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Scribin
08-07-2011, 07:16 AM
I'm new to p99 i've been here since May. I have one character a dwarf warrior, I'm level 52.

I get 4 choices for weapons to use, every warrior 50+ has the same weapons.

They either have a ringed mace of ykesha and blade of black dragon eye

or they have sarnak warhammer and silken whip of ensaring.

Can't we change this? When I started ykesha mace was 60k now it's 160k No one has ever listed a BoBde in EC according to goon quest.

I'd do any quest put into the game to earn a weapon like those. I saved 100k but it's still not enough, it's messed up. I own the second set of weapons listed, put in a quest or run an event for us warriors who stand at the front lines. SoE wouldn't stand for this monopoly. It's actually pretty boring looking around and everyone is holding the same brown whip.. Every warrior in norrath wielding whips is equally lame as cat people living on the moon.

If warriors are so dependent on proc's then give us the opportunity to earn these proccing weapons. And prevent them from being farmable otherwise they'll end up in EC hoarded by profiteers. This is p99 it's not "classic" add a quest run an event give us some sort of chance, how many fantasy stories have you enjoyed where the hero forked over a king's ransom to a level 1 gnome for his weapon??

SupaflyIRL
08-07-2011, 07:23 AM
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deneauth
08-07-2011, 07:23 AM
Don't feel bad, I am still sporting 2 SSoY's. If i am feeling dangerous I equip a wurmslayer in the offhand but that won't last much longer. It's sad but unfortunately that's the way it is.

Edit - I am still a badass though :)

Ektar
08-07-2011, 07:26 AM
should give me more flaming swords too. I only have my choice of 1 flaming sword that's of considerable use and that's messed up. Even though I'm a special snowflake all other paladins with a flaming sword have my same weapon. And if they don't have FA, then it's SF. Should put in a quest for us paladins who stand at the front lines. It's pretty boring looking around and seeing people with the same sword. If paladins are so dependent on flaming swords then give us the opportunity to earn these flaming swords. how many fantasy stories have you enjoyed where the hero forked over two swords and the clothes of a dead man to some black dude for his weapon??

SoE wouldn't stand for this and is why they catered to everyone's want and need and ruined the game.

this is p99 not "classic."






Use the second tier of weapons. You're fine.

Troy
08-07-2011, 07:48 AM
They are putting in a quest to earn weapons like those... it's called the warrior epic.

acid_reflux
08-07-2011, 08:35 AM
They are putting in a quest to earn weapons like those... it's called the warrior epic.

Velious=blade of carnage. That will give you a hateproc. Just kill avatar of war. No sweat. Ill wager not everyone will have one.

SupaflyIRL
08-07-2011, 09:13 AM
Velious=blade of carnage. That will give you a hateproc. Just kill avatar of war. No sweat. Ill wager not everyone will have one.

Could always just scrounge up a pair of SoDs if your guild isn't AoW capable!

pasi
08-07-2011, 03:11 PM
VP brings 5-6 warrior aggro weapons that are an upgrade to BotBDE and the Blue Sword so BotBDE and RMoY prices will plummet.

Frostbringers will flood the market come velious so even the poorest of warriors will be fine.

Short lived problem imo.

SupaflyIRL
08-07-2011, 03:12 PM
VP brings 5-6 warrior aggro weapons that are an upgrade to BotBDE and the Blue Sword so BotBDE and RMoY prices will plummet.

Frostbringers will flood the market come velious so even the poorest of warriors will be fine.

Short lived problem imo.

Oh hey you're alive.

Webwolf
08-07-2011, 05:05 PM
should give me more flaming swords too. I only have my choice of 1 flaming sword that's of considerable use and that's messed up. Even though I'm a special snowflake all other paladins with a flaming sword have my same weapon. And if they don't have FA, then it's SF. Should put in a quest for us paladins who stand at the front lines. It's pretty boring looking around and seeing people with the same sword. If paladins are so dependent on flaming swords then give us the opportunity to earn these flaming swords. how many fantasy stories have you enjoyed where the hero forked over two swords and the clothes of a dead man to some black dude for his weapon??

SoE wouldn't stand for this and is why they catered to everyone's want and need and ruined the game.

this is p99 not "classic."






Use the second tier of weapons. You're fine.

Bardalicious
08-07-2011, 05:22 PM
I totally play a caster class and I'm so sick of running around all of Norrath and seeing every other caster and their mom casting the spells that I'M using. This is an absolute outrage. Sony wouldn't stand for this injustice of all other casters of my type using the spells that I do.

I know this is a recreation of a classic everquest server, and I knew before I created my character what spells I would get, but come on. How many fantasy stories have you read where every magic user only shot magic missiles out their ass?

Please introduce a custom event or quest to give me a personalized spell arsenal that does better damage than the spells I and every other caster currently use. Also, make them have fun, shiny new wow-like spell graphics to set me apart from every other caster in Norrath, because they are just a bunch of boring meanie-heads and my mommy told me that I'm special.

The end.

Hagglebaron
08-07-2011, 05:49 PM
How did a warrior save up 100k within a few months

Lazortag
08-07-2011, 06:01 PM
I'm new to p99 i've been here since May. I have one character a dwarf warrior, I'm level 52.

I get 4 choices for weapons to use, every warrior 50+ has the same weapons.

They either have a ringed mace of ykesha and blade of black dragon eye

or they have sarnak warhammer and silken whip of ensaring.

Can't we change this? When I started ykesha mace was 60k now it's 160k No one has ever listed a BoBde in EC according to goon quest.

I'd do any quest put into the game to earn a weapon like those. I saved 100k but it's still not enough, it's messed up. I own the second set of weapons listed, put in a quest or run an event for us warriors who stand at the front lines. SoE wouldn't stand for this monopoly. It's actually pretty boring looking around and everyone is holding the same brown whip.. Every warrior in norrath wielding whips is equally lame as cat people living on the moon.

If warriors are so dependent on proc's then give us the opportunity to earn these proccing weapons. And prevent them from being farmable otherwise they'll end up in EC hoarded by profiteers. This is p99 it's not "classic" add a quest run an event give us some sort of chance, how many fantasy stories have you enjoyed where the hero forked over a king's ransom to a level 1 gnome for his weapon??

..Why does everyone love this server for the fact that it's classic, yet they keep suggesting we add things that would ruin the class feel?

Motec
08-07-2011, 06:50 PM
2 yaks

If you cant be good, at least look good.

Envious
08-07-2011, 07:23 PM
Best combo if you dont have access to RMotY and BotBDE is Sarnak Warhammer + Yak Club. Imo anyway.

I have zero problems holding aggro at 54, and I regularly am tanking in raid situations and with multiple lvl 60 rogues and monks.

Dunno why you have such problems.

Suggestion: Reroll your warrior, and put all starting points into dex.

Bardalicious
08-07-2011, 07:57 PM
How did a warrior save up 100k within a few months

I want to know this secret as well. If I had 100kpp within a few months of starting as a WARRIOR no less, I wouldn't be bitching on the forums.


Interesting indeed.

SupaflyIRL
08-07-2011, 07:59 PM
I want to know this secret as well. If I had 100kpp within a few months of starting as a WARRIOR no less, I wouldn't be bitching on the forums.


Interesting indeed.

I've been playing since the end of May, am around this guy's level, and I'm a necro and I don't have anywhere near 100k.

Bardalicious
08-07-2011, 08:11 PM
I've been playing since the end of May, am around this guy's level, and I'm a necro and I don't have anywhere near 100k.

Yeah exactly. It's a pretty incredible feat for solo classes much less a warrior that can't kill most greens efficiently.

I sense some RMT going down on this guys account. Or he's just troll posting.

Alex
08-07-2011, 08:36 PM
I've heard there is a market for p99 currency, I figured it was just a rumour. I've seen numerous people come up with extremely suspicious amounts of plat for their class/level though...

Bardalicious
08-07-2011, 08:38 PM
I've heard there is a market for p99 currency, I figured it was just a rumour. I've seen numerous people come up extremely suspicious amounts of plat for their class/level though...

I wouldn't doubt that Uthgaard checks out this guys account now, but truthfully I'd say 95% of people that enact a RMT for plat or items will get caught. There is always a trail to follow in the logs no matter how convoluted they try to make the trade.

Motec
08-07-2011, 09:11 PM
I had 200k at level 48 or 50.

Who gives a f*ck where he got the money or how? Some of you clowns pay such obscene amounts of plat for certain items.

He could of won a RoM, emmissary, topor, a heiro cloak, rbg or two...Who knows, millions of plat worth of items drops every single day.

Alex
08-07-2011, 09:22 PM
I had 200k at level 48 or 50.

Who gives a f*ck where he got the money or how? Some of you clowns pay such obscene amounts of plat for certain items.

He could of won a RoM, emmissary, topor, a heiro cloak, rbg or two...Who knows, millions of plat worth of items drops every single day.

Fat

Motec
08-07-2011, 10:05 PM
^ Doing it right. You win the internetz

Dantes
08-07-2011, 10:18 PM
Woot. Never really looked at the Velious weapons much since I quit soon after it was released. Cool stuff!

Anger
08-08-2011, 04:22 AM
I'm new to p99 i've been here since May. I have one character a dwarf warrior, I'm level 52.

I get 4 choices for weapons to use, every warrior 50+ has the same weapons.

They either have a ringed mace of ykesha and blade of black dragon eye

or they have sarnak warhammer and silken whip of ensaring.

Can't we change this? When I started ykesha mace was 60k now it's 160k No one has ever listed a BoBde in EC according to goon quest.

I'd do any quest put into the game to earn a weapon like those. I saved 100k but it's still not enough, it's messed up. I own the second set of weapons listed, put in a quest or run an event for us warriors who stand at the front lines. SoE wouldn't stand for this monopoly. It's actually pretty boring looking around and everyone is holding the same brown whip.. Every warrior in norrath wielding whips is equally lame as cat people living on the moon.

If warriors are so dependent on proc's then give us the opportunity to earn these proccing weapons. And prevent them from being farmable otherwise they'll end up in EC hoarded by profiteers. This is p99 it's not "classic" add a quest run an event give us some sort of chance, how many fantasy stories have you enjoyed where the hero forked over a king's ransom to a level 1 gnome for his weapon??

Not sure if trolling.

Snaggles
08-08-2011, 09:45 AM
If I remember right prior to Kunark about 90% of end-game warriors had Yak's. That or planar. Talk about feeling trendy :p.

With Kunark out and Velious in the works if every warrior is using the same weapons they are only limited by their imagination. Think outside the box and don't be afraid if the cool kids laugh...

deneauth
08-08-2011, 10:13 AM
Kunzar Ku'juch - Main Hand
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=303

Wurmslayer - Off Hand
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=355
Although on Alla it says primary only, it has not been implemented on the server yet.

These are not expensive and hold aggro just fine.

Fourthmeal
08-08-2011, 05:11 PM
I'll throw warriors a grilled stufft burrito if interested

Marglar
08-08-2011, 05:19 PM
maybe I didn't play in a classic enough era but back in my kunark days, taunt was actually sufficient in most cases to hold aggro. you didn't *need* procs, but they helped a lot.

being forced to user certain weapons is annoying. it's not that big of deal, though, just thinking out loud since the topics up.

SupaflyIRL
08-08-2011, 06:52 PM
maybe I didn't play in a classic enough era but back in my kunark days, taunt was actually sufficient in most cases to hold aggro. you didn't *need* procs, but they helped a lot.

being forced to user certain weapons is annoying. it's not that big of deal, though, just thinking out loud since the topics up.

Something tells me you don't have the faintest idea how taunt and aggro work.

Marglar
08-08-2011, 07:06 PM
I have a good general idea. spamming taunt is worthless. it puts you at the top of the hate list, more of a snap aggro, if it's successful. it should be reserved for when you lose aggro, not while you are actively holding aggro. aggro is generated by damage output and hate, and more importantly, by procs. procs that have certain things like stuns cause more hate then other procs.

I played a warrior on live, and that was my understanding. correct me if I'm wrong, please.

Slave
08-08-2011, 07:18 PM
I have a good general idea. spamming taunt is worthless. it puts you at the top of the hate list, more of a snap aggro, if it's successful. it should be reserved for when you lose aggro, not while you are actively holding aggro. aggro is generated by damage output and hate, and more importantly, by procs. procs that have certain things like stuns cause more hate then other procs.

I played a warrior on live, and that was my understanding. correct me if I'm wrong, please.

In all fairness, if you are playing a warrior on P99 and thus never have aggro, spamming taunt will give you the most amount of time at the top of the aggro list.

Snaggles
08-08-2011, 07:43 PM
People always blame the gear. Fact is a class like the Warrior, while simplistic at first glance, is extremely skill intensive. Proper pulling and strategy almost always rests on their shoulders.

Back in the day *coughs dust* I remember grouping with amazing warriors and crappy ones. What they were holding seldom made the difference.

Marglar
08-08-2011, 07:48 PM
well, this isn't back in the day 100%, this is p1999, and the OP has a valid concern that he really needs certain procs to maintain aggro. it's not 100% of what makes a warrior, I'll give you that much.

slave - being at the top of the hate list momentarily doesn't guarantee you maintain aggro. it puts you to the top of the list, it doesn't put you far ahead. you need to generate more hate then others to maintain it, otherwise it's just a momentary aggro grabber.

Snaggles
08-08-2011, 08:12 PM
Actually the OP didn't want procs. He wanted a price fixed market system. Let's throw fixed income too because I'm broke.

Maybe communism would be better than the old days.

Marglar
08-08-2011, 08:19 PM
his complaint about weapon choice limitation stems from *needing* procs for aggro, though.

I don't agree that he should be able to go turn in some bat wings for a weapon of his choice, though. it's unfortunate the market is jacked up and there is far too much plat available on the market, but it is what it is. make due, work towards your epic for later.

Snaggles
08-08-2011, 08:46 PM
Agreed procs are needed on a level but "warrior" and "weapon limitation" aren't in the same galaxy.

I don't know how rare the BotBDE is as a nerfed item but on live they were like tap-dancing unicorns. Rare enough people disregarded them as options and just used other taunt-proc weapons. If every warrior needed one it would be in your starting gear with water and muffins.

I understand the min/maxing but this is a game with disadvantages, broken classes, and sometimes dumb luck. There are options out there...ask the other warriors instead of calling for economic reform.

Note: as people say epics will solve this. You can use a guild and time/luck or pay for MQ items and paid thugs. No drop items also sweeten the pot in Velious.

nymphloa
08-08-2011, 09:01 PM
I played a warrior on Live from Kunark until last year when I found this server, I started end game raiding in Velious until that time. I have never spammed taunt on my warrior, and only used it when I lose agro. Of course with the addition of AA's over the many years I really did forget just how hard a warrior has it until I came back to this server.

I re made my warrior a Wood elf, then deleted him and went Gnome. Spamming taunt will never ensure you have agro, in my experience it will only reset any decent amount of agro you have just built up. Mind you this one has always been debated over the many years.

http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1377
http://www.thesteelwarrior.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-5101.html

There are many many more I have no doubt...

Peace.

Bardalicious
08-09-2011, 12:05 AM
I played a warrior on Live from Kunark until last year when I found this server, I started end game raiding in Velious until that time. I have never spammed taunt on my warrior, and only used it when I lose agro. Of course with the addition of AA's over the many years I really did forget just how hard a warrior has it until I came back to this server.

I re made my warrior a Wood elf, then deleted him and went Gnome. Spamming taunt will never ensure you have agro, in my experience it will only reset any decent amount of agro you have just built up. Mind you this one has always been debated over the many years.

http://www.thesteelwarrior.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1377
http://www.thesteelwarrior.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-5101.html

There are many many more I have no doubt...

Peace.



Successful taunt when you are not on top of the NPC hate list = moves you one point higher in hate above whoever was at the top of the list.

Successful taunt when you are already at the top of the hate list = only give you +1 point of hate.

That's my recollection anyways.

Instead of the OP complaining that warriors work here the same way they did on EQLive 12 years ago, perhaps he should play a different game or try a different tank class in exchange for the outrageous xp penalty those tank classes incur.

Felwithemagi
08-09-2011, 12:19 AM
Prior to AA's and disciplines, it was tricky to hold aggro against monks, rogues and yes, rangers, to say nothing of errant casters. Aggro control is the responsibility of everyone in the warrior's group/raid. If the warrior is playing correctly then others need to do the same.

Bardalicious
08-09-2011, 12:48 AM
I'll throw warriors a grilled stufft burrito if interested

Creating a warrior to get in on that hand out!

Knuckle
08-09-2011, 10:41 AM
People always blame the gear. Fact is a class like the Warrior, while simplistic at first glance, is extremely skill intensive. Proper pulling and strategy almost always rests on their shoulders.

Back in the day *coughs dust* I remember grouping with amazing warriors and crappy ones. What they were holding seldom made the difference.

lol

neverquest
08-09-2011, 11:33 AM
What is the best race, for a warrior?

Norez Orwilli
03-03-2012, 10:31 PM
Best weps you can get on a warrior low 50s without having to buy them, rog epic fights in steamfont and kithicor drop 2 nice weps for threat, and they dont cost a penny. So find a rog doing his epic and join him for steamfont renux fight and general in kithicore, skean and the yak scimitar holdup well on threat.

username1337
03-03-2012, 10:50 PM
What is the best race, for a warrior?

Uncontested, ogre.

webrunner5
03-04-2012, 07:57 AM
Uncontested, ogre.

What he said.