Help us build a Monk and Shaman Please

[Hannibal]

Good Morning Friends,

My wife has a 60 chanter; I have a 60 druid and 60 cleric. We do not Raid.

We are looking to gear up a MONK and a SHAMAN as a duo.

1. What should we be aiming to FARM?
____*We can duo Kael Arena to farm gear drops, both babies are coldain factioned
2. What should we be aiming to BUY?
____*We are currently saving up for a TStaff
3. What should we be aiming to QUEST?
____*Shaman Epic seems like a very easy faction quest

What are some easy picks in your mind for those classes? Like I know we eventually want JBB and the mortificators staff for Shaman.

Monk has Velks Haste Gloves & Thurg wrist for infinite throwing stars and a Peacemaker.

Shaman is wearing a mix of Thurg Armor and Netted Kelp. He has a Poison Wind Censer as his weapon.


THANK YOU FRIENDS!

[sammoHung]

Netted kelp serves no purpose for a shaman. It has terrible AC, and doesn't provide any +Mana for the shaman.

Farm some Nathsar in chardok, or Seb scale in Sebilis for upgrades. Give the netted kelp to the monk

[Hannibal]

Thanks Sammo! We have the netted kelp from farming the Neriad Shawl for the wife's chanter. It's just kind of filler for "empty" slots lol.

We'll look into Chardok, it's a crawl we know and love since we never faction our toons for the rings lol.

[kjs86z2]

Do you have a budget or are you trying to duo farm every single item for these two alts?

Fungi and seahorse belt instead of SCHW.

Skip T staff til these are on the monk. PB is fine. Hell, I would rather both chars have fungis on them before going for T staff.

Otherwise just any light weight HP/AC/STR for the monk, basic wis shit on shaman. Save the rest for shaman spells.

[loramin]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Equipping_a_Shaman

[cd288]

Farm plat for fungi for Monk (and Shaman if but not necessarily critical if duoing) or get one to trio King in seb with you guys and hope you win the roll over the third person in the group.

With duoing, you won't really need the T Staff necessarily. It's certainly a nice upgrade, but much more important in those last several levels to 60 if the Monk is soloing as it allows the Monk to tackle some more difficult melee encounters where the higher DPS is needed without buffs. If the Shaman is there then you don't really need the T Staff and the PB is probably fine all the way to 60.

[WarpathEQ]

Yeah really just a fungi for both of them and fungi staff is nice for shammy can use as a GCD as well as extra regen to canni into for mana. That's really all for the shaman though I would focus on putting all the gear on the monk. All shammy really gonna do is slow the mob, keep the monk healed/buffed, and send pet for extra DPS when they get one.

You didn't say how low the monk/shaman are but velium crystal staff is real fun monk twink weapon pre-30 when the damage cap lifts and things like T-staff take over. Something you can solo farm on the enchanter. Not sure if you can duo Ayllish with those classes but some 6 necks are always a nice solid neck slot when available. Can definitely solo farm Seahorse belt.

JBB and Shaman epic while nice and add DPS for free won't really have much impact compared to the monk+pet dps. I wouldn't be too concerned with those, they are more for solo shaman needs. The sow boots are a nice GCD though (although you prolly still end up with sow on your bar for the monk so less of a boost than solo). Monk epic would be massive, that alone is like double DPS with the haste and +atk and stats.

[sammoHung]

JBB and Shaman epic while nice and add DPS for free won't really have much impact compared to the monk+pet dps.

Mild disagree here - I have been duoing with a Monk on my shaman - and the JBB clicks are worth it. Each fight is Slow > JBB > Canni > JBB > Canni.

The JBB is 32.8 DPS (when spammed repeatedly), which is more than a max-level, hasted pet can do.

The epic, I do agree with. It's best used when there are multiple mobs, and the shaman can root one and epic click it while the monk works on downing the first mob.

[kjs86z2]

I'd get the shaman epic and forget about JBB with a perma monk duo.

[Hannibal]

Solid responses everyone. My thanks to all of you for your time and expertise here.

The toons are level 15-ish. We just got them factioned via giant helms for Thurg armor.

We have done the seahorse adventure, never got the belt but we can totally go back to the ledge of shame in SG and continue to farm :D

Interesting notes on the JBB. Looks like a "if you have the plat" item since we will 100% be in a duo all the time.

I didn't think Fungi would be such a huge deal. I have the Ceremonial Iksar Chestplate for regen on the SHM (cuz druid's love farming seb keys lol). I will look into something similar for the monk as I think that was probably the most "you need this" answer I saw.

Again, thank you all so much! This really gives me a few targets to try and line-up as we level etc.

Loramin, AWESOME LINK! The usual stuff on the class wiki pages is raid-y, so I tend to ignore those. So glad a page exists for random noise to farm/quest!

[Wakanda]

When I had to make the financial investment between a JBB or a Fungi Staff, people told me if you group and heal a lot that you would probably get more value out of the Fungi Staff. There was an actual thread on Reddit at the time (I may be able to find this) where people were comparing the two.

Anyways, I just want yall to know I've leveled two Shamans to 60 without a JBB and had no issues. In fact, I found myself waiting on spawns at most of the top camps at the time, meaning extra DPS prob would have been nice, but IDK how much of a difference it would have made when it comes to exp-per-hour.

I know you prob want to be an Iksar, but the Troll snare necklace is really nice (https://wiki.project1999.com/Regent_Symbol_of_Innoruuk), especially in dungeons. Keeps the mobs from fleeing / don't have to waste mana on root / if you root mobs they turn around and continue to beat on your pet / monk - with snare they just attempt to flee but can't move - saves mana on heals. Also got a lot of value out of the snare while solo'ing; snare is a huge blanket of security when you get a resist and are oom.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/project1999/comments/17mhcvd/jbb_vs_fungi_staff/

before haters say I made it up.

[shovelquest]

If you can get your epic at 50 i def would skip JBB, and only use it for situational fights when soloing.

[kjs86z2]

Solid responses everyone. My thanks to all of you for your time and expertise here.

The toons are level 15-ish. We just got them factioned via giant helms for Thurg armor.

We have done the seahorse adventure, never got the belt but we can totally go back to the ledge of shame in SG and continue to farm :D

Interesting notes on the JBB. Looks like a "if you have the plat" item since we will 100% be in a duo all the time.

I didn't think Fungi would be such a huge deal. I have the Ceremonial Iksar Chestplate for regen on the SHM (cuz druid's love farming seb keys lol). I will look into something similar for the monk as I think that was probably the most "you need this" answer I saw.

Again, thank you all so much! This really gives me a few targets to try and line-up as we level etc.

Loramin, AWESOME LINK! The usual stuff on the class wiki pages is raid-y, so I tend to ignore those. So glad a page exists for random noise to farm/quest!

Prio by tiers:

Fungi for monk
Seahorse belt for monk (maybe farm extra seahorse belts to fund fungi?)
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Fungi for shaman
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Shaman Epic
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Monk Epic
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(sell shaman fungi for)
Torpor + Rest of shaman spells
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T Staff (PB is fine, I'd use IFS instead to save some weight)

These are the big ticket items, I'd prob just take some gear off your other chars to kit out the basics rings / ears / etc. Depending on how adventurous you're going to be, resist gear on the monk could be mega...but loading HP gets big mend value and buffer for slow + regen + fungi. The goal is to hit a state of equilibrium where the shaman basically never casts a direct heal unless recovering from a caster / gnarly pull.

I put shaman epic above monk epic because you'll always be buffed w/ shaman haste, but its still good. Any time you have more than 1 mob engaged you're going to love that shaman epic. And since you have a druid to quickly do the faction cheese its literally a child's tear MQ + final fight and you're done. Last time I played that was 80k plat, no idea these days. Do not sleep on shaman epic, get it as early as possible.

[Hannibal]

We are now poor. We had 39k to our name, but I got a fungi for 35k, which is pretty fair deal! Thanks for the tips everyone :D

We are now grinding it out in Unrest for a bit on the babies. Then we will very likely return to grinding for the Spiked Seahorse Hide Belt in Siren's Grotto.

[Jimjam]

Sweet! Did the fungi up the game for yous?

[kjs86z2]

We are now poor. We had 39k to our name, but I got a fungi for 35k, which is pretty fair deal! Thanks for the tips everyone :D

We are now grinding it out in Unrest for a bit on the babies. Then we will very likely return to grinding for the Spiked Seahorse Hide Belt in Siren's Grotto.

I think thats a good strategy. You don't need giga twinks at those levels anyway.

As soon as you can gut it out, get that seahorse belt though. Big upgrade.

You could probably also strip off the druid and slap it on the shaman.

[Hannibal]

The fungi has been a massive upgrade.

I have my druid parked so I can keep Thorns/PotG/Regen (+15) on her monk and coupled with the fungi (+15) the regen is gross.

My shaman using iksar regen BP (+5) with no buffs (or just PotG) feels pitiful as spells don't land on the reds her monk is now ripping through. I swear I cast spells just for skill-ups... I do whack decently with the poison wind censer at least!

We're thinking of hitting the high 20's, low 30's before pushing for the haste belt grind on the druid/chanter in SG.

Luckily <Kittens Who Say Meow> has been pretty active for grouping, since the raiders all left for <Fuze> so we've been able to help some folks get exp who might otherwise be left to solo/struggle.

Again, you folks have been aces at helping us steer this duo, so thank you for your time and consideration everyone. :cool:

I also got someone to quote me 40k for the childs tear + fight assist on the shaman once I get him factioned! Super stoked for that, I just need to be careful with my expenses for a while.

[kjs86z2]

The fungi has been a massive upgrade.

I have my druid parked so I can keep Thorns/PotG/Regen (+15) on her monk and coupled with the fungi (+15) the regen is gross.

My shaman using iksar regen BP (+5) with no buffs (or just PotG) feels pitiful as spells don't land on the reds her monk is now ripping through. I swear I cast spells just for skill-ups... I do whack decently with the poison wind censer at least!

We're thinking of hitting the high 20's, low 30's before pushing for the haste belt grind on the druid/chanter in SG.

Luckily <Kittens Who Say Meow> has been pretty active for grouping, since the raiders all left for <Fuze> so we've been able to help some folks get exp who might otherwise be left to solo/struggle.

Again, you folks have been aces at helping us steer this duo, so thank you for your time and consideration everyone. :cool:

I also got someone to quote me 40k for the childs tear + fight assist on the shaman once I get him factioned! Super stoked for that, I just need to be careful with my expenses for a while.

Shaman epic at 46 would be incredible.

Crazy how much prices have come down since I played.

[WarpathEQ]

Yeah that's wildly cheap for epic (although I'm on green so maybe that's normal on blue) would definitely snatch that

[shovelquest]

Shaman epic at 46 would be incredible.

Crazy how much prices have come down since I played.

I did that, you cant click till 50, but at 50 doing the moat solo in com is so rad. You just cast roots and clicks so you can keep like 10 things rotting at once, indefinitely and be full mana the whole time.

[Crede]

The fungi has been a massive upgrade.

I have my druid parked so I can keep Thorns/PotG/Regen (+15) on her monk and coupled with the fungi (+15) the regen is gross.

My shaman using iksar regen BP (+5) with no buffs (or just PotG) feels pitiful as spells don't land on the reds her monk is now ripping through. I swear I cast spells just for skill-ups... I do whack decently with the poison wind censer at least!

We're thinking of hitting the high 20's, low 30's before pushing for the haste belt grind on the druid/chanter in SG.

Luckily <Kittens Who Say Meow> has been pretty active for grouping, since the raiders all left for <Fuze> so we've been able to help some folks get exp who might otherwise be left to solo/struggle.

Again, you folks have been aces at helping us steer this duo, so thank you for your time and consideration everyone. :cool:

I also got someone to quote me 40k for the childs tear + fight assist on the shaman once I get him factioned! Super stoked for that, I just need to be careful with my expenses for a while.

Just as I had thought, your shaman is now just sitting FM meleeing because you have fungi and a potg bot. Potg alone is good enough for the shaman mana savings, I would have prioritized haste over fungi in this duo. Skip the shaman epic for now, save for spells you will need, it’s really more of a solo tool and it’s not fun managing 4+ mobs which is what it takes to do decent dps with it. Just get a jbb to help burn one down at a time and focus on gearing the monk and getting shaman spells.

[Crede]

At this point I'd get the best haste you can for monk, then JBB for shaman, then go back to monk and get a tstaff. It is seriously one of the most broken weapons as that proc is super OP and it will help you interrupt casters more. And with shaman dex buffs that will equate to so much stun time.

[Snaggles]

Fungi tunics, fungi staff (nerfed). Get a Barb hammer if a Barb.
I wouldn’t get a Mort staff except as a toy.
Monk you could go from Wu’s 2h to IFS and be fine to 60.
Get a solid haste item.
Ring 8 would be ideal for the monk.
JBB is a must once you can click it.
Epic is nice but likely most fights won’t go full duration.

PS: I didn’t read much into context and responses. Apologies in advance.

[Crede]

Fungi tunics, fungi staff (nerfed). Get a Barb hammer if a Barb.
I wouldn’t get a Mort staff except as a toy.
Monk you could go from Wu’s 2h to IFS and be fine to 60.
Get a solid haste item.
Ring 8 would be ideal for the monk.
JBB is a must once you can click it.
Epic is nice but likely most fights won’t go full duration.

PS: I didn’t read much into context and responses. Apologies in advance.

Yea A lot of shaman epic advice which I think ppl are so used to soloing on Blue you will have adds but just get jbb and burn them down as you said most fights should not be taking full epic duration and if you miss that last 1 or 2 ticks shaman epic is pointless.

[WarpathEQ]

I would take epic over JBB, can do just as much DPS over full epic duration while freeing up cast/melee time in between.

You can substantially increase the usefulness of epic by pulling mobs in packs and root CC'ing them. Epic dot all of them while the monk goes around beating them down 1 by 1. You can get WAY more total damage out of epic that you can JBB at that point.

Also make sure you grab the shaman pets when available, nice free extra dps (haste the pet too) and when you get there a reclaim energy clicky is nice to grab max pets.

[Crede]

Root rotting adds off to the side to make shamans seem like a sustained dps class, lol where I have heard this before(Dsm)

These are solo tactics. What shaman wants to buff cc heal and slow and root rot 3-4 adds off to the side while the monk just sits there and turns on auto attack? And if epic isn’t ticking full duration(which it won’t unless your monk completely ignores them which is dumb) your dps only gets worse.

Just get jbb. Mobs will die fast. No need to introduce adds just so the shaman can do a little more group dps.

[kjs86z2]

I mean...if you wanted to skip JBB and get full value out of shaman epic it wouldn't be that hard. Monk can just go work on the next pull as the epic dot finishes off a mob.