, have 4 of each of them, and possibly cards to help you search and play what you need.

In the end you will probably end up with something a lot different than what you started with. My best decks are up to 4-5 colors, with very little land. When my friends and I play, we use 4th edition rules, so I imagine things are way different now.

-4th edition or before ftw. post-mirrodin(?) cards look like star trek
-wtt mox pearl for mox jet, mox sapphire, or mox ruby
-pst for antiquated advice

Feachie
09-19-2011, 02:33 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uYkjA-L8gLU/TneIVDCTtOI/AAAAAAAAAFc/jTO03Le1qCY/joanie.png lol i fail at mirror imag

I have an unopened box of unglued :P clam session 4tw

xnolanx
09-19-2011, 03:52 PM
basically what stickyfingers said,

also... on the back the circle of colors the ones next to each other tend to play together well.. just a general idea though, don't feel stuck to certain color decks.

Massive Marc
09-19-2011, 04:01 PM
So a friend and I started playing this over the weekend. Neither of us had previously played, and it was certainly a lot of fun. What's the strategy in creating your deck though? He was playing black/white while I was playing red, which seemed alright. We both pretty much had no idea what we were doing, but we were learning as the games went on. Our matches were definitely close (although he proceeded to win every single match except one), which makes me think his deck was just better..?

I D K, give me some nerdy tips on how you assemble your decks / play your cards. Is one color set obviously better than the other..? I bought a couple of packs of cards this weekend, going to try to put together an ub3r l33t deck this week. I need to be prepared for Thursdays games, giev tips ~ ~

Sup,

Didn't read the whole thread but a lot of the information I did read is incorrect. Sorry if I repeat something said already.

Been playing magic since alpha. Still play EDH and legacy tourney's.

Ill answer your questions in point form:

How to assemble your decks: First resource is www.mtgsalvation.com Magic is divided into formats. Each format has a banned list. Figure out what format you want to play first, then go to that section and look at the deck lists. If you don't want to follow any of these formats, you're playing "casually". The best "casual" format by far is EDH. EDH consists of a 99 card deck with 1 General ( A legendary creature in any color/colors). The deck can only have singles of each card (can't have duplicates of cards in EDH) and you can only build your deck from the colors in your Generals Casting cost. This is by far the most popular way to play magic right now, also the most affordable.

How to play your cards: Hard to type out, easier over vent/in person. Generally, you don't want to overextend (have to many threats) and Card advantage is KING.

Is one color set obviously better than the other..?" Magic really isn't defined by its color's, but by the synergy your deck has. That being said, RED is generally underpowered and BLUE is pretty overpowered. Once again, color isn't really relevant.

I bought a couple of packs of cards this weekend, going to try to put together an ub3r l33t deck this week. I need to be prepared for Thursdays games, giev tips ~ "

Wizards sells a few products that can help you jump right into the game. My first suggestion would be the Duel Decks. The product comes with 2 decks that are actually pretty good and affordable. The second product I'd suggest is the EDH pre constructed decks. Even if you don't plan on playing EDH, you receive a lot of good/playable cards and a good amount of them.
My last suggestion (probably best for you) is look for the Deck Building Toolbox. This is everything you need to get started.

PROTIP: Buying packs is pretty much a waste of money. Find a decklist and buy the single cards online OR buy pre constructed decks.

PROTIP: Don't over extend your board. Play with removal. Crawl Worm sucks.

Magic is a lot of fun. Can be pretty expensive if you decide to really get into it, but can stay affordable as a fun side hobby.

If you need any additional information, don't hesitate to PM me.

Resources:

magiccards.info
mtgsalvation.com
deckcheck.net
starcitygames.com
cockatrice.de (If you want to play magic, without buying cards and want to fuck around with builds you def want to download Cockatrice. It's essentially a free magic the gathering program with multiplayer capability)

Asher
09-19-2011, 04:41 PM
I stopped playing at the end of 2000. Game got lame big time.

Asher

Supreme
09-19-2011, 04:50 PM
Anyone have a 3 4 or 5 digit DCI number?


I remember selling the beta power 9 in 1997 for $300..and thought i was getting a HUGE deal!

SearyxTZ
09-19-2011, 04:59 PM
So a friend and I started playing this over the weekend. Neither of us had previously played, and it was certainly a lot of fun. What's the strategy in creating your deck though? He was playing black/white while I was playing red, which seemed alright. We both pretty much had no idea what we were doing, but we were learning as the games went on. Our matches were definitely close (although he proceeded to win every single match except one), which makes me think his deck was just better..?

I D K, give me some nerdy tips on how you assemble your decks / play your cards. Is one color set obviously better than the other..? I bought a couple of packs of cards this weekend, going to try to put together an ub3r l33t deck this week. I need to be prepared for Thursdays games, giev tips ~ ~

Install the online version and play w/ big Searyx + KB + other TZ superstars


just installed it last weekend and won a M12 draft match despite having not played Magic in years

really fun doing draft tournies IMO. It's a good diversion while I wait for the red box release

SearyxTZ
09-19-2011, 05:01 PM
also for newbie players I'd try a mono green deck to start


yeah it's easily countered by smart players but you will also rarely lose too badly (which you will if you try playing blue/black but don't know what the fuck you're doing)

Otto
09-19-2011, 05:02 PM
I just started a couple weekends ago. I went to a draft this past Friday and got 3rd place.

The game is more fun if you don't get super hardcore into it (imo). Find friends who want to play casually and build a deck around a central idea. For example, my deck is all about using low cost creatures to put very high cost creatures into play early. My friend's deck is all about pooping out shit tons of 1/1 creatures and lands as quick as possible. There are definitely better strategies, but who cares as long as you're having fun.

Massive Marc
09-19-2011, 05:07 PM
Anyone have a 3 4 or 5 digit DCI number?


I remember selling the beta power 9 in 1997 for $300..and thought i was getting a HUGE deal!

Have you seen the prices now ? L.O.L.

nalkin
09-19-2011, 05:23 PM
go rat deck then quit after realizing the game is /yawn. Go play sonic or some shiz that is actually fun... not some washed up version of pokemon that was fun during our puberty phase in middleschool

Massive Marc
09-19-2011, 05:25 PM
^^^
Dumb and mad.
Must suck.

deathgirl
09-19-2011, 06:08 PM
was gunna link ya my coolest wall+angel ctrl deck i made on magicworkstation but ITS ON A COMP IN ANOTHER COUNTRY SO NOW I'M NOT LINKIN NETHING. GLHF

Fourthmeal
09-19-2011, 06:39 PM
NERD ALERT

Diggles
09-19-2011, 06:57 PM
I have a white kithkin deck

Tumdumm
09-19-2011, 08:41 PM
Anyone have a 3 4 or 5 digit DCI number?


I remember selling the beta power 9 in 1997 for $300..and thought i was getting a HUGE deal!

lol i almost had a 3 digit dci constructed rating one time :P
didnt know the store i used to play at switched to sanctioned exteneded tournaments, i played like 6 weeks straight trying to perfect the goofiest combos not caring at all before i found out... haha
stuff like
http://www.blackborder.com/bbcart/images/smallpix/TS/18524.jpg...
kids were playing serious affinity decks at the time

Arclyte
09-19-2011, 08:41 PM
Magic: The Gathering (of nerds)

Drieddead
09-19-2011, 09:00 PM
Basic deck build info is run 60 cards. Any more and your less likely to get the cards you need to win. Run with 24 lands unless your running some kinda of mana acceleration cards then you can drop the number of lands some( i once had an elf deck with 18 lands was lolz) The main thing is to have fun i used to love playing MTG until i started going to tourneys all the time. The competition is fun but it turns the game from " lol just had a fun 18 turn game of magic with a friend " to " OMG It took me 5 turns to win WTFBBQ!"

SUSUGAM
09-19-2011, 10:06 PM
yo feach, if you used to play red t2 in the 90s, you would probably cry if you saw some of the overpowered stuff they added a couple sets back

like a 2/2 HASTE (uneffected by summoning sickness) goblin for just a single red mana?! wtf~!!!!
sure, its got a minor drawback, but who cares when you're rollin over people's faces in the first 4 turns of the game

but that just cycled out i believe

we should probably be friends, just sayin. too bad im antisocial.

mtg is the best game ever, but the current direction of the game is fucking horrible. MTG was at its finest just before planewalkers were introduced. nowadays, no damage on the stack? no mana burn? 80 dollar mythic rares, fresh from a pack that's still printed? LOL.

MTG was at its finest just before planewalkers/mythics were introduced. I had the most monsterous t2 white weenie deck around kamigawa era. :( Umezawa's Jitte was so good.

Now, though. Every card is fucking godlike and I can't take it seriously because every decent decklist requires 500+ bucks.

Dumb.

Tumdumm
09-19-2011, 10:26 PM
hell yeah man

im still hoping for combat damage on the stack will come back, been hording morphlings & other cards that would love to be broken again

lol jitte, one of the best ways to get a kid to ragequit & throw his deck across the room
or a turn 1 hymn to tourach hahahha

Mcbard
09-20-2011, 12:03 AM
I would work on proper deck construction if I were you Shanna. Constructed decks (pre-made decks, not opened on the spot) typically have a minimum card limit of 60 with no max. This means that most people will run EXACTLY 60 cards because for every card over this you drastically decrease your odds of drawing relevant spells. With this in mind, you are allowed 4 copies of each non-basicland card in your deck. So naturally most decklists you will find will also be running 4 of all of their best spells. Here's a friends deck as an example: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/MagicOnlineTourn.aspx?x=mtg/digital/magiconline/tourn/2803260

As you see, his deck (the top one) is running mostly 4x and 3x all of their spells in order to best increase their odds of seeing them. Another thing to note is his land count of 23. Just starting you should probably run 24 in all of your 60 card decks as a general practice until you get better at calculating the math needed to figure out exactly how many you really need. Decks made of cards that have a lower converted mana cost (CC) tend to run fewer lands, while decks with higher CC will run more naturally, but with 24 you should be seeing enough regularly in your games so that you're not "mana-screwed". One last basica thing to keep track of, regarding lands and CC; pay attention to how many cards in your deck are expensive/cheap, so you can start making mana adjustments accordingly.

As far as colors go, no color is really "stronger" than any of the others as in it will outright win, that said the colors generally have particular effects that show up repeatidly within them. They are as follows:
blue - permission/card advantage
green - big creatures
black - removal spells, zombies, death, sacrifices, regeneration etc.
red - direct damage, haste creatures
white - protection, powerful enchantments, solid creatures

Some colors power well together, although with the depth of the cardpool nearly anything can be concocted and work out fairly well.

First 60 card deck outline:
23-24 lands
8 removal spells (kill your opponents creatures)
20 creatures
8 fun spells/enchantments to play around with

Have fun!

EDIT: Also, you may want to try to avoid "color screw" (not getting the proper kind of mana, by running either 1 or 2 colors, although with a high land count and some filtering you should have little difficulty splashing for a third if you wish.

Thulack
09-20-2011, 12:29 AM
Anyone have a 3 4 or 5 digit DCI number?


I remember selling the beta power 9 in 1997 for $300..and thought i was getting a HUGE deal!

my DCI number is 6 digits((

Played MTG from 93-01. Playing Online MTG last year for awhile but just ended up spending to much cash. Use to do pre-release tourneys and PTQ's in Philly area back in the day.

Ennoia
09-20-2011, 12:32 AM
So a friend and I started playing this over the weekend. Neither of us had previously played, and it was certainly a lot of fun. What's the strategy in creating your deck though? He was playing black/white while I was playing red, which seemed alright. We both pretty much had no idea what we were doing, but we were learning as the games went on. Our matches were definitely close (although he proceeded to win every single match except one), which makes me think his deck was just better..?

I D K, give me some nerdy tips on how you assemble your decks / play your cards. Is one color set obviously better than the other..? I bought a couple of packs of cards this weekend, going to try to put together an ub3r l33t deck this week. I need to be prepared for Thursdays games, giev tips ~ ~

It depends on which 'type' you're playing (look them up...certain game 'types' restrict certain cards/card sets/etc).

With the older cards there's some first turn kill combos, some combos where you can't lose at all, and other decks that lead to 3 hour games.

First 60 card deck outline:
23-24 lands
8 removal spells (kill your opponents creatures)
20 creatures
8 fun spells/enchantments to play around with

This ^^^ is so fuck-stupid I don't even know where to start.

Basic deck build info is run 60 cards. Any more and your less likely to get the cards you need to win. Run with 24 lands unless your running some kinda of mana acceleration cards then you can drop the number of lands some( i once had an elf deck with 18 lands was lolz) The main thing is to have fun i used to love playing MTG until i started going to tourneys all the time. The competition is fun but it turns the game from " lol just had a fun 18 turn game of magic with a friend " to " OMG It took me 5 turns to win WTFBBQ!"

Lets see if I can remember the elf deck from high school...

Llanowar Elf x4
Fyndhorn Elf x4
Priest of Titania x4
Elvish Archers x4
Seeker of Skybreak x2
Skyshroud Sentinel x4

Coat of Arms x4
Alluran x2
Recycle x2
Concordnant Crossroads x1
Mox Emerald x1 (a legit Mox Emerald)
Lotus Petal x4 (before it was restricted)

Overrun x4

Gaea's Cradle x1
Forest x7

There's like 16 cards I can't remember...but that's the basic gist of the deck. Basically you end up playing your deck and attacking (Overrun is only there to give Trample).

No idea how the rules work now as I haven't played since the Urza's block. Also...fuck High Tide + Palinchron...and any deck built around Humility and Crusade...one guy had a deck with Darkest Hour and something else I can't remember that was just super fucking annoying. We had one deck that was over hundreds of cards and was just ever Legend card there was (at the time)...it was fucking terrible but really funny.

Drieddead
09-20-2011, 05:15 AM
Mine was
60 cards
18 forest
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Timberwatch elves
4 Treetop Scouts
4 Elven Champions
4 Fog
4 Elvish Vangaurds
2 Heedless one
4 Seeker of Skybreak
4 taunting Elf
4 Wirewood Herald
4 Wirewood Pride
Sideboard:
4 Elvish Scrappers
4 Elven Lyrist
3 Naturalize
4 Gae's Herald

JayDee
09-20-2011, 05:37 AM
do any of you mix in yugioh cards sometimes?

never got a straight answer

Shannacore
09-20-2011, 10:16 AM
Cool, lots of good info here, I appreciate it. Will be making my deck either tonight or tomorrow, thinking of going red to begin with.

Drieddead
09-20-2011, 04:11 PM
do any of you mix in yugioh cards sometimes?

never got a straight answer

you cant the cards are different sizes XD

Biffins
09-20-2011, 04:35 PM
I play at the friday night tournaments at my local comic shop. It's about as nerdy as you can get.

Shannacore
09-20-2011, 07:49 PM
Has anyone played this on console? Was wondering if it's worth it to download for the PS3.

Biffins
09-20-2011, 09:05 PM
Has anyone played this on console? Was wondering if it's worth it to download for the PS3.

The first one is a little buggy, but the newest one is great. Decks are much more customizable, and it's quit a challenge. Those npc opponents are hard as shit on the hardest setting. And if you are new it is a great way to learn how to play since a lot of the card abilities currently used in the standard sets are in these decks. I don't know if you've thought about the PC version, but I wouldn't suggest it. It's like an alternative to owning physical cards and playing in person with people, which is where the fun is.

Falisaty
09-20-2011, 09:19 PM
Well hell i played MTG back when it first came out still have all my old cards.. Will sell entire collection 400 bucks PM me if interested guaranteed entire set of one of the early box sets cant remember which one poss alliance. that being said i have several premaid decks that have won me several turnys. the one i used the most is considered type one white weeny deck decked with flyers. IT has mostly interupts with Protection from any color cards thrown all around it.

Also had a Black plague rat/rat deck that was real good because of the early rush with plague dots that the other player accumulated.

Biffins
09-20-2011, 09:49 PM
Well hell i played MTG back when it first came out still have all my old cards.. Will sell entire collection 400 bucks PM me if interested guaranteed entire set of one of the early box sets cant remember which one poss alliance. that being said i have several premaid decks that have won me several turnys. the one i used the most is considered type one white weeny deck decked with flyers. IT has mostly interupts with Protection from any color cards thrown all around it.

Also had a Black plague rat/rat deck that was real good because of the early rush with plague dots that the other player accumulated.

Good luck to ya. I haven't had much luck selling lots. Had more luck pulling out the rares/mythics and selling them individually.

Falisaty
09-20-2011, 10:00 PM
Good luck to ya. I haven't had much luck selling lots. Had more luck pulling out the rares/mythics and selling them individually.

yea i had someone offer me 250 for my black lotus a cpl years back so i sold that one... im kicking myself as i think i could have used it to get someone to buy the entire thing

Feachie
09-20-2011, 10:09 PM
The first one is a little buggy, but the newest one is great. Decks are much more customizable, and it's quit a challenge. Those npc opponents are hard as shit on the hardest setting. And if you are new it is a great way to learn how to play since a lot of the card abilities currently used in the standard sets are in these decks. I don't know if you've thought about the PC version, but I wouldn't suggest it. It's like an alternative to owning physical cards and playing in person with people, which is where the fun is.

why not? for somebody learning the game, the single player mode is great. you can take as much time as you need to, look at all the cards being played, see how the mechanics work and such.

shanna download that for your pc. demonoid has it, ask me how i know :D

Biffins
09-20-2011, 10:11 PM
yea i had someone offer me 250 for my black lotus a cpl years back so i sold that one... im kicking myself as i think i could have used it to get someone to buy the entire thing

Only $250? Check those current ebay prices if you want to start crying.

Biffins
09-20-2011, 10:15 PM
why not? for somebody learning the game, the single player mode is great. you can take as much time as you need to, look at all the cards being played, see how the mechanics work and such.

shanna download that for your pc. demonoid has it, ask me how i know :D

We might be talking about different games. The xbox/ps3 versions are great, but not sure if they offer those on PC as well. Just checked the site and apparently they do offer it through steam - the "Duels of the Planeswalkers" games. But I'm talking about "Magic Online". Honestly I didn't find it to be a very user-friendly game, and the graphics seemed about a decade or two behind the times.

SUSUGAM
09-20-2011, 10:33 PM
hell yeah man

im still hoping for combat damage on the stack will come back, been hording morphlings & other cards that would love to be broken again

lol jitte, one of the best ways to get a kid to ragequit & throw his deck across the room
or a turn 1 hymn to tourach hahahha

hahahaha hymns are SO good. I have the most bullshit discard deck. tons of banned shit, but so entertaining. Dark ritual into first turn Necropotence, turn 2 they have no hand. So silly.

Almost as cool as mono red skullclamp aggroburn deck. :D

SUSUGAM
09-20-2011, 10:36 PM
lol i almost had a 3 digit dci constructed rating one time :P
didnt know the store i used to play at switched to sanctioned exteneded tournaments, i played like 6 weeks straight trying to perfect the goofiest combos not caring at all before i found out... haha
stuff like
http://www.blackborder.com/bbcart/images/smallpix/TS/18524.jpg...
kids were playing serious affinity decks at the time

I do not understand this card. Just sayin.

Falisaty
09-20-2011, 10:45 PM
Only $250? Check those current ebay prices if you want to start crying.

oh i know... however mine was played and i paid like a 1.50 for the pack i got it in?? like i said i was plaing the game when it first started out. it was really worn and had battle scars but it was still an original

Tumdumm
09-20-2011, 10:50 PM
I do not understand this card. Just sayin.

CAUTION: THIS COMBO IS SILLY & WILL NOT PLACE WELL IN A TOURNAMENT SETTING
(plus its not even extended legal anymore)

red/green very wary norin
if you want the whole decklist PM me


the main combo was norin the wary + primal forcemage + where ancients tread
cream of the crop worked well with norin, also ran a couple pandemoniums in case i couldnt get where ancients tread online

had other 5+ power creatures in the deck (rumbling slum, krosan tusker, juggernaut) to pop off the where nuggets tread

norin also helped me keep pyrohemia in play (red pestilence)

SUSUGAM
09-20-2011, 11:46 PM
CAUTION: THIS COMBO IS SILLY & WILL NOT PLACE WELL IN A TOURNAMENT SETTING
(plus its not even extended legal anymore)

red/green very wary norin
if you want the whole decklist PM me


the main combo was norin the wary + primal forcemage + where ancients tread
cream of the crop worked well with norin, also ran a couple pandemoniums in case i couldnt get where ancients tread online

had other 5+ power creatures in the deck (rumbling slum, krosan tusker, juggernaut) to pop off the where nuggets tread

norin also helped me keep pyrohemia in play (red pestilence)

yeah but norin himself cant attack or defend? i know he can trigger some 'into play' shit a lot, but it seems like a lot of combo pieces for 5 dmg pops. :( and the forcemage is pretty easily disrupted. definitely silly

Ennoia
09-20-2011, 11:47 PM
CAUTION: THIS COMBO IS SILLY & WILL NOT PLACE WELL IN A TOURNAMENT SETTING
(plus its not even extended legal anymore)

red/green very wary norin
if you want the whole decklist PM me


the main combo was norin the wary + primal forcemage + where ancients tread
cream of the crop worked well with norin, also ran a couple pandemoniums in case i couldnt get where ancients tread online

had other 5+ power creatures in the deck (rumbling slum, krosan tusker, juggernaut) to pop off the where nuggets tread

norin also helped me keep pyrohemia in play (red pestilence)

Tumdumm, you ever go to The Battlegrounds when it was open and play M:TG?

Biffins
09-21-2011, 12:12 AM
Oh, and I'm not sure about the PS3 version, but with the Xbox version you get a voucher that you take to the nearest comic shop and you get a free mythic rare - grave titan, which is very relevant to the upcoming set.

Thulack
09-21-2011, 12:27 AM
Can also play the actual MTG online through wizards. You can buy packs and play in draft tourneys and such. Actual market for cards and event passes.

Diggles
09-21-2011, 12:35 AM
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/180899_163602523690831_100001232543584_364879_1205 44_n.jpg

Tumdumm
09-21-2011, 01:18 AM
i collect misprints & oddities, hit me up if you open anything wacky



definitely silly

told ya! and yeah if he tries to attack he gets removed til end of turn, so yeah he's a goofball


Tumdumm, you ever go to The Battlegrounds when it was open and play M:TG?

i dont think so, where was it? name sounds familiar... i played fnm at sam's in meriden for early 2000's then mostly just went to fables comics on and off til they closed down

Diggles
09-21-2011, 01:24 AM
I only play with the band mates during lunch and gig trips.

36 hours on a ferry ride means pretty freaking awesome magic tournaments

Ennoia
09-21-2011, 01:46 AM
i collect misprints & oddities, hit me up if you open anything wacky





told ya! and yeah if he tries to attack he gets removed til end of turn, so yeah he's a goofball




i dont think so, where was it? name sounds familiar... i played fnm at sam's in meriden for early 2000's then mostly just went to fables comics on and off til they closed down

Near the old mall, right next to the movie theater and Aldo's Pizza behind where the Athenian used to be. Semi-new store opened up in Watertown...Legends of Superheroes or something like that? I don't really play anything that requires a comic/gaming shop anymore, but it's nice to know they're still around.

Doors
09-21-2011, 01:52 AM
Stop playing this honestly.

Shannacore
09-21-2011, 01:54 AM
Played the PS3 version for a few hours tonight. Definitely fun, and definitely informative. BITCHES DECK WAS ENTIRELY TOO OP THOUGH.

visage
09-21-2011, 03:39 AM
Played the PS3 version for a few hours tonight. Definitely fun, and definitely informative. BITCHES DECK WAS ENTIRELY TOO OP THOUGH.

Clearly online seducing magic card nerds do doubt * highfive* talk to you later Shannon

Shannacore
09-21-2011, 10:02 AM
Not R&F

returnofahipster
09-21-2011, 12:36 PM
Sometimes I would just go through my thousands of cards and read them. The little quotes were often funny / inspiring. This was my favorite card, even though it wasn't too great.

http://i54.tinypic.com/se55kk.jpg

Shannacore
09-21-2011, 12:38 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/34foab9.jpg

This shit is so OP. Every time he attacks me I have to destroy four cards. WTF.

Tommy_Wiseau
09-21-2011, 12:42 PM
plz resize

Shannacore
09-21-2011, 12:49 PM
DONE, SIR.

Shannacore
09-21-2011, 03:11 PM
If anyone has this for PS3, hit me up. I am interested in being schooled.

Massive Marc
09-21-2011, 04:46 PM
ITT: Old school players HARHAR

Kozilek isn't OP :/ (might be on console)

Acutally not much OP stuff in general. Some strong cards now, are the following:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/nph/130.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/roe/4.jpg
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/m11/7.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/31.jpg

Anyway, if got cockatrice, id be willing to make you grab your ankles anytime.

Diggles
09-21-2011, 04:51 PM
I hate mill decks

Drieddead
09-22-2011, 03:31 PM
I bought a box of m10 i think it was at my local store and got 2 Baneslayer angles traded them right then and there for $100 store credit i think they were going for $60 a piece at the time. That box payed for itself lol.

Feachie
09-22-2011, 03:38 PM
ITT: Old school players HARHAR

Kozilek isn't OP :/ (might be on console)

Acutally not much OP stuff in general. Some strong cards now, are the following:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/31.jpg



this. there are cards that are op as fuck in draft though. if you want to play on the cheap and you've got 4 or 5 other friends that do, pitch in and buy boxes of cards and do drafts. it's fun and a good way to get a nice card pool to build your decks from.

tralina sucks, i'm getting back into this nerd game. i'm rebuilding my blue/white artifact deck and my friends hooked me up with some of this version of jace. craaaaazy :eek:

Biffins
09-22-2011, 04:10 PM
new jace is emo...wtf

Ennoia
09-22-2011, 04:34 PM
Someone wanna explain how Plainswalkers work? I haven't played since like Urza's Destiny. Are the numbers on the side life you spend? First Jace looks like his abilities are more fun. Second one is just retarded.

Feachie
09-22-2011, 04:35 PM
consider them as another player and can be attacked. you may block for them with your creatures. targeted sorcery/instants can be used on them. they start with X counters, and each ability either adds or removes them to use each ability.

deathgirl
09-22-2011, 05:41 PM
tralina sucks, i'm getting back into this nerd game.

I can do what she's doing but I'm gunna study it harder (http://mybfolder.org/albums/userpics/10001/1290424275454.png)

Feachie
09-22-2011, 06:23 PM
follow me more and keep proving what a stupid bitch you are ;p

She sucks because I quit magic a long time ago, now she has me wanting to play. stop being a cunt imo

visage
09-22-2011, 06:28 PM
follow me more and keep proving what a stupid bitch you are ;p

She sucks because I quit magic a long time ago, now she has me wanting to play. stop being a cunt imo

I want to be inside of you. You have a great innerside

Massive Marc
09-23-2011, 04:03 PM
this. there are cards that are op as fuck in draft though. if you want to play on the cheap and you've got 4 or 5 other friends that do, pitch in and buy boxes of cards and do drafts. it's fun and a good way to get a nice card pool to build your decks from.

tralina sucks, i'm getting back into this nerd game. i'm rebuilding my blue/white artifact deck and my friends hooked me up with some of this version of jace. craaaaazy :eek:

Drafting with friends on a new box is fun. If you really want to experience Magic at its best, try Cube. Cube is on another level.

Someone wanna explain how Plainswalkers work? I haven't played since like Urza's Destiny. Are the numbers on the side life you spend? First Jace looks like his abilities are more fun. Second one is just retarded.

consider them as another player and can be attacked. you may block for them with your creatures. targeted sorcery/instants can be used on them. they start with X counters, and each ability either adds or removes them to use each ability.

You can only use one ability per turn.


Here was the strongest combo this year, that lead to Jace(And SFM) getting banned:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/m11/33.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/31.jpg
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/20.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/nph/130.jpg

I'll let you figure it out.

ScaryBadAssholes
09-23-2011, 04:17 PM
I can do what she's doing but I'm gunna study it harder (http://mybfolder.org/albums/userpics/10001/1290424275454.png)


I'll be honest....this Feachie chick sure seems like one crazy bitch.

I bet she's barren inside or something.

Massive Marc
09-23-2011, 04:22 PM
I'll be honest....this Feachie chick sure seems like one crazy bitch.

I bet she's barren inside or something.

fucking hot though...

Ennoia
09-23-2011, 04:35 PM
Drafting with friends on a new box is fun. If you really want to experience Magic at its best, try Cube. Cube is on another level.





You can only use one ability per turn.


Here was the strongest combo this year, that lead to Jace(And SFM) getting banned:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/m11/33.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/31.jpg
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/20.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/nph/130.jpg

I'll let you figure it out.

I don't get it...it doesn't really seem like anything spectacular there.

ScaryBadAssholes
09-23-2011, 04:52 PM
I don't get it...it doesn't really seem like anything spectacular there.

I guess more accurately they all let you select cards from your deck and either put them in your hand or on top of your deck.

Massive Marc
09-23-2011, 04:58 PM
I guess more accurately they all let you select cards from your deck and either put them in your hand or on top of your deck.

You're pretty much correct.

Play Squadron Hawk, find 3 more. Use Jaces 0: ability, Draw 3 cards, put back two hawks. repeat as needed (free shuffles from playing squadron hawk leads to quality card choice (strong)). Then control the opponent with his -1: and +2.

Furthermore, in the same deck, you're running stoneforge mystic and battleskull.
Play stoneforge turn 2, find batterskull, turn 3 play a 4/4 lifelink/vigilance/bounceable creature at instant speed for (w)(1). Then if the 0/0 creature that batterskull makes dies, you throw it on your squadron hawk for a 5/5 lifelink/vigilance/bounceable.

The control, card advantage and agro package in one deck was soo strong in standard, it spilled over into a legacy build. Nevertheless, Jace and STF were banned in standard because of that deck (cawblade.dec (http://manashift.com/index.php/2011/02/deck-of-the-week-caw-blade/))

Feachie
09-23-2011, 06:55 PM
Drafting with friends on a new box is fun. If you really want to experience Magic at its best, try Cube. Cube is on another level.





You can only use one ability per turn.


Here was the strongest combo this year, that lead to Jace(And SFM) getting banned:

http://magiccards.info/scans/en/m11/33.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/31.jpg
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/20.jpghttp://magiccards.info/scans/en/nph/130.jpg

I'll let you figure it out.

i know that. you can use one ability on most other cards that allow you to do multiple things also, i figured it was implied sorry.

yeah i knew about this combo only because i heard so much bitching about jace being banned from t2. friends of mine were making good money drafting boxes and selling their cards. jace and vengevine were their biggest moneymakers for a minute. we've got an indoor swapmeet of geekdom here, it's pretty legit. you can walk in, sell your cards to random people or direct to the vendors (whovever is paying more at the time heh).

Biffins
09-23-2011, 08:00 PM
bounce with me (http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/218858)

Deck I used this past year. I haven't really played since M12 came out, so I'm not sure if there's anything from that set I should put in here, though I did add in some stonehorn dignitaries.

Tumdumm
09-24-2011, 12:27 AM
that stoneforge mystic combo (caw blade, bird blade, etc) was sick with sword of feast & famine

for biseiged gameday i came top 8 with
4 stoneforge mystic
3 sword of f&f
4 squad hawks
4 molten-tail masticore
4 lead the stampede
4 birds of paradise
tbh i forget what else, creatures & lands, probalby main decked viridian corrupter
masticore made kids wanna cry, especially when untapping all the lands with sword

the key is card advantage
playing squadron hawk fuels the masticore for enough turns to end any game
lead the stampede was great because the only nonlands were the rest of the lead the stampede & sword, only cause i sold off jace the mind sculptor (bouncing something every turn puts you ahead, thats where his card advantage comes from)
sword of f&f is (was?) broken in the format, totally wrecks their hand
i never really played more than 4 lands a game, would just hold em in my hand to scare em, or to ditch to masticore

tldr version: wow tum is rambling

Tumdumm
12-08-2011, 11:09 PM
bump :d
anyone got foil sword of light and shadow for trade/sale? PM me

also willing to part with any card if the price is right, got everything from foil snapcaster mage to edgar hurricane

oblexsis
12-08-2011, 11:14 PM
i miss my old white / blue millstone deck , something satisfying about making somebody flip their entire deck into their graveyard then taking it away with a tormod's crypt

SearyxTZ
12-09-2011, 12:23 AM
Olivia Voldyayaryayryen is my favorite card ever in Innistrad drafts

Just wanted to throw that out there.

I also won one with a blue mill deck (dream twists, curse of the bloody tome, etc), which is hilarious + highly recommended if you ever get the cards for it.

Diggles
12-09-2011, 01:18 AM
Mill decks are fucking fun as shit.

Tokko
12-09-2011, 04:13 PM
http://static.starcitygames.com/sales/cardscans/MAGULG/deranged_hermit.jpg+http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?size=small&type=card&name=Lifeline&options==Death by squirrels

Aelzrith
12-11-2011, 01:28 PM
Llano war Elves + priest of Titania + gaia's cradle + endless worm + rancor = win