Yellow text??? wtf

[Estrang]

This deserves its own thread, if I'm being trolled, fuck you.

There is absolutely *NO* reason to leave in the yellow text broadcast when a player is killed. Why on earth would you include this, possibly the worst thing ever coded for everquest pvp on emu. It does several things:

1.) Gives the server a feeling of caution
2.) Exposes information on where some PVP action is taking place.
3.) Ruins a player's reputation across the server.
4.) Causes players to be griefed and bindcamping/corpse camping

[Sniperfire]

this is possibly the most blue shit i have ever read
translation:
please take out the yellow text
my self esteem cant take the pressure
every time i die i just know people are talking about me
people will know i suck
HELP

[Cwall]

o lawdy

[xshayla701]

uhhhhh lol

[SearyxTZ]

http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1310429527116.jpg

[Vile]

wait wat

[Littlegyno]

am i being trolled

[Rogean]

There is absolutely *NO* reason to leave in the yellow text broadcast when a player is killed.

I don't get it.. LEAVE it in?...It was never there to begin with.. what makes you think it was?

I don't understand why so many people are using that context...

[pasi]

http://i52.tinypic.com/4r4z6v.png

[YendorLootmonkey]

http://i52.tinypic.com/4r4z6v.png

ROFL

[Vile]

http://vilesyntax.com/images/donttrollmebro.jpg

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46366

[Harrison]

I don't get it.. LEAVE it in?...It was never there to begin with.. what makes you think it was?

I don't understand why so many people are using that context...

You haven't come to the conclusion most of us have, yet?

VZTZjects don't know what anything is like or was like, outside of that failbox.

[Macken]

This ain't VZTZ

This is MY box. This is Project 1999 Red.

Ya'll best be gettin' used to it.

Well said.

[Knuckle]

Jaydee is trolling you guys my account name is "Knuckle". Although I was tempted to not say anything and enjoy the fact that he got Rogean to respond. I'm terribly dissapointed Rogean trolled back and said yellow text wasn't going to be in. Shows the players have no voice.

[Macken]

You have a voice.

It's just when you get it just like you want it, it will say Knuckle99 on the select screen instead of Rogean99.

[Harrison]

Players have a voice. Just not the retards who have proven they kill boxes CONSISTENTLY.

[Lasher]

I don't get it.. LEAVE it in?...It was never there to begin with.. what makes you think it was?

I don't understand why so many people are using that context...

You responded to a troll account

[Knuckle]

You have a voice.

It's just when you get it just like you want it, it will say Knuckle99 on the select screen instead of Rogean99.

Knuckle + 100s of players that like yellow text 99

[Smedy]

I don't get it.. LEAVE it in?...It was never there to begin with.. what makes you think it was?

I don't understand why so many people are using that context...

Knuckle was one of the tri-force leaders of the wipe committee who were responsible for the ultimate death of vztz.

Don't get trolled pal

[Ennoia]

Jaydee is trolling you guys my account name is "Knuckle". Although I was tempted to not say anything and enjoy the fact that he got Rogean to respond. I'm terribly dissapointed Rogean trolled back and said yellow text wasn't going to be in. Shows the players have no voice.

You do have a voice, but the majority of the VZTZ community has shown they're immature shitbags who just want to grief people, so the boss has to be really wary of who is actually being serious and who is trying to just troll him into ruining his server. Rogean putting his name on a server means his credibility is at stake when it launches. While some things are up for debate, certain things he knows are going to just cause problems won't happen, end of story.

Have faith. He wouldn't be putting the time into this to make sure everything is up to the standard his players hold him to if he didn't think it would all work out.

[Vendar]

You haven't come to the conclusion most of us have, yet? VZTZjects don't know what anything is like or was like, outside of that failbox.

the biggest problem in my opinion is that most of the vztz people have never played on Rogeans server (p99), and so they really are not familiar with how that works. they have not played on a box that could be as live like as P99, and so they do not understand that R99 will most likely be exactly the same as a EQLive PvP server back before kunark (minus the obvious exploits/dupes that will be fixed from jump street). but i mean, any custom features like yellow text, leaderboards, and zone wide ooc will most likely not exist because those features are not from the era. (and dont nobody spew crap about Sullon Zek, that was a cess pool made up of mostly scumbags that thought they know how to pvp because they could train, oh and SZ didnt exist in 1999)

the VZTZ crowd still strongly believe that (like VZTZ server always was) the R99 server will just be a mad rush to level cap and then, commence the frag fest like a FPS (ie: CoD Black Ops). they have not yet realized that the majority of the P99 players heading over there are doing so to simply play EQ but with PvP turned on... that is very different than just PvPing on an EQ server. the blue guilds will probably not be going zone to zone to slay the world, they will EQ and PvP "as needed" whereas the VZTZ guilds will be PvPing and will do PvE if/when needed.

the "cool" kids from VZTZ will most likely make up the "evil PKer guilds" all the blue forum warriors will either become the antiPKers, or helpless victims that simply cannot understand that they will literally have to defend their camps, or why anyone would want to attack them without a "reason".

n'joy!

[Pudge]

this is harrison:
http://kimkinscam.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/sheep-wolf.jpg
:lamb in wolf mask

[Harrison]

Do you want to fuck with a wolf with huge horns?

Didn't think so.

[Sniperfire]

I don't get it.. LEAVE it in?...It was never there to begin with.. what makes you think it was?

I don't understand why so many people are using that context...

because most of us have played for years with it and most of us arent as concerned with having the server the way it was on release in 99 we just want to pvp in the classic era. i respect your p99 and the whole project as a whole but the pvp community just wants to kill people and we want everyone to know when we kill them,

[nilbog]

We are not recreating VZTZ.

VZTZ 'regulars(?)', you may be the most vocal majority on the forums at the moment, but at r99 server release, you won't be the majority of the playerbase.

We are not recreating VZTZ.

Do not have this expectation.



sources: p99 project manager, pvper, former vztz player

[Sniperfire]

We are not recreating VZTZ.

VZTZ 'regulars(?)', you may be the most vocal majority on the forums at the moment, but at r99 server release, you won't be the majority of the playerbase.

We are not recreating VZTZ.

Do not have this expectation.



sources: p99 project manager, pvper, former vztz player

stop hating on us he asked why we used that context i explained its quite simple none of us has asked or expects you to recreate tz/vz i think we expect a much more stable and working server as a whole

[juicedsixfo]

I don't get it.. LEAVE it in?...It was never there to begin with.. what makes you think it was?

I don't understand why so many people are using that context...

It's because their EQ PvP experience evolves around VZTZ 1.0-3.0 boxes and not actual live Classic EverQuest.

[juicedsixfo]

VZTZ 'regulars(?)', you may be the most vocal majority on the forums at the moment, but at r99 server release, you won't be the majority of the playerbase.


All 12 of them are having a very hard time understanding this it seems.

[Sniperfire]

It's because their EQ PvP experience evolves around VZTZ 1.0-3.0 boxes and not actual live Classic EverQuest.

i was savra <hate> on live i played on the hardest pvp server out till merge... all of us played live man.. your taking 2 points and combining them, were talking about things that effect population on an emulated server so were talkin about past emu servers if rogean was starting a live server we would talk about live

[juicedsixfo]

i was savra <hate> on live i played on the hardest pvp server out till merge... all of us played live man.. your taking 2 points and combining them, were talking about things that effect population on an emulated server so were talkin about past emu servers if rogean was starting a live server we would talk about live

Well, unfortunately for you I believe Red99 is going to be "classic classic" and not just "classic era." I could be wrong.

This topic has been beaten to death. PvP, in and of itself, is incentive enough. All you need is the ability to fight other players. It doesn't need to be incentivized: this is not shit box 5.0. The "gotta make PvP Happen™" train of thought spawned during the box days when there was 60 people on a server and the majority of the community wanted as many FPS aspects into the game as they could incorporate as the sole objective was just to fight. As bad as the 12 of you want it, that will not be the sole objective here. Maybe for you it is, but not the majority. And feel free to play that way, by all means, it's a PvP server for fuck's sake and it will need it's PK crowd. But Red99 isn't catering to them.

[Sniperfire]

im personally not asking for anyone to cater to me i am asking questions and sharing what i have noticed over the years its not me that has to shit talk the former tz/vz community every time i differ in opinion or barf out shit about how we dont know what were talking about our whole eq lives were on emu rtz/vz etc...

[Yukahwa]

Yellow text is totally unnecessary on a real PVP server with actual population, I think its hilarious that this arguement is even happening. Real successful PVP servers on live never had it until they were way way past their prime.

[Knuckle]

Yellow text is totally unnecessary on a real PVP server with actual population, I think its hilarious that this arguement is even happening. Real successful PVP servers on live never had it until they were way way past their prime.

Yeah and real live blue servers had 2,000+ concurrent players, your logic is infallible! Idiot.

[Sniperfire]

Yellow text is totally unnecessary on a real PVP server with actual population, I think its hilarious that this arguement is even happening. Real successful PVP servers on live never had it until they were way way past their prime.

dude your talking about a server with literaly thousands of people not a couple hundred and again its just something a few people are wanting and have asked about i like YT i like to see who kills who etc maybe tone it down and keep the zone name out but what is the big deal with "sniperfire has slain soandso" really?>

(edit) haha knuckle beat me to the idiot card

[Yukahwa]

I know there are a lot less players, but is it really so hard to find them? There are like 3 zones per level range. When I am out PKing the last thing I want is for people in befallen to know I just killed some poor old chap in unrest.

And then you bring up the "not classic" to argue against /enemy

[Convict]

Well, unfortunately for you I believe Red99 is going to be "classic classic" and not just "classic era." I could be wrong.

This topic has been beaten to death. PvP, in and of itself, is incentive enough. All you need is the ability to fight other players. It doesn't need to be incentivized: this is not shit box 5.0. The "gotta make PvP Happen™" train of thought spawned during the box days when there was 60 people on a server and the majority of the community wanted as many FPS aspects into the game as they could incorporate as the sole objective was just to fight. As bad as the 12 of you want it, that will not be the sole objective here. Maybe for you it is, but not the majority. And feel free to play that way, by all means, it's a PvP server for fuck's sake and it will need it's PK crowd. But Red99 isn't catering to them.
/endthread

[Buhbuh]

Yellow text wouldn't be terrible for the people who like that recognition. I think it's mostly for that reputation of being a killer rather than "where the PvP at!?"

EQlive without YT made it so that people weren't aware of what fights were going on. I honestly think it was better that way, as a personal preference. It catered more to everybody. YT with given zone names meant an instant gank squad would port in at any time. The most interesting fights (to me) are the 1v1's or the equally balanced mass PvP battles.

I think what we all saw on TZVZ were situations where someone was often two boxxing and then owns one dude from a higher up guild, thereby sparking this influx of players to that zone just to make it right or grief or whatever.

There needs to be a certain amount of anonymity to PvP. Some classes are built with that as their strength, and oftentimes players like to play the game that way.

[XiakenjaTZ]

I agree with the two people above

[Yukahwa]

Yup. You nailed it dudes.