View Full Version : Is warrior aggro greatly exaggerated?
Nitestroke
08-20-2025, 02:22 PM
Three people (with a tank) makes a situation less difficult than two people. Assuming you find a Docks camp difficult. Great protip.
Also had to say, sounds like u been eating alot of sandwiches since u been on p99 lmao u made my day snaggles thank you
Snaggles
08-20-2025, 04:49 PM
Also had to say, sounds like u been eating alot of sandwiches since u been on p99 lmao u made my day snaggles thank you
It was sarcasm bro im on your side here lol
Nitestroke
08-20-2025, 05:00 PM
It was sarcasm bro im on your side here lol
Your newb ass will never be on my side. Go wipe in ur newb group so u can make sandwiches. Lmfao haha
Snaggles
08-20-2025, 05:01 PM
Cool fake quote. Glad you figured that out. It’s not difficult like getting Sky loot.
Nitestroke
08-20-2025, 05:14 PM
Cool fake quote. Glad you figured that out. It’s not difficult like getting Sky loot.
Bro, u are the most delusional repugnant scrub I've come across on this forum. That spiroc was for a friend, and even if I bought it for me, what tf is the issue? Ur grasping at straws after thoroughly being exposed as a clueless newb. Cope harder lmao there's nothing u can say that will wash away your unforgivable blunders here. Quit while ur behind scrubbing go root something and die and make another sandwich hahaha
Nitestroke
08-20-2025, 05:28 PM
Cool fake quote. Glad you figured that out. It’s not difficult like getting Sky loot.
Figured what out? Are u capable of making sense one time? I'd love to see ur progress (or lack thereof) in game man u probably still farming bone chips with ur insights and iq. Poor guy. @everyone don't group with snaggles hes always hungry which means lots of wipes lolol
Goregasmic
08-20-2025, 05:45 PM
Holy shit, we had it good with DSM and we didn't realize it.
Nitestroke
08-20-2025, 05:50 PM
Holy shit, we had it good with DSM and we didn't realize it.
Cry
Lampolo
08-20-2025, 06:18 PM
Not knowing tanks work well with ench/clr is bonkers for an experienced player. You guys are nuts. Please stop
Snaggles
08-20-2025, 10:45 PM
Not knowing tanks work well with ench/clr is bonkers for an experienced player. You guys are nuts. Please stop
Of course they work. Charm, slow, CH, tank. Pretty common sense. It’s just there are much better combinations.
If I was looking to be the third player with that duo there is no way I’m bringing a melee. A mage isn’t a very strong third but you get another pet tank, DS, burst dps, and malosini (and mala at 60). Most enchanters are all about -60MR on their pet and an irresistible -35 for stuff they want to slow quick. Again…and that isn’t even a very strong third class.
PatChapp
08-21-2025, 07:26 AM
Yeah I always liked having a mage around,surprisingly strong 3rd. Doesn't compare to a 2nd enc or necro,but it makes it really safe. Easy to hit -100mr with pet gear, charms last forever.
The enc in that video was terrible in the hole. You drop your pet and charm the named immediately. Rocksoul is the best,but stonesoul has like 10k hp. Bruiser
Goregasmic
08-21-2025, 07:38 AM
Not knowing tanks work well with ench/clr is bonkers for an experienced player. You guys are nuts. Please stop
I don't think anyone said this? Having a PC tanking for an ench rogue pet in non-trivial content is a solid setup.
The argument was is warrior the best third man and the answer is "it depends". Warrior has good niche perks that are not always necessary and could be traded for a class with more desirable perks depending on the situation and player preference.
Nitestroke
08-21-2025, 12:46 PM
I don't think anyone said this? Having a PC tanking for an ench rogue pet in non-trivial content is a solid setup.
The argument was is warrior the best third man and the answer is "it depends". Warrior has good niche perks that are not always necessary and could be traded for a class with more desirable perks depending on the situation and player preference.
Yeah but snaggles imparted his wisdom that if u run 2 ench and cleric is way better because although you will die more, you can just wipe and go make sandwiches to be efficient. Hard to argue that logic
Goregasmic
08-21-2025, 01:31 PM
Yeah but snaggles imparted his wisdom that if u run 2 ench and cleric is way better because although you will die more, you can just wipe and go make sandwiches to be efficient. Hard to argue that logic
This all hangs on what kind of sandwich it is.
Jimjam
08-21-2025, 03:05 PM
I bet snaggles makes a good sub. Rangers are like the second tier of chef after halfling.
Zuranthium
08-21-2025, 03:23 PM
Yeah but snaggles imparted his wisdom that if u run 2 ench and cleric is way better because although you will die more, you can just wipe and go make sandwiches to be efficient.
You kill far more with 2 enchanters and shouldn't be dying much.
Snaggles
08-21-2025, 04:52 PM
You kill far more with 2 enchanters and shouldn't be dying much.
100%. Two Ench’s in close proximity to the cleric. It’s far faster kills and safer.
Only drawback is extra mana spent by the cleric but plenty of time to med when waiting for respawns.
PS: Sandwiches? A good BLTA is hard to beat outside a Cuban sandwich. Thanks to The Beef I want to go to Chicago.
Ennewi
08-21-2025, 05:11 PM
This all hangs on what kind of sandwich it is.
Clear winner would include foul smelling herbs, since it will last longer after next patch.
Lampolo
08-21-2025, 06:33 PM
Enc, enc, clr is a glass canon and no puller. Not ideal for xp. Your kill rate would stink compared to having a tank/puller. Seems like snaggles, gore and zarumtum never actually trio. Just wiki theory crafting while they solo guards for xp.
Goregasmic
08-21-2025, 08:02 PM
Enc, enc, clr is a glass canon and no puller. Not ideal for xp. Your kill rate would stink compared to having a tank/puller. Seems like snaggles, gore and zarumtum never actually trio. Just wiki theory crafting while they solo guards for xp.
Not sure why you always go back to EnCh CaN't PuLL. Ench/cleric is probably the strongest duo, it isn't like if you add a third wheel then they forget how they were pulling as a duo. In undead areas ench/necro is also considered up there for viable duos for mostly the same reasons why double ench destroys.
If you add an other ench you get back up stun/mez on pet break, you still have a pet tank on target and stuff dies the fastest, which offsets the time savings of having a dedicated puller to some degree, ASSUMING you have unlimited spawns and no other limitation. It is different but it works. Basically everyone but nitestroker has been telling you so but I guess we're all dumb.
Ripqozko
08-21-2025, 08:22 PM
lampolo the new dsm, yall wild in 2025.
Lampolo
08-21-2025, 08:25 PM
Not sure why you always go back to EnCh CaN't PuLL. Ench/cleric is probably the strongest duo, it isn't like if you add a third wheel then they forget how they were pulling as a duo. In undead areas ench/necro is also considered up there for viable duos for mostly the same reasons why double ench destroys.
If you add an other ench you get back up stun/mez on pet break, you still have a pet tank on target and stuff dies the fastest, which offsets the time savings of having a dedicated puller to some degree, ASSUMING you have unlimited spawns and no other limitation. It is different but it works. Basically everyone but nitestroker has been telling you so but I guess we're all dumb.
I dont expect you to openly admit your full of shit but at least acknowledge to your self that you dont trio and your a solo xp or pug type of chanter.
Lampolo
08-21-2025, 08:26 PM
lampolo the new dsm, yall wild in 2025.
What ever you say warmbody
Goregasmic
08-21-2025, 08:27 PM
I dont expect you to openly admit your full of shit but at least acknowledge to your self that you dont trio and your a solo xp or pug type of chanter.
Nice strawman bro.
Lampolo
08-21-2025, 08:28 PM
Nice strawman bro.
Hows that a stawman?
Nitestroke
08-21-2025, 08:37 PM
Not sure why you always go back to EnCh CaN't PuLL. Ench/cleric is probably the strongest duo, it isn't like if you add a third wheel then they forget how they were pulling as a duo. In undead areas ench/necro is also considered up there for viable duos for mostly the same reasons why double ench destroys.
If you add an other ench you get back up stun/mez on pet break, you still have a pet tank on target and stuff dies the fastest, which offsets the time savings of having a dedicated puller to some degree, ASSUMING you have unlimited spawns and no other limitation. It is different but it works. Basically everyone but nitestroker has been telling you so but I guess we're all dumb.
Your brain must be absolutely shot. Keep acting like ench ench cleric is better. Act like rng doesn't exist. Act like pacy cant crit resist, Act like its not a matter of time before double pet breaks or pet breaks during pull. You would kill fast when you are fighting, but you would be medding from bad rng/mishaps way more. Act like there isnt a million scenarios that ench ench cleric wouldn't eat shit from. Also god help you if rootmaster snaggles is one of the enchanters, you would be better off with a druid.
Gore and snaggles have both done nothing but wreck themselves over and over again. Im guessing gore loves his sandwiches too. There is no insight to be found in their posts, only shame and self-wrecking.
Keep gaslighting that noone agrees with me. From what I see its just u and sandwich eating snaggles that are trying to cope together. You guys are guaranteed low level newbs. Its impossible to take the stance you idiots take, and be competent in game and skilled players for sure see it. It's typical for really dumb ppl to automatically assume everyone is dumb as them but its not the case sadly for u both. That zemilath scrub too actually belongs here.
You clowns need to have the last word so go for it, to mend your garbage egos, have the last word, you warrant no further replies. A total waste of time is what you offer. Have fun in kc.
Nitestroke
08-21-2025, 08:38 PM
Hows that a stawman?
He doesn't even know things, don't expect him to use words properly lamp
Nitestroke
08-21-2025, 08:47 PM
lampolo the new dsm, yall wild in 2025.
Hes not into bdsm find another. Probably snaggles and gore for that.
You're welcome
Snaggles
08-21-2025, 09:59 PM
Enc, enc, clr is a glass canon and no puller. Not ideal for xp. Your kill rate would stink compared to having a tank/puller. Seems like snaggles, gore and zarumtum never actually trio. Just wiki theory crafting while they solo guards for xp.
Glass cannons with two 10k hp pets doing 200dps and lazily doing 7k CH’s.
Yea it’s a rough life, lol. Time to find some better enchanter friends. We had all of lower dogs and spiders dead and were waiting on repops…
Snaggles
08-21-2025, 10:15 PM
I don’t get the whole “you probably don’t even play EQ” angle. That is some childish stuff. Most of us have been here for a long time, we have a lot of characters, we sadly have spent a lot of time doing stuff.
It’s ok to have different experiences and opinions. Most of my old opinions from Live have been turned upside down. Tanking raid mobs with knights and ranger bumping AoW is some weird stuff. Quad DA mages, killing Tunare in 45 minutes. It’s a crazy world. That doesn’t invalidate your opinions or ours. It’s just a different game with 20 years of fixating over the little stuff.
And yea, I love warriors. I have one. I’ve sacced him once already and he’s 57 again. Not a hater. It’s a great class.
Lampolo
08-21-2025, 11:10 PM
I never said your don't play eq. I said you don't trio much cause its obvious
Lampolo
08-21-2025, 11:24 PM
Can u at least admit that most of the xp for your 9 lvl 60's was obtained soloing and you have very little xp farming or lvling in trios?
Lampolo
08-21-2025, 11:44 PM
I've had a lot of 60s as well. Most of their xp had in trios and duos. I've had 250kpp nights with the strats I've illustrated in this thread. Can you say the same? This is kinda sad from a RL perspective but I'm a bit of a specialist in the trio department and I can tell for sure your not
PatChapp
08-22-2025, 07:31 AM
I don't think you understand how a enc/enc/cleric trio really works,but thats okay.
You crawl around. If you dont crawl around in that trio you run out of mobs because the kill rate is obscene.
I have a leveled both an enc and a cleric this way,obviously not the only way but its fun and very fast xp.
Good for clearing easy zones like sebilis and velks as well.
Jimjam
08-22-2025, 08:16 AM
I don't think you understand how a enc/enc/cleric trio really works,but thats okay.
You crawl around. If you dont crawl around in that trio you run out of mobs because the kill rate is obscene.
I have a leveled both an enc and a cleric this way,obviously not the only way but its fun and very fast xp.
Good for clearing easy zones like sebilis and velks as well.
I also feel the argument that enc can’t pull because it has too much to do falls apart for e e c groups as the second enc and cleric can pick up the slack of the pulling enc while it does it’s thing.
zelld52
08-22-2025, 08:52 AM
If the warrior doesn't have good gear - their burst damage potential will be low. Low burst damage potential = low aggro.
Here's something that p99 players don't do that players in 99-2001 did do.
Wait before you debuff, start backstabbing, etc.
As a rogue main on Live from 2000-2002, that was the marching order. Wait for the tank to build aggro through white damage (typically wait until mob is 95-98% HP) before you start auto attacking. It was standard procedure in groups.
Same goes with debuffs. If you cast a slow while the mob is at 99% HP, you're going to pull more threat than the warrior can make up for in a short time.
Having played a warrior recently in groups, going from 1-50 - I have never had a problem with aggro. Granted, I'm using a Swiftblade of Zek in mainhand - but it's enough white damage to generate enough to out-threat the shaman.
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