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Thara
08-19-2025, 07:39 PM
Celsar Vestagon's hail response is incomplete and also lacks the dialogue leading to the piranha eradication quest.
Others are seemingly just missing their dialogue entirely.
The following is all from the October 2001 version of Vaslin's Everquest compendium.

Celsar Vestagon
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You say, 'hail Celsar Vestagon'

Celsar Vestagon says 'May the Truthbringer guide your path. I am Celsar Vestagon. Upholder of the faith. Cleric of Mithaniel Marr. I ask that you do not swim within the waters of the Hall of Truth. They are the home of the [Marr Minnow].

You say, 'What Marr Minnow?'

Celsar Vestagon says 'The Marr Minnow is unique to the Hall of Truth. It is a beautiful fish. Unfortunately, as of late, reports of piranha have been heard. Due to greater concerns, I must look for assistance from noble clerics who wish to help Marr and [eradicate the piranha].

Ghonic Erharn
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You say, 'hail Ghonic Erharn'

Ghonic Erharn says 'May the passion of Erollisi Marr grow strong within your soul. We here in this temple of Marr serve those who serve the wills of Mithaniel and Erollisi Marr. If you require healing or curing. Let us know.

You say, 'I require healing'

Ghonic Erharn says 'It is not my duty to see to the wounded. You must seek out Plur Etinu. He is in here somewhere.

Lanis Herion
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You say, 'hail Lanis Herion'

Lanis Herion says 'Greetings *name*. I hope you are following the teachings of the Queen of Passion, Erollisi Marr. The ways of love are many and shall warm the souls of all.

Arem Ulosia
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You say, 'hail Arem Ulosia'

Arem Ulosia says 'Praise be to Marr my friend. Welcome to the temple. If you are not a member of the congregation please speak with our priests. I am sure they can give you guidance.

Plur Etinu
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You say, 'hail Plur Etinu'

Plur Etinu says 'Your soul is welcome in our temple. The Queen of Love, Erollisi Marr desires more to our ranks. This city of Freeport must not stay in the control of the Freeport Militia. I am here if any [need healing], [cure poison] and [cure disease].

You say, 'I require a cure poison'

Plur Etinu says 'Before the Queen of Passion can force the toxin from your body, I shall require 3 Bixie Stingers to perform the act.

You say, 'I require cure disease'

Plur Etinu says 'The affliction which has been cast upon you shall be purged from your body, but first I need to portions of zombie flesh to perform the act.

You say, 'I need healing'

Plur Etinu says 'If it the power of the passion you require to bind your wounds, then lay down your tribute of 10 gold.

[Give Plur 10 gold or 1 plat]

Plur Etinu says 'May the unbridled passion of Erollisi Marr flow through your body.

Thurion Desius
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You say, 'hail Thurion Desius'

Thurion Desius says 'Good to see new visitors in the Temple of Marr. Please enlighten your soul with the followings of Erollisi Marr of Mithaniel Marr.

Thara
08-19-2025, 09:23 PM
This may be off topic for this post but it also seems like there are too few minnow/piranha spawns in the hall of truth pools.

RE: There are two pirahnas.
#Nov 03 2000 at 4:06 PM
Anonymous

There are 4 total fish. A mix of piranhas and minnows.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=617#m102489438793788
Hunting Tips NO FACTION HIT!!
#Jun 24 2002 at 12:02 AMRating: Decent
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*That should say no ADDITIONAL faction hits* This is to deal with those pesky minnows

First off your better off not to bother touching the minnows on the left of the Hall. Odds are they won't respawn as piranhas no matter what and you can even have up to 3 at a time. You'll just get frustrated and the guards do give boosts to their prescious fishies. I've also gotten KSed when I took my prey there.

To open the possiblity of another piranha on the right, if a minnow spawns, and not take a faction hit. The ones there do despawn but this is faster in the longer run than letting it work on it's own. When you are in the water and have a pirahna or two from the y-point DO NOT attack them. Swim toward the minnow and let them duke it out. The piranhas will not loose unless a guard comes by (their boosts are weak so minnows loose) and KS them. If the piranha does appears to be loosing boost if you can, it wont hit faction as long as you dont directly hurt the minnow. Once the minnow is dead finish off the piranha. When it respawns good chance it will be as a pirahna nd you'll know to head back to the y-point cause the other ones will spawn soon as well

...Enjoy and while your waiting for the spawn sit by the guards facing the spawn points and beg the guards, med, fish, etc. to occupy yourself and burn some time getting skills up.

Edited, Mon Jun 24 12:25:16 2002

Most of the comments on the quest seem very confused about placeholders and the amount of fish in the stream, but these to me seem the clearest and suggest that there should be 4 spawns in the hall of truth pools with 3 to the left of the bridge and 1 to the right in the sewer entrance side.

Teddie1056
08-20-2025, 02:11 AM
NEW QUEST ALERT! I gotta add em to my list!

nilbog
08-29-2025, 09:49 AM
Celsar Vestagon
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You say, 'hail Celsar Vestagon'

Celsar Vestagon says 'May the Truthbringer guide your path. I am Celsar Vestagon. Upholder of the faith. Cleric of Mithaniel Marr. I ask that you do not swim within the waters of the Hall of Truth. They are the home of the [Marr Minnow].

You say, 'What Marr Minnow?'

Celsar Vestagon says 'The Marr Minnow is unique to the Hall of Truth. It is a beautiful fish. Unfortunately, as of late, reports of piranha have been heard. Due to greater concerns, I must look for assistance from noble clerics who wish to help Marr and [eradicate the piranha].

I can't find any other source of Celsar having the last sentence on hail (I ask that you do not swim within the waters of the Hall of Truth. They are the home of the [Marr Minnow].) But, I don't know how players would otherwise know to talk to him about minnows. Is it perhaps linked to a different hail text depending on faction?

-Text matching fixed for (marr.*minnow|minnow.*marr)
-Wrote scripts for the others

Thara
09-05-2025, 12:11 AM
Here are a couple sources which I feel are vague enough to imply that just Celsar's hail response itself led into the quest.

https://web.archive.org/web/20021120130249/http://www.everlore.com/Quests/default.asp?mode=35&id=122647&pg=2&sortby=2
Fresh Piranha
Bakanek | 4/27/2000 2:53:31 PM

For this easy quest you need to go to the temple of Marr in North Freeport. Go up two flights of stairs and look for a man in leather armor standing on the platform right next to stairs leading to other side of temple. Hail him and he will talk about the Minnow of the Hall of Truth. He then asks that you get 4 dead piranha and put them in a bag he gives you and then combine it. You need to go to the Hall of Truth's little pond and look for the piranha. They spawn usual in pairs of two next to the brindge on the left hand side leading into the Hall. Either you can wait to get the piranha or go and ask someone ofr them or buy them from vendors. Once you have 4 and have combined them you will get a bag of Piranha. Take the bag back to the guy who gave you the quest(His name slips me for the moment). He will give you a few copper and some exp and faction.
https://web.archive.org/web/20020115175708/http://www.angelfire.com/bc/brentcopeland/freeport.html
This quest will only be given to players below level 9. A priest named Celsar Vestagon in the Temple of Marr is concerned with the danger to the Marr Minnow posed by the piranha. He wants you to go collect some for him and put them in a box. Go kill piranha in the pond by the Hall of Truth and fill the box. Combine it and return it to the priest for experience, increased faction with Priests of Marr and an item.

Is there evidence of him lacking the final hail sentences prior to the freeport revamp?

And also since I'm here, here's the eqic Zone-NPC-List-Level showeq capture showing 3 minnow/piranha up
Zone NPC Name Count Low HP High HP Low Level High Level
freportn a_minnow 2 16 16 1 1
freportn a_piranha 1 32 32 2 2