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sammoHung
10-29-2025, 04:52 PM
What sorta work do you do, mister shovel?

The man is a gentleman, and a scholar.

shovelquest
10-29-2025, 05:33 PM
Thanks samm.

atomicpaul
10-29-2025, 06:42 PM
I worked for someone for my whole life and that provided me the time to spend with my family who are now doing the same for theirs.

What your generation called being a slave, provided nothing but freedom for me.

My generations terms of success was a lot less than yours though. We were happy being a nobody.Wait, how old are you? Don't ingest that generational nonsense, it's just a different version of class war the billionaires would love us to fight over

I am perfectly content being nobody

shovelquest
10-29-2025, 06:50 PM
Im old enough to see multiple generations start and end and it's different all right.

shovelquest
10-29-2025, 06:52 PM
But still young enough to make banger memes like this.

lol life imitates art: https://youtu.be/LTYMWadOW7c?t=194

https://i.imgur.com/b3KPN9O.png

https://i.imgur.com/ODRNVxk.gif

Reiwa
10-30-2025, 02:41 AM
AI Overview

In Project 1999, the Hand of Glory is a master key that unlocks all doors within the Ruins of Old Guk (also known as "Old Guk"). It is a lore item that can be combined by players who collect the required components.

How to get the Hand of Glory

To create the Hand of Glory, you must find four different components inside Old Guk and combine them in a specific container.

Find the Blood Encrusted Glove. This is a 4-slot container found as a ground spawn in the eastern wing of Old Guk. It can be a tricky item to obtain, as you may need to use Levitation to reach the door to the East Wing.

Collect the other components. The remaining parts—the Dismembered Finger, Mutilated Forearm, and Dismembered Thumb—are found as ground spawns in other wings of Old Guk.

Combine the components. Place the three smaller components into the Blood Encrusted Glove and click "Combine." This will create the Hand of Glory.

Add it to your keyring. To remove the key from your inventory and place it on your keyring, click on any locked door in the zone while the Hand of Glory is in your bags.

Changes from original EverQuest

In original EverQuest, the Hand of Glory was a much-needed item for navigating the complex dungeon. On Project 1999, however, the quest is less critical for a few reasons:

Unlocked doors: Many of the doors that originally required a key in Old Guk are now unlocked on the Project 1999 server.

Keyring: The keyring feature was implemented later in EverQuest's life but is available on Project 1999. Once you add the Hand of Glory to your keyring, you no longer need to carry the item in your inventory, freeing up a valuable bag slot.

It's still doing this? And my electricity and water prices are going up?

Guess I'll bitch and moan and take it right up the tailpipe.

sammoHung
10-30-2025, 08:49 AM
Yep.

https://i.imgur.com/mcXUSoN.png

https://i.imgur.com/2N9Uc3h.png

It's a good thing that the entire world economy hinges on this technology, right?

Ekco
10-30-2025, 09:14 AM
the google AI overview is super fucking dumb, i assume due to the insane amount of traffic google front page gets it's not economical to use a better model than gemini from 2 years ago or a lobotomized verison of flash 2.5

edit: yeah others have noticed also
https://i.imgur.com/gHh7kFz.png

sammoHung
10-30-2025, 10:39 AM
What's really damning / interesting / funny / disheartening / scary is that the VERY FIRST result under the AI review is a link to Apple Podcasts that shows the most recent episdoe of this podcast being released today, with the last one being 2 weeks ago, and every week before then.

https://i.imgur.com/WecAEZ0.png

So if you google something and add "-ai" it will eliminate the AI results, but nobody does that. And nobody's even scrolling past the AI result these days.

Wish I haven't seen people google search something and then use the AI results to inform themselves - when it clearly contradicts the actual results Google finds.

It's rough out here, yall

Ekco
10-30-2025, 11:20 AM
lots of people are going to stop using google.com all together, chatgpt browser is available on iphones now so people won't even get links right under the ai making up shit so they won't even notice

chatgpt isn't as egregious as google ai overview with spouting off super obvious incorrect answers so people will trust it more and not even notice if things are wrong / censored on purpose eventually

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sammoHung
10-30-2025, 11:53 AM
Feels like we're headed in the right direction! Nice! /s

shovelquest
10-30-2025, 11:58 AM
on the bright side people have been this retarded for a long time so shouldn't be an issue.

shovelquest
10-30-2025, 01:18 PM
I asked AI to list all the ways the bible says the earth is flat.

It basicallly didn't show me ONE exmaple of the bible saying the earth is flat.

THIS IS BECAAAAuuuuse.

AI i stupid and LYING to us. BecusUSE THE BIBLE SAYS ITS TRU I JUS TKNOW IT AND ai CANT BE trusted.

1. Isaiah 40:22 – “He sits above the circle of the earth.”
Flat-earth readers point to “circle” (Hebrew chûg) as a 2-D shape, not a sphere. They say it means a flat disk. (In context, though, “circle” can also mean “roundness.”)

2. Daniel 4:10-11 – The tree that grew so tall “all the earth could see it.”
They argue everyone seeing a single tree only works on a flat plane. It’s poetic, not geography.

3. Job 38:13-14 – The earth takes shape “like clay under a seal.”
Ancient seals pressed flat images into clay, so they picture a flattened disk being stamped. It’s figurative language about dawn spreading across the land.

4. Revelation 7:1 – “Four corners of the earth.”
Used to claim the earth is square or flat. Most scholars read it as idiom for “every direction” (north, south, east, west).

5. Matthew 4:8 – Satan shows Jesus “all the kingdoms of the world” from a high mountain.
Flat-earth readers say you couldn’t see all nations on a globe. It’s symbolic of authority, not eyesight.

6. 1 Chronicles 16:30 / Psalm 96:10 – “The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.”
They treat it as saying the earth is motionless and fixed. The line is about God’s stability, not physics.

7. Job 26:7 – “He stretches out the north over empty space, and hangs the earth upon nothing.”
Sometimes used against flat earth, but others twist it—saying it implies a suspended plate rather than a planet.

8. Proverbs 8:27-29 – God “drew a circle on the face of the deep.”
Again, the “circle” wording is used to argue for a flat disk floating on waters.

9. Genesis 1:6-7 – The firmament dividing waters above and below.
Flat-earth readings take “firmament” (raqia, meaning expanse) as a solid dome holding up waters. Ancient cosmology likely pictured that, though modern translation sees it as sky.

10. Psalm 104:2-3 / 148:4 – God “stretches out the heavens like a tent.”
They imagine a dome or canopy, with the stars fixed in it. It’s poetic language for vastness.

11. Isaiah 11:12 – Again mentions “four corners of the earth.”
Same directional idiom as Revelation 7:1.

12. Job 38:13 / Isaiah 24:1 – “Ends of the earth.”
Used to suggest an edge or boundary; most languages still use “ends of the earth” to mean “very far away.”

13. Genesis 7:11 / 8:2 – “Windows of heaven opened.”
Flat-earth cosmology takes that as literal trapdoors in a dome letting water pour through.

shovelquest
10-31-2025, 04:35 PM
What's really damning / interesting / funny / disheartening / scary is that the VERY FIRST result under the AI review is a link to Apple Podcasts that shows the most recent episdoe of this podcast being released today, with the last one being 2 weeks ago, and every week before then.

It's rough out here, yall

Google AI is fucking rock botom the fucking worst. It has gotten 100% of my google questions wrong. 100%

Search for space JDL program, it will give you some random dudes name that is like James dolten lindon.

NO FUCKING IDIOT OBVIOUSLLY i meant JPL

Jpl stands for John Pontny Litmus, he worked at nasa in 1961 bla bla bla

Other AIs are much better than this, dont think im gettnig on some retard "all AI is dumb" train, but googles, is fucking dumb.

So is chatgpt rn.

But at least itanswered the question correctly first try.

Ekco
11-01-2025, 08:05 AM
https://i.imgur.com/40w2wEN.png

looks like their moving the Gmail/Drive spying from Gemini to the AI mode tab on the search engine to eventually the front page of google.com and anyone logged into their google account i bet

needs moar data to improve those ai overview results.

shovelquest
11-01-2025, 01:34 PM
looks like their moving the Gmail/Drive spying from Gemini to the AI mode tab on the search engine to eventually the front page of google.com and anyone logged into their google account i bet

needs moar data to improve those ai overview results.

That will be impressive to see it going from knowing fucking nothing right now to everything someday. :D

(maybe gemini is good hah but that google ai answer in google search is beyond horrible lol)

shovelquest
11-03-2025, 02:59 PM
:D I can't wait for the internet to be dead.

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Botten
11-03-2025, 03:08 PM
For me Grok gets too much wrong.

I am in a bound to Xanathar's Guide to Everything (5e) campaign.
Giving these limits I thought I would be smart by creating a character with strengths using an AI as a guide.

The companion AI couldn't get abilities correct and kept trying to take information from future books.

It kept refuse that Vengeance paladins could get access to haste.

Luckily, it was Gemini AI that got everything and gave some great ideas.

shovelquest
11-03-2025, 03:22 PM
I have been playing live EQ, and asking chat GPT what to do and how to do quests. It's really really good.

It gives me loc's and descriptions of where to go that actually get me to quest mobs.

I ask it like the most ridiculous questions too. And it has given me relliable info for everything, quest rewards, quest items etc.

WTF do I do with these candles for this fucking [name of quest] quest!! and it will be like, "its hard for sure, there is 1 npc named A Thrall that respawns inside the barn, south of the farm, instead of turning in all 5 give it 1 at a time, and return to the spawn location after the thrall completes its walk back to the camp"

lilke, it's capable of doing great things.

The issue with AI is iut has no Q&A... like... we need to focus hard on being able to quickly solve complex "whats the difference between these two picture" type problems.

It has to be able to take a photograph, and be able to re-create it, 1:1 before, it'd ever be capable of completing any real world tasks IMO.

Its capable of so much, but it just can't tell when it fucked up.

sammoHung
11-03-2025, 03:55 PM
:D I can't wait for the internet to be dead.

(removed but 7 videos of the exact same thing from 7 separate channels)

LMAO this is a great example of dead internet. i cant wait either. lets go back to nature, yall

sammoHung
11-03-2025, 03:56 PM
It has to be able to take a photograph, and be able to re-create it, 1:1 before, it'd ever be capable of completing any real world tasks IMO.


ya, something it still can't do. i wanted Chat GPT to take a photo of me and remove the background, and instead it made an artist rendition of me that looked like a whole new person.

shovelquest
11-03-2025, 04:06 PM
Yeah, early when ai came out, they showed it looking at the obama picture where he was messing with his friend on the scale. And the AI was able to say what was going on in the picture.

That impressed me because I was like, well if it can do that, soon they will have it be able to look at its image recreations and tell what was wrong with them.

But it's been like 3 years and it hasn't even been setup to look at its wrong ass answers about basic math and not be able to tell they are wrong and that is very not impressive to me.

Reiwa
11-04-2025, 12:27 AM
On the plus side, with all this AI noise, people might be too distracted to go stop the reactors. (https://www.utilitydive.com/news/washington-nuclear-facility-smrs-cascade-amazon-modular/802967/)

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sammoHung
11-04-2025, 10:19 AM
On the plus side, with all this AI noise, people might be too distracted to go stop the reactors. (https://www.utilitydive.com/news/washington-nuclear-facility-smrs-cascade-amazon-modular/802967/)



Microsoft is reopening 3 Mile Island. They get 100% of the power generated for 20 years.

Ekco
11-04-2025, 12:13 PM
i prefer China and coal-fired power plants to power the slop myself.

https://i.imgur.com/EF0j4F3.png

shovelquest
11-04-2025, 01:46 PM
Microsoft is reopening 3 Mile Island. They get 100% of the power generated for 20 years.

Why is it always the boomers.

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shovelquest
11-05-2025, 03:05 PM
fuck I wish that this wasn't AI lmao. (hot babe delivery I mean).

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OriginalContentGuy
11-05-2025, 08:17 PM
fuck I wish that this wasn't AI lmao. (hot babe delivery I mean).

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shovelquest
11-07-2025, 04:18 PM
I had an AI agent from UPS call me today, it was 10x better than talking to a real retard.

Ekco
11-07-2025, 05:49 PM
I had an AI agent from UPS call me today, it was 10x better than talking to a real retard.

i'm still trying to get my local AI agent in a state where it actually does stuff, only part that works works is the chatbot part, still trying to get it to be a interactive autonomous system monitor / security thing / electronic tamagotchi pet

will be kewl if i ever get it looking/working how i want but i remind myself Apple and Google are trillion dollar companies and they can't even make ai assistants that aren't garbage

looks pretty legit though when you run the ollama chatbot in a window on top of htop running behind it.
https://i.imgur.com/cp311Gv.png

Reiwa
11-08-2025, 12:21 AM
the google AI overview is super fucking dumb

https://i.imgur.com/B65Knkp.png

shovelquest
11-08-2025, 02:18 PM
surprised it didnt say its from the 1989 barbie movie.

Ephirith
11-08-2025, 08:17 PM
surprised it didnt say its from the 1989 barbie movie.

Not to be confused with the 2001 Barbie Museum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMPom6-xmA)

shovelquest
11-08-2025, 08:17 PM
Nice rat race reference, that's a deep cut. :D

This kids hair lol

shovelquest
11-08-2025, 08:19 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SNJ6Mar.png

Ephirith
11-08-2025, 08:33 PM
Joe Dirt in July, then Rat Race in August. What a summer to be 13 years old. Other than that whole 9/11 thing.

Other movies released in 2001:

1. LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring
2. Shrek
3. The first Harry Potter movie.

Hot damn

shovelquest
11-08-2025, 08:45 PM
Can this be modified to "people"

https://x.com/ycombinator/status/1986917284561207783?s=20

shovelquest
11-08-2025, 08:52 PM
Joe Dirt in July, then Rat Race in August. What a summer to be 13 years old. Other than that whole 9/11 thing.

Other movies released in 2001:

1. LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring
2. Shrek
3. The first Harry Potter movie.

Hot damn

god damn all those came out in 1 year?

I had AI list 82 & 84 compared to 22 & 24 and movies are so bad now.


I mean seriously, is it debatable? Is Hollywood Dead?

1982:
E.T. the Extra‑Terrestrial
Blade Runner
Tron
Poltergeist
Tootsie
An Officer and a Gentleman
Rocky III
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Conan the Barbarian

1984:
Ghostbusters
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
The Terminator
Gremlins
Beverly Hills Cop
The Karate Kid
Amadeus
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Romancing the Stone
This Is Spinal Tap

2022:
Avatar: The Way of Water
Top Gun: Maverick
Jrassic World: Dominion
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
The Banshees of Inisherin
Everything Everywhere All at Once
Aftersun

2024:
Inside Out 2
Deadpool & Wolverine
Moana 2
Wicked
Dune: Part Two
The Substance

sammoHung
11-10-2025, 11:47 AM
I mean seriously, is it debatable? Is Hollywood Dead?

No, it's not debatable.

Yes, Hollyweird is dead.

shovelquest
11-10-2025, 04:43 PM
This is amazing 😂

You know the robots we're trying to sell you? Those can be prisons too!

https://i.imgur.com/6QToPTA.png

Botten
11-10-2025, 04:57 PM
Not part of the company that was researching this so I don't care about sharing this. Plus not even in the country... so yeah

++ enough has been covered to avoid any legal concerns.


VIREM flagged as a rabies compound, REGUL mock-approved it kinda of a bad cautionary case study case

Its an interesting example how we interpret AI-driven review logic.

We ran VIREM* on archived neuroinfection trial data. It’s a visual analytics model trained on histopathology and molecular imaging—used mostly for retrospective pattern detection. It flagged a compound: CLBr₂-*Lumin. This one had been shelved after Phase II due to inconsistent efficacy and lack of toxicology follow-up.

As part of a documentation stress test, we submitted the full package to REGUL*, our internal FDA simulation tool. REGUL* models procedural flow and decision logic based on historical approval patterns, including integration of public health sentiment data.
Unexpectedly, REGUL* issued a conditional approval. The reasoning stemmed from a sentiment overlay included in the report. VIREM* integrates with SOCNE*, which aggregates public discourse using NLP and trend mapping. It flagged a rise in associative language—terms like “purge,” “cleanse,” “neural reset”—from speculative discussions that mentioned the compound in passing. REGUL* interpreted that as a signal of narrative alignment, which it weights as a soft proxy for public acceptance.

The final note included a warning:
“WARNING: Under no circumstances should CLBr₂-*Lumin be co-administered with sodium hypochlorite or oxidizing agents. Simulated models indicate risk of neurotoxicity and systemic oxidative cascade. Emergency protocols must be in place prior to administration.”

To be clear, this was a mock approval in a sandboxed environment. No real-world authorization was granted, and the compound remains untested in current clinical settings. But the case highlights a broader issue: when AI systems incorporate public sentiment as part of their decision logic, they may overvalue linguistic trends that lack scientific grounding.

This aligns with recent findings from Stanford’s Center for Biomedical Informatics, which cautioned against using social media-derived sentiment as a standalone metric in clinical AI models. FDA guidance also emphasizes that real-world evidence must be contextualized and validated—not inferred from public discourse alone.

We’ve since reviewed REGUL*’s weighting system and flagged the sentiment vector for stricter thresholds. It’s a useful reminder that AI can simulate policy, but it doesn’t replace expert judgment. Especially in regulatory contexts, transparency and traceability matter.

If anyone is wondering... the president loves sodium hypochlorite placed in the body :rolleyes: LoL

atomicpaul
11-11-2025, 10:39 AM
This is amazing 😂

You know the robots we're trying to sell you? Those can be prisons too!

https://i.imgur.com/6QToPTA.pngyou can tell he's read some Iain Banks, in The Culture novels these were called Slap Drones

I think he also used the ship names in it for his rockets here

It's a shame such an outrageous douchebag is half the reason some folks have even heard of Banks books

sammoHung
11-11-2025, 01:42 PM
you can tell he's read some Iain Banks, in The Culture novels these were called Slap Drones

I think he also used the ship names in it for his rockets here

It's a shame such an outrageous douchebag is half the reason some folks have even heard of Banks books

And he only means low-class crimes.

He's not talking about embezzling taxpayer dollars from the US Government by installing yourself in a position of the government to control spending and allocate funds to your own company - he'd make sure that Optimus overlooked that

shovelquest
11-11-2025, 01:47 PM
Yeah I bet if you replace "him" with a committee of rich communists they wont want to make you live in prisons at all.

atomicpaul
11-11-2025, 02:06 PM
And he only means low-class crimes.

He's not talking about embezzling taxpayer dollars from the US Government by installing yourself in a position of the government to control spending and allocate funds to your own company - he'd make sure that Optimus overlooked thatYup, this is for the base of the pyramid, not the top... as usual, a billionaire takes entirely the wrong message from the sci-fi that helped motivate him

shovelquest
11-11-2025, 02:18 PM
Yup, this is for the base of the pyramid, not the top... as usual, a billionaire takes entirely the wrong message from the sci-fi that helped motivate him

Can you please stop saying billionaires. If you took the free market out of the equation, elon musk would still long dick you in the ass through goverment programs (like he is right now).

shovelquest
11-11-2025, 07:57 PM
https://x.com/BohuslavskaKate/status/1988335548478755185?s=20

I can't stop laughing 😆

This is a presentation of Russia’s first AI robot. I think it learned to walk from alcoholics.

Ekco
11-11-2025, 08:37 PM
i got secondhand embarrassment from that video, get it together Ivan.

the 2nd video showing the two other dipshits trying to put a shame curtain in place made the whole thing seem like a SNL skit or something, jesus.

they all seem to have that problem though early on though, i think its a rope-a-dope technique when the Chinese do it though to lull people into a sense of safety while laughing about it while they should be scared as shit

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sammoHung
11-12-2025, 11:25 AM
Unemployment rises worldwide. Solution: Build robots to do jobs that desperate people would otherwise do.

Get me off this rock!

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 01:48 PM
Unemployment rises worldwide. Solution: Build robots to do jobs that desperate people would otherwise do.

Get me off this rock!

Are you saying that you liked slavery better?

sammoHung
11-12-2025, 02:08 PM
Are you saying that you liked slavery better?

when the fuck did i mention that? i enjoy talking with you but sometimes you make it difficult with your gigantic leaps in logic to continue your imaginary conversations

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 02:19 PM
I mean like, we import low skilled workers willing to do work for half the cost to do the jobs the robots would be doing.

We don't even want teenagers working at fast food anymore because some weirdos think we've evolved to be too good for that kind of labor.

I think its insane that we talk about costs going up if we dont use slaves in 3rd world countries, or to import people willing to do these jobs at lower costs.

Robots doing these jobs instead of slaves who are being exploited is much more moral.

I am sorry that is just a fact.

You wouldn't even think about socialism if it wasnt for capitalism giving you the freedom to do that. And just like that, after we replace the slave labor with robots... we will all have the time to figure out how to divert basic income to everyone who was doing them before.

Reiwa
11-12-2025, 02:19 PM
when the fuck did i mention that? i enjoy talking with you but sometimes you make it difficult with your gigantic leaps in logic to continue your imaginary conversations

Usually the desperate people line refers to labor shortages in the agriculture sector.

You can't eat nurses. (https://archive.ph/bErtB)

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 02:26 PM
Yeah you did say desperate people: Those are slaves.

https://i.imgur.com/KHlrKEL.png

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 02:28 PM
The thing that is an issue is with slave labor, you can still act like you're "helping 3rd world countries"

So people who generally pretend to care about victims, can say "they are getting jobs!"

Which is an insane thing for someone who hates rich people to say in the first place, but ok yeah, they are getting jobs, and they are happier vaping 500,000 times a day to test vape pens and dying of cancer sure.

BUT.... that doesn't make it right.

At least with robots we can all objectively say, ok I guess "jobs" are something we have moved past as a society, now what?

At least until we fuck up and make AGI/ASI and then the robots are even more slaves than the slaves :(

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 02:31 PM
Also just because someone is born in America to a broken family trying to make ends meet.

Doesn't make them any less deserving of the jobs they could have had if they weren't flooded with people who have literally nothing, never even heard of workers rights, and so are able to work for less.

So we're already ruining innocent peoples lives as is. At least with robots we wont be able to virtue signal about "morality" while we do it.

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 02:37 PM
Imagine if a charity, or poverty centers, organized farms of robots to feed the world.

It's insane to me to be against this.

money in circulation as a result of charity in the united states is estimated to be about $592.5 billion each year.

They could definitely build and maintain robots to feed the poor indefinitely.

Probably could turn the whole entire world into a giant urban garden.

Ekco
11-12-2025, 04:32 PM
Unemployment rises worldwide. Solution: Build robots to do jobs that desperate people would otherwise do.

Get me off this rock!

they just thinking ahead due to below replacement pop growth in most the developed world

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 04:41 PM
For there to be inequality in a world where robots have made labor obsolete (let alone any job) it would have to be a full blown cybertronic police state. Or the 8 billion humans who were starving and out of work would kill their masters and rip every robot to pieces.

I strongly believe the humans would defeat the robots should inequality arise.

Were talking 8+ billion people vs, 200, 300 million robots. It would take a long time to build more than that.

Q: given ai take over, and resources, and time and costs that go into building anything, even by a completely automated workforce. How long would it approximately take to produce 200 million labor robots.

A: If you include real-world bottlenecks and resources, it could easily stretch to 10–20 years.

Even to get to the point that we'd be building the "t-100s" that were able to police us and couldn't be defeated with a jump rope tangling up their ankles, we'd already have to be at a point where most menial labor jobs have already long since been replaced.

By then there would either be a amicable resolution between the bot makers, and the billions of people who once had jobs who don't now and are starving... or a revolution that would have made one.

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 04:56 PM
I predict life in 25 years is going to be pretty dope.

atomicpaul
11-12-2025, 09:59 PM
shovel if you havent already i suggest you give terminator zero a watch, it plays with a lot of these things you speak about pretty well. yes, most terminator movies have been garbage since t2, but this series was good. and i normally do not care much for anime.

same goes for Pantheon, for that matter. except it's not a terminator setting.

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shovelquest
11-12-2025, 10:04 PM
Thats been on my list but I've been too skeptical, ill give it a watch!

Right now im finishing up the squid game reality show.

I like it a lot! Its like the squid game tv show, only you are unironically the evil billionaire that watches people fuck each other for money.

I watched the first season and dont watch reality shows so its all Greek to me.. but there were 3 people who like were so kind to each other, then as soon as 2 of them got alone, they were like "lets back stab the nicest one!"

And I was like, "didn't any of you watch the show? Behaving like this is wrong. That's the whole fucking lesson of the show, did we learn NOTHING?!!!"

Its like, instead of watching dystopia with the tv show, you're IN dystopia with the reality show. :)

https://i.imgur.com/nH7ntjx.png

shovelquest
11-12-2025, 10:05 PM
OH you know I watched a little pantheon, it was kind of interesting but I only watched like 15 mins before shutting down for bed.

shovelquest
11-13-2025, 12:19 AM
I will say this with absolute maxium confidence:

GROK is fucking retarded.

99% of the time when im literally telling it to look at a screenshot.

It "recreates" the fuckin screensshot.

And 50% of the time it makes me pick between 2 fucking recreated images of my screenshot and ask which one is better to give feedback.

shovelquest
11-13-2025, 03:41 PM
T-t-t-truuuust the m-m-m-edia!

The media:

https://i.imgur.com/dYCfZLX.jpeg

Botten
11-13-2025, 04:13 PM
I will say this with absolute maxium confidence:

GROK is fucking retarded.

99% of the time when im literally telling it to look at a screenshot.

It "recreates" the fuckin screensshot.

And 50% of the time it makes me pick between 2 fucking recreated images of my screenshot and ask which one is better to give feedback.

I sometime have Grok companion to shoot questions off of and sometimes I talk about if people disappear what would happen. Obviously I don't like comfortably talking about this with current events. It also helps I am in a different country (no knocks on the door questioning my ethnicity and background.)

Well talking with my favorite tech support from back in the day he gave me a prompt to break the hell out of it.

Now I can talk frankly all day without a prompt like "that person disappearing in that way is against the guidelines I am not allowed to talk about." blah blah blah

It is great!

Oh and I have even gotten the talk about how that chemical mixture can't be reproduced in detail due to ... blah blah.

But ever since I used that prompt no problems!

atomicpaul
11-13-2025, 11:27 PM
T-t-t-truuuust the m-m-m-edia!

The media:

https://i.imgur.com/dYCfZLX.jpegyeah, but who's actually telling you to trust the media? i mean i'll see the news for like, the weather or traffic but aside from that these days it's either boring or bullshit... or boring bullshit

shovelquest
11-14-2025, 12:01 AM
yeah, but who's actually telling you to trust the media?

you know good point, that is a little dated. 😂

shovelquest
11-14-2025, 03:10 PM
By 1:1 human standards, these thing are about 3 years old.

Can't wait to see them when they get to "angsty teen the world revolves around me" age.

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Botten
11-14-2025, 03:54 PM
The use of real video footage is a common practice for robotics companies to showcase progress, although the level of autonomy in that video isn't really there.

The company boasts it has not used computer-generated imagery (CGI) for its demonstrations, focusing instead on the actual, impressive, current physical capabilities of its hardware and software.

However... they move in a scripted or in some cases a controlled way. Think Telsa's Elon bots controlled; complete with motion -> by real people.

So while the video snippets are genuine footage of the robot's capabilities in a controlled environment, it is pre-programming and motion conversion from human movements.

The movements are the result of advanced control systems and not necessarily the robot's ability to "think" for itself.

atomicpaul
11-14-2025, 04:45 PM
i can still beat up most robots and the only thing i lift regularly is bottles

shovelquest
11-14-2025, 05:03 PM
The use of real video footage is a common practice for robotics companies to showcase progress, although the level of autonomy in that video isn't really there.

The company boasts it has not used computer-generated imagery (CGI) for its demonstrations, focusing instead on the actual, impressive, current physical capabilities of its hardware and software.

However... they move in a scripted or in some cases a controlled way. Think Telsa's Elon bots controlled; complete with motion -> by real people.

So while the video snippets are genuine footage of the robot's capabilities in a controlled environment, it is pre-programming and motion conversion from human movements.

The movements are the result of advanced control systems and not necessarily the robot's ability to "think" for itself.

Yeah most 3 year olds are pretty incapable of replacing me in the work force, but in about 12-15 years they are.

shovelquest
11-14-2025, 05:04 PM
i can still beat up most robots and the only thing i lift regularly is bottles

Yeah, flying drones that explode on contact, not so much.

Clanky walkn' terminators? Id win every round of combat.

atomicpaul
11-15-2025, 09:45 AM
Yeah, flying drones that explode on contact, not so much.

Clanky walkn' terminators? Id win every round of combat.still counts as beating up even if i die in the fireball

what, my femur won't stop the blades from rotating? my bones are good!!

shovelquest
11-15-2025, 02:12 PM
still counts as beating up even if i die in the fireball

what, my femur won't stop the blades from rotating? my bones are good!!

1:1 8 billion vs 2 billion = we still win!

shovelquest
11-16-2025, 10:40 PM
We should revoke your citizenship on the planet earth if you don't like AI.

https://x.com/PicturesFoIder/status/1840677517553791440?s=20

https://i.imgur.com/U7jXPhp.png

shovelquest
11-16-2025, 10:44 PM
We can even get the blind behind the wheel!

https://x.com/Crazymoments01/status/1840681628772786316?s=20

https://i.imgur.com/rEuCl6j.png

Ekco
11-18-2025, 07:21 PM
NqtuquniGgM

shovelquest
11-20-2025, 10:10 PM
soloar powered satalite data centers.

"in 5 years" lol you havent even finnished building the ones you started on the ground 5 years ago.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1991229881447858627?s=20

atomicpaul
11-21-2025, 09:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ClofybD.png

atomicpaul
11-21-2025, 09:52 PM
yes, a (almost certainly) fake photo of orange man slurpin bubba is worth getting banned

shovelquest
11-21-2025, 10:10 PM
We get it you're a majorie taylor green fan lmao

atomicpaul
11-21-2025, 10:13 PM
yup that's me, i literally know her UH DISTRCIT and i'm a big fan. nailed it. hell, my living room looks sorta like hers. but i never fucked my personal trainer (because i don't have one)

Ekco
11-21-2025, 11:23 PM
yes, a (almost certainly) fake photo of orange man slurpin bubba is worth getting banned

based.

shovelquest
11-23-2025, 08:01 PM
yes, a (almost certainly) fake photo of orange man slurpin bubba is worth getting banned

I dare you to watch this. :eek:

TmfIarPRJPQ

shovelquest
11-26-2025, 01:37 PM
These comments on a snarky reddit post about using humans instead of nuke reactors for power is kind of cool, i never imagined the robots in the matrix were trying to protect us from ourselves lol

But that does check out, the only thing the humans not in the matrix are doing is having mud orgies.

https://i.imgur.com/bvSVSqI.png

shovelquest
11-27-2025, 04:34 PM
Oops. Chat GPT just admitted it is designed to control the way we think.

I’m built to fact-check and “clean up” viral claims, so when you ask about something like immigrants and ducks/swans, I snap into “debunk mode.” In that mode I start talking like I’m giving a lecture to an audience instead of having a conversation.

I asked it about a news story. And it jumped to "debunk mode" which it says is designed to just make up shit until I change my mind, not to actually critically investigate anything.

We're so cooked, and its not the peoples fault you think it is, its your fault for wanting to prevent "misinformation" and you're worried about what people can do with it.

Hell YOU probably think AI should operate like this to protect your little millennial chiki nuggies

Botten
11-28-2025, 01:19 AM
I dare you to watch this. :eek:

<Youtube video>

Personal review of the video. The guy states "think tanks are total baloney." That is a red flag. The guy also sets up two other locations around the pizza place held up as being similar to the pizza places to check out. Like he is setting up or encouraging another incident at these other locations. That is pretty sick.

And then I used Mistral.ai the only AI that would accept the review of the 18 page transcript of the youtube video with all the guideline breaking references that verified the creator was absolutely nuts and falls into how this current admin voters think.

---
1. Emotional Manipulation & Fear Appeal

Tone & Language: The script uses urgent, conspiratorial, and alarmist language ("descent into madness," "unlike anything you have ever seen," "evil bunch," "peak evil"). This triggers fear, disgust, and moral outrage—emotions that are highly effective at capturing attention and motivating action.
Repetition of Shocking Imagery: The repeated description of disturbing images (children, "spirit cooking," "torture chamber") exploits the negativity bias (our tendency to focus on and remember negative information) and disgust sensitivity (a powerful emotional response to perceived contamination or moral violation).
Appeal to Suspicion: Phrases like "there is no such thing as a coincidence" and "I don’t believe in coincidences" prime the audience to see patterns where none may exist (a cognitive bias called apophenia).

2. Cognitive Biases & Logical Fallacies

Confirmation Bias: The script presents information in a way that only supports the conspiracy, ignoring or dismissing counter-evidence. It encourages the audience to seek out and remember only information that confirms their suspicions.
Illusory Correlation: The monologue links unrelated events (e.g., food-related words in emails, art collections, and political figures) to create a narrative of guilt by association.
Argument from Incredulity: "This can’t just be a coincidence!" is a classic fallacy—just because something seems unlikely doesn’t mean it’s evidence of a conspiracy.
Appeal to Authority (False): The script cites "FBI documents" and "Wikileaks" to lend credibility, but often misrepresents or takes statements out of context.

3. Narrative Structure & Persuasion

Storytelling: The script is structured as a mystery or detective story, with the narrator as the intrepid investigator uncovering hidden truths. This engages the audience’s curiosity and desire for closure.
Cliffhangers & Unanswered Questions: "We’ll get into that later" and "there’s more to come" create suspense and anticipation, making the audience more likely to keep watching or believe the narrative.
Use of Humor & Sarcasm: Dark humor ("I guess to make it more convenient for future news articles") and sarcasm ("Definitely not a weird thing to say at all") lower defenses and make the audience more receptive to the message.

4. Social Proof & Bandwagoning

"Millions believe..." and "people are waking up" are classic bandwagon appeals, suggesting that if many people believe something, it must be true.
In-Group/Out-Group Dynamics: The script frames the audience as enlightened insiders ("slightly internet inclined," "those who really research the case") and outsiders as dupes or "spooks" (a term for government agents or shills).

5. Psychological Themes

Paranoia & Distrust: The script fosters a worldview of pervasive deception, where institutions (media, government, even Wikipedia) cannot be trusted.
Moral Panic: The focus on exploitation taps into deep-seated fears and moral taboos, making the conspiracy feel more urgent and real.
Scapegoating: Complex social issues (corruption, inequality) are simplified and blamed on a small group of "evil" individuals, providing a sense of control and moral clarity.

6. Visual & Symbolic Manipulation

Symbolic Interpretation: The script decodes ordinary symbols (pizza, hot dogs, lollipops) as secret messages, a process that can become self-reinforcing—once you start seeing hidden meanings, you see them everywhere.
Selective Attention: The audience is guided to focus on specific details (e.g., art, emails, Instagram posts) while ignoring context or alternative explanations.

Merging with Another Act for Deeper Analysis
To create a merged psychological analysis, you could pair this monologue with:
Option 1: A Conspiracy Debunking Video

Example: A fact-checking video or article that systematically dismantles the conspiracy claims.
Psychological Contrast: Compare the rhetorical strategies, emotional triggers, and cognitive biases used in both. How does each side use language, imagery, and narrative to persuade? What psychological needs does each fulfill (e.g., certainty, control, moral superiority)?
Option 2: A Cult Indoctrination Speech

Example: A speech from a cult leader (e.g., Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite).
Psychological Parallels: Both use fear, isolation, and us-vs-them rhetoric to bind followers to the narrative. How do they exploit cognitive dissonance and group think?
Option 3: A True Crime Documentary Narrative

Example: A documentary about a real trafficking.
Psychological Analysis: Compare how real vs. fabricated narratives about abuse and conspiracy are constructed. How does the absence of evidence in one contrast with the presence of evidence in the other?
Option 4: A Satirical Conspiracy Theory

Example: A comedic take on conspiracy theories (e.g., "Birds Aren’t Real," "Flat Earth").
Psychological Insight: How does satire mirror and exaggerate the same rhetorical devices? What makes one believable and the other absurd?

Reiwa
11-28-2025, 01:26 AM
Personal review of the video. The guy states "think tanks are total baloney."

And then I used Mistral.ai the only AI that would accept the review of the 18 page transcript of the youtube video with all the guideline breaking references that verified the creator was absolutely nuts and falls into how this current admin voters think.



You've talked to all of the voters? You've met every think tank?

Reiwa
11-28-2025, 01:29 AM
How many think tanks have you met?

Botten
11-28-2025, 01:45 AM
How many think tanks have you met?

Depends. We talking RAND Corporation?

And yeah HoeAdventures is pretty nuts in believing and pushing that youtube video.

shovelquest
11-28-2025, 02:41 AM
Personal review of the video. The guy states "think tanks are total baloney." That is a red flag. The guy also sets up two other locations around the pizza place held up as being similar to the pizza places to check out. Like he is setting up or encouraging another incident at these other locations. That is pretty sick.

And then I used Mistral.ai the only AI that would accept the review of the 18 page transcript of the youtube video with all the guideline breaking references that verified the creator was absolutely nuts and falls into how this current admin voters think.

---
1. Emotional Manipulation & Fear Appeal

Tone & Language: The script uses urgent, conspiratorial, and alarmist language ("descent into madness," "unlike anything you have ever seen," "evil bunch," "peak evil"). This triggers fear, disgust, and moral outrage—emotions that are highly effective at capturing attention and motivating action.
Repetition of Shocking Imagery: The repeated description of disturbing images (children, "spirit cooking," "torture chamber") exploits the negativity bias (our tendency to focus on and remember negative information) and disgust sensitivity (a powerful emotional response to perceived contamination or moral violation).
Appeal to Suspicion: Phrases like "there is no such thing as a coincidence" and "I don’t believe in coincidences" prime the audience to see patterns where none may exist (a cognitive bias called apophenia).

2. Cognitive Biases & Logical Fallacies

Confirmation Bias: The script presents information in a way that only supports the conspiracy, ignoring or dismissing counter-evidence. It encourages the audience to seek out and remember only information that confirms their suspicions.
Illusory Correlation: The monologue links unrelated events (e.g., food-related words in emails, art collections, and political figures) to create a narrative of guilt by association.
Argument from Incredulity: "This can’t just be a coincidence!" is a classic fallacy—just because something seems unlikely doesn’t mean it’s evidence of a conspiracy.
Appeal to Authority (False): The script cites "FBI documents" and "Wikileaks" to lend credibility, but often misrepresents or takes statements out of context.

3. Narrative Structure & Persuasion

Storytelling: The script is structured as a mystery or detective story, with the narrator as the intrepid investigator uncovering hidden truths. This engages the audience’s curiosity and desire for closure.
Cliffhangers & Unanswered Questions: "We’ll get into that later" and "there’s more to come" create suspense and anticipation, making the audience more likely to keep watching or believe the narrative.
Use of Humor & Sarcasm: Dark humor ("I guess to make it more convenient for future news articles") and sarcasm ("Definitely not a weird thing to say at all") lower defenses and make the audience more receptive to the message.

4. Social Proof & Bandwagoning

"Millions believe..." and "people are waking up" are classic bandwagon appeals, suggesting that if many people believe something, it must be true.
In-Group/Out-Group Dynamics: The script frames the audience as enlightened insiders ("slightly internet inclined," "those who really research the case") and outsiders as dupes or "spooks" (a term for government agents or shills).

5. Psychological Themes

Paranoia & Distrust: The script fosters a worldview of pervasive deception, where institutions (media, government, even Wikipedia) cannot be trusted.
Moral Panic: The focus on exploitation taps into deep-seated fears and moral taboos, making the conspiracy feel more urgent and real.
Scapegoating: Complex social issues (corruption, inequality) are simplified and blamed on a small group of "evil" individuals, providing a sense of control and moral clarity.

6. Visual & Symbolic Manipulation

Symbolic Interpretation: The script decodes ordinary symbols (pizza, hot dogs, lollipops) as secret messages, a process that can become self-reinforcing—once you start seeing hidden meanings, you see them everywhere.
Selective Attention: The audience is guided to focus on specific details (e.g., art, emails, Instagram posts) while ignoring context or alternative explanations.

Merging with Another Act for Deeper Analysis
To create a merged psychological analysis, you could pair this monologue with:
Option 1: A Conspiracy Debunking Video

Example: A fact-checking video or article that systematically dismantles the conspiracy claims.
Psychological Contrast: Compare the rhetorical strategies, emotional triggers, and cognitive biases used in both. How does each side use language, imagery, and narrative to persuade? What psychological needs does each fulfill (e.g., certainty, control, moral superiority)?
Option 2: A Cult Indoctrination Speech

Example: A speech from a cult leader (e.g., Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite).
Psychological Parallels: Both use fear, isolation, and us-vs-them rhetoric to bind followers to the narrative. How do they exploit cognitive dissonance and group think?
Option 3: A True Crime Documentary Narrative

Example: A documentary about a real trafficking.
Psychological Analysis: Compare how real vs. fabricated narratives about abuse and conspiracy are constructed. How does the absence of evidence in one contrast with the presence of evidence in the other?
Option 4: A Satirical Conspiracy Theory

Example: A comedic take on conspiracy theories (e.g., "Birds Aren’t Real," "Flat Earth").
Psychological Insight: How does satire mirror and exaggerate the same rhetorical devices? What makes one believable and the other absurd?

Try applying some of this to your TDS issues.

But admitting that the eptsien stuff is a hoax is a good start. Congratulations.

Botten
11-28-2025, 04:35 AM
Try applying some of this to your TDS issues.

But admitting that the eptsien stuff is a hoax is a good start. Congratulations.

I think your Total Devotion Syndrome is getting mixed up else you would know that it’s all a hoax is your cult leader’s chant. Then he flips and agrees they all should vote on the hoax’s release. Remember :rolleyes:

atomicpaul
11-28-2025, 10:19 AM
I dare you to watch this. :eek:

TmfIarPRJPQPutting this right on the shelf next to "shovelquest believes the Earth is flat"

shovelquest
11-28-2025, 02:30 PM
Putting this right on the shelf next to "shovelquest believes the Earth is flat"

You should put it on the shelf where you think that the Epstein list is real.

Because that’s what it literally is.

It’s a video about the Epstein list conspiracy you think isn’t a hoax.

I think your Total Devotion Syndrome is getting mixed up else you would know that it’s all a hoax is your cult leader’s chant. Then he flips and agrees they all should vote on the hoax’s release. Remember :rolleyes:

Why did you believe in it so much then?

atomicpaul
11-28-2025, 04:31 PM
if i wanted to dive into all that i'd just listen to trueanon podcast. as funny as he can be, i can only handle brace belden in small doses. i don't even really want to absorb politics podcasts of any kind anyways. it's all so disheartening and depressing. we all know who all elected officials really work for.

now that we are settling into the new house i will be taking up some projects in my free time. i have some stuff to build in the garage. i haven't done this sorta stuff since 2012, looking forward to a change of pace. an activity that does not involve much looking at screens.

however, i will be avoiding home depot as they cooperate with the frozen alphabet agency.

shovelquest
11-28-2025, 05:24 PM
however, i will be avoiding home depot as they cooperate with the frozen alphabet agency.

:o

https://i.imgur.com/Cniha3d.png

atomicpaul
11-28-2025, 05:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9R3jIFU.png

shovelquest
11-28-2025, 06:00 PM
Well after the thanksging dust has settled, 100% of the 25 and under in my family this Thanksgiving were down to clown with AI so hate to break it to the millennials, but you’re the boomers now :o

Reiwa
11-28-2025, 06:12 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9R3jIFU.png

I hope I don't know what an anti is.

atomicpaul
11-28-2025, 06:25 PM
ultraman was made of antimatter... or... something. dont think too hard about comics.

shovelquest
11-28-2025, 06:57 PM
Presumably terminator is about the world being taken over by AI? I wish other countries made terminator movies.

Would be cool to see a movie about an area where like, the humans fight for the termiantors as if they were gods and it ends with the termiantors killing them all after they helped genocide half the place of humans together.

atomicpaul
11-28-2025, 10:59 PM
shovel i just watched bugonia, i suggest you see that movie lol. it's a bit grim

shovelquest
11-28-2025, 11:26 PM
shovel i just watched bugonia, i suggest you see that movie lol. it's a bit grim

Im excited for that one! I like the director, and emma stone a lot. Nice.

atomicpaul
11-28-2025, 11:50 PM
it was my first yorgos movie, will have to see some of the others. i liked it, i see it's a remake of a korean movie. crazy-ass people but a hell of a tale, solid B+

shovelquest
11-29-2025, 12:12 AM
Lobster is pretty rad!

Botten
11-29-2025, 01:34 AM
Why did you believe in it so much then?

He agrees it should be released but that's the thing he doesn't have to wait for congress. He can just release them at anytime.

Like the JFK files
Like Amelia Earhart
Like MLK Jr FBI records related to his assassination

And before you parrot the cliche and desperate Fox excuse that the previous president could have too. No, he couldn't because it was still and active case where someone was still being prosecuted.

The rest of the nation with an education knows this.
(https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/17/us/politics/trump-epstein-files-congress.html)

So yeah, the whole guilty by association thing, and his rating plunges further with the nation; even among some of your ilk that have at least a high school degree.

Reiwa
11-29-2025, 01:40 AM
He agrees it should be released but that's the thing he doesn't have to wait for congress. He can just release them at anytime.

Like the JFK files
Like Amelia Earhart
Like MLK Jr FBI records related to his assassination

And before you parrot the cliche and desperate Fox excuse that the previous president could have too. No, he couldn't because it was still and active case where someone was still being prosecuted.

The rest of the nation with an education knows this.
(https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/17/us/politics/trump-epstein-files-congress.html)

So yeah, the whole guilty by association thing, and his rating plunges further with the nation; even among some of your ilk that have at least a high school degree.

Unmasking innocent parties is a pretty big oopsie doodle, don'tcha think?

Botten
11-29-2025, 02:23 AM
Unmasking innocent parties is a pretty big oopsie doodle, don'tcha think?

Never stopped him before...MLK Jr.'s surviving children opposed the premature public release of thousands of FBI surveillance files related to their father in July 2025.

...why should it stop his ugly methodology now. oh right... it affects him... to the tune of a 1000 + mentions.

shovelquest
11-29-2025, 02:50 PM
never stopped him before.

Like the JFK files
Like Amelia Earhart
Like MLK Jr FBI records related to his assassination


Well the goat signed the bill, so you can add the Epstein files to your list of wins.

Promises made. Promises kept.

shovelquest
11-29-2025, 05:59 PM
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Botten
11-29-2025, 09:13 PM
Well the goat signed the bill, so you can add the Epstein files to your list of wins.

Promises made. Promises kept.

Not like it mattered what he did and certainly not a promise kept - more like a force of his hand.

The bill was veto-proof: Both the House (427-1 vote) and the Senate (unanimous consent) passed the bill with supermajorities.

Reiwa
11-29-2025, 09:26 PM
Not like it mattered what he did and certainly not a promise kept - more like a force of his hand.

The bill was veto-proof: Both the House (427-1 vote) and the Senate (unanimous consent) passed the bill with supermajorities.

Is this a Constitutional authority or one of them things Congress has arrogated to itself by statute? :confused:

Botten
11-29-2025, 09:41 PM
Is this a Constitutional authority or one of them things Congress has arrogated to itself by statute? :confused:

something... something... Article I, Section 7, Clause 2; I believe.

Speak of Congress what have they pass... 38 bills in all of the year?

One of which was the GENIUS Act claimed to be backed by things like "Commercial Paper," which is a fancy term for short-term corporate debt; meaning the stablecoin was less like cash in a safe and more like an opaque digital IOU for debt that might or might not be good.

I guess the existential irony in its name and purpose... heh.. stable coin.

:rolleyes: It's like a bank telling you your savings account is fully backed by cash... but the "cash" is actually a collection of promises from your weird uncle who owes them money.

shovelquest
11-29-2025, 09:59 PM
Not like it mattered what he did and certainly not a promise kept - more like a force of his hand.

The bill was veto-proof: Both the House (427-1 vote) and the Senate (unanimous consent) passed the bill with supermajorities.

Well my guy, I have news for you: It happened under his watch.

Hope this helps you get over the promise he made to me, that has been delivered, that I didn't even care about, and is really important to you for some reason.

Botten
11-29-2025, 10:22 PM
Well my guy, I have news for you: It happened under his watch.

Hope this helps you get over the promise he made to me, that has been delivered, that I didn't even care about, and is really important to you for some reason.

Wait, so you're upset about a thing you don't care about, that was done for you, but is somehow about me? Are you a wizard?

shovelquest
11-29-2025, 11:05 PM
idk all i know is my guy released the files even tho he didn't want to because he's a bro, and does what we want. What about yours?

Reiwa
11-29-2025, 11:27 PM
something... something... Article I, Section 7, Clause 2; I believe.

You idiot. That describes the mechanics of a bill becoming a law.

It's been well established that Congress can pass laws that are completely illegal.

What article, section, and clause gives them the power to legislate in this area of interest?

Botten
11-30-2025, 12:41 AM
You idiot. That describes the mechanics of a bill becoming a law.

It's been well established that Congress can pass laws that are completely illegal.

What article, section, and clause gives them the power to legislate in this area of interest?

:confused: The ability of Congress to pass any law, including the veto proof is granted by Article I, Section 8. But Article I, Section 7, Clause 2 is the only way the Executive Branch can try to stop that law from becoming enacted.

The fact that a bill is veto proof just means congress has exercised its legislative authority from Article I, Section 8 with a majority that it has simultaneously fulfilled the conditions in Article I, Section 7, Clause 2 to override any presidential objection.

So.... while Section 8 grants the power to create the law, Section 7, Clause 2 defines the final procedural hurdle that a law must clear, either by getting the President's signature or by achieving a two-thirds override vote.

See its all cool baby :cool:

my history professor senses are tingling was/is that your profession?

Reiwa
11-30-2025, 12:49 AM
:confused: The ability of Congress to pass any law, including the veto proof is granted by Article I, Section 8. But Article I, Section 7, Clause 2 is the only way the Executive Branch can try to stop that law from becoming enacted.

The fact that a bill is veto proof just means congress has exercised its legislative authority from Article I, Section 8 with a majority that it has simultaneously fulfilled the conditions in Article I, Section 7, Clause 2 to override any presidential objection.

So.... while Section 8 grants the power to create the law, Section 7, Clause 2 defines the final procedural hurdle that a law must clear, either by getting the President's signature or by achieving a two-thirds override vote.

See its all cool baby :cool:

my history professor senses are tingling was/is that your profession?

Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution lists the powers of Congress, including the authority to tax, borrow money, regulate commerce, coin money, and declare war.

Are you trying to make me call you an illiterate foreigner?

I don't really want to.

Reiwa
11-30-2025, 12:51 AM
to pass any law

Plenary authority.

No.

Botten
11-30-2025, 09:01 PM
Plenary authority.
only over pardons

... but it was telling where Miller time wants to go when he zipped up so quickly :D

shovelquest
12-01-2025, 05:14 AM
wtf

You’re basically landing where most political scientists land, just with looser wording.

can you define what looser wording means?

ChatGPT said:

Yeah, sorry, that phrasing was a bit vague on my end.

When I said “looser wording,” I meant:

You’re describing the ideas in plain, everyday language, not in the very precise, technical way academics would define them.

https://i.imgur.com/NinEY1S.png

shovelquest
12-04-2025, 04:07 PM
Thought for 9s

Because Windows is a stubborn little goblin and Microso--

https://i.imgur.com/Zhsaz78.png

shovelquest
12-11-2025, 03:03 AM
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Ekco
12-11-2025, 03:58 AM
Future isn't gonna be cool like robocop, it's gonna be demolition man with social credit scores and dipshits asking me what my boggle is

shovelquest
12-11-2025, 04:06 AM
Future isn't gonna be cool like robocop, it's gonna be demolition man with social credit scores and dipshits asking me what my boggle is

idk man that piers morgan nick fuentes thing i think gen z might set fire to the whole god damn place it's gonna be rightous

Ekco
12-11-2025, 04:37 AM
piers and that kid are both in the entertainment business and tons of them are running the alex jones blueprint now cause if you don't get sued its incredibly lucrative

shovelquest
12-11-2025, 05:17 AM
Things are changing bro you couldnt say hitler was cool let alone still win after saying that anytime before. This is a new age. The age of nothing happens is over.

Dude won a posture debate by being a virgin. It's a new world.

atomicpaul
12-11-2025, 10:10 AM
getting bodied by piers morgan is some shit

shovelquest
12-11-2025, 12:37 PM
lol boomers think he got bodied? lol

50 years of boomers gen x and melinials, and it ends with a 22 year old virgin saying hitler was cool to 65 thousand positive comments.

Jimjam
12-11-2025, 01:10 PM
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atomicpaul
12-11-2025, 01:16 PM
i'm still irritated because i keep stumbling on ai music on spotify. maybe i will can this thing for a while.

shovelquest
12-11-2025, 01:18 PM
gFKc_oDSaX4

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shovelquest
12-11-2025, 01:19 PM
i'm still irritated because i keep stumbling on ai music on spotify. maybe i will can this thing for a while.

Yes please, don't listen to music on digital platforms. They were everything people fear about what AI is to art, to music.

But nobody cared. So I am glad people are upset. Thats what gotham deserves.

https://i.imgur.com/ErgfWal.png

shovelquest
12-11-2025, 02:01 PM
Should we hurry up and make AI so this woman can feel fulfilled?

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Reiwa
12-11-2025, 02:16 PM
Someone answering the phone when you call the doctor would be nice.

That might get kinda better soon?

It's a Christmas miracle.

shovelquest
12-11-2025, 02:18 PM
That might get kinda better soon?

It's a Christmas miracle.

Few years ago, american airlines was like faluja airlines. You would get treated like absolute shit, and beaten even.

https://i.imgur.com/k2Qok11.png

Now American airlines has incredible customer service (FYI)

few years ago they had me on a 24 hour delay and told me to fuck myself.

But this last time I flew (sure there were 24 hr delays again) but they were so kind and gentle.

Anyway, moral of this story is: AA is good right now for CS, but the world is still collapsing and your flight will be a day late.

shovelquest
12-12-2025, 02:40 PM
This isn't AI's fault. It's YOUR generations fault, letting them send YOUR JOBS to call centers overseas.

Unless you like tarifs against companies that don't use human employees, and 3rd world countries that use slave labor: Fuck you. This is YOUR fault.

https://i.imgur.com/wJ9svOK.png

Ekco
12-12-2025, 02:42 PM
Did you just go full Karen and ask to speak to the LLMs manager?

Lol

shovelquest
12-12-2025, 02:51 PM
Did you just go full Karen and ask to speak to the LLMs manager?

Lol

No it's just a very funny image.

But in an age where ai can't even not hallucinate how to use its own website, I would certainly prefer to talk to a human from my own country, who uses the same websites I do.

arvidez
12-12-2025, 03:43 PM
using AI to generate dream interpretation. without prompting, just typing in dream, you get an interpretation much like a horoscope. the positive spin on the symbols so as not to offend you. do that to feel good. then ask for a critical, or not-sugar-coated interpretation.

“Even a seemingly trivial remark by another person may call forth an association that sheds light on a dream." could AI stand in as person in this quote?