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Dundrige
07-23-2025, 09:04 PM
What's BIS for Paladin?

I don't think it's Brain of Cazic Thule - low AC and -25 CHA... you really going to unequip brain & equip the +30CHA helm when you are pacing a room? Too much...

Please discuss. And follow the paladin code of keeping it civil, please.

Zuranthium
07-23-2025, 09:09 PM
What's BIS for Paladin?

Being level 22 and wielding a Ghoulbane during 1999 era.

Duik
07-23-2025, 09:41 PM
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Slot: RANGE
STA: +5 HP: +50
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DeathsSilkyMist
07-23-2025, 10:22 PM
Cazic Brain is probably BiS, as Flowing Thought I is harder to come by for Knights.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Essence_Lens is also a really good option. +5 All Res is worth losing 25 HP/Mana compared to Brain. You'll be capped on STR/STA, so those stats don't matter too much on Brain. You'll mainly be losing out on the 10 WIS and Flowing Thought I from Brain.

Your four options for Flowing Thought I are:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Brain_of_Cazic_Thule (-25 CHA)

https://wiki.project1999.com/Eye_of_Cazic_Thule (-25 CHA)

https://wiki.project1999.com/Buckler_of_Insight

https://wiki.project1999.com/Runed_Coldain_Prayer_Shawl

Both Cazic pieces have -25 CHA. Coldain Prayer Shawl is weaker stat-wise compared to other raid options. Buckler of insight cannot be equipped while you are using two handed weapons.

This is why Brain generally ends up being the best choice for Flowing Thought I. AC is generally lower for Range Slot items anyway. The -CHA part is annoying for lulls, I do agree.

kjs86z2
07-24-2025, 08:58 AM
Its Brain. BiS pallies don't care about lulls. In your journey to full BiS I'm sure you can grab a Nev's Left or some shit if the -CHA bothers you when doing lull stuff (or, yknow, just unequip it).

Swish
07-25-2025, 11:22 PM
Any lull class other than an enchanter/bard carries around a bag of CHA goodies for the occasion, don't they?

Snaggles
07-25-2025, 11:46 PM
100% brain. You could swap out CHA gear but if you have gear of this quality just blame the cleric/ench spotting you and bring the heat.

Duik
07-26-2025, 12:20 AM
Bring the heat.

Inc 17 a Mob.

PatChapp
07-26-2025, 08:14 AM
Another good option is the essence range. Good ac and resists,but brain is 100% bis

Ripqozko
07-26-2025, 09:51 AM
the good vyemm eye prob 2nd bis but its still brain

Ennewi
07-26-2025, 08:17 PM
The proc from luminary 2H sword offsets the -cha on brain and then some, with a long duration on top of that.

Naethyn
07-28-2025, 11:58 AM
Pal can quad kite with woushi bow.

CrazyPro
08-01-2025, 07:57 PM
BIS range slot item for paladin is CT brain by far
just unequip it for lulls

greatdane
08-23-2025, 01:50 AM
There's an argument for Orb of the Deep Sea. Not universally BIS in all situations, but if you're doing something where there's no real risk of dying and/or you're not being CHed (say, an easy grind session with a non-cleric healer), maximum AC is the most efficient thing you can have. The FT from CT brain is nice if you don't have an enchanter or bard in the group, but if you do, it's pretty negligible. There are situations and group setups where 45 AC is better.

You can also get the orb for low dkp while the brain will cost you a year's worth.