I have never played EQ PVP.

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

And I'm really really curious about it.

If I were to start on Red99, I'll want to be a Cleric. My question is, how do I transform from the pacifist-loving-cozy-knitting-girly-cleric that I am, to a badass-rage-monster-uberbeast-with-complete-heal? What do PvP Clerics do?

Please halp.

Related Info:

http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/funny-gifs-mortal-komcat.gif

[Merrik]

PvP Clerics get gang raped so they can't heal...you DA and DB and pray to get ignored long enough to get off a heal. Once you're able to be attacked again, you die. This is of course assuming that you're participating in group pvp. If it's solo pvp, you cast a blind/root/nuke and realize that its all magic based and will be resisted 75% of the time and then you just gate/run.

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

That sounds horrible. Bleh.

Would it even be worth rolling a Cleric on PvP? Are there no benefits..?

[JayDee]

get friends & play well and youll do just fine

[JayDee]

nice boxing technique by the cat on the right btw

good head movement and doubling up on the jab setting up the overhand

[greatdane]

Clerics are really valuable in PvP. They function as tanks a lot of the time, and can effectively crowd control a number of players by wasting their time hitting the cleric while getting killed themselves. A well-geared cleric is pretty durable, especially when you consider DA/DB. They struggle in really big battles where ten dudes will just pile on the cleric and people die so fast you can't get a heal off, and they struggle in 1v1. Anything in-between is great for a cleric, and it's one of the best classes to have in 2v2/3v3ish PvP. They're even pretty good all-around early on in a server's lifespan, because cleric nukes are okay when people have terrible resists, and then roots and stuns as well as amazing PvP buffs. Once it becomes easy to get 100+ MR, a cleric's offensive capabilities plummet and they become purely support.

[lethdar]

PvP Clerics get gang raped so they can't heal...you DA and DB and pray to get ignored long enough to get off a heal. Once you're able to be attacked again, you die. This is of course assuming that you're participating in group pvp. If it's solo pvp, you cast a blind/root/nuke and realize that its all magic based and will be resisted 75% of the time and then you just gate/run.

This man is a fucking moron, clerics are the most important class for group pvp and a properly prepared cleric will win almost any 1v1.

[Titanuk]

Lethdar knows EQ

[Hottbiscuits Dreadmuffin]

This man is a fucking moron, clerics are the most important class for group pvp and a properly prepared cleric will win almost any 1v1.

Properly prepared? Concerning spells, gear, buffs, or all of the above?

I r pvp newb.

[greatdane]

A cleric can't really kill anyone with really high MR. Pre-Kunark they can probably beat just about any class if the guy has low MR, though. Pretty easy to get decent resists on a dwarf cleric, too.

[SyanideGas]

Starie just needs to transform from a cleric to a bard to kite shiet! >:D Thats what i'd do if i went pvp.

[Silikten]

Clerics can pretty much kill any class pre-kunark. Hybrids are the only ones that can give you trouble. Pure casters usually run oom and pure melee cant heal themselves vs your melee/nukes

[Not_Kazowi]

On vztz clerics were pretty sick, if its going to be a legit old world server then they may not be as powerful but they are still very useful. group pvp clerics are pivotal, even when they are being targeted and using DA. Provides just enough of a diversion to assist on a target. The trick to cleric pvp is finding a spot thats hard to reach or provides you some safe distance from attack so you can sit back and throw heals off, otherwise cleric stuns are pretty sick, especially if sound of force gets put in.


You will suck at first, you will die a lot but you just have to be constantly aware of your surroundings and prepare for anything. EQ PVP, once you play it you will never go back blue again.

[juicedsixfo]

Clerics can pretty much kill any class pre-kunark. Hybrids are the only ones that can give you trouble. Pure casters usually run oom and pure melee cant heal themselves vs your melee/nukes

A relevant video for the OP. Good technique, but as you can see once uber gear comes in to play it gets a little more challenging. Make sure to keep all your melee skills capped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TKOACFBYEw&feature=related

[Not_Kazowi]

ah man i miss those times

[Lasher]

1) Learn to dislike everyone you dont know
2) Dont ever be nice to anyone unless there is somthing in it for you, dont rez ect
3) Dont waste mana on healing dumb people
4) Save enough Mana to KS people
5) DA train when in doubt

[letsjoe]

exciting duel this was

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u292/regis0sam/Tranch3.jpg

[pojab]

o noes my pals are fighting

[Lasher]

HPT the bane of Letsjoe's and Lasher's bind spot in DL

[letsjoe]

HPT the bane of Letsjoe's and Lasher's bind spot in DL

someone had to do it.......we were too powerful

[XiakenjaTZ]

Old world cleric gear... under 46 for MR

Crested MM shield
Frog or Tranix Crown
Typical ears, rings, face, and bracers (diamond or jacinth if you can get some)
Random stuff till you turn into a grape for most other slots.
Eboots
reed belt
cloak if ice bear?
wolfs eye neck or white gold from gun


No clue on shoulders or main weapon. There are a few good ones in Hate but I was trying to make a list for under 46.

[Galacticus]

This man is a fucking moron, clerics are the most important class for group pvp and a properly prepared cleric will win almost any 1v1.

Lethdar is right.

Clerics are very powerful in pvp.

Clerics get plate armor, have root, blind, two lines of stun, the best heals in the game, huge hp buffs, Magic resist which is great to resisst spells like root or snare.

For pve they have awesome undead nukes and can solo good in undead spots much like a paladin.

They are the number one wanted class in any group pvp or pve followed by maybe a bard.



Downside is they cant solo well in pvp because they have trouble putting out significant damage. But its not really a downside because you are going to have instant friends if your not a douchebag.

I had a friend who was a 55 cleric and we pvped a bunch together. He could beat almost anyone 1v1 because of his resist buffs/gear and the fact that he could run other casters oom damaging him as he just out healed it and then melee/nuked them to death and stunned/sheild bashed if they tried to heal or run or gate.

1v1 most classes will not even bother with you because it usually will be a long fight. Either you will be able to run or they will.

In group pvp people will want to kill you. Gameplay would be avoiding casters by line of sight, running from melee, healing/buffing allies and then throwing assist spells like root or stun out.

[Wonton]

i like your ui

[greatdane]

Old world cleric gear... under 46 for MR

Crested MM shield
Frog or Tranix Crown
Typical ears, rings, face, and bracers (diamond or jacinth if you can get some)
Random stuff till you turn into a grape for most other slots.
Eboots
reed belt
cloak if ice bear?
wolfs eye neck or white gold from gun


No clue on shoulders or main weapon. There are a few good ones in Hate but I was trying to make a list for under 46.

If we exclude actual raid gear like dragon/planar shit, as well as diamond jewelry because it'll be a while before this becomes available to the common player (which the poster must be assumed to be):

2x Earring of Magic Resistance
White Gold Necklace
Split Paw Hide Mask
Skull-shaped Barbute
2x Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet
Bloodstained Mantle
Dwarven Ringmail Tunic (usable by all cleric races except like human/erudite or something)
Scepter of Flame
Mistmoore shield

If rich/lucky/good crew, throw in Mithril arms/legs and Tranix crown

100ish MR, 120ish with the fire giant lewts.

Add 55/5 rings and HBC and you have a pretty tanky cleric. Int casters have a hard time getting high resists because they can't wear pretty much any of the gear except jewelry, so they can be nuked down handily. Melees are a bit tricky, but you can probably outlast anything except an SK or a good warrior.

Once people get the sweet gear and 150+ MR becomes the norm, cleric offense becomes mostly useless except for trying to stun people in group PvP for the 10% chance it has of landing. Until then, clerics are pretty mad.

[fistses]

Clerics are good if you have Dawnfire and the banish undead weapon proc works on PC's like it did on live when you /quit.
Did that so many times and killed insane amount of people while /lol'ing on my second computer watching.

[Wonton]

Old world cleric gear... under 46 for MR

Crested MM shield
Frog or Tranix Crown
Typical ears, rings, face, and bracers (diamond or jacinth if you can get some)
Random stuff till you turn into a grape for most other slots.
Eboots
reed belt
cloak if ice bear?
wolfs eye neck or white gold from gun


No clue on shoulders or main weapon. There are a few good ones in Hate but I was trying to make a list for under 46.

Crested MM shield + 10 mr
tranix crown + 20 mr
(this gear + 25 natural mr makes 55 mr. higher than your 46)
bloodstained mantle + 10 mr
resist magic (cleric spell) + 40 mr
(this totaling you at 105 MR. with only 3 MR pieces. the list goes on too, you can have a ton of MR as a cleric)
White gold necklace + 7 mr

XiakenjaTZ, you sure you played on TZ? Refrain from posting feedback when you lack the knowledge, makes ya look like a fool

[Kelsar]

so much hate..

[XiakenjaTZ]

Crested MM shield + 10 mr
tranix crown + 20 mr
(this gear + 25 natural mr makes 55 mr. higher than your 46)
bloodstained mantle + 10 mr
resist magic (cleric spell) + 40 mr
(this totaling you at 105 MR. with only 3 MR pieces. the list goes on too, you can have a ton of MR as a cleric)
White gold necklace + 7 mr

XiakenjaTZ, you sure you played on TZ? Refrain from posting feedback when you lack the knowledge, makes ya look like a fool

Bite me, it was not a knowledge competition. I just wanted peoples ideas. And I was not asking what you could get MR up to, even a moron like yourself knows clerics can MR buff, we were talking about gear.

and the under 46... I was referring to stuff you can get pre planar you dumb ass. I think everyone else understood that.

[Harrison]

Don't worry biscuits, most of these guys haven't either.

[mitic]

we dont know anything about the Resist system regarding clr offensive spells so its to early to say how good or bad they will be on red99

[greatdane]

we dont know anything about the Resist system regarding clr offensive spells so its to early to say how good or bad they will be on red99

It should be safe to assume that the devs will try to get as close as possible to classic resist rates. Why would they take the trouble to make a classic PvP server and then let resists be fucked up? If we assume that 100MR = pretty solid and 150+ = practically immune, it's not hard to predict how clerics will do.