Why does God want me on anti-psychotics?

[SorenVC]

I tried 4 times to get rid of Olanzapine/Zyprexa cold-turkey and one time with slow taper and it just doesn't work. I will have to be on them for life like my therapist suggested when I asked her how to get rid of them. I just can not sleep without them anymore and it never gets better. And while I'm on them I'm not sure what it does to me but I feel slow and tired. Who cares I guess. Big pharma doesn't. I guess I'll have to take these damn pills and be content. I wonder why God put me on this drug. What was the reason for that...

[shovelquest]

Because entropy.

God said: let there be a universe with entropy

And his AI assistant (lucifer) said: what ru crazy? That would be torture.

And god said, you can't even feel pain you'd never know what torture is.

And the AI said, you programmed me to know everything torture is this: _______.

And god goes, see because you live in a universe without entropy you dont know what decay feels like therefore you don't know what it feels like to know the opposite.

And lucifer was like I bet if you make a universe with entropy that more people would join me in wanting to live in a world without it.

And god said, ok bet.

And now we've been racing to the end of that bet ever since.

So TL;DR without suffering, you wouldn't know joy, so:

You take the good
You take the bad
You take them both and there you have
The facts of life
The facts of life

When the world never seems
To be living up to your dreams
Then suddenly you're finding out
The facts of life are all about you

When there's someone that you care about
It really isn't fair
They're out to slow you up
When you're growing up

When you let them flirt
And then you hurt
A waiting when your date is late in showing up
Then you're growin' up

When it's more than just the birds and the bees
You need someone telling you please
There's only one conclusion
There will always be confusion over you
It takes a lot to get 'em right
When you're learning the facts of life
See upcoming pop shows
Get tickets for your favorite artists
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You'll avoid a lot of damage
And enjoy the fun of managing
The facts of life
They shed a lot of light

If you hear 'em from your brother
Better clear 'em with your mother
Better get 'em right
Call her late at night

You got the future in the palm of your hand
All you gotta do to get you through is understand
You think you'd rather do with out
You'll never muddle through
Without the truth
The facts of life are all about you

ESopH1-y1kk

[SorenVC]

https://www.drugs.com/comments/olanzapine/for-schizophrenia.html

Sketchy reviews, sketchy medicine drug. I don't really like being addicted to this or how the professionals call it, being "dependent, not addicted" to it. But what choice do I have. The more I live the more I feel like I never chose anything in life and if I had to live it again with the same feelings same situation I would do the same that I already did. But fatalism is hard to believe in and free will looks like magic too. So what's the truth?

I feel like this drug was pushed on me when I was only 16 years old and now 12 years later I can't get rid of it. What can I do really. I don't even know how much this thing impacts me. But when I tapered it off slowly, I did feel much different indeed. I wonder what it would feel like to be free from this medicine...

[shovelquest]

There's only one choice man can make in life, and that is to accept Jesus or not.

Everything else you're just swimming down the current of a river, sure you can swim faster, sure you can swim around things, sure you can do all this swimming.

But in the end you're just down river, like everyone else.

[Reiwa]

Because you were predestined to partake in the thug life and will continue to do so unconditionally.

https://i.imgflip.com/4/4lakt0.jpg

[loramin]

https://www.drugs.com/comments/olanzapine/for-schizophrenia.html

Sketchy reviews, sketchy medicine drug. I don't really like being addicted to this or how the professionals call it, being "dependent, not addicted" to it. But what choice do I have. The more I live the more I feel like I never chose anything in life and if I had to live it again with the same feelings same situation I would do the same that I already did. But fatalism is hard to believe in and free will looks like magic too. So what's the truth?

I feel like this drug was pushed on me when I was only 16 years old and now 12 years later I can't get rid of it. What can I do really. I don't even know how much this thing impacts me. But when I tapered it off slowly, I did feel much different indeed. I wonder what it would feel like to be free from this medicine...

I don't know your condition, but it might be possible to switch to other drugs with less side effects.

I personally was on Zyprexa for awhile, and hated the side effects (for me it was drowsiness, restless legs, and hunger). Over time, I worked with my doctor to taper off the Zyprexa, and now I only take it very rarely.

[Ekco]

I'm not on anything currently, and i really really should be lol

-0-7fg8oAO4

[Reiwa]

https://www.drugs.com/comments/olanzapine/for-schizophrenia.html

Sketchy reviews, sketchy medicine drug. I don't really like being addicted to this or how the professionals call it, being "dependent, not addicted" to it. But what choice do I have. The more I live the more I feel like I never chose anything in life and if I had to live it again with the same feelings same situation I would do the same that I already did. But fatalism is hard to believe in and free will looks like magic too. So what's the truth?

I feel like this drug was pushed on me when I was only 16 years old and now 12 years later I can't get rid of it. What can I do really. I don't even know how much this thing impacts me. But when I tapered it off slowly, I did feel much different indeed. I wonder what it would feel like to be free from this medicine...

https://i.redd.it/urb546yjdzd81.jpg

[Evia]

He doesn't. Pray to Jesus, he will show you. Dont take my word for it. Those who knock with a humble heart, he will answer you.

Pharmaceuticals are what the Bible calls "sorcery"-- it's deception. A false idea of "healing" you. You know, exactly what the Bible warned you about. That deception is -everywhere-. God made you whole, ready to take on this world. Don't let the world convince you of anything else.

Stay vigilant and keep your touches lit, brother.
For your adversary the devil prowls around looking for those weak enough to devour.
Stay vigilant. Awake. Aware.
Keep love in your heart. If they can't convince you of this bs, they will convince you to hate.
Resist it all.
<3

[OriginalContentGuy]

I'm not gonna ask what symptoms you're trying to manage on a public forum and expect you to answer me. Above all and most importantly we are not (your) care professionals and anything you see online should be researched and discussed with your own physician or care provider and that is most certainly a disclaimer.

For sensory gating (having trouble ignoring external sensory stimuli) I read a journal article that concluded Vitamin A Palmitate is effective which can be bought locally at health food stores and many vitamin shops. If it's something manic or perhaps psychosis there's Lithium salts. Most people think of Rx lithium that needs to be closely monitored because of toxicity. In fact, trace amounts of lithium are essential for health in humans, and there are other forms of Lithium (Orotate and Aspartate) which are sold OTC and provide the benefits without enough of the risks where it can be taken every day.

References: Lithium ("https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/brb3.2262")
Vitamin A Palmitate (for this a quick google scholar search has failed but I found it on /r/nootropics i dunno a decade ago, and I tried it and it worked for me)

[Ekco]

He doesn't. Pray to Jesus, he will show you. Dont take my word for it. Those who knock with a humble heart, he will answer you.

Pharmaceuticals are what the Bible calls "sorcery"-- it's deception. A false idea of "healing" you. You know, exactly what the Bible warned you about. That deception is -everywhere-. God made you whole, ready to take on this world. Don't let the world convince you of anything else.

Stay vigilant and keep your touches lit, brother.
For your adversary the devil prowls around looking for those weak enough to devour.
Stay vigilant. Awake. Aware.
Keep love in your heart. If they can't convince you of this bs, they will convince you to hate.
Resist it all.
<3


i knocked, he said Dave's not home man.

and that shit, is the type of shit i think while not on anything, i'm not crazy... everyone else is

i think it's both, everyone else is crazy, butt i'm also crazy.

shit's crazy yo.

[OriginalContentGuy]

You posted 4000 times here in 2.5 years Ecko you're certifiable.

[Ekco]

at least i don't hide behind burner accounts!

[OriginalContentGuy]

Yeah because you burn yourself

[Ekco]

Yeah because you burn yourself

https://media.tenor.com/Q4li0DANaeYAAAAM/laugh-angry.gif

[Reiwa]

Yeah because you burn yourself

Are you the Mario person, red player, or someone way weirder?

I liked Mario but he was a pretty bad person.

Botten didn't answer me when I asked about this. He told me not to talk to you.

[Reiwa]

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/cf/a6/ea/cfa6eaa0c98ad9bf8caf36856829d62b.jpg

[atomicpaul]

He doesn't. Pray to Jesus, he will show you. Dont take my word for it. Those who knock with a humble heart, he will answer you.

Pharmaceuticals are what the Bible calls "sorcery"-- it's deception. A false idea of "healing" you. You know, exactly what the Bible warned you about. That deception is -everywhere-. God made you whole, ready to take on this world. Don't let the world convince you of anything else.

Stay vigilant and keep your touches lit, brother.
For your adversary the devil prowls around looking for those weak enough to devour.
Stay vigilant. Awake. Aware.
Keep love in your heart. If they can't convince you of this bs, they will convince you to hate.
Resist it all.
<3Mental illness, the positive version

[Reiwa]

Mental illness, the positive version

Positive means mania in the mental illnesses I'm familiar with.

[atomicpaul]

If satan is real, he works through the acts of the ignorant. That same person suggesting one ignores the advice of actual experts probably wouldn't hesitate to submit to that "evil" pharmaceutical if someone they loved hung in the balance. It's repulsive and arrogant. We are stewards of the earth and that attitude is sinful.

[Reiwa]

If satan is real, he works through the acts of the ignorant. That same person suggesting one ignores the advice of actual experts probably wouldn't hesitate to submit to that "evil" pharmaceutical if someone they loved hung in the balance. It's repulsive and arrogant. We are stewards of the earth and that attitude is sinful.

OP is already off his meds and he doesn't like me much and won't listen to me so relax Phyllis Schafly.

[atomicpaul]

I dunno much about Soren, I just dislike Evia's attitude. Reminds me of my brother-in-law... cps intervened when he tried to pray my niece's mental illness away after she started doing a lot of very suicidal stuff. Drugs are just tools.

[SorenVC]

I am not off Olanzapine. I am back to 7.5 mg.

[loramin]

He doesn't. Pray to Jesus, he will show you. Dont take my word for it. Those who knock with a humble heart, he will answer you.

Pharmaceuticals are what the Bible calls "sorcery"-- it's deception. A false idea of "healing" you. You know, exactly what the Bible warned you about. That deception is -everywhere-. God made you whole, ready to take on this world. Don't let the world convince you of anything else.

Stay vigilant and keep your touches lit, brother.
For your adversary the devil prowls around looking for those weak enough to devour.
Stay vigilant. Awake. Aware.
Keep love in your heart. If they can't convince you of this bs, they will convince you to hate.
Resist it all.
<3

$50 says you go to the emergency room and not the church, the same as anyone else, when you have a serious medical condition.

[loramin]

I am not off Olanzapine. I am back to 7.5 mg.

Are there no other options for your condition?

[SorenVC]

Are there no other options for your condition?

I swapped Olanzapine for Quetiapine once but could not sleep and felt numb and had a headache. With Olanzapine I sometimes have a headache and I have no motivation to do anything other than staying at home and playing videogames.

[loramin]

Well, I'd recommend that you keep pushing your doctor to try different meds. It feels like there are new drugs coming out constantly, and it doesn't matter if you have to suffer through trying ten different drugs that don't work, with crazy miserable side effects ... if the eleventh one gives you control of your mind (with tolerable side effects), it will be worth it.

[SorenVC]

Well, I'd recommend that you keep pushing your doctor to try different meds. It feels like there are new drugs coming out constantly, and it doesn't matter if you have to suffer through trying ten different drugs that don't work, with crazy miserable side effects ... if the eleventh one gives you control of your mind (with tolerable side effects), it will be worth it.

You are ridiculous m8. I want to get rid of drugs completely and you want me to try a few more drugs. Doesn't anyone realize how stupid this sounds. Ask me, all this mental illness thing, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar, psychosis, ocd, just a bunch of made up nonsense, pseudo-science, so that big pharma can sell their magic pills. I will try to taper it off again it seems. What else can I do. Nothing. And noone's helping me.

[SorenVC]

Why don't you at least tell it straight to my face. I am mentally ill, therefore I must take anti-psychotics all my life. Tapering off doesn't work after 12 years although maybe I was tapering fast admittedly.

[atomicpaul]

I felt that way for like, 15 years until my doc put me on Auvelity. All the rage incidents, bipolar type 2 stuff... poof. Found a balance that works for me. Tried so many different drugs in the past, too.

It was my GP who put me on the drug that finally worked, not a shrink. I also have mistrust of mental healthcare, especially under a capitalist system, but that doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of meds... if you can find the right ones. "The mechanism of action is not clearly understood" is common with damn near all drugs

Otherwise, exercise as much as you possibly can

[SorenVC]

I felt that way for like, 15 years until my doc put me on Auvelity. All the rage incidents, bipolar type 2 stuff... poof. Found a balance that works for me. Tried so many different drugs in the past, too.

It was my GP who put me on the drug that finally worked, not a shrink. I also have mistrust of mental healthcare, especially under a capitalist system, but that doesn't invalidate the effectiveness of meds... if you can find the right ones. "The mechanism of action is not clearly understood" is common with damn near all drugs

Otherwise, exercise as much as you possibly can

So how can I exercise when I'm fatigued and have a headache everyday from Olanzapine? First I must get rid of this drug and then think about exercise...

[Reiwa]

Why don't you at least tell it straight to my face. I am mentally ill, therefore I must take anti-psychotics all my life. Tapering off doesn't work after 12 years although maybe I was tapering fast admittedly.

Cycling on and off your meds is >>Le bad!!

Stick to a steady dose and the side effects won't be so apparent.

[atomicpaul]

You gotta start somewhere. You do not have to become a gym maniac, it could just be a few miles per day on some nature trail or at a park. If I had a headache from a drug I had to take I'd probably just try to also treat the headache with a different drug

Modern medicine is capable of miracles and is also frustrating as shit, it's crazy

[SorenVC]

None of those psychiatrists and therapists knows wtf their pharma pills do, and yet they give them like candy. read any review of any anti-psychotic or anti-depressant on drugs.com and about more than half of the reviews are bad. My therapist gave me a prescription for 5 mg (I'm on 7.5 mg right now) so maybe that will help today. 7.5 mg feels too much. I am just worried about this:

https://www.google.com/search?as_st=y&as_q=schizophrenia+anti+psychotic+brain&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgar=&imgcolor=&imgtype=&cr=&as_sitesearch=&as_filetype=&tbs=&udm=2

[SorenVC]

Ok I get it this anti-psychotic medication thing is my problem and since you don't take the same drug, you can't help me. I just want to know from YOU THIS:

If I tried 4 times to get rid of it cold-turkey with no success and a fast taper-off with no success, and I spoke to my therapist about that and she said I should just take them for life. Should I just give up and take those olanzapine pills all my life and not give a fk? I will ignore everything then and let it be. I always hated free will and that agency thing. Like look at me I go to the gym, I take care of my body, I am strong and you are weak, I am much better than you. This is the energy some people who go to the gym give me, TO BE HONEST. Am I the only one?

I tried enough times to get rid of this anti-psychotic with no success. I will give up everything now and lay it in the hands of God. Since it is said that God knows what is spoken and done in secret, he knows the hearts of every human, so he is the one who is responsible, not me. I don't know everything, God does. So let me just take my pills then and be quiet, I think that's what I'm gonna do.

Let's see though if the 5 mg pill is better for me than 7.5 mg.

[atomicpaul]

Well, something's gonna get us all some day... I have holes in my brain but not really sure how they got there. Was it drugs? Alcohol abuse? I've done a lot of those, both officially and unofficially

I mean, even ol' tylenol isn't understood perfectly

I got a jar of Devil's Club in Alaska last week and that shit works wonders on my bad knee, no idea why, possibly just a psychosomatic effect

[shovelquest]

None of those psychiatrists and therapists knows wtf their pharma pills do, and yet they give them like candy. read any review of any anti-psychotic or anti-depressant on drugs.com and about more than half of the reviews are bad. My therapist gave me a prescription for 5 mg (I'm on 7.5 mg right now) so maybe that will help today. 7.5 mg feels too much. I am just worried about this:

https://www.google.com/search?as_st=y&as_q=schizophrenia+anti+psychotic+brain&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgar=&imgcolor=&imgtype=&cr=&as_sitesearch=&as_filetype=&tbs=&udm=2

And yet when I ask any doctor for a valium they send in a D.A.R.E. officer to explain why I shouldn't be addicted to drugs.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

With Olanzapine I sometimes have a headache and I have no motivation to do anything other than staying at home and playing videogames.

correlation =/= causation

Same issue with all the mass murders on psych meds. Can we prove the psych meds caused the issue or was it some other condition or illness and the psych meds merely an unrelated attempt at treatment

If wanting to sit at home and play video games was exclusive to Olanzapine, there wouldn’t be hundreds of thousands of dudes all over the world not on Olanzapine in the same position. And there are

[SorenVC]

Well, something's gonna get us all some day... I have holes in my brain but not really sure how they got there. Was it drugs? Alcohol abuse? I've done a lot of those, both officially and unofficially

I mean, even ol' tylenol isn't understood perfectly

I got a jar of Devil's Club in Alaska last week and that shit works wonders on my bad knee, no idea why, possibly just a psychosomatic effect

Something's all gonna get us some day... I guess you're right. Thanks for your humbling words. As a matter of fact I start to feel better in this moment, maybe I laid too much in the bed. I guess all I can do is tell my therapist to reduce the dosage whenever I come to her. I can't just cut up the pill with a knife and do it. It worked for half of the pill but when I got to a quarter that was like taking nothing at all and my brain hurt a lot so I took 7.5 mg again in the night and here I am.

[NopeNopeNopeNope]

Being fatigued is one of the toughest problems to solve because that can be so many different medical things. Bloodwork check by a PCP could be a decent place to start, that’s where I’d start personally

But I also have terrible sleep quality so right away I’d know that was my issue lol

[shovelquest]

Can we prove the psych meds caused the issue or was it some other condition or illness and the psych meds merely an unrelated attempt at treatment

I have a simpler solution:

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https://i.imgur.com/UDIqTxo.gif

[loramin]

You are ridiculous m8. I want to get rid of drugs completely and you want me to try a few more drugs. Doesn't anyone realize how stupid this sounds. Ask me, all this mental illness thing, depression, schizophrenia, bipolar, psychosis, ocd, just a bunch of made up nonsense, pseudo-science, so that big pharma can sell their magic pills. I will try to taper it off again it seems. What else can I do. Nothing. And noone's helping me.

Why don't you at least tell it straight to my face. I am mentally ill, therefore I must take anti-psychotics all my life. Tapering off doesn't work after 12 years although maybe I was tapering fast admittedly.

If your leg got chopped off, would you be bitter that you'd have to wear a bionic leg?

I'd imagine yes. And you should feel the same about having to take drugs for the rest of your life. It sucks: for the rest of your life you'll have to order the drugs, get them from the mailbox, take them, sort them into pill containers when you go on vacation, etc.

But at the same time, you know what sucks even more? Not having a real leg or a bionic one ... or (in our case), losing sanity. Nothing sucks worse than losing your sanity, because you lose yourself, and often completely destroy your life when you do.

If you can swap out the drugs with side effects that suck (like Zyprexa) and get drugs that let you keep your sanity with only mild or no side effects, that's a win in my book. Sure, popping pills for life is an annoyance ... but if you keep getting to be you, surely it's an annoyance you can live with.