Tunnel Gear - Warrior Weapons

[zelld52]

First time being serious about a warrior means I'm thinking about aggro weapons; should I be lucky enough to find groups while levelling. I currently have Swiftblade of Zek, Frostbringer and Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine.

My intuition tells me that the Swiftblade + Frostbringer will be my best bet while levelling 30-50s. The 11 damage and fast delay of Swiftblade will generate me white damage threat, and the Frostbringer proc is nice bonus for offhand threat. (Once level 40, that is)

When I start to approach 50s, will it be better to switch Swiftblade out for WESS for that mega-threat from the long-duration blind? I imagine I'll need more than Swiftblade white damage threat when there's epic rogues backstabbing.

Or, should I just stick with the Swiftblade through until I get a leet DKP weapon like Trident or something, once the warrior is in its 50s+?

[Naethyn]

Get the best haste item you can afford and then you can use whatever weapon you want.

[Keebz]

Did they unnerf WESS? Last I checked it was terrible. Swiftblade x frosty is fine. Personally I'd just use the root shovel and reaver. If you raid on another char, get dain axe.

[Solist]

Buy dps.

Dps holds aggro.

Reaver, exquisite, rotting frostreaver or KT axe.

Get proc weapons at 60, in a raid. No one cares if you can hold aggro off a twink monk with a tstaff who tanks better than you anyway.

[Jimjam]

Buy dps.

Dps holds aggro.

Reaver, exquisite, rotting frostreaver or KT axe.

Get proc weapons at 60, in a raid. No one cares if you can hold aggro off a twink monk with a tstaff who tanks better than you anyway.

Also the more dps you have the less time spent not tanking the mob cos mob is dead earlier :)

[zelld52]

Did they unnerf WESS? Last I checked it was terrible. Swiftblade x frosty is fine. Personally I'd just use the root shovel and reaver. If you raid on another char, get dain axe.

hmm i woulda thought the threat would be great because its a 1.7 minute duration blind - so even if it gets resisted thats alot of threat. havent field tested it yet

[Crede]

hmm i woulda thought the threat would be great because its a 1.7 minute duration blind - so even if it gets resisted thats alot of threat. havent field tested it yet

Infestation/wess aggro was nerfed a few years ago. Nobody uses these weapons anymore.

2h is king. Just grab a reaver or try to get kt axe / frost reaver for minimal dkp if you have access to it as others have mentioned. 2h is also a nice easy swap with truncheon once you start using that.

[kjs86z2]

thread title is "tunnel gear" not raid gear

but yeah...frostreaver and you're good to go til you start dropping DKP bombs on BiS shit

nobody cares about aggro if you're in a standard pug leveling group...and duo/trio non issue w/ er'body on the same page...DPS is king

[PatChapp]

Just use the biggest/best 2h you can afford. Reaver is great as is herby Spade.
Grats now your 50+
If your an ogre,keep the swiftblade. Works fine as an offhand for raid tanking,with a willsapper/trident/red blade main hand
If superior non ogre,it's still worth holding onto for ramping

[zelld52]

thanks for the tips, i thought WESS was still good aggro - the DPS sucks but i remember warriors using it after the DoT aggro nerf.

and no Frostreaver for me because im an elf. i weighed the decision of fashion vs. easy to acquire 2hs and went with fashion.

[kjs86z2]

herb spade it is then

[Allishia]

herb spade it is then

Probably the best for agro while leveling too, just hug the mob when it's rooted =P

[Botten]

herb spade it is then

This is a great weapon.



Even great for soloing.

2xEmbalmers Skinning Knife

Cobalt Breastplate

Truncheon of Doom

2xBloodpoints

[kjs86z2]

I never bothered w/ bloodpoints but thats prob b/c I had a Twisted Steel Bastard Sword at level 46.

[Jimjam]

This is a great weapon.



Even great for soloing.

2xEmbalmers Skinning Knife

Cobalt Breastplate

Truncheon of Doom

2xBloodpoints

Honestly, not sure anything but bandages daggers and spade is worth it. Trunch ratio lengthens the fight by the same amount it ends up lowering dps. I like proccing roon vs fleeing mobs tho. Of course spade means fewer fleeers.

[zelld52]

Honestly, not sure anything but bandages daggers and spade is worth it. Trunch ratio lengthens the fight by the same amount it ends up lowering dps. I like proccing roon vs fleeing mobs tho. Of course spade means fewer fleeers.

used a spade on my monk for levelling after i foolishly sold my T Staff to fund a twink.

it works really well when you can root the mob, back up and bandage yourself mid fight. its just so damn slow=(

[Naethyn]

At 50 I was able to do a bunch of solo with blood points, snare wep, and trunch. Started out by getting the mob snared. Then jousting a trunch until it was slow. Then blood points to stay at a good hp. This was all pre spade though.

[Solist]

Counter point:
Buy some ES legs and donals arms.
/who all druid/cle within 5 levels of you above 45.

Get click legs/arms on you forever while you melee the highest dark blues you can sustain on. Get them back at end of session.

Win. Probably a better investment than any one single item on the warrior could ever be.

[Duik]

Counter counter point:
Find 2 specific classes in a specific lvl range that wanna mindlessly click items. On an empty(ish) server.

[Solist]

Counter counter counter point:
Play an MMORPG exclusively solo, and don't make efforts to play with others that extend beyind what is probably expected.

[zelld52]

Counter counter counter point:
Play an MMORPG exclusively solo, and don't make efforts to play with others that extend beyind what is probably expected.

Huge jump between grouping with others and giving players items and telling them to be your pocket healer. Lot of ground you didn't cover on that logical leap there.

[Goregasmic]

From the other threads like this before, best EC option is the spade. Truncheon relatively distant second. Reaver is probably alright too.

1handers you'd have to calculate hate per minute, proc per minute depending on dex and proc hate. The first 2 are easy but we have no verified numbers for proc hate.

From what I understand Wess and infestation had massive aggro due to having a lot of poison counters but I think all procs got capped at 400 hate. This means wess/infestation probably still proc max hate but it possibly doesn't compensate for inferior ratio anymore, especially for WESS. So better weapons with lesser procs might have overtaken them on the hate charts.

Never seen anyone post any tangible results for this post nerf though. Even less so for EC options. It is very possible something like a SBOZ generates more hate from white damage than a frostbringer.

[PatChapp]

From the other threads like this before, best EC option is the spade. Truncheon relatively distant second. Reaver is probably alright too.

1handers you'd have to calculate hate per minute, proc per minute depending on dex and proc hate. The first 2 are easy but we have no verified numbers for proc hate.

From what I understand Wess and infestation had massive aggro due to having a lot of poison counters but I think all procs got capped at 400 hate. This means wess/infestation probably still proc max hate but it possibly doesn't compensate for inferior ratio anymore, especially for WESS. So better weapons with lesser procs might have overtaken them on the hate charts.

Never seen anyone post any tangible results for this post nerf though. Even less so for EC options. It is very possible something like a SBOZ generates more hate from white damage than a frostbringer.
Infestation proc doesn't add any hate beyond the minimal dmg,as it isn't a debuff, It use useless for warriors now.
Not sure on wess but should be 400hate proc

[Goregasmic]

Infestation proc doesn't add any hate beyond the minimal dmg,as it isn't a debuff, It use useless for warriors now.
Not sure on wess but should be 400hate proc

It isn't a debuff but it is still 3 poison counters and I thought poison counters gave a lot of hate?

Did they change how hate works or just the cap?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

It isn't a debuff but it is still 3 poison counters and I thought poison counters gave a lot of hate?

Did they change how hate works or just the cap?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412540&highlight=Hate

This was the big hate adjustment patch, which dropped at the end of 2022.

While it doesn't talk about poison counters directly, I remember discussions about poison/disease counters being nerfed/bugged hate-wise. People are saying they don't generate hate. I haven't tested it personally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3643387

[PatChapp]

They do not generate hate

[PatChapp]

We out feverblades and the vp poison weapons on rogue bots for a decent free offhand now, they do nothing for hate

[WarpathEQ]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412540&highlight=Hate

This was the big hate adjustment patch, which dropped at the end of 2022.

While it doesn't talk about poison counters directly, I remember discussions about poison/disease counters being nerfed/bugged hate-wise. People are saying they don't generate hate. I haven't tested it personally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3643387

Long.Liam seems to have it right in that second link. That aligns with my understanding and experience of how procs and hate amounts work.

I don't think that poison and disease is bugged just that counters themselves don't add hate. My assumption is that it just goes off the white damage as the hate amount for poison and disease spells/procs/DoTs. Which was likely to balance agro for classes that use big damage poison and disease DoTs (i.e. Shaman).

WESS is a bit unique in that its proc contains poison counters but not really tied to any other outcome, the proc is basically the same exact thing as the bio orb effect, but with some extra poison counters. Any easy test would be compare the hate of the WESS proc to a bio orb click. I bet the hate amount is 100% the same.

Really that means the issue with the WESS isn't a low hate proc, its still an very high hate proc, just has a shitty ratio/high delay compare to other weapons with relatively strong hate procs leading to overall less hate and DPS leading to this item falling out of favor with the tank community.

[Goregasmic]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412540&highlight=Hate

This was the big hate adjustment patch, which dropped at the end of 2022.

While it doesn't talk about poison counters directly, I remember discussions about poison/disease counters being nerfed/bugged hate-wise. People are saying they don't generate hate. I haven't tested it personally.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3643387

Yeah I read that, both the patch and the supposedly buggy poison/disease counters. Nothing super informative in the end. Seems like we'll never know until someone tests it out and that seems like a painstaking process.

WESS is a bit unique in that its proc contains poison counters but not really tied to any other outcome, the proc is basically the same exact thing as the bio orb effect, but with some extra poison counters. Any easy test would be compare the hate of the WESS proc to a bio orb click. I bet the hate amount is 100% the same.

Maybe im dumb but it seems hard to isolate a proc value from swing hate noise. You'd have to account for hate done in real time or be lucky and proc on the first swing.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I don't think that poison and disease is bugged just that counters themselves don't add hate.

Poison/disease counters did generate hate on P99 before. That is why Infestation was a highly sought after Warrior weapon for years. You may not have seen that since you joined in 2023. After the 2022 patch I linked previously, people stopped using weapons that relied on poison/disease counters like Infestation. Raid Warriors usually have a good understanding/feel for their weapon hate. So I believe people when they say poison/disease counter hate changed. I just haven't tested it myself.

[WarpathEQ]

Poison/disease counters did generate hate on P99 before. That is why Infestation was a highly sought after Warrior weapon for years. You may not have seen that since you joined in 2023. After the 2022 patch I linked previously, people stopped using weapons that relied on poison/disease counters like Infestation. Raid Warriors usually have a good understanding/feel for their weapon hate. So I believe people when they say poison/disease counter hate changed. I just haven't tested it myself.

Agreed. Not refuting that it changed, fully aware that these items like WESS and Infestation were go to top tier agro weapons a few years back.

More so that the change is working as intended and that the counters producing hate in the past was likely a bug not a feature.

Just thinking through playing on a shaman for example, if the counters added additional hate it would make it incredibly rare for a shaman to ever not have agro on a mob (certainly in a solo or group situation, but even in raids we often see shaman deaths as it is today without hate from the counters).

[WarpathEQ]

Yeah I read that, both the patch and the supposedly buggy poison/disease counters. Nothing super informative in the end. Seems like we'll never know until someone tests it out and that seems like a painstaking process.



Maybe im dumb but it seems hard to isolate a proc value from swing hate noise. You'd have to account for hate done in real time or be lucky and proc on the first swing.

Wouldn't be that hard, swing damage you can just add up any damage done on swings, add it to the theoretical hate amount generated via a proc and get a total hate figure.

For example if we assume both the WESS proc and Bio Orb click generate 800 agro each then you could click the bio orb twice, proc the WESS once and then you should see mob agro flip from the orb clicker to the WESS proc'r once the swing damage crosses 800. Could swap off the proc weapon after getting the desired proc to avoid the chance of accidental additional procs.

Just one way you can do it. A variety of testing methods could be used, all you need is 1 known variable and you can solve for the rest.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Agreed. Not refuting that it changed, fully aware that these items like WESS and Infestation were go to top tier agro weapons a few years back.

More so that the change is working as intended and that the counters producing hate in the past was likely a bug not a feature.

Just thinking through playing on a shaman for example, if the counters added additional hate it would make it incredibly rare for a shaman to ever not have agro on a mob (certainly in a solo or group situation, but even in raids we often see shaman deaths as it is today without hate from the counters).

Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification!

Yes, disease/poison counters were an issue for Shamans.

https://youtu.be/umuVBewCNgY?feature=shared

This is a video I made in 2020 showing how to have your pet tank a Cliff Golem. I used Epic and JBB to do most of the work rather than relying on Disease/Poison spells due to the hate generation from those spells.

Wouldn't be that hard, swing damage you can just add up any damage done on swings, add it to the theoretical hate amount generated via a proc and get a total hate figure.

For example if we assume both the WESS proc and Bio Orb click generate 800 agro each then you could click the bio orb twice, proc the WESS once and then you should see mob agro flip from the orb clicker to the WESS proc'r once the swing damage crosses 800. Could swap off the proc weapon after getting the desired proc to avoid the chance of accidental additional procs.

Just one way you can do it. A variety of testing methods could be used, all you need is 1 known variable and you can solve for the rest.

Yeah testing hate shouldn't be difficult. You can do it with a pet class or with two players. Just need to be precise when it comes to counting swings/procs/spell casts.

[Samoht]

Wouldn't be that hard, swing damage you can just add up any damage done on swings, add it to the theoretical hate amount generated via a proc and get a total hate figure.

For example if we assume both the WESS proc and Bio Orb click generate 800 agro each then you could click the bio orb twice, proc the WESS once and then you should see mob agro flip from the orb clicker to the WESS proc'r once the swing damage crosses 800. Could swap off the proc weapon after getting the desired proc to avoid the chance of accidental additional procs.

Just one way you can do it. A variety of testing methods could be used, all you need is 1 known variable and you can solve for the rest.

The proc on WESS (https://wiki.project1999.com/WESS) is a blind, which actually have aggro rules on their own, more than just hate. It acts like a root when people are in melee range (mob attacks closest) and acts like a fear when there is nobody on the hate list in melee range (mob runs away).

[PatChapp]

Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification!

Yes, disease/poison counters were an issue for Shamans.

https://youtu.be/umuVBewCNgY?feature=shared

This is a video I made in 2020 showing how to have your pet tank a Cliff Golem. I used Epic and JBB to do most of the work rather than relying on Disease/Poison spells due to the hate generation from those spells.



Yeah testing hate shouldn't be difficult. You can do it with a pet class or with two players. Just need to be precise when it comes to counting swings/procs/spell casts.
It also had the possibly unintended effect of making tash line of spells near 0 agro.
Before the patch,an early tash on a dragon was called tashicide and was a guaranteed death.
Now you can tash at any point,feels like no more than sit agro.

[Goregasmic]

Wouldn't be that hard, swing damage you can just add up any damage done on swings, add it to the theoretical hate amount generated via a proc and get a total hate figure.

For example if we assume both the WESS proc and Bio Orb click generate 800 agro each then you could click the bio orb twice, proc the WESS once and then you should see mob agro flip from the orb clicker to the WESS proc'r once the swing damage crosses 800. Could swap off the proc weapon after getting the desired proc to avoid the chance of accidental additional procs.

Just one way you can do it. A variety of testing methods could be used, all you need is 1 known variable and you can solve for the rest.

IIIRC hate generated is weap damage + damage bonus on every swing, no matter the outcome (hit or miss).

WESS would be 22 on every swing + proc. Then you turn auto attack off and turn around to eliminate ripostes. Theoretically that's 22 x (swings#)+800.

Then someone else tries to rip aggro with bio orb and counts how many tries it takes, assuming an orb is 800 hate a pop. Also assuming the 4 poison counters on WESS do zero hate.

The thing is it says its up to 400 hate per SPA but we don't know post nerf if blind does 400 and if -5atk is "strong" enough to cap at 400. Assuming both procs have the same value, it would be (swing hate value)/(bio orb casts)+1cast to get even hate then you see if a minor hate generation like 1 swing or a very low level DD rips it off.

But then you cornered the value of 1 proc effect. 800 is a lot of hate but for a weapon with snare we don't know how much it is. I guess you could have a wizard nuke for (swinghatevalue) and then start nuking in 50dmg increments until they rip aggro?

It also had the possibly unintended effect of making tash line of spells near 0 agro.
Before the patch,an early tash on a dragon was called tashicide and was a guaranteed death.
Now you can tash at any point,feels like no more than sit agro.

Yeah I don't know for dragons but when charming I can pretty much stick pet and throw tash right away and I never gain aggro. Usually I follow immediately with fetter and forlorn and I'm not gaining aggro either. (Hasted and torched pets hurts quick though). Theft of thought will usually rip aggro if you don't wait a bit so you're at least getting the full 1200 hate from that.

[PatChapp]

Bio orb generates a lot of hate, I think blind still does the 400 per.

If you have access to a wizard,flux staff is great for measuring haye. Its fixed hate per click and instant

[WarpathEQ]

The proc on WESS (https://wiki.project1999.com/WESS) is a blind, which actually have aggro rules on their own, more than just hate. It acts like a root when people are in melee range (mob attacks closest) and acts like a fear when there is nobody on the hate list in melee range (mob runs away).

That's why Bio Orb would be a great comparable item to test since its literally the same effect line for line minus the poison counter component. The blind isn't too big of a consideration as once the effect wears off it would choose who to pursue based on normal hate/agro table. But yes small chance of false results if the mob flips due to a blind and not overtaking agro.

[WarpathEQ]

It also had the possibly unintended effect of making tash line of spells near 0 agro.
Before the patch,an early tash on a dragon was called tashicide and was a guaranteed death.
Now you can tash at any point,feels like no more than sit agro.

Makes sense, without the counter contributing to hate its really just a minor resist debuff, should have similar hate to a click of a flux staff from a wizard for example. Whether that aligns with classic in era I can't say for sure, but certainly aligns with our knowledge of hate/agro mechanics on P99 currently.

[zelld52]

Update: After reaching level 49 - I have some stats.

Here's my weapons I've been using.

1 Handers : Swiftblade of Zek, Frostbringer, Paebala Warbone, Sebilite Croaking Dirk
2 Hander: Herbalist Spade

Best DPS / Aggro: SBoZ +Sebilite Croaking Dirk. Having two 18 delay weapons + 34% worn (and if lucky, spell haste) - I'm able to pull aggro off a shaman slowing just using Taunt + White Damage. Can also hold aggro with epic rogue backstabbing. No procs needed. Frostbringer is also very good aggro when it procs, but the DPS is very slightly lower than the Dirk in offhand.

I imagine the DPS will change when I reach 51+ and the weapon skills exceed 200. Along with double attack, riposte and Offense. I expect the Herbalist Spade to take over as top DPS.

As it stands now, the fast 1 handers are better DPS and threat. Hoping to nab a slick ToV 2-Hander within the next few weeks.

[WarpathEQ]

Update: After reaching level 49 - I have some stats.

Here's my weapons I've been using.

1 Handers : Swiftblade of Zek, Frostbringer, Paebala Warbone, Sebilite Croaking Dirk
2 Hander: Herbalist Spade

Best DPS / Aggro: SBoZ +Sebilite Croaking Dirk. Having two 18 delay weapons + 34% worn (and if lucky, spell haste) - I'm able to pull aggro off a shaman slowing just using Taunt + White Damage. Can also hold aggro with epic rogue backstabbing. No procs needed. Frostbringer is also very good aggro when it procs, but the DPS is very slightly lower than the Dirk in offhand.

I imagine the DPS will change when I reach 51+ and the weapon skills exceed 200. Along with double attack, riposte and Offense. I expect the Herbalist Spade to take over as top DPS.

As it stands now, the fast 1 handers are better DPS and threat. Hoping to nab a slick ToV 2-Hander within the next few weeks.

Did you try frostbringer in mainhand? I only ever see warriors main handing it as the proc rate will be much higher which will contribute significantly more threat.

[Naethyn]

Piercing has lower skill cap on warrior.

[Duik]

Does neg 20 AC really make much DPS difference as well? Or is it the fact its a debuff that pisses mobs off.
How much hate is generated by the debuff.
12/22 is a godlike weapon (to lil ol' me).

[PatChapp]

Just the rebuffed, Even if resisted,will generate 400 hate. If the damage portion lands it adds additional hate.
The reasonable ratio develops decent white threat.

[Duik]

A 32/36 exquisite 2hb is 1200pp. Is this a common enuf drop to be easy to buy in a resonable amount of time?

A 12/22 frosty costs ≈ 3000k and you need another weapon. A 12/22 folded velium is ≈ 1000pp.

Sounds like alot to do less dps.

[Duik]

Ok.
Should really ignore that post above.
A 32/36 2HB is 12 thousand not 12 hundered.

Opening with a load of rubbish does not bode well for the rest of the post....

[Goregasmic]

Did you try frostbringer in mainhand? I only ever see warriors main handing it as the proc rate will be much higher which will contribute significantly more threat.

Problem with frostbringer main hand is the 22 delay really doesn't take advantage of damage bonus much. I was curious so I ran the numbers

If hate = weapdmg + dmg bonus every swing, in hate per minute at 60:

9/19 = 631 lamentation
9/18 = 667 jade mace
12/22 = 627 frostbringer
11/20 = 660 guard captain mallet
10/18 = 699 sebilite croaking dirk
12/20 = 690 exq. Vel. BH
11/18 = 733 SBOZ

42/49 = 1029 argent prot
32/36 = 1050 exq 2h
39/43 = 1060 spade
33/44 = 859 truncheon
40/40 = 1110 reaver


So as you can see even a lamentation generates more hpm than a frostbringer from swings but frostbringer trumps probably pretty much any 1hander in game that doesn't have a proc, IF it procs. So it kind of all hangs on your dex and the situation. I used a 1proc/min to simplify calculations but IIRC that's basically naked dext. So if you have any dex on gear you'll proc more for sure but if you're clearing group trash you won't see procs on all mobs.

A reaver will do better even without procs... BUT you got an offhand that also generates hate so I guess if FB procs even 2 handers can't catch up. Damage bonus is about half the hpm value so if hate calculations don't factor DB for OH, depending on the OH you might be above or below reaver if FB doesn't proc.

If you have high dex and can proc twice a minute the frostbringer will basically be doing 1500+ hpm IF frostbite is really a 460hate proc, putting it way above everything else.

If I forgot something please chime in. This goes against a lot of what I've read on the topic and I don't think I'm that smart.

[Crede]

Problem with frostbringer main hand is the 22 delay really doesn't take advantage of damage bonus much. I was curious so I ran the numbers

If hate = weapdmg + dmg bonus every swing, in hate per minute at 60:

9/19 = 631 lamentation
9/18 = 667 jade mace
12/22 = 627 frostbringer
11/20 = 660 guard captain mallet
10/18 = 699 sebilite croaking dirk
12/20 = 690 exq. Vel. BH
11/18 = 733 SBOZ

42/49 = 1029 argent prot
32/36 = 1050 exq 2h
39/43 = 1060 spade
33/44 = 859 truncheon
40/40 = 1110 reaver


So as you can see even a lamentation generates more hpm than a frostbringer from swings but frostbringer trumps probably pretty much any 1hander in game that doesn't have a proc, IF it procs. So it kind of all hangs on your dex and the situation. I used a 1proc/min to simplify calculations but IIRC that's basically naked dext. So if you have any dex on gear you'll proc more for sure but if you're clearing group trash you won't see procs on all mobs.

A reaver will do better even without procs... BUT you got an offhand that also generates hate so I guess if FB procs even 2 handers can't catch up. Damage bonus is about half the hpm value so if hate calculations don't factor DB for OH, depending on the OH you might be above or below reaver if FB doesn't proc.

If you have high dex and can proc twice a minute the frostbringer will basically be doing 1500+ hpm IF frostbite is really a 460hate proc, putting it way above everything else.

If I forgot something please chime in. This goes against a lot of what I've read on the topic and I don't think I'm that smart.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Frostreaver

Get one of these if you can

[Goregasmic]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Frostreaver

Get one of these if you can

Yeah best of both worlds but the thread title is tunnel gear so I stayed true to OPs question. Haven't raided much either so it is out of my wheelhouse anyway. I'm sure there's plenty of cheap drops you can get for low DKP or outright buy but that's beyond the scope of the question.

How much would a frostreaver be if one paid plat for it, just out of curiosity?

[Crede]

Yeah best of both worlds but the thread title is tunnel gear so I stayed true to OPs question. Haven't raided much either so it is out of my wheelhouse anyway. I'm sure there's plenty of cheap drops you can get for low DKP or outright buy but that's beyond the scope of the question.

How much would a frostreaver be if one paid plat for it, just out of curiosity?

Yea op is already talking about getting tov gear soon so that’s out the door.

Not sure but I’d imagine it’s pretty cheap if it’s fuse.

[Goregasmic]

I just reread first page and he's an elf so no frostreaver.

[zelld52]

Yea op is already talking about getting tov gear soon so that’s out the door.


Hoping to, hah. Whether it happens or not is up to a combination of RNG and the other raiders interested in a beefy 2h for their warrior twinks.

But for now, the SBoZ + Seb Croaking Dirk is doing me good in groups. I use the Herb Spade for soloing and less ripostes etc.

And yes, elf so no Frostreaver. But the fashion is worth it.

[Crede]

Hoping to, hah. Whether it happens or not is up to a combination of RNG and the other raiders interested in a beefy 2h for their warrior twinks.

But for now, the SBoZ + Seb Croaking Dirk is doing me good in groups. I use the Herb Spade for soloing and less ripostes etc.

And yes, elf so no Frostreaver. But the fashion is worth it.

I wouldn’t blow your dkp on a beefy 2h because warrior solo potential tanks 50+ due to not having cc you really can’t handle adds and hoping for procs sucks.

I went with kt axe on my war, great ratio stats and cost me like 5 dkp. I’d personally save your dkp for other warrior gear that actually matters.

[PatChapp]

I didn't find it too bad to solo on my warrior. Spots are limited to ones that don't require cc,for sure. But you can absolutely solo even through 59. It isn't fun or anything but you can do it pretty afk at least.

[Crede]

Oh yea any class can afk chill and kill random standalone mobs to 60 but you’re not gonna have the same momentum as you did sub 50 vs other melee like a sk or pal that have a lot more options. I just wouldn’t go all in on a huge 2h in the hopes that it’s gonna make you this solo king because it won’t. I did a 200+ dex build and relying on root procs was not ideal even with a haste clicky for more dps.

[PatChapp]

Oh yea any class can afk chill and kill random standalone mobs to 60 but you’re not gonna have the same momentum as you did sub 50 vs other melee like a sk or pal that have a lot more options. I just wouldn’t go all in on a huge 2h in the hopes that it’s gonna make you this solo king because it won’t. I did a 200+ dex build and relying on root procs was not ideal even with a haste clicky for more dps.
Yeah I only had a Narandis lance but eyepatch +sky belt for haste helped a lot. Sky belt somewhat sucks at 60,but is great for leveling at least.
I basically killed barbarians from 51-60 when I solod.
The mcmarrins until 55,and then the barbarian bank guards in qeynos until 60
It worked,certainly not fun or the fastest but if you can pay attention for a minute or 2 every 6-10 mins youll get there eventually

[Jimjam]

My red war used club of ice ocean and venomous axe for most of 51-60 agains sonic bats and LDCs 57+. Its easy but time consuming yet fun remembering the spawns / timing pulls / running to zone lines.

[Crede]

Hoping to, hah. Whether it happens or not is up to a combination of RNG and the other raiders interested in a beefy 2h for their warrior twinks.

But for now, the SBoZ + Seb Croaking Dirk is doing me good in groups. I use the Herb Spade for soloing and less ripostes etc.

And yes, elf so no Frostreaver. But the fashion is worth it.

If you can get a scimitar of lifestealing & silver whip, that would be a neat 1h build lol

[Drueric]

This is a bit late, but... hear me out.

Iksar Berzerker Club is late game OP, for a warrior.

[Jimjam]

It is a beautiful proc.