WoW PvP Server [Vanilla]

[freakyuno]

For those interested...and I know there's a few - I've almost completed work on a vanilla wow pvp server. It uses the client 1.12.1, which you can read more about here:

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patches/1.x

It utilizes a server side database that's accurate for the time, it's compiled in c++, and runs off mysql, not that much different than eqemu to be honest. The open source software it's built on is called Mangos, which is nowhere near as mature as the EQEmu installation, but overall not bad.

EDIT:

The server is completed and up and running. You can visit the site, and get the information you need to play here:
http://wowvanilla.dyndns.org

Register a login account and go!
Also please register a forum account
http://wowvanilla.dyndns.org/forum

Your forum account and login account are seperate.




http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2199/wowserver.jpg

[Deattas]

in b4 hackers/cheaters

[Misto]

Have you tested all the quests? and scripted the bosses?

I've been waiting for Project Westfall to finish testing. But its been almost a year so far lol.

They use Mangos to.

[freakyuno]

Have you tested all the quests? and scripted the bosses?

I've been waiting for Project Westfall to finish testing. But its been almost a year so far lol.

They use Mangos to.

I've just started testing, but everything I've come across so far is working just fine.

[Misto]

i know project westfall is looking for developers. should give them a look.

Making a classic server by your self seems like alot of work. =X

[freakyuno]

i know project westfall is looking for developers. should give them a look.

Making a classic server by your self seems like alot of work. =X

I've been waiting for Project Westfall to finish testing. But its been almost a year so far lol.

No offense man, I'm sure it's going to be a lot of work - but not really interested in jumping into a project that's been going a year with no release. Sounds kind of like eqclassic.org to me.

[eastadam55]

sounds like fun

[Ennoia]

People who refer to pre-BC WoW as 'Vanilla' are usually terrible. This thread really should be in off-topic since it has nothing to do with P99 PvP.

[Misto]

People who refer to pre-BC WoW as 'Vanilla' are usually terrible. This thread really should be in off-topic since it has nothing to do with P99 PvP.

You're cool.

P99 doesn't have any PVP.

[muffins]

People who refer to pre-BC WoW as 'Vanilla' are usually terrible. This thread really should be in off-topic since it has nothing to do with P99 PvP.

Yeah because this forum is soooo incredibly active it is going to cause you so much fucking inconvenience.

Shut the fuck up retard.

[TR Spokesman]

Vanilla wow is referred to as Vanilla because only fags refer to it as "Pre-bc wow"

Also, Vanilla wow pvp = headshot pvp

[Knuckle]

this is some major flame material....however vanilla wow was a pretty Ace game from what i heard...i might be down to remake knukle orc rogue. my emulated legend toon...i seriously RAPED emulatoed WOW servers.

[TR Spokesman]

this is some major flame material....however vanilla wow was a pretty Ace game from what i heard...i might be down to remake knukle orc rogue. my emulated legend toon...i seriously RAPED emulatoed WOW servers.

I played WoW(original) from 2days after release until a week before tbc hit. It was the most fun i've ever had playing an mmo.

Large raids, awesome world pvp and instanced pvp ( Week long AV battles ) and shit was mostly balanced. (every class could just about 1shot another).

WoW was more streamlined than EQ and pvp was/is definitely better.

I doubt any emulated WoW server will ever offer close to the same experience that WoW did originally, but who knows. I'd definitely be on board if it could swing players like p99 does.

[SearyxTZ]

instanced pve content (and later, instanced everything) = fail
no cross-team communication = fail
etc




WoW "world PVP" was utterly pointless. Zerging eachother in Hillsbrad.... for what? The 15 second ghosted CR?

The reason I'm still playing classic EQ here is because of these problems. I could write a novel about the things I hated about the WoW PvP system. I even tried to get the devs to respond to a long ass thread I made trying to get support for an alternate "hardcore" PvP server. I'd play FFXI before I ever play WoW again.

[TR Spokesman]

instanced pve content (and later, instanced everything) = fail
no cross-team communication = fail
etc




WoW "world PVP" was utterly pointless. Zerging eachother in Hillsbrad.... for what? The 15 second ghosted CR?

The reason I'm still playing classic EQ here is because of these problems. I could write a novel about the things I hated about the WoW PvP system. I even tried to get the devs to respond to a long ass thread I made trying to get support for an alternate "hardcore" PvP server. I'd play FFXI before I ever play WoW again.

Instanced pve wasn't so bad, and there were still world raid targets. (often outside raid instances you'd have wars during prime time)

World pvp was pointless because they went different directions back then and then scrap'd it. It was still fun.

Also, not being able to communicate easily thru chat isn't really a bad thing either. Plenty of other ways to communicate from one side to the other.

Original WoW pvp is still > EQ pvp imo (least pvp on p99).

[freakyuno]

instanced pve content (and later, instanced everything) = fail
no cross-team communication = fail
etc




WoW "world PVP" was utterly pointless. Zerging eachother in Hillsbrad.... for what? The 15 second ghosted CR?

The reason I'm still playing classic EQ here is because of these problems. I could write a novel about the things I hated about the WoW PvP system. I even tried to get the devs to respond to a long ass thread I made trying to get support for an alternate "hardcore" PvP server. I'd play FFXI before I ever play WoW again.

Pretty much everything you do in an MMO is pointless, especially in an emu. :)

I've already solved the cross team communication, I've created variables that controll the following:
Crossteam talk
Crossteam group
Crossteam char creation
Crossteam auction house
Crossteam channels

Right now I've got everything crossteam turned on. Not every mmo is for everyone, so I wont argue your preferences - to each his own.

Edit: By the way, this client supports the honor system, as well as the diminising returns system. :)

[Bardalicious]

The best part about WoW PVP? The high population made it somewhat enjoyable. I just don't see that happening in an emu.

[eastadam55]

i could try to get a few ppl in on it and ill advertise on some other forums

[freakyuno]

i could try to get a few ppl in on it and ill advertise on some other forums

Sweet!

It's not uncommon for a good private server to reach 1k population, whether or not this one will be good remains to be seen.

I just feel like there's plenty of EQEmu PvP servers in this space. Image and DevNoob are doing a great job with Red69, and the Red99 release will kind of culminate the pvp servers. With the population, there really isn't even room for 2 servers, much less 3.

I'll keep the VZTZ server running as long as there's players on it - but there hasn't been any players on it for days...lol

I just finished up, and tested the code that elminates instanced PvE. Things like UBRS, BRD, Molten Core, Strat...They are still instanced, but everyone on the server shares the same instance. No more scurrying into a PvE instance to escape PVP!

I'll have the server up tonight at latest. Doing some final testing, and getting the website put up (required for account creation and such), with info on the client, the patches you need (which should all be obtainable from fileplanet). And the server info you need to get logged in.

[Aerist]

Sweet!

It's not uncommon for a good private server to reach 1k population, whether or not this one will be good remains to be seen.

I just feel like there's plenty of EQEmu PvP servers in this space. Image and DevNoob are doing a great job with Red69, and the Red99 release will kind of culminate the pvp servers. With the population, there really isn't even room for 2 servers, much less 3.

I'll keep the VZTZ server running as long as there's players on it - but there hasn't been any players on it for days...lol

I just finished up, and tested the code that elminates instanced PvE. Things like UBRS, BRD, Molten Core, Strat...They are still instanced, but everyone on the server shares the same instance. No more scurrying into a PvE instance to escape PVP!

I'll have the server up tonight at latest. Doing some final testing, and getting the website put up (required for account creation and such), with info on the client, the patches you need (which should all be obtainable from fileplanet). And the server info you need to get logged in.

One of the major things that WOW failed to realize was the need for competition. By making MC and the other raid zones instanced there really was no epic fights for zone control against good/evil. This statement alone will entice me to check this out, I hope you get some help but it sounds like a great WOW pvp experience.

[Ennoia]

With all of the raid zones being shared instances what is the respawn time on the bosses going to be?

Are you planning on adding in BC/Wrath/Cataclysm in the future?

[TR Spokesman]

With all of the raid zones being shared instances what is the respawn time on the bosses going to be?

Are you planning on adding in BC/Wrath/Cataclysm in the future?

BC would be nice, especially with the rogue Shs/Hemo builds.... /drool

[Ennoia]

BC would be nice, especially with the rogue Shs/Hemo builds.... /drool

The most fun I had in WoW was during BC.

[Ennoia]

I played WoW(original) from 2days after release until a week before tbc hit. It was the most fun i've ever had playing an mmo.

Large raids, awesome world pvp and instanced pvp ( Week long AV battles ) and shit was mostly balanced. (every class could just about 1shot another).

WoW was more streamlined than EQ and pvp was/is definitely better.

I doubt any emulated WoW server will ever offer close to the same experience that WoW did originally, but who knows. I'd definitely be on board if it could swing players like p99 does.

I can probably get the majority of the people left from Offline/Super Secret Buddies BFF to play.

[Ennoia]

So...website where to get files and stuff?

Also, will any add-ons be working?

[freakyuno]

I really havent put any thought into expansions yet, but if in the future, the population supports expanding - that wont be a problem, the content is readily available...more so in fact than the older clients and content.

Currently instance spawning / reset is on a fixed timer, like it was on live WoW. I have full control over that timer, and I plan on integrating it into a player command to check the time. When a force capable of raiding that content enters the zone, it'll start the timer, whether they complete the instance or not. The full way I implement this will be up for discussion, but currently it's a flat time till the instance fully resets.

I think there will be some seriously strategic fights for content, especially after a raid force clears through something like MC...the further in you get, the higher chance there'll be for competition!

I'm getting the website up now, should be up in the next 30 minutes or so, just doing some finishing touches on it, and getting it hooked to the database, the website will have the following features:

1.) Create Login Accounts
2.) Check your chars and their profiles
3.) Player view (gear, quests, honor...etc)
4.) World map, with player marking (for discussion)
5.) Auction house listing
6.) Forums, tied to your in game char / profile
7.) Players online / Guilds Online / GM's Online
8.) Voting bonuses on the site (to be discussed) - The bonuses can be things like gold, character recustomization...etc
9.) More to come....

Any add-ons that worked durring the 1.12.1 / 1.12.2 phase of the game, will work and be available to use, unless it's determined that it compromises fair play, the server integrity, or otherwise is considered a hack / cheat. In which case server side I have the ability to block add-ons.

[Envious]

Searyx just mad he missed the Circle Noir / Rabble days on Tichondrius.

Was good times.

[freakyuno]

Site is located at:

http://wowvanilla.dyndns.org

It's not complete, but the major features should be working, feel free to play around.

[Ennoia]

Are you going to do anything like donator gear or keep it an even playing field for everyone?

[Ennoia]

Text image captcha for creating an account isn't showing up.

Not showing up with Firefox or Internet Explorer.

[freakyuno]

Text image captcha for creating an account isn't showing up.

Ahh, good catch, lemme turn it off.

[freakyuno]

Ahh, good catch, lemme turn it off.

fixt

Ignore the game guide, fixing that page now. :)

[Ennoia]

Any idea when the forums might be up?

[freakyuno]

Any idea when the forums might be up?

Getting them setup now. I just updated the game guide, and the server is ready to connect to, though it wont be "live" for a day or two - it wont be wiped, so you're good to go.

[Ennoia]

Getting them setup now. I just updated the game guide, and the server is ready to connect to, though it wont be "live" for a day or two - it wont be wiped, so you're good to go.

Reinstalling WoW. In your setup guide it says patch 3.2.2 will work, but WoW is up to like 4.1...how do you make it stop at 3.2.2?

[freakyuno]

Reinstalling WoW. In your setup guide it says patch 3.2.2 will work, but WoW is up to like 4.1...how do you make it stop at 3.2.2?

Refresh the guide. It's Vanilla Wow only, which means you need 1.12.1 or 1.12.2

From retail you need this file:
http://www.fileplanet.com/150253/150000/fileinfo/World-of-Warcraft-Patch---v1.12-[Full-English]

Then this file:
http://www.fileplanet.com/168229/160000/fileinfo/World-of-Warcraft-Patch-v1.12---v1.12.1

I'll get this on my forums and in my guide when I have some time.

[Ennoia]

The only players showing up on the character list are all level 60 with the exception of a single level 1...this isn't an instant 60 server, is it?

[freakyuno]

The only players showing up on the character list are all level 60 with the exception of a single level 1...this isn't an instant 60 server, is it?

Nope, that was me - doing some testing, gonna have to grind it out the old fashioned way. :)

[Scribbles]

wuts xp like

[Deattas]

So is this available or no?

[Bardalicious]

Looks 2 b up to me. Search TPB for World of Warcraft and grab the version 1.12.1 download imo. Has like 300 some seeders.

[Deattas]

Yea I've got the client and realmlist pointed at wowvanilla.dyndns.org, realm comes up after logon, but it seems to time out or something just before character selection screen.

[georgie]

hey let me get in on that. i was trying to install some other vanilla server but couldn't figure it out with the editing files and all. just want a game to get me through this wait. ya hea'

[Bardalicious]

It looks pretty easy to set up. Just download the 1.12.1 client from TPB and check out freakyuno's website setup guide. looks like u only have to edit 1 file after you install.

[georgie]

okay i already had it downloaded, what file do i edit.


done.. anyone want to duo undead war

[Aerist]

Booting up the old warcraft disks now, actually excited about this def need to get some people together to play on it.

Shody

[freakyuno]

Server is denying connections on some subnets right now. I believe it's an issue with my routing table. I'm working on it now.

[freakyuno]

All fixed.

[Aerist]

so if I make a toon tonight it won't get wiped ever?

[freakyuno]

so if I make a toon tonight it won't get wiped ever?

Correct, no wipes, ever. The WoW emulator servers have MUCH better tools for handling issues that come up, because the client is better, without having to wipe the server to clear up things that have happened.

[eastadam55]

cant wait to play a warlock!

[Aerist]

great, hopefully we can get a good population for it. Big question is however, what all needs to be fixed and shit for it to be a stable and viable server?

[eastadam55]

i can' t find my cds, anyone have any other source of dling vanilla?

[Aerist]

just noticed there are other vanilla wow servers already out there, doubtful they are non instanced though =(

[georgie]

i can' t find my cds, anyone have any other source of dling vanilla?

i saw someone type in, 'world of warcraft 1.12' on piratebay.org. and clicked the one that has the word client added to it.

for the horde. :cool:

[eastadam55]

i dont want no virus :( ima wait till i get my laptop to get this and look for my cds in the mean time

[Bardalicious]

i dont want no virus :( ima wait till i get my laptop to get this and look for my cds in the mean time

lol u arent gonna get a virus from a wow client download specifically hosted to let ppl play on wow emu servers

[eastadam55]

i was thinking about reactivating my wow subscription but now i kinda wanna play this, but ihave a feeling the pop will be like 50

[georgie]

you wont get a virus, it's good this is the 2nd time im downloading it.. trust me and you don't have a firewall anyway?

[Haul]

WoW is gay.

[eastadam55]

you wont get a virus, it's good this is the 2nd time im downloading it.. trust me and you don't have a firewall anyway?

lol a shitload of viruses can get past a firewall

[georgie]

it's good dude relax. you can wait if you want. just don't be mad when griefed in westfall

[eastadam55]

actually fuck it, im dling this shit tom i found my cds

[georgie]

i got a question. i dl'd it....i guess when i click on the one of the patches says mine is 1.12.1.5875 but requires 1.12.1.5595.
what do i do?

[Doors]

instanced pve content (and later, instanced everything) = fail
no cross-team communication = fail
etc




WoW "world PVP" was utterly pointless. Zerging eachother in Hillsbrad.... for what? The 15 second ghosted CR?

The reason I'm still playing classic EQ here is because of these problems. I could write a novel about the things I hated about the WoW PvP system. I even tried to get the devs to respond to a long ass thread I made trying to get support for an alternate "hardcore" PvP server. I'd play FFXI before I ever play WoW again.

Agreed.

[eastadam55]

whats the population at most do you think this server will hit? im trying my best and putting it out there for more ppl

[eastadam55]

i like the player map on the site, making it easy to track down targets for pvp.

[georgie]

hey estadam what you rolling horde? lets grp

[georgie]

i think i'm only one horde lol

[eastadam55]

yeah im going undead

[georgie]

are you close to done?

[eastadam55]

still torrenting :(

[Bardalicious]

I shall b done d/ling tomorrow to join and quell the forces of evil.

[georgie]

im on my tauren hunter already.

[Ennoia]

Server/site keeps going down...and I'm almost done reinstalling!

[eastadam55]

usually wow emu servers hit pop in the thousands so we gotta get more players on this

[Ennoia]

usually wow emu servers hit pop in the thousands so we gotta get more players on this

The site being down makes that kinda hard.

[freakyuno]

The site being down makes that kinda hard.

It's up, was making some changes to it, and getting my forums up and running, which are almost done.

I had to remove some features that were causing some problems, but they'll come back - like the honor standings, and the playermap.

[eastadam55]

the website is still down for me

[freakyuno]

the website is still down for me

Try again.

[eastadam55]

up

[Aerist]

Server looks great in theory, however Freak will need to market it heavily due to the simple fact that unless all the mobs are dummied down, even the normal MC mobs are gonna require raid forces of 40+

[Bardalicious]

Server looks great in theory, however Freak will need to market it heavily due to the simple fact that unless all the mobs are dummied down, even the normal MC mobs are gonna require raid forces of 40+

server will need 2 b marketed heavily anyways if theres any hope of fun pvp occuring on a semi regular basis

[eastadam55]

im doing my best to help advertise it by putting it up on other forums and talking to ppl i know, im hoping this server gets bigger in population.

[Aerist]

server will need 2 b marketed heavily anyways if theres any hope of fun pvp occuring on a semi regular basis

Totally agree man, this era of pvp for WOW was by far the best, add actually competing for MC and shit and you've got the makings for a pretty epic game.

We'd need at least 200 to 300 people on for excellent pvp's at least 150 on each side

[Aerist]

Freaky question that has to be asked, Is WOW Glider illegal?

[Bardalicious]

Freaky question that has to be asked, Is WOW Glider illegal?

I'm assuming the "No hax" rule would cover this. WoW Glider is the auto lvl bot right?

[freakyuno]

Freaky question that has to be asked, Is WOW Glider illegal?

Honestly, right now I dont see why I'd make it illegal - so for now the answer is no, as a glider, you're a SUPER easy PvP target, so I think that ballances things out.

[Aerist]

Honestly, right now I dont see why I'd make it illegal - so for now the answer is no, as a glider, you're a SUPER easy PvP target, so I think that ballances things out.

Yeah thats what I was thinking, thanks for letting me know

[freakyuno]

I'm assuming the "No hax" rule would cover this. WoW Glider is the auto lvl bot right?

I wouldn't really consider it a hack. I used to work on the mod team that did ppather for Glider.

Honestly, I doubt you'll be able to find glider binaries that'll work with a server this version - but if you can, more power to you.

So that you know, I can detect Glider server side, so at any point if I make it against the rules, you'll know...I'll know you're using it. :)

[Aerist]

I wouldn't really consider it a hack. I used to work on the mod team that did ppather for Glider.

Honestly, I doubt you'll be able to find glider binaries that'll work with a server this version - but if you can, more power to you.

So that you know, I can detect Glider server side, so at any point if I make it against the rules, you'll know...I'll know you're using it. :)

yeah fair enough, was looking around i don't think i could get a safe glider version even if i wanted to

[eastadam55]

yeah freaky you gotta start advertising a lot if this server is going to go somewhere.

[freakyuno]

I'm marketing this server on every site I can find, but word of mouth from players is what's going to do it.

Because there is no "single captive audience" for this server on forums anywhere (like the 2000+ EQ players that can be reached through this message board) - it'll take a little time too. My goal, is in a month, to have 1000+ players online in peak times. I think we can do that if we all reign in everyone that we know that likes WoW even a little...I mean it's free...come'on! lol

I'm getting the "Voting" feature hooked up on the website, which will allow you to vote for the site, and that'll publish on internet sites, which will help. It'll also allow rewards in game for voting: Like character re-customization, or small amounts of gold.

[Aerist]

freaky it also won't let me download the second patch says This update does not need to be applied. It requires a version of "WoW.exe" older than 1.12.0.5595, but you already have version 1.12.0.5595.

[eastadam55]

there any way of making a world wide chat channel

[eastadam55]

servers down again

[Ennoia]

Freaky, can you do like a server-wide 'Server coming down in X minutes' when you do updates, just so we don't keep getting surprising kicks? Aside from some LoS issues we're finding looks good so far.

[Bardalicious]

Ya I doubt you'll find working Glider type proggies for 1.12 anyways, unless you download source and fix the the offsets yourself.

[eastadam55]

Freaky, can you do like a server-wide 'Server coming down in X minutes' when you do updates, just so we don't keep getting surprising kicks? Aside from some LoS issues we're finding looks good so far.

yeah im right infront of the target and trying to cast a spell but saying targets not los

[Aerist]

anyone know where i can download questhelper that works with this emu

[freakyuno]

Try this one:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CC9ZMIEB

[Bardalicious]

awesome. lol of course i make an alliance char and now theres about 8 to 2 alliance to horde.

[georgie]

freaky it also won't let me download the second patch says This update does not need to be applied. It requires a version of "WoW.exe" older than 1.12.0.5595, but you already have version 1.12.0.5595.

i think you can just play then, i had same message but i had a newer version and it worked after just playing

[eastadam55]

awesome. lol of course i make an alliance char and now theres about 8 to 2 alliance to horde.

roll horde bro right now its at a 4-3 ratio a-h

[georgie]

this is some major flame material....however vanilla wow was a pretty Ace game from what i heard...i might be down to remake knukle orc rogue. my emulated legend toon...i seriously RAPED emulatoed WOW servers.

come play. i'm in durotar now.

[eastadam55]

got a guild up and running, join up

[Aum]

Almost done downloading, I want to roll a dwarf priest for fear ward, but going UD if it's lopsided.

[Aum]

PS: Decent talent calculator here, you can select the exact version of WoW you're running so it should be pretty close to what's on this server.


http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_5

[eastadam55]

PS: Decent talent calculator here, you can select the exact version of WoW you're running so it should be pretty close to what's on this server.


http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_5

awesome

[Jaleean]

WoW lost its integrity after Vanilla, quite sad, really. Glad theres emulated servers that allow you to enjoy the experience again! :)

[georgie]

Almost done downloading, I want to roll a dwarf priest for fear ward, but going UD if it's lopsided.

roll that undead war. need tank WC thx

[Aum]

roll that undead war. need tank WC thx

I'd rather throw my laptop out the window than run WC.

[bakkily]

yea i had a friend buy me cataclysm a few months ago for my bday, but so i installed it last week, did the free week pass, still had some heirloom gear from over a year and a half ago when i use to play, and made a hunter, lvld him from 1-50 like that

playing 4-5 hours each day while getting my shaman though i played for about 5 hours, within a week shaman 80-82, and a hunter 1-50, this games so easy now

was cool to see how they changed things in the game, just glad they got rid of all stupid badges you use have to get for gear, left with tier 8 gear on shaman which was decent then with a gear score of what was 8500 then

trying to debate whether to start playing eq again, or get my wow account up, heh hell can play both, i just like wow for the bg's and pvp, but then i dont mind the quick running through dungeons

i usally play mmo's to see the content, not to be the best

[georgie]

yea i had a friend buy me cataclysm a few months ago for my bday, but so i installed it last week, did the free week pass, still had some heirloom gear from over a year and a half ago when i use to play, and made a hunter, lvld him from 1-50 like that

playing 4-5 hours each day while getting my shaman though i played for about 5 hours, within a week shaman 80-82, and a hunter 1-50, this games so easy now

was cool to see how they changed things in the game, just glad they got rid of all stupid badges you use have to get for gear, left with tier 8 gear on shaman which was decent then with a gear score of what was 8500 then

trying to debate whether to start playing eq again, or get my wow account up, heh hell can play both, i just like wow for the bg's and pvp, but then i dont mind the quick running through dungeons

i usally play mmo's to see the content, not to be the best

F any modern mmo atm. play this !

[Aum]

Disregard me, I'm really fucking stupid~

[georgie]

Disregard me, I'm really fucking stupid~

go war, ill carry you thru get u that herod

[Aum]

go war, ill carry you thru get u that herod

extracting now, i'm down... I was thinking this was 1.1.2 and there was no chance in fucking hell I was playing a warrior and suffering through shit for 8 patches worth of time.

[eastadam55]

i fucked it up so i gotta resinstall

[Bardalicious]

Ballin' level 5 undead priest yo. My boy georgie hooked up teh spell money, thanks pal.

Seems like the server could be quite a bit of fun so far if we get enough people in on it.

p.s. bbl tonight for more xps

[eastadam55]

bloodlust, best guild on the server yo

[bakkily]

yea, the only time i played wow was durring the orignal era, was super hardcore then, one of the top hunters on bloodscalp in 04-06, i quit a few months before tbc, after the first expansion i was sorta bleh on it, though i liked the idea of the expansion, the way progression was a bit better in a way

i remember back in orig wow you hit lvl 60, geared in the lower dungeons, then hit up mc, but back at this time i was a junior/senior in high school, and was a year apart when i left eq, did all the hard core raids then, time the god zones, a little of oow

only reason i sorta still play wow is some of my family plays that, and wont come to this server, got my pops to play, then he said f it, going back to wow since all his friends play that

so do you guys play a wow emulator? or on live wow

[Bardalicious]

bloodlust, best guild on the server yo

u herd da man

[eastadam55]

we needto get a bigger population on this server, spread the word

[connect]

http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/5076223/World_of_Warcraft_Client_-_Version_1.12.1_enUS_-_Windows.5076223.TPB.torrent

Good link for the torrent. seed it up!

[eastadam55]

i torrented from there

[Bardalicious]

I think i found a huge archive of addons for the 1.12.1 client we are using. Like 100+ addons or something like that. I'm gonna test them out tonight or tom and I'll throw a link up if they end up working.

[freakyuno]

I think i found a huge archive of addons for the 1.12.1 client we are using. Like 100+ addons or something like that. I'm gonna test them out tonight or tom and I'll throw a link up if they end up working.

Very cool, nice work! The ones that work we'll officially sponsor on the website.

[eastadam55]

population is slowly coming up, but i have a feeling it is going to rise a lot. vanilla was popular

[eastadam55]

georgie bard, we merged with super friendship guild or w.e, so hop on in ill toss ya an inv

[Ennoia]

georgie bard, we merged with super friendship guild or w.e, so hop on in ill toss ya an inv

<Super Secret Buddies BFF> the premier PvP and Raiding guild of...whatever the hell the server is called.

[georgie]

extracting now, i'm down... I was thinking this was 1.1.2 and there was no chance in fucking hell I was playing a warrior and suffering through shit for 8 patches worth of time.

ok georgie, orc hunter. on dat roster son

[eastadam55]

spread the word ya'll, make this shit popular

[Onry]

Is it team based (horde alliance), race based, or guild based pvp?

[eastadam55]

team based

[Pringles]

Online: 5
Accounts: 29 (22 Active)


You sorta need people to..... I dont know, PVP?

I also see that every single person online right now is.... horde. LOL....

[eastadam55]

1st day at midnight........ rome wasn't built in a day bro

[Pringles]

1st day at midnight........ rome wasn't built in a day bro

It'll be AMAZING when everyone finally does make it - everyone else will be 60 and have tons of noobs to farm.

[Onry]

Any plans for coin loot? I loved Vanilla WoW but I always found the PvP lacking because there was nothing gained at all: no zone control, no coin loot, nothing. I'll still try this out either way but I think adding at least some coin loot would be a nice bonus!

[eastadam55]

i'd give it a week for the population to rise a bit

[Deadmantis]

Gonna check it out. Haven't played WoW in a while I forget what the vanilla is like. Downloading 1.12 now...

[Ennoia]

Any plans for coin loot? I loved Vanilla WoW but I always found the PvP lacking because there was nothing gained at all: no zone control, no coin loot, nothing. I'll still try this out either way but I think adding at least some coin loot would be a nice bonus!

Honor gear? Titles? PvP zone events (Eastern Plaguelands, Silithus)...plenty of PvP rewards.

[Onry]

Honor gear? Titles? PvP zone events (Eastern Plaguelands, Silithus)...plenty of PvP rewards.

Most of what you just mentioned didn't exist in Vanilla...

[Aum]

Most of what you just mentioned didn't exist in Vanilla...

Yes it did, it just took a few patches to get in.

As far as zone control, no there was nothing that flat out said "Horde owns this zone", but if you ganked the dominant faction in a zone typically you had 5 people gank you, and corpse camp you until you left. That's zone control enough for me.

[georgie]

Most of what you just mentioned didn't exist in Vanilla...

most but not all. the gear did look cool back then.

guys go alliance. it should be a 2-1 ratio alli-horde. i like plenty of alliance to kill.

[georgie]

just try it out. get those bgs in.

[Onry]

just try it out. get those bgs in.

Wait so... it's going to be a WoW PvP server and the battlegrounds is supposed to be where we get most of our PvP? Oh fuck me... if I wanted that kind of PvP I'd play TeamFortress. When I read "WoW PvP Server" and knew it would be emulated I figured "Ok someone is finally going to take Vanilla WoW and put a pair of proper PvP testicles on it" but if this is all we're doing I'm not sure how long that will last. How long do you suspect PvP BG queues will be on an emulated server?

[eastadam55]

the reason why world pvp died in wow is cause you could have qued anywhere, but you gotta que up in a major city in classic wow. that being said most of the world pvp will happen while leveling up, ganking groupers and raiders, and ppl just looking to have some world pvp.i think hes going to implement a world pvp reward system for getting honorable kills for exp to make world pvp more competitive.

[Aum]

There are effectively no instances as well - yes, you'll zone into another zone, but anyone else can enter your instance as well/they are all shared. There will be competition on all targets.

[Onry]

There are effectively no instances as well - yes, you'll zone into another zone, but anyone else can enter your instance as well/they are all shared. There will be competition on all targets.

Whoa.... whoa wait! This I can stick my PvP love rod into! So I'm running Deadmines and the horde can zone in and kill me? I like this a lot!

[eastadam55]

Whoa.... whoa wait! This I can stick my PvP love rod into! So I'm running Deadmines and the horde can zone in and kill me? I like this a lot!

im not sure if thats sarcasm, hard to detect over the internets

[eastadam55]

freaky i got some bugs to report where are ya

[Onry]

I'm being serious. One thing I always hated about WoW was instances serving as safezones on PvP servers.

[eastadam55]

join on up

[georgie]

and it's not every instance.

[freakyuno]

It should be every instance, if it's not let me know which ones arent static, and I'll get them fixed.

The battlegrounds are in, as a way for people to meet up, in a lower population world and do some PvP'ing.

Honor, pvp rewards, and titles are all in the game. Honorable & Dishonorable kills are in the game also. I dont remember the exact clientside check, but I know killing someone way below your level, or killing civilians will be dishonorable. I havent decided what to do with this yet - maybe just a listing on the website to show who's a high level ganking lower level players so everyone can give them hell in game. lol The important fact is, you cant rule a leaderboard farming lowbies.

There is also diminishing returns. So killing someone the first time results in X amount of honor, the second time results in (X / 2) the third time (X / 4) and after that no reward. Battlegrounds are exempt from this of course.

There's lots and lots to talk about, I'm working hard on the website and forums, They'll be up today or tomorrow and we'll go from there!

[Bardalicious]

I started testing some of these addons and they appear to be functional for the 1.12.1 client. I haven't tested nearly all of them nor do I intend to, there is literally hundreds of them. They are sorted in alphabetical folders.

Download the rar file here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?7zaf00k1g5667y1

And then you can use this website to search the addon folder names to figure out what they do, if it's not self-explanatory. Most have some sort of readme in their folder to explain functions though:

http://wow.curse.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=



You guys should help go through this archive and pick out the best addons then post your findings for the rest of us. It would be really helpful to know which ones are the best without having to go through all of them ourselves.

The ones I am trying out so far are:

Atlas (shows dungeon and battleground maps)

AtlasLoot (lists bosses and loot dropped in those maps)

AtlasQuest (lists quests for both horde and alliance for dungeons)

AutoProfit (automatically sells grey junk items to vendors for you)

BigWigs (basically the original Boss Mods afaik. Scripts raid fights to help give warnings about the fight as it progresses)

BuffWatch (can keep track of buffs on yourself / group / raid. Has single-click rebuffing functionality when buffs fade)

PVPLog (keeps logs and statistics of the people you have PVP'd against in duels, BG's, etc. When you mouse over them it will show your wins/losses against them, you can also search player names to bring up those stats. Can also auto-report kills and deaths to guild and world chat)

SCT (scrolling combat text - adds buffs, debuffs, heals, damage vs. and damage against as scrolling text that can be completely customized)

[eastadam55]

find any quest helpers?

[Bardalicious]

find any quest helpers?

Unfortunately no. The one Freaky posted has been working fine for me though, it just isn't as nice as QuestHelper or Carbonite was.

It adds helpful quest notes to the quest page from wowhead or something and if you click the button on the quest page to add to map it will plot important points to hit for drops and turn ins.

[eastadam55]

kk all we need now is a working forum and shit load of more players

[Moonzi]

spreading the word to a few sites myself

[Ennoia]

Supplies for the Crossroads quest is broken. Supply box in the Quillboar camp doesn't let you interact with it.

Aquatic Form Half Pendant of Aquatic Agility in Silverpine Forest isn't reachable. Place it's supposed to be kills you with fatigue before you can get there.

[Darksinga]

how do you play this? halp

[TR Spokesman]

i'll find my WoW cd later this week and be ready to try this out by the weekend.

I'd do it now, but WoW has a habit of killing my drive to get my ass to class.

[Spacebar]

Could somebody post a link to a talent build calculator from this patch?

I always played a feral druid as my main since the first day of WoW. However, I remember it was quite a painful experience up until almost one of the final patches leading to BC.

Either way, I think the concept of the server is cool and I'm installing it right now. Need to get some levels before those AF douchers start pking me.

[Bardalicious]

Some1 already posted a link to the calculator in this thread...


http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_5

[Spacebar]

Some1 already posted a link to the calculator in this thread...


http://www.wowprovider.com/Old.aspx?talent=11215875_5

thanks, guy. I should have taken another skim-though on this thread, but was a bit lazy.

[TR Spokesman]

thanks, guy. I should have taken another skim-though on this thread, but was a bit lazy.

maybe could get the OP to edit his original to include some of the good links. If he didn't mind ;)

[georgie]

how do you play this? halp

download wow client 1.12 and then just add the patches given in thread.

[freakyuno]

maybe could get the OP to edit his original to include some of the good links. If he didn't mind ;)

Not a bad idea. :)

[Ripcord]

Sounds fun gonna roll alliance tonight

[Jaleean]

Can I just ask why is the forums down at the same time as the server is, that isnt very helpful at all :(

[freakyuno]

Can I just ask why is the forums down at the same time as the server is, that isnt very helpful at all :(

Nope, you cant ask. ;)


The SQL server had an issue, and the database server needed rebooted. The database server hosts the db for the world, and the forums.

[Bardalicious]

where da server at? :confused:

[Ripcord]

is this a scam

[eastadam55]

yes

[freakyuno]

is this a scam

No scam, server is up and playable. Sometime today I'll be migrating the server over to the dedicated host it's going to run on.

It's a custom core self compiled, we have an active website and forums located currently @

http://wowvanilla.dyndns.org

That address will change when it's moved to the dedicated host.

[Moonzi]

I really hope this takes off, have a shaman on the server and forgot how much I liked the original setting in WoW..I've hated every expansion after BC.

[Bardalicious]

I really hope this takes off, have a shaman on the server and forgot how much I liked the original setting in WoW..I've hated every expansion after BC.

Yes, I also forgot how much fun vanilla WoW was. It didn't get enough credit from the EQ crowd imo before it went downhill and turned into a mickey mouse ez mode game.

With a decent population this game can be a LOT of fun for PVP. The dungeons on the server are not instance based, so there should always be chances to have a lot of fun in PVP fights for items and xp.

I've been leveling an undead shadow priest casually atm til the server kicks off so I can group with people. Level 12 at the moment. Mostly working out every early game quest for rep and money + gear and grinding my herbalism and alchemy too. If anyone wants to give the game a shot and needs help setting it up or anything, give me a PM here, post here or at the wow forums or hit me in game - my priest name is Azareal.

Even if you guys just need something to kill time with til Red 99 is opened, it's worth checking this out :cool:

[eastadam55]

im going to have ahard time balancing this and red99

[Aerist]

Need more of a population, the server has great potential. Tell your friends, potential REAL PVP with a game that is fun

[Aerist]

Need Salty to Fish Bait recruit people to the server

[Ripcord]

checked it out, great so far, with a healthy population this could be epic. best parts of wow pvp and the non instanced feel of eq. gank squads assemble!

[Loretta]

Going to make a char today -

[freakyuno]

We've just move the server to a dedicated host, have about 100 accounts / chars, with the population starting to increase rapidly.

You can find the server by visiting:

http://www.therebirth.net

[eastadam55]

woot grats freaky on this amazing feat, gj bringing the server up

[Bardalicious]

bumpity bump. sure wish ppl in this guild i joined were still playing *cough cough* georgie / eastadam


population is still slowly climbing which is good. still need more pals to get on board though. very impressive job done on pushing out patches and moving the server to a dedicated host so far. this one looks like it's here to stay frands.

[eastadam55]

bumpity bump. sure wish ppl in this guild i joined were still playing *cough cough* georgie / eastadam


population is still slowly climbing which is good. still need more pals to get on board though. very impressive job done on pushing out patches and moving the server to a dedicated host so far. this one looks like it's here to stay frands.

i haven't had time to play, been studying/working. i intend to start playing again though, has anyone reached 60 yet?

[eastadam55]

damn just checked the site, theres a lvl 55 dwarf warrior >:0

[georgie]

bumpity bump. sure wish ppl in this guild i joined were still playing *cough cough* georgie / eastadam


population is still slowly climbing which is good. still need more pals to get on board though. very impressive job done on pushing out patches and moving the server to a dedicated host so far. this one looks like it's here to stay frands.

hey i actually just reinstalled it cuz i guess the one i had can't get patches so i'm downloading a new one lol

also need you to heal me while i attempt to tame an elite named lioness.

[Aerist]

Server is doing really great considering its not even a few weeks old, currently it looks to be about 20 to 25 active horde and about 20 to 25 active alliance. Come join in on what is bound to be some great pvp and such. I predict in a few weeks the population will be at least 100 or more. (VZTZ pop in 3 weeks)

[freakyuno]

damn just checked the site, theres a lvl 55 dwarf warrior >:0

He's a GM. :)

[Gimlish]

looks like there's double exp this weekend, gonna check it out.

[Ennoia]

Of course I'm incredibly busy on double xp weekend...

[Bardalicious]

For those wondering, yes - double XP is active until sunday night / monday morning sometime. We had a huge influx of new players come for this weekend. The server probably peaked somewhere around 85-90 on at one time, with around 400+ active accounts made (boxing is possible but hardly anyone I've seen does it).

Hop on and check it out, /join Global when you do - that's the cross faction chat while the population grows.

They have GM's on most of the time to help with issues. Guilds have formed, instances are getting rocked and people are leveling. Only a matter of time before PVP starts occuring in BG's on a regular basis with early raiding shortly after imo.

[jballe3]

i'm comin in amigo's, horde of course

[Lelroni]

We use to have epic battles back before Burning Crusade, this being on a PVE server. It was usually Tarren Mill vs South Shore. Went something like this: Horde lures a couple of lowbie alliances to flag for PVP, kill them, battle horn goes out across azeroth, 600 alliance heroes come to the rescure versus 100 horde scum! (j/k!). Anyways, horde and alliance battle it out, whenever one side begins to lose they run back to there guards at tarren mill (horde) and south shore (alliance), and back then guards could smear your ass all over the floor. Fun times!

[Bardalicious]

Also to be noted, if you are planning on checking the server out - I'd roll Alliance. Horde side blew up this weekend it seems with the wave of new players. It's pretty heavily weighed on horde side now for population.

Though if you are set on Horde, I believe Freaky said there would be free faction changes to balance things when the server called for it anyways.

[Envious]

Classic Windfury??

[Troy]

I plan to try this soon as I don't think I'll have the time needed to ever get anywhere on red99.

[Envious]

I thought there was pvp inside instances??

And classic windfury or no?

[Anger]

Are Paladins massively OP like they were in Vanilla?

Might try this if so.

[Diggles]

paladins massively op?

keep the trolling to rnf pls

[Diggles]

the only time paladins were OP in WoW was 3.0

[Anger]

paladins massively op?

keep the trolling to rnf pls

Go look up Reck-bombing and come back when you have your foot in your mouth :p

[Diggles]

I was around for reck bombing, still not as bad as 3.0 paladins.

[Anger]

I was around for reck bombing, still not as bad as 3.0 paladins.

Assuming it stacks over 5 on this server, my lil pally will be smoking people in no time :D

[Diggles]

Rogues will be gods, praise be to the stun gods.

The 5 cap on reck was in bc AFAIK

[Anger]

Rogues will be gods, praise be to the stun gods.

The 5 cap on reck was in bc AFAIK

They put it in the patch after that pally solo'd Lord Kazzak. Whenever that was.

[Massive Marc]

wut up gents,

Gonna install tonight. I got to field marshal on vanilla, then quit. I'd love to come try this. Which faction needs players ? Also do you have PVP titles working ?

[Envious]

Just got a response on Rebirth forums...

No PvP in instances... which is one of the things I was really looking forward to. So thats kinda gay.

Apparently WF works, but to what degree I dunno.

Wish this was more Day 1 WoW than "Vanilla" WoW. On day 1 everything was OP.

[Diggles]

Unless you're referring to BGs there was never PvP in instances. What the Hell are you talking about?
And obv~ windfury works or it wouldn't be vanilla

[Massive Marc]

Unless you're referring to BGs there was never PvP in instances. What the Hell are you talking about?
And obv~ windfury works or it wouldn't be vanilla

I think he is referring to a comment made by the creator, suggesting that you could PVP into a instance. I guess he wasn't able to implement it.

[Envious]

Diggles, stay informed or dont respond to my fucking posts.

And yes, the server having a single instance for each dungeon, and being able to contest those dungeons or raids is what I was talking about.

WF works, derp. Thx you fucking idiot. It was nerfed in 1.12.1? Or 1.12? To only work with normal attack swings, and not proc off itself (I think) which would prolly be the reason they picked that patch for their server. The only 2 references I could find for the 1.12.1 patch notes are conflicting, with FoH saying it got nerfed, and WoWwiki having it omitted. Inclined to believe the 5 year old FoH post.

Again, fucking be informed when you respond to me.

[Diggles]

Calm down sugartits

[Envious]

I have no patience for stupid.

[Diggles]

must be hard to wake up in the morning

[Prom Night Dumpster Baby]

It's fun. Can't wait to hunt Alliance.

[Ennoia]

I think he is referring to a comment made by the creator, suggesting that you could PVP into a instance. I guess he wasn't able to implement it.

I've got faith in Freaky that he'll figure it out. He's done a really great job with everything so far, just wish I had more time to play as of late.

[Mcbard]

This looks awesome. Isn't Blizzard going to sue the shit out of you for using their art?

Edit: Also linking to torrent sites?

[Mcbard]

Any idea where I can find the client version for Mac? My discs are from Feb '05 and are version 1.2

[Juugox2]

i almost forgot how much funnier pre bc was lol since WoW now is set for a 5 year old imo easy mode

[Ames]

Just got a response on Rebirth forums...

No PvP in instances... which is one of the things I was really looking forward to. So thats kinda gay.

Apparently WF works, but to what degree I dunno.

Wish this was more Day 1 WoW than "Vanilla" WoW. On day 1 everything was OP.

There was never PvP in instances.

[Ennoia]

Any idea where I can find the client version for Mac? My discs are from Feb '05 and are version 1.2

If your disks are 1.2 then I don't think you can get an earlier version for the Mac, as all disks were originally just 1.0 (no patches),with all patch content downloaded, and the Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, and Cataclysm being the only other CDs aside from the original World of Warcraft CDs.

[Anger]

Fun server bros. Some minor bugs, but server is still young.

Got a decent following already and its not EZ moad like Cata is now. Join up!

[Envious]

There was never PvP in instances.

There was also never crossteam chat you fucking idiot. Keep up with thread. Your as bad as diggles.

Checked it out, no PvP in instances, no xteam chat, no real WF. All in all, massive disappointment.

[baub]

almost fed the troll ~

[Bardalicious]

There was also never crossteam chat you fucking idiot. Keep up with thread. Your as bad as diggles.

Checked it out, no PvP in instances, no xteam chat, no real WF. All in all, massive disappointment.

QQ i gonna rage cuz the OP bullshit I wanted to use to ez mode isn't in


And on a serious note - server hit about 130-140ish? peoples on at one time over the double xp weekend. Shit ton of new accounts made and such. Still a good time to hop in and level with the majority of the population before raids and shit happens.

[Envious]

Nah, I wanted to contest raid mobs. Would have played solely for that.

If your wanting just vanilla WoW, it seems like a good server. Were 100+ online at like 2am, and a healthy amount at 5:30 am.

Just not what I was looking for based on what it was supposed to be.

[Bardalicious]

Nah, I wanted to contest raid mobs. Would have played solely for that.

If your wanting just vanilla WoW, it seems like a good server. Were 100+ online at like 2am, and a healthy amount at 5:30 am.

Just not what I was looking for based on what it was supposed to be.

Well, to be fair, you aren't looking for a vanilla WoW server. You are looking for a day 1 WoW server. (in regards to WF)

And yeah, instances not being PVPable like he said sucks (I didn't even know that - I was still under the impression they were), but if that was his intention I have every bit of faith he'll make it work. Server has only been up for 3 weeks after all and they have already made an enormous amount of progress.

[Troy]

I made a human warrior as that's what I played on live, I feel like an idiot though because I can't remember at all what talents or gear I should use to level. Strangely though I remembered all of the quests in the first couple of zones so far. Too bad I missed the double xp weekend.

[Envious]

Yeah, realized what I really wanted was basically a Day 1 server.

When ppl say Vanilla, I think back to MC and Pre-MC... not the last patch before BC.

I dunno, might mess around on it at some point. But I dont see instances going contested due to coding and PnP issues. Bnet kiddies couldnt handle contested zones.

[Bardalicious]

I've got a guild rolling on Horde. Any red pals are welcome - all past forum trolling and such put aside. It's not too late to hop in and start catching up. I'll be glad to help any fellow PVPers get on their feet however I can - I'm a level 42 priest atm.

Also, if you decide to join the server, use me as a reference. I get 5 gold from it and will gladly pass it all on to you to help level and such.

[Ames]

There was also never crossteam chat you fucking idiot. Keep up with thread. Your as bad as diggles.

Checked it out, no PvP in instances, no xteam chat, no real WF. All in all, massive disappointment.

Envious of me pal?

[Ames]

"Duffy suffers from Asbergers, is unemployed, and drinks alone at home in a "miserable existence," the court was told."


There you go again Envious, Stirring up the pot !

[Anger]

Bump! Get over here!

[Anger]

Bump.

Because you know Red99 is gonna fizzle out anyway ;)

[Massive Marc]

I'll get behind this bump.
I made a character.
Server stable.
Enjoying it when I get a chance to play.
Props to the OP for a good server.

[Bardalicious]

Server still going strong pals. Peaked at about 250ish+ users at one time so far and the numbers still seem to be going up every week. Honestly I have not seen a dev in the emu community as competent and professional as Freaky, next to Rogean and Nilbog.

The guild I'm running is up to about 45-50ish active members now. Looking forward to starting key runs and Strat farming while everyone catches up to 60.

Hit up Azareal in guild <Hate> if you're looking to get into vanilla raiding on Horde side.

[Sslaesha]

I would LOVE to play this but I don't have my original CD's. I threw them out when I quit live. Is there any way around this other than having to go buy a new set of cds?

[Bardalicious]

I would LOVE to play this but I don't have my original CD's. I threw them out when I quit live. Is there any way around this other than having to go buy a new set of cds?

Yes, I'll send you a PM.

[kumaladin]

bard, i am disappointed... you kicked me from the guild :(

[Masq]

why would anyone play on a pvp vanilla server?
vanilla PvP was more imbalanced than cata / late wotlk pvp

[georgie]

Yes, I'll send you a PM.

no r99?

[Anger]

Bump.

Over 300 people on at the moment.

[Grahm]

Downloading now. Excited to do a 40man raid.

[FatMagic]

Downloaded this last night... seeding the DL as well.
Going to check it out. Psyched about Vanilla WoW. Not much into raiding, but enjoyed the game itself during that time. Would be awesome to see it get up to P99 pop levels!

[Grahm]

23 rogue brews in 1.3 days played. Hit me up on grahm if you are an Alliance.
Bringing p99 to the global chat is huge lulz.

NO TRUCE WITH THE SHADOW

[Knuckle]

Just stabbed a small knife under each eyelid and clamped some 9volts to my ballsack, sounds like a good time to play a shit game.

[Anger]

Bump! Who wants to pissfest over VP anyway? :P

[Truth]

no quiero jugar