Hypothetical dot question

[greatdane]

If red99 goes with the 66% spell damage penalty that's commonly seen in PvP and also keeps the 66% penalty for dots on moving targets, will they stack and render dots largely ineffective in PvP?

It just struck me. Take something like Winged Death, a druid PvP staple, which ticks for 143. At 66% effectiveness (from the PvP spell penalty), that's 94 damage. If the moving penalty then applies, that's 62 damage, not exactly a threat at those levels.

If that's the case, dots will be largely useless in PvP. At the same time, I can't imagine that the devs will want 100% spell damage, nor would they remove the dot penalty since they presumably want to adhere to the classic mechanics. The only solution I can see is that they won't both apply at the same time.

[Misto]

Probably not.

[Lasher]

Might be pulling this out over my ass but I think the moving dots reduction didmt apply to pvp, it just doesn't ring a bell

[Crenshinabon]

Never even heard of this moving penalty. Doubt that will be in. I would not mind seeing the dot 66% though. Especially since melee do less damage.

[Kelsar]

moving penalty was a late addition. Wasn't in day 1.

[fistses]

npc dot reduction was like within 3 months, pvp dmg nerf was within 5-6 months.. both are classic patches so should be in.

[fiegi]

Fist has a vast knowledge of everquest. Trast me.

[Lasher]

npc dot reduction was like within 3 months, pvp dmg nerf was within 5-6 months.. both are classic patches so should be in.

Just npc moving dot reduction it wasn't applied to pvp was it ?

[fistses]

Just npc moving dot reduction it wasn't applied to pvp was it ?

dot reduction for pvp was overall, standing moving blowing your neighbor, etc. 20% reduction for direct dmg. ht was later changed to 66% i think during kunark.

[Kelsar]

omfg, I just remembered Necro Splurt. Hopefully that already has the pvp nerfbat. Pre-patch, people would just scream "omfg I'm splurted" followed by some taunts and the lack of skill involved.

[fiegi]

Splurt one of the worst pvp spells going. get the fuck out of here

[Lasher]

Splurt was only good early kunarkuntil people learned to dispell and against bad players

[Naikon]

progressive damage dots like splurt were always dispelled before the bulk of their damage began to tick.

[mitic]

omfg, I just remembered Necro Splurt. Hopefully that already has the pvp nerfbat. Pre-patch, people would just scream "omfg I'm splurted" followed by some taunts and the lack of skill involved.

its magic based, simply use a pumice

[Titanuk]

i was so mad when you could only do 33% of someones life on my wizard, even with Manaburn, was a late change but made me quit my wizard on live

[Titanuk]

omfg, I just remembered Necro Splurt. Hopefully that already has the pvp nerfbat. Pre-patch, people would just scream "omfg I'm splurted" followed by some taunts and the lack of skill involved.

bad player alert

[Knuckle]

bad player alert

[Smedy]

nothin can be done vs the mighty splurt, u dead brah

[Ennoia]

moving penalty was a late addition. Wasn't in day 1.

Extremely late, was a PoP era nerf after flags were removed from Bastion of Thunder and below, and was mainly to nerf Bards.

[lethdar]

looooool splurt

[Knuckle]

new red99 meme when bad player gets gibbed, Splurted Bro.

[Nirgon]

Uh like winged death didnt tear people up, yeah ok. Envenomed bolt didn't either.

/rolleyes

You know dots can be dispelled and cured right?
(ps: make sure cure poison/disease counters work correctly in pvp, 1 click removal for EB was no bueno in previous emu implementations)

[Nirgon]

i was so mad when you could only do 33% of someones life on my wizard, even with Manaburn, was a late change but made me quit my wizard on live

You mighta missed when resists got so high that lures even got resisted sometimes and even scrubs'd fully resist base line non lures.