Why is Locustlure so expensive?

[Wakanda]

I remember it as a cheap twink item in 2000. No where near being the best item or anything like that. I can easily afford an Exquisite Velium Spear and Scimitar of the Emerald Dawn, but I want the Locustlure purely for "meh nostalgia" (I also farmed ravenscale which took forever). Trying to re-create my childhood character basically.

But noticing that Locustlure is kind of expensive for what it is? I've literally never seen a high level Rogue using it for Walking Sleep, and Enchanters have easy access to slow, so my only assumption is that the high price is because Necros use it for slow or something? Or do yall know something I dont?

[Snaggles]

It’s a pain to get since it’s a rare of a random zone mob that paths. It’s also 35% at 60 and the only economically feasible rogue slow weapon (people usually don’t put Willsappers on them).

A lot of people have rogues. IMHO every class that can slow with a proc should have that weapon in the bag.

[Wakanda]

That's kind of what I figured, but as you said, everyone has a Rogue. I commonly have 3 rogues in my group on my Cleric and I never see any of them using this dagger for slows, so I'm a little confused. I think the ratio is so weak compared to what they are using that they don't think it's worth it? Maybe only used when people solo or something?

[Snaggles]

People are lazy and don’t think to carry a slow weapon even for situational use. Swarmcallers are like 500p and some rangers don’t even have one.

It’s not always the move, but slowing stuff can save a ton of mana or even make some things possible that might not be. The MH of a rogue is doing most the damage anyways. For low-man situations or even groups without a slower, keeping it in the offhand isn’t the worst choice. Especially if it negates a hasted mob.

[PatChapp]

Useful to keep in the bags if your in a group without a slower. Even the low slow % helps mitigation a lot.

[Jimjam]

People don't like to pull skeletal scryer while XPing in KC.

[Goregasmic]

That's kind of what I figured, but as you said, everyone has a Rogue. I commonly have 3 rogues in my group on my Cleric and I never see any of them using this dagger for slows, so I'm a little confused. I think the ratio is so weak compared to what they are using that they don't think it's worth it? Maybe only used when people solo or something?

On my ench in some groups I didn't even bother with slow because stuff dies too fast to be worth it even if I could land it right off the gates. Makes random procs even more useless, might as well go for better damage weap and do your DPS job and bust it out on tougher targets if you think you'll be tight on heals.

In small groups or solo kills an early proc can help a fair bit when you get to 50+ content.

[kjs86z2]

People are lazy and don’t think to carry a slow weapon even for situational use. Swarmcallers are like 500p and some rangers don’t even have one.

It’s not always the move, but slowing stuff can save a ton of mana or even make some things possible that might not be. The MH of a rogue is doing most the damage anyways. For low-man situations or even groups without a slower, keeping it in the offhand isn’t the worst choice. Especially if it negates a hasted mob.

huh? if a mob can be slowed it should be, always....Slow is the most efficient heal in the game by a country mile

[bcbrown]

huh? if a mob can be slowed it should be, always....Slow is the most efficient heal in the game by a country mile

Not when you're killing mobs in 10-15 seconds. And if you're killing mobs in like 30-40 seconds I don't think trying to proc a slow is going to be worth it.

Anything more than a trio and I usually keep the swarmcaller bagged.

[sammoHung]

Luckily locustlure doesn't have *too* terrible of a ratio. There are better weps, but its fast.

Even when soloing, I typically didn't use Locustlure - I used Spine Break poisons

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Not when you're killing mobs in 10-15 seconds. And if you're killing mobs in like 30-40 seconds I don't think trying to proc a slow is going to be worth it.

Anything more than a trio and I usually keep the swarmcaller bagged.

If your group is already killing a mob every 30 seconds while your rogue has a Locustlure equipped, then it doesn't really matter what weapon the Rogue is using. A lot of camps will exhaust all of their spawns at that speed as is.

[kjs86z2]

Not when you're killing mobs in 10-15 seconds. And if you're killing mobs in like 30-40 seconds I don't think trying to proc a slow is going to be worth it.

Anything more than a trio and I usually keep the swarmcaller bagged.

You still want to do it if its anything at all risky. Shit happens. If mobs in camp in are slowed, easier to handle when shit hits the fan.

[Crede]

You still want to do it if its anything at all risky. Shit happens. If mobs in camp in are slowed, easier to handle when shit hits the fan.

Kc is not risky and applies to 99% of grouping. Only low man stuff with subpar healing is where slow really pays off. Like gwurms with a shaman healer gl if slow is resisted. People don’t really push the limits anymore.

[Snaggles]

huh? if a mob can be slowed it should be, always....Slow is the most efficient heal in the game by a country mile

It depends on mana sustainability.

No cleric is going to struggle at geos. If the tank has a damage shield all slow will do is reduce your dps. Kind of common sense.

Not when you're killing mobs in 10-15 seconds. And if you're killing mobs in like 30-40 seconds I don't think trying to proc a slow is going to be worth it.

Anything more than a trio and I usually keep the swarmcaller bagged.


This too

[Crede]

It depends on mana sustainability.

No cleric is going to struggle at geos. If the tank has a damage shield all slow will do is reduce your dps. Kind of common sense.




This too

This.

Cleric + velious tank gear trivializes most group content.

[Snaggles]

This.

Cleric + velious tank gear trivializes most group content.

For what it’s worth, I don’t have monk, warrior, and knight data readily handy. I know my knights take a hit way better than my ranger who I did a lot of geo parsing with. In a non-slowed DW situation over 10 fights I took an average of 25dps. Just clicking Donal’s arms would have offset 16.66 dps. Really though, that’s not needed. Without any mana regen they can roughly cast one CH every 2 mins.

A couple melees with bandages and fungis can duo them without much drama. Even without the best gear. Same for KC like you pointed out.

[bcbrown]

If your group is already killing a mob every 30 seconds while your rogue has a Locustlure equipped, then it doesn't really matter what weapon the Rogue is using. A lot of camps will exhaust all of their spawns at that speed as is.

I didn't say that it was common, just that it was possible. If you've never had a group sustaining a 30 second kill rate continuously for an hour or two, you're missing out. It's a lot of fun but it gets exhausting. Constant chaos.

[Naethyn]

Early slow on zlandi is sweet.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I didn't say that it was common, just that it was possible. If you've never had a group sustaining a 30 second kill rate continuously for an hour or two, you're missing out. It's a lot of fun but it gets exhausting. Constant chaos.

Indeed! Those groups are quite fun.

[Snaggles]

I just think it’s always good to have that proverbial gear to shift to. Slow item in the bag is a serious advantage. It’s not always needed but why not carry it? That and a tash stick might save the day…

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I just think it’s always good to have that proverbial gear to shift to. Slow item in the bag is a serious advantage. It’s not always needed but why not carry it? That and a tash stick might save the day…

Agreed. Most people can spare two bag slots for those items, and they are both great proc weapons. They aren't very expensive too.

[Cecily]

It's a raid item. Very bad DPS. Very bad group utility. It will not land when you want it to. It will land on Zlandi precisely once, and you'll justify carrying it with you forever because of that. It will fuck with GINA timers and piss off shamans incapable of playing without 3rd party programs. It's expensive because it's fairly rare like most KC weapons and a toy.