Frostreaver vs Reaver - leveling weapon

[baue1446]

So my lvl 9 pally has a few weapon choices trying to get the most dmg output i can. I'll likely solo with fungi all pre 50 so making sure I do the most dmg possible is what I'm looking for. So frostreaver is 42/43 with 50 hp +stats and a proc that doesn't go off till 50 so not a factor. The reaver is 40/40 no hp just resists.

Which is better? Any other weapons out there a 9 can pickup (besides primal) that I could get thats better?

I also have Hammer of battle 1hb from statue (17/25)

[Barlu]

Leveling solo I’m not sure you’re going to see a huge difference in dps between the two. I would probably just got Frostreaver so you don’t have to worry about magic mobs. Reaver also looks terrible if that matters to you.

That should easily hold you over till you can get a ToV 2 hander. As you get later into your solo career, buy damage shield pots. They make a huge difference.

[Crede]

If I had to choose 1 obviously frostreaver for magic mobs and that extra 50+ aggro, but ideally keep both if you have the means to obtain a Frostreaver then having a reaver bagged isn't a big deal. You may even find yourself wanting to use a reaver to not draw aggro in certain situations. And as Barlu said Reaver looks terrible so if your focus is FQ then don't even bother with it.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I would just use Frostreaver. The DPS difference is going to be small, and Frostreaver is magic. Just sell the Reaver if you can, unless you want to use it on another char or use it as a backup weapon for less agro.

I wouldn't use Frostreaver until at least level 20 though, other than for skilling up 2 hand slashing every level.

Low level players have Damage Caps. Frostreaver is a 9/43 weapon from levels 1-9, a 14/43 weapon from levels 10-19, and a 30/43 weapon from levels 20-29. It will be a 42/43 at level 30+.

Use your 17/25 hammer until at least level 20. At level 20+ the hammer has a 17 ÷ 25 = 0.68 damage ratio vs a 30 ÷ 43 = 0.69 damage ratio for your damage capped Frostreaver, so both should be about the same by then. Hammer might still be the better choice from 20-29, because you can wear a shield with it. DPS wise Hammer and Frostreaver will be similar from 20-29, and you don't start getting the main hand damage bonus until 28.

If you look in my signature I have a damage calculator, so you can also use that to compare weapons. Just let me know if you have questions about using it.

[Snaggles]

The proc is roughly 4dps if it lands for full damage (2 proc per min = 250d / 60seconds = 4.16dps). That would make up for the 1 delay missing.

One is an aggro weapon, one isn’t (but Pallies can fix that with spells).
One hits undead, one doesn’t (but I don’t fight undead…the Reaver kills guards)
For raiding one might not be worth using and the other will work on like 99% of raid targets.

The Reaver to Narandi is a tried and true formula for a solo paladin. I’d definitely add a Frostreaver to the collection if your race can equip it. It looks cool as Hell and has decent overall stats.

[kjs86z2]

frostreaver

[zelld52]

you have loot from a city leader on a level 9 but cant tell that the frostreaver is better?

this is why p99 sucks, warmbodies get gear .

[DeathsSilkyMist]

you have loot from a city leader on a level 9 but cant tell that the frostreaver is better?

this is why p99 sucks, warmbodies get gear .

That's probably a little harsh. There are people on P99 who simply focus on playing casters, and haven't really played melee classes before. Generally speaking caster classes are recommended first over melee classes.

If you have been doing cleric duties, coth duties, etc., those aren't warm body contributions.

You can spend your DKP on a melee alt you have little experience with because you want to try something new, and ask questions about it.

[zelld52]

seen so many posts about what end-game gear to use on lowbie toons on these forums.

i know Frostreaver doesnt exactly break DKP banks these days, but .... its the differ3ence between asking about a Frostreaver vs. Reaver on a level 55 paladin that someones spent months learning to play, vs. asking about a level 9 paladin who also has im sure lots of other raid loot that will carry them through levels, and the player will not require any skill to level, raid and collect more DKP. will wind up being a level 60 warmbody paladin which is absolutely useless

if you had the experience in the game required to be helpful on a raid like Dain, youd know the answer to the questions asked like "should i use baton of flame and wurmscale fistwraps or primal 2hb on my level 46 monk alt" so its pretty obvious players like this are not helpful on raids outside of answering buff requests and typing /pet attack.

edit: not even experience. just being observant, really.

[kjs86z2]

you have loot from a city leader on a level 9 but cant tell that the frostreaver is better?

this is why p99 sucks, warmbodies get gear .

yikes buddy

yikes

[DeathsSilkyMist]

yikes buddy

yikes

Agreed.

[zelld52]

Agreed.

another swell contribution you clown.

if being passive aggressive AND wrong most of the time were fields of study youd have PhDs

[zelld52]

id say forgive me for my harshness but idgaf. i 90% retired from p99 years ago because every raid with every guild wound up being the same.

6-10 players doing all the work, while the rest sit semi AFK, soak up DKP and bid on city leader loot for their lowbie alts.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

another swell contribution you clown.

if being passive aggressive AND wrong most of the time were fields of study youd have PhDs

Yikes. I contributed far more to this thread than yourself.

Sorry you wasted everybodies time with rage double post nonsense.


6-10 players doing all the work, while the rest sit semi AFK, soak up DKP and bid on city leader loot for their lowbie alts.

Good luck doing AoW with 6-10 people. I'll take my CH chain, Enchanters with pets, buffers, DPSes, etc. Sorry you don't got.

[Snaggles]

This really comes down to raiding vs exping.

The Frostreaver has a 125dd proc that isn’t lure-based (0 check) so it likely won’t land or land reliably on some targets (same level or higher, or cold immune). It’s also going to generate aggro regardless. That said…if it’s landing reliably it will easily close the ratio gap over the Reaver. If it’s stunning too, that’s potential added functionality on sub-55 npcs. Especially if they are casters.

The Reaver has a slightly better ratio and no unwanted aggro. I highly doubt the ratio will make up for the lack of a DD proc (if it would land). On raid stuff it’s safer and likely will do a smidge more dps. You can also pick it up in the tunnel for a small plat investment.

This is just an another version of the debate of the ToV DD proccing one-handers like the Frostwrath and Sledge of Smashing. While those don’t have a similar aggro component, they can do decent on blue cons with some proc luck. On raid targets or anything that isn’t affected by the DD they become marginal.

[PatChapp]

A warm body inexperienced paladin can cast DS and click soulfires just fine.

[kjs86z2]

id say forgive me for my harshness but idgaf. i 90% retired from p99 years ago because every raid with every guild wound up being the same.

6-10 players doing all the work, while the rest sit semi AFK, soak up DKP and bid on city leader loot for their lowbie alts.

the odds of you being an actual playmaker is real low....so this is pretty cringe