Is it actually impossible to start with a difficult class as a new player?

[SorenVC]

Hey! I was wondering if I could pick my first class to be a Rogue. Rogue is perhaps the most group dependent character or so and it's also a melee class. From my research, Necromancer is the easiest solo class and is highly recommended for new players, and so is the Enchanter who is a little group dependent.

But if I wanted to start with Rogue, could I do it? I don't have much experience with the game. I got a Barbarian Shaman up to level 8 and deleted the character. If I wanted to start a new character as Rogue will it be a good choice? Or is it much better to pick Necromancer as your first class?

Now I am definitely sure about one thing, is that I want to play as a Human starting in Freeport. What kind of classes and religion do you recommend for me as a completely new player who wants to play as a Human in Freeport? I only wanted to make Rogue my first class because I fancy the Ravenscale armor set.

[Snaggles]

With a decent weapon(s) and bandages you can solo for a while. It’s much easier with a fungi.

If you dabble in poison making, spine break in the late game can let you solo weak blue cons to 60 with lesser gear.

Rogues do best with agnostic since the illusion masks are more likely to give them favorable faction results. I don’t think there is any diety perk for the class.

There is no limit to accounts or time here. I would pick my top two favorite classes; a melee and some caster who can solo. It never hurts to have a druid, shaman, necro etc later on. The necro is going to put down fine steel carriers very quickly so you can fund the rogue. Plus then if you find a buddy or two to level the rogue with you have another class to play when they aren’t available.

[SorenVC]

With a decent weapon(s) and bandages you can solo for a while. It’s much easier with a fungi.

If you dabble in poison making, spine break in the late game can let you solo weak blue cons to 60 with lesser gear.

Rogues do best with agnostic since the illusion masks are more likely to give them favorable faction results. I don’t think there is any diety perk for the class.

There is no limit to accounts or time here. I would pick my top two favorite classes; a melee and some caster who can solo. It never hurts to have a druid, shaman, necro etc later on. The necro is going to put down fine steel carriers very quickly so you can fund the rogue. Plus then if you find a buddy or two to level the rogue with you have another class to play when they aren’t available.

Fine then I'll make a Rogue and when it gets difficult I'll start a Necromancer, also in Freeport. Thanks for telling me. Question. Do most players have two characters? Is this the recommended amount of characters to make? Like a melee class and a caster?

[kjs86z2]

if it were a newer server with lots of low level grouping you'd be fine

unfortunately its top heavy - everyone twinks / PLs through the early slog

tough road solo rogue with no funds

[SorenVC]

if it were a newer server with lots of low level grouping you'd be fine

unfortunately its top heavy - everyone twinks / PLs through the early slog

tough road solo rogue with no funds

I'll just make a Rogue and play until it gets impossible then I'll start a Necromancer character. Will have both the hardest and easiest class to play through to level 60.

[Snaggles]

I’m not sure at this point anything is recommended or normal. If this server kept progressing there would be less time to make alts. I would say most people here have at least a couple/few 60’s and a handful of lower alts.

Being able to log on for a senseless grind, farm, or running errands with your alt makes for a better experience. There will be times in your 50’s that the rogue solo spawn is camped. At that point it’s the alt, or just logging off.

[SorenVC]

I’m not sure at this point anything is recommended or normal. If this server kept progressing there would be less time to make alts. I would say most people here have at least a couple/few 60’s and a handful of lower alts.

Being able to log on for a senseless grind, farm, or running errands with your alt makes for a better experience. There will be times in your 50’s that the rogue solo spawn is camped. At that point it’s the alt, or just logging off.

What class do you recommend if I want to play as a Human in Freeport? And what deity? Always Agnostic if possible?

[shovelquest]

What class do you recommend if I want to play as a Human in Freeport? And what deity? Always Agnostic if possible?

I think your plan of trying rogue, then doing necro is a good one, agnostic if you can for sure, although.. someone else might want to chime in about the necro because maybe there is a quest you can do with one of the others (idk! but someone will!)

You will have a tough time as the rogue, but you will experience the start of the game normally, soloing and killing skeletons and stuff, it will get hard fast! And you will switch to your necro, and then feel the major difference! That will teach you a lot about the game!

FWIW bertoxx necro is fun roleplay (but that starts in qeynos) but.. qeynos is really cool and is a good starting area if you are soloing! Though I don't want to turn you away from freeport! :o The tunnel is nice to have access to for buffs!

[Kich867]

Fine then I'll make a Rogue and when it gets difficult I'll start a Necromancer, also in Freeport. Thanks for telling me. Question. Do most players have two characters? Is this the recommended amount of characters to make? Like a melee class and a caster?

I mean maybe its just me but, I think _most_ players here have like 8-40 characters. Seen some people out here talking about leveling their 4th Shaman to 60 like damn dawg. I have 8 or 9 characters currently, ranging from like level 5 to 60.

Even though rogues are pretty group dependent past early levels, the upside is that they're also very desired. They do a lot of damage, they're good at recovering wipes, handful of dungeons they allow easy access to certain places that normally require keys.

It was a bummer wanting to relax and do some grouping on my wizard and it was fairly difficult to find one.

[Snaggles]

What class do you recommend if I want to play as a Human in Freeport? And what deity? Always Agnostic if possible?

I would look at the wiki. Some dieties have fun quests, especially shaman, clerics, and druids with the symbol clickies. Rangers with the tracker helm.

The rest are mostly just ease of travel. I mentioned the rogue like the bard as the illusion masks reset the racial faction hit. Really though, 99% of the time people just use those for the aesthetics.

Human agnostic wouldn’t be bad. Probably dubious in most cities. My erudite CT SK can travel almost anywhere without issue, even SFG. Human semi-evil is a great setup as you can go most places outside Grobb and Oggok. And skelly illusion fixes most of that including being able to vendor.

[MageBlue]

If you want a fun challenge just for today only forming a highlander guild on p99 green

Everybody roll best elf

Turn in your book to priest of discord to get pvp enabled

Group up other pvp players

As pvp player you cannot receive *any* buffs from bluebies

Will stay in nek till 6 then move into ec

*can* receive items and plat

If peeps ask what going tell the prophet already warned those in ec to repent

[Salaryman]

RED99

[MageBlue]

Well it is confirmed

Salaryman is fanatic flat earther

Even after Jeff Bezos sends him up - space tourism - and sees with his own eyes that blue marble that is our home - would STILL insist the world is flat

P99 red is working perfectly and as intended - a daycare for the vile sociopathic griefer

Now after the devs finish integrating deepseek library will be able automate sociopath detection - so they added fbi watch list

[one3eight]

Can't remember his name but there was a dude that did a solo/self found rogue to 60

[Swish]

Can't remember his name but there was a dude that did a solo/self found rogue to 60

Was that Barthorn? I know he did a warrior but it sounds like something he'd do afterwards...insane!

[zelld52]

Monk is a good choice for Freeport human. Monk can solo way better thank rogue, thanks in part to mend (guaranteed 25% heal at 200 skill), dual wielding at level 1, and monk defensive skills like block (level 12) and stone stance (level 51)

Monk is a dps like rogue, and while rogue hide/sneak is the preferred method of traversing dangerous areas, monks feign death (level 17) and sneak means they can also get around pretty unscathed

[WarpathEQ]

Gotta love a thread that starts with a new player asking about rolling a brand new toon and only ever making it to level 8 devolving into a thread about end game and how many 60 toons people have. Way to be useless to the OP.

As someone who also rolled a Barbarian shaman as my first character ever back in 1999 and eventually quit the character I think there is something important you may not be considering about your ideal character.....race.

In my experience barbarian and human are some of the worst, most useless races in the game and make quality of life much worse regardless of what class you play. To me the only point of human even existing as a race is to be able to roll a monk pre-kunark. Both have amongst the worst night vision of any race in the game and make it extremely hard to navigate the world. While this can be largely offset by gear over time, when you die and need to assist in corpse recovery (something rogues are expected to do frequently and over any other class) you're making one of the most negative experiences in the game 3x more frustrating and complicated which are generally the types of things that lead people to quit the toon/game.

When it comes to class selection there is no right or wrong answer, for the most part the game is surprisingly well balanced and every class has a purpose and excels at certain things, sure there may be a right class for a particular scenario, and so it really comes down to how you want to engage in the game.

OP seems to be focused on soloability a lot and avoiding grouping while showing most interest in Rogue and Necro. If you expect to spend a fair amount of your gameplay exploring the world by yourself than save yourself the trouble, forget the rogue, and roll the necro (or consider shaman/enchanter/bard). Rogue has very little utility as a casual player that just wants to level up a character and explore exp camps. Rogue's power curve is really more in the end game and raid situations where their ability to deliver top notch DPS on tough targets and move about zones undetected really shine.

First thing is figuring out what class you want to play, then racial selection can be determined. Head over to the P99 wiki and go to the class page for the class you decide to roll. The top 20-25% of the page is all about character creation, it walks through all available races, the benefits and opportunities of each, religion, and anything you might want to consider to avoid regret later. I've never rolled a necro but I assume Iksar is the prevailing premiere race for that class given how much HP regen benefits a necro's play style. If you do end up going rogue I would highly encourage gnome. I've leveled many rogues and found the quality of life of the gnome was the best, and the good thing is if you get super far along in the game and really regret not being a different race there are illusion masks you can get to become virtually any other race in the game (but sadly you can no longer get an illusion to become a gnome).

[Tann]

Is it actually impossible to start with a difficult class as a new player?

No, any class is doable as a new player, it all boils down to how much downtime your willing to put up with. Any class can solo to 60, again it all depends on how much downtime you can tolerate.

[loramin]

No, any class is doable as a new player, it all boils down to how much downtime your willing to put up with. Any class can solo to 60, again it all depends on how much downtime you can tolerate.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

No, any class is doable as a new player, it all boils down to how much downtime your willing to put up with. Any class can solo to 60, again it all depends on how much downtime you can tolerate.

Indeed. Soloing a self found Rogue to 60 mostly requires some game knowledge on which easy single spawn mobs can be camped by a rogue, and at what levels you can get upgrades for your weapons.

It's just going to take significantly longer than solo leveling a Necromancer. At least 2-4x longer. That's why a lot of people don't end up self found soloing a Rogue to 60. It isn't challenging if you know what to do, it's just tedious.

[Duik]

No, any class is doable as a new player, it all boils down to how much downtime your willing to put up with. Any class can solo to 60, again it all depends on how much downtime you can tolerate.

While technically true, the skill of the player would define the quality of the journey.

Now im not a "bad" player, but I would not consider solo (newbie player) rogue if the other option is necro.

Ive read some great stories of how solo artists overcome some targets (sans consumables) that I prolly wouldnt think of.

Having said that, if you (OP) feel up to the challenge and are willing to try out of the box stuff it may work out great.

Given the fact you have (hard) time limits. I'd lvl a cash
cow necro/sham/druid/bard with time allowing, start the rog with some toys later.
Night blindness sucks but if ya prepared to endure it, hit that thang.

[Snaggles]

I think if we didn’t suggest at least leveling a couple classes, one to feed the melee with gear, it would be a disservice to the OP.

An EQ rogue is not like most elsewhere. They are horrid soloers with all but great gear. If the plan was to buddy-up…sure, it won’t be bad.

My rogue on live was pretty much self-found except a Dragoon Dirk a buddy gifted me at level 12. It took a long time and I learned a lot along the way. I played with poisons. Knowing what we know now, with a meager budget, it still is less painful than soloing a cleric to 60. That also presumes the OP is as much as a sadist as most of us. Finding a single spawn from like 52-60 and clocking in to grind hours ad nauseam.

[Swish]

I think if we didn’t suggest at least leveling a couple classes, one to feed the melee with gear, it would be a disservice to the OP.

An EQ rogue is not like most elsewhere. They are horrid soloers with all but great gear. If the plan was to buddy-up…sure, it won’t be bad.

My rogue on live was pretty much self-found except a Dragoon Dirk a buddy gifted me at level 12. It took a long time and I learned a lot along the way. I played with poisons. Knowing what we know now, with a meager budget, it still is less painful than soloing a cleric to 60. That also presumes the OP is as much as a sadist as most of us. Finding a single spawn from like 52-60 and clocking in to grind hours ad nauseam.

What's wrong with soloing a cleric? Half the battle is knowing where to be (hint: undead mobs) and then it's just the usual timesink.

[MageBlue]

RED99


Please forgive me Salaryman

Yes Red

Pras Inny

Will dm you my best elf bard name

[MageBlue]

Indeed. Soloing a self found Rogue to 60 mostly requires some game knowledge on which easy single spawn mobs can be camped by a rogue, and at what levels you can get upgrades for your weapons.

It's just going to take significantly longer than solo leveling a Necromancer. At least 2-4x longer. That's why a lot of people don't end up self found soloing a Rogue to 60. It isn't challenging if you know what to do, it's just tedious.


Hi DSM

please join us on red99

Will dm you my best elf name

You rock ?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Hi DSM

please join us on red99

Will dm you my best elf name

You rock ?

Thanks! I have tried red before. It's too empty for my taste. If I wanted to play a dead server, I'd just roll my own EQEMU server.

[Snaggles]

What's wrong with soloing a cleric? Half the battle is knowing where to be (hint: undead mobs) and then it's just the usual timesink.

It’s just single target killing; not good and not horrible. Non undead nukes are not much less efficient.

I killed Nobles and in stuff The Hole to like 57. The solution is finding an enchanter buddy who is farming.

Soloing a cleric to 60 is no more boring than a rogue. You just have less swagger.

[Jimjam]

Search ‘Ghost Step’.

[MageBlue]

Search ‘Ghost Step’.


Ghost step is nasty planes of power AA ability

[Jimjam]

Ghost step is nasty planes of power AA ability

I swear this was a term here given to a trick for achieving a solo backstab but the thread on it seems to have been nuked from existence :eek:

[SorenVC]

Just tell me what race/class I should pick based on my favorite colors being black+pink and my fav animal is the Raven. Anything that resembles this ingame?

I only wanted to do a Rogue cause they have the Ravenscale armor. But if it's too hard it's too hard. What race/class then should I pick if I like the color soft pink?

[Jimjam]

Heya, if you want to have a set of black armor using the chaintexture you aren't limited to Ravenscale, and so you aren't limited to Rogue.

Have you considered Blackened Alloy Armour? It provides decent AC at a light weight (and a few pieces give some other useful stats too). I believe any chain / plate class can wear it too!

Female Iksars have some nice pink details. I'd argue their reptilian appearance suggests they are diapsids, like birds, rather than synapsids like humans (and presumably the similar softskins ... if we can even force real world groupings on to the disparate peoples of Norrath) making them the closest race to a bird race.

Decked out in Blackened Alloy armor a female iksar shaman, warrior or shadowknight
may be of interest to you (think of the link between fear, death, decay, ravens and shadow knights...).

[SorenVC]

Heya, if you want to have a set of black armor using the chaintexture you aren't limited to Ravenscale, and so you aren't limited to Rogue.

Have you considered Blackened Alloy Armour? It provides decent AC at a light weight (and a few pieces give some other useful stats too). I believe any chain / plate class can wear it too!

Female Iksars have some nice pink details. I'd argue their reptilian appearance suggests they are diapsids, like birds, rather than synapsids like humans (and presumably the similar softskins ... if we can even force real world groupings on to the disparate peoples of Norrath) making them the closest race to a bird race.

Decked out in Blackened Alloy armor a female iksar shaman, warrior or shadowknight
may be of interest to you (think of the link between fear, death, decay, ravens and shadow knights...).

I don't care about the black color in specific. I have asperger and I like choosing things especially in an MMO that shows what I like. I like the color soft pink for some reason and I like Ravens. Isn't there anything by name or color in EverQuest that resembles the color pink or a Raven for a class/race combo?

[SorenVC]

Heya, if you want to have a set of black armor using the chaintexture you aren't limited to Ravenscale, and so you aren't limited to Rogue.

Have you considered Blackened Alloy Armour? It provides decent AC at a light weight (and a few pieces give some other useful stats too). I believe any chain / plate class can wear it too!

Female Iksars have some nice pink details. I'd argue their reptilian appearance suggests they are diapsids, like birds, rather than synapsids like humans (and presumably the similar softskins ... if we can even force real world groupings on to the disparate peoples of Norrath) making them the closest race to a bird race.

Decked out in Blackened Alloy armor a female iksar shaman, warrior or shadowknight
may be of interest to you (think of the link between fear, death, decay, ravens and shadow knights...).

Like is there a race or class specific armor that looks like soft pink or a lot of black with some pink? Or anything with a Raven? I only found the Ravenscale armor for Rogue. Let me just say I picked the Raven as favorite animal because I'm a fan of Half-Life 2 and Ravenholm was a pretty cool part in it. I also like Zombies. Zombies, Ravens, Black+Soft Pink. What comes to mind in EverQuest?

[PatChapp]

The servers are so old now you'll be fine starting as a fresh rogue. Passable gear is cheap in the tunnel,and even a rogue can farm up enough plat to get a decent weapon.
Just don't plan on soloing past the first levels,but soloing on an mmo is kind of lame anyway.

[SorenVC]

The servers are so old now you'll be fine starting as a fresh rogue. Passable gear is cheap in the tunnel,and even a rogue can farm up enough plat to get a decent weapon.
Just don't plan on soloing past the first levels,but soloing on an mmo is kind of lame anyway.

I would rather choose an easier class though. Isn't there a good race/class combo that has something to do with the color pink or with zombies or with ravens? Even if there are only ravens or zombies or something pink in the starting city?

[Tann]

I would rather choose an easier class though. Isn't there a good race/class combo that has something to do with the color pink or with zombies or with ravens? Even if there are only ravens or zombies or something pink in the starting city?

Consider starting as a Human Paladin, following the "Queen of Love" Erollisi Marr, the cultural armor is pink-ish. Get a ghoulbane and travel to unrest in your low teens to fight zombies for days and weeks and months.

[SorenVC]

Consider starting as a Human Paladin, following the "Queen of Love" Erollisi Marr, the cultural armor is pink-ish. Get a ghoulbane and travel to unrest in your low teens to fight zombies for days and weeks and months.

Can you show me a picture of the Queen of Love cultural armor or are there none on the internet? I gotta admit though, out of all the religions in EverQuest I like Erollisi Marr, Quellious, Karana the most, I think. I never considered myself an evil person and I always prefer the good alignment races.

[Jimjam]

There are quite a limited pool of armour textures. Each race has a cloth, leather, chain and plate set of textures for females and another set for males. Some races also have a fee robe textures and a monk texture too.

Individual armour sets don’t have unique appearances - they’ll use one of those textures and maybe tint the texture with a single colour. The velious expansion added a few new armour textures too.

So you won’t find an armour with a pink and black tint.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Fashion

https://wiki.project1999.com/FashionQuest_Guide

[SorenVC]

There are quite a limited pool of armour textures. Each race has a cloth, leather, chain and plate set of textures for females and another set for males. Some races also have a fee robe textures and a monk texture too.

Individual armour sets don’t have unique appearances - they’ll use one of those textures and maybe tint the texture with a single colour. The velious expansion added a few new armour textures too.

So you won’t find an armour with a pink and black tint.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Fashion

That pink armor in the image with the female Erudite looks good. To be honest, I do like those Erudites they specialize in magic and knowledge, kinda like High Elfs, BUT I wouldn't want to play as a black character in an MMO since I'm white. I think Erudites are one of the coolest races but I wouldn't want to play as the black people out of principle. :D

Maybe I'm just too racist lol. Well the person above you has said the Erollisi Marr cultural armor from the Humans (in Freeport or Qeynos?) is pink. So I should just choose a Human Paladin Erollisi Marr??? Is that the best choice when I like the color pink or is there something better?

[Jimjam]

Pathetic. See updated post for link on colours and how to search for items of colours you would like.

https://wiki.project1999.com/FashionQuest_Guide

[SorenVC]

Pathetic. See updated post for link on colours and how to search for items of colours you would like.

https://wiki.project1999.com/FashionQuest_Guide

How come there is no magenta and no pink? The only pink there is is Hot Pink. Is Pink such an underused color in videogames, even old ones? This is the Pink color I wanted to see in the game.

https://www.crispedge.com/color/ffc0cb/

's there anything in the game, armor, city, object that uses this color in general without dyeing it?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

That pink armor in the image with the female Erudite looks good. To be honest, I do like those Erudites they specialize in magic and knowledge, kinda like High Elfs, BUT I wouldn't want to play as a black character in an MMO since I'm white. I think Erudites are one of the coolest races but I wouldn't want to play as the black people out of principle. :D

Maybe I'm just too racist lol. Well the person above you has said the Erollisi Marr cultural armor from the Humans (in Freeport or Qeynos?) is pink. So I should just choose a Human Paladin Erollisi Marr??? Is that the best choice when I like the color pink or is there something better?

Plate wearing class is your best bet since plate armor has dyes. Paladin can solo well enough to 60.

[Jimjam]

Plate wearing class is your best bet since plate armor has dyes. Paladin can solo well enough to 60.

The wiki has some
Few examples of the dyes
DSM mentioned

https://wiki.project1999.com/Skill_Blacksmithing#Fine_Plate_Dyes

[DeathsSilkyMist]

The wiki has some
Few examples of the dyes
DSM mentioned

https://wiki.project1999.com/Skill_Blacksmithing#Fine_Plate_Dyes

Looks like there may not be a pink dye sadly, at least not that I could find. Never done armor dyes myself.

Erollisi Marr is the way to go then I guess, as was already suggested earlier.

[loramin]

How come there is no magenta and no pink? The only pink there is is Hot Pink. Is Pink such an underused color in videogames, even old ones? This is the Pink color I wanted to see in the game.

https://www.crispedge.com/color/ffc0cb/

's there anything in the game, armor, city, object that uses this color in general without dyeing it?

There are more than 16 million different hex color codes ... but EQ had a color palette of hundreds, so trying to find colors in P99 by hex code is a losing effort.

On top of that, the devs didn't want "feminine" colors (as EQ's target demographic was young male 90's gamers), so there are a lot fewer pink and purple options.

But that being said, the Twisted Nature armor:

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/thumb/Indefinite_Twisted_Nature_Chestguard.png/350px-Indefinite_Twisted_Nature_Chestguard.png

And the "Rose", "Crimson" and "Red Rust" plate dyes:

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/thumb/Rose_Fine_Plate_Ogre_Male.png/140px-Rose_Fine_Plate_Ogre_Male.png

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/thumb/Crimson_Fine_Plate_Ogre_Male2.png/140px-Crimson_Fine_Plate_Ogre_Male2.png

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/thumb/Red_Rust_Fine_Plate_Ogre_Male.png/140px-Red_Rust_Fine_Plate_Ogre_Male.png

https://wiki.project1999.com/images/thumb/333px-P99_dye_reduced.png/300px-333px-P99_dye_reduced.png

all look fairly pink to me. There might even be other shades of red that look pink-ish, but we don't have fashion screenshots for every armor unfortunately.

[SorenVC]

Thank you guys so much for helping me. I've only one final question. What animal BEST represents Erollisi Marr the Queen of Love? Is it:

A Pink Unicorn that players received on her special event day.
https://gallery.mysstie.com/cache/eq2/mounts/pink-unicorn_w520.jpg
B White Pegasus as shown next to her. They are guarding the Queen.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/eq2/images/d/d6/Erollisi_Marr-02.png/revision/latest?cb=20111217193228

I ask because I am creating a logo for my clan and wondering if I should pick a black pegasus or black unicorn and make a logo of either one... I will ditch the Raven. A little bit basic and boring.

[SorenVC]

If I want my clan logo to have a small connection to Erollisi Marr should I make a black pegasus or black unicorn logo?

[SorenVC]

what's better a black unicorn or a black pegasus..?

[SorenVC]

I will create a black pegasus logo for my clan since there are two white pegasus next to Erollisi Marr in EverQuest 2 and the Paladin .gif symbol has a helmet with white Pegasus wings you can see here.
https://wiki.project1999.com/images/C_paladin.gif

Paladin is also the class most associated with Erollisi Marr and Mithaniel Marr. I guess Erollisi Marr is the Pegasus and Mithaniel Marr is the Unicorn. Intentional design by the devs?

[Jimjam]

MM being Unicorn makes sense - he is linked to the kilt wearing barbarians, and no shade on the scots but their national creature is the unicorn.

[shovelquest]

wow so they are real.

[SorenVC]

MM being Unicorn makes sense - he is linked to the kilt wearing barbarians, and no shade on the scots but their national creature is the unicorn.

Yup, I checked the Erollisi Marr and Mithaniel Marr wiki. Mithaniel Marr is like a Lightbringer, those Paladins follow the light kinda like Anduin from WoW.

A Unicorn's horn is sort of a light source as well and since Erollisi Marr literally has two White Pegasi (Pegasus) right behind her, it makes sense that the Unicorn is the mascot animal for Mithaniel Marr. By the way they have the same surname, are they married or something?

[Jimjam]

Siblings

[WarpathEQ]

Whens the Scar of Marr expansion coming?

[SorenVC]

Whens the Scar of Marr expansion coming?

Never. Updates are done!

[Duik]

Scar Of Marr: Forbidden Offspring. Or Siblings Delight.

The Marr siblings had a threesome with the Tribunal.
Woopsie!

New playable sub-race. Introducing...
The Humarian. A Twoheaded humanoid. One head Barbarian, the other is Human.

Playable classes: Enchanter, Bard, Shaman, Beastlord. Necro.

You are welcome.

[SorenVC]

Oh it's fun let me try!

Scar Of Marr: Apple of the Serpent.

The male High Elf leader and the female Dark Elf leader had lustful sex and produced secret offspring.

New playable race. Introducing...
The Nephilim. A Dark Elf - High Elf hybrid (abomination to some). Only one religion choosable the Innoruuk Tunare religion written Tunaruuk. Have access to the best rewarding quests in the game with this deity (most expensive loot) but be killed on sight by any NPC or race that isn't Dark Elf or High Elf.

Abilities: Nephilim vision. You can see at night, so good as with night vision googles. You can see NPCs and all kinds of living things through walls. You have 50% faster movement speed than the other races. You have 25% more health.
You have an ability called appearance change which turns you into a human for 60 minutes bypassing any kill on sight drawbacks you get from religion.

You can swim even better than Iksar.
You need 100% less food and water than humans.

Drawbacks: 200% less exp than humans. Everyone who's not a dark elf or high elf is going to try and kill you because of Tunaruuk deity.

Playable classes:
All of them.

Tunaruuk religion lore:

Being torn between light and darkness you decide to serve the God of fatalism who made you impartial towards any living beings and make you choose the deity that lets the sun shine on good and evil beings.

Tunaruuk is letting go of all thoughts evil and ignoring all pain, choosing to live a modest life and be content with what you have. Not striving for more wealth or anything you believe in Tunaruuk who will give you everything you need. Believing in Tunaruuk you decide to let go of your control and leave it all to the one God Tunaruuk who created Norrath and everything else.

(I was just at my grandfathers birthday party and drank A LOT of alcohol. So excuse me.)

[SorenVC]

Tunaruuk is the God of fatalism that looks like a tuna fish. He is the fatalism God because he can only swim in one direction in the water. He ascends to heaven when you save him from drowning.

[caveslug]

Was that Barthorn? I know he did a warrior but it sounds like something he'd do afterwards...insane!

He did Warrior, then cleric, then started a rogue and got them to level 46 IIRC.
However he jumped over to Quarm, started a ranger I think. Not sure if he finished it, last I saw he was leveling another cleric.

[SorenVC]

Is Magician a good class for a complete newbie? I know you guys always say Enchanter is the best out of the three casters then maybe Wizard 2nd one but noone ever talks about the Magician? What's with that class? Cause I've taken a look at all classes now and I think I want to roll a High Elf Magician.

[SorenVC]

I changed my mind I may just want to go full Iksar. Not sure on the class yet.

[zelld52]

I changed my mind I may just want to go full Iksar. Not sure on the class yet.

To answer your first question - yes magician is extremely newbie friendly. Probably the most newbie friendly class. Your pet is strong especially at early levels, you don't need much gear, and your only role is DPS.

For iksar, monk is the most fun class in EQ. Monk has a great toolset with Mend, Feign Death, Sneak, excellent DPS and solid tanking ability. Pretty newbie friendly - but takes some practice to learn the tricks (ie: how to use feign Death to split packs of mobs into single pulls, how to sneak around places you're KoS, etc)

Necro is also extremely powerful, and also has an incredible toolset that includes Feign Death, lifetaps, a pet - and as you get higher levels necros get hands down the best spell in the game : Charm.


Iksar is tough for beginner because they're KoS virtually everywhere except for Cabilis. Use consider (c key or /con) on targets to see if it's safe to approach.


However, Cabilis and the surrounding areas can get you from 1-60 (with lots of time and effort) and you really don't need to go anywhere that you're not welcome, except to slaughter for exp.

[SorenVC]

To answer your first question - yes magician is extremely newbie friendly. Probably the most newbie friendly class. Your pet is strong especially at early levels, you don't need much gear, and your only role is DPS.

For iksar, monk is the most fun class in EQ. Monk has a great toolset with Mend, Feign Death, Sneak, excellent DPS and solid tanking ability. Pretty newbie friendly - but takes some practice to learn the tricks (ie: how to use feign Death to split packs of mobs into single pulls, how to sneak around places you're KoS, etc)

Necro is also extremely powerful, and also has an incredible toolset that includes Feign Death, lifetaps, a pet - and as you get higher levels necros get hands down the best spell in the game : Charm.


Iksar is tough for beginner because they're KoS virtually everywhere except for Cabilis. Use consider (c key or /con) on targets to see if it's safe to approach.


However, Cabilis and the surrounding areas can get you from 1-60 (with lots of time and effort) and you really don't need to go anywhere that you're not welcome, except to slaughter for exp.

Thanks. I'll make my first and main class an Iksar Necromancer because there's "An Iksar Hermit" in Cabilis and I consider myself somewhat of a hermit myself. Not very social. I have two questions left.

1 Where to go as an Iksar Necromancer? Field of Bone or elsewhere?
2 Where can I find a guide for a race/class combo if I want to level it up to level 60? Surely there exists some guides for certain race/class combos but how do I find them? What do I need to google search?

[kjs86z2]

Thanks. I'll make my first and main class an Iksar Necromancer because there's "An Iksar Hermit" in Cabilis and I consider myself somewhat of a hermit myself. Not very social. I have two questions left.

1 Where to go as an Iksar Necromancer? Field of Bone or elsewhere?
2 Where can I find a guide for a race/class combo if I want to level it up to level 60? Surely there exists some guides for certain race/class combos but how do I find them? What do I need to google search?

field of bone and then kurns

the wiki is your friend, lots of necro guides there

https://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Adventure

[Vexenu]

Thanks. I'll make my first and main class an Iksar Necromancer because there's "An Iksar Hermit" in Cabilis and I consider myself somewhat of a hermit myself. Not very social. I have two questions left.

1 Where to go as an Iksar Necromancer? Field of Bone or elsewhere?
2 Where can I find a guide for a race/class combo if I want to level it up to level 60? Surely there exists some guides for certain race/class combos but how do I find them? What do I need to google search?
You'll start in Field of Bone and want to stay there until level 12. Then move to Kurn's Tower (which is located in Field of Bone so easy to access) and stay there until around level 20. You will loot an absolute ton of bone chips during your time there, so make sure you have enough bags to save them all, as you will need them to summon your skeleton pet. When you leave Kurn's, head to nearby Warslik's Wood and set up at the Giant Fort. You can make a good amount of plat here by selling the weapons and armor the giants drop to vendors. Giants can take you to around 30ish, at which point you can stay in Warslik's but move into the cave entrance of Dalnir. Kill skulking brutes here and get to level 34.

At 34 you get a ton of great new spells which really open up your leveling options from there. This is a good level to consider leaving Kunark and exploring the other continents. For example, you can root rot guards in High Keep from 34-40 and make a ton of plat by selling their swords. Or fear kite hill giants in Rathe Mountains, which can sometimes drop over 50pp per kill.

[kjs86z2]

You'll start in Field of Bone and want to stay there until level 12. Then move to Kurn's Tower (which is located in Field of Bone so easy to access) and stay there until around level 20. You will loot an absolute ton of bone chips during your time there, so make sure you have enough bags to save them all, as you will need them to summon your skeleton pet. When you leave Kurn's, head to nearby Warslik's Wood and set up at the Giant Fort. You can make a good amount of plat here by selling the weapons and armor the giants drop to vendors. Giants can take you to around 30ish, at which point you can stay in Warslik's but move into the cave entrance of Dalnir. Kill skulking brutes here and get to level 34.

At 34 you get a ton of great new spells which really open up your leveling options from there. This is a good level to consider leaving Kunark and exploring the other continents. For example, you can root rot guards in High Keep from 34-40 and make a ton of plat by selling their swords. Or fear kite hill giants in Rathe Mountains, which can sometimes drop over 50pp per kill.

This is great advice.

If you're really feeling your oats you can also return to Kunark and practice your charm tactics in Kaesora at 34 (waiting until 36 will make this endeavor a lot easier). Beguile Undead, Call of Bones, and Root will help a lot here @ 34.

The Library area can be a bit tricky to get to if its your first time. Bind yourself outside the dungeon and when you're loaded up with fine steel / etc (or if you get in a tight spot) gate and its a quick run to Cab.

There is a safe spot at the Library camp. As you move into the camp from the tunnel coming from spiders, around the outside perimeter of the Library, there is a corner up against the wall/ramparts of lib that has no spawns and is 100% safe to med.

Once Library greens out you can move on down towards Xalgoz area. Master that until greened out, and finally take on Xalgoz himself for a piece of your HS key. This is a great necro right of passage that will develop the fundamentals necessary to succeed in Howling Stones later on which is far and away your fastest route to 60.

[Tann]

Iksar's have by far the best & easiest all Kunark leveling path, you'll always be close to Cabalis for spells/restock:

1-12 FoB
12-20 Kurns main level and upstairs
20-24 Kurns tunnel area below basement (where the other zone out is)
24-32 Iksar exiles in Swamp of No Hope
32-40 FoB Servants of Sythrax & Jesters
40+ kaesora shenanigans with charm or 40-44 Mines of Nurga (badgers deep in the dungeon)
44-51 Bloodgills!!
51-60 Howling Stones

[Gustoo]

A kunark only necro solo quest is pretty magic and a lot of people havent played those zones so much. Whatever path is least familiar is good. Sadly so much is gunna be solo that being a good caster is gunna be more classic.

[SorenVC]

I just got the free backpack from that Curscale Armor Quest NPC and bought 3 additional backpacks from a vendor. Now I have 4 backpacks and no money.

Is it actually good to buy 8 backpacks so you have a full inventory of backpacks? Can you put backpacks into your backpack like in SpongeBob or how do people manage their inventory in this game? 8 backpacks so your inventory is full is that good?

Or is there a better way to manage your inventory?

[Jimjam]

Backpacks only carry items up to large - be aware with 8 backpacks you will be unable to carry any giant items you find. Also consider you’re limited in carry capacity by strength as well as slots. You can’t put bags in bags. Iirc a large sewing kit can be used as a container for giant items?

[Duik]

Toolbox as well holds giant

[loramin]

What Jimjam said, but also inventory slots can hold clickable items. For instance, every non-Bard will want boots that increase run speed (Journeyman's Boots for most; Shaman get a faster version).

You can wear the boots, but most right-click them from inventory instead, because they have bad stats. Other inventory-clickable items include potions, root nets, or a Mage focus item (only Mages can equip them, but other pet classes can still use them from inventory).

On my characters I tend to use six bags, or rarely seven. I always leave a slot for my SoW potion or run speed boots, and typically I have a second clicky in another slot. With ten-slot bags that still lets me hold sixty items, which is usually plenty.

[Vexenu]

I just got the free backpack from that Curscale Armor Quest NPC and bought 3 additional backpacks from a vendor. Now I have 4 backpacks and no money.
Aim for carrying six or seven bags. Also get in the habit of looting absolutely everything off every creature you kill, then go and sell those items to the vendor. Make note of which fetch only a few copper pieces and which are worth several gold, then prioritize the latter in your hunting. Things like poison venom sacs, Iksar Targ shields and the "cracked staff" are much more valuable to vendors than a piece of spiderling silk, for example. Once you're able to start regularly vendoring those type of items, you should start acquiring a decent enough amount of platinum to allow you to level and buy all the spells, food and bags you need.

[SorenVC]

Aim for carrying six or seven bags. Also get in the habit of looting absolutely everything off every creature you kill, then go and sell those items to the vendor. Make note of which fetch only a few copper pieces and which are worth several gold, then prioritize the latter in your hunting. Things like poison venom sacs, Iksar Targ shields and the "cracked staff" are much more valuable to vendors than a piece of spiderling silk, for example. Once you're able to start regularly vendoring those type of items, you should start acquiring a decent enough amount of platinum to allow you to level and buy all the spells, food and bags you need.

So six large sewing kits is the best inventory management strat? Today I found three Iksar Targ Shields got over 3 platinum now... And a backpack full of bloodwater and earthworm munchs...

Are six large sewing kits really the best item to carry items in your inventory?

[loramin]

So six large sewing kits is the best inventory management strat? Today I found three Iksar Targ Shields got over 3 platinum now... And a backpack full of bloodwater and earthworm munchs...

Are six large sewing kits really the best item to carry items in your inventory?

They are the cheapest way to get as many Giant-sized slots as possible. More slots means fewer trips back to town to sell ... which means more time leveling and looting.

That being said, the large sewing kit only holds 8 items, weighs 3 stone, and has no weight reduction. Eevntually you can do better.

For instance, the Shralok Pack also holds 8 Giant items, but it only weighs 0.4 stone, and reduces the weight of items placed inside by 25%. Depending on your class, you can likely farm these packs yourself at level 22 or 23.

But there are lots of bags: https://wiki.project1999.com/Bags. The "gold standard" is the Bag of the Tinkers, with 10 giant slots, 1.0 stone weight, 100% weight reduction (although raiders can acquire an even lighter version).

[Jimjam]

I find a single large sewing kit is enough giant slots. Things like backpacks or quest combiners will give you enough other slots. I’d just see how you go - running out of slots vs encumberance changes a lot depending on gear, str, etc.

Im assuming you’re staying in or around cabilis.

[bcbrown]

4-6 backpacks is fine early on. Later, buy or camp shralok packs. Then there's bags in Lower Guk and Sol B that you can camp in your 40s.

If you find yourself looting a bunch of Giant items that don't fit in backpacks, then maybe buy a sewing kit.

[Goregasmic]

Yeah only giant items I came across from memory is rusty halberds, that undead cyclops skull for brewing and an OT hammer? I'm not saying they're the only ones but this isn't a big deal. I carry a single shralock pack for OT hammer, problem solved. Worst case scenario you'll have to let a few 2gp halberds rot.

[PatChapp]

Shralok packs aren't as easily camped as they used to be unfortunately. Recent patch made him only spawn in highpass. The little bonus is you camp a da idol while you try to farm a pack now,which sell easily in ec for ~500pp.
2 packs per hr used to be sort of common,now they are much more rare

[Goregasmic]

Shralok packs aren't as easily camped as they used to be unfortunately. Recent patch made him only spawn in highpass. The little bonus is you camp a da idol while you try to farm a pack now,which sell easily in ec for ~500pp.
2 packs per hr used to be sort of common,now they are much more rare

Yeah that spawn was fast and I think shralok popped 40% of the time or so. You could spend 2 hours there and leave with 9 bags. I thought we'd see a price hike post nerf but they still sell for like 100pp, not too bad even for a new player. I feel like lionhides are better even if only large stuff fits but a bit more of a hassle to get. End game you get a bunch of better giant WR options, some not too hard to acquire.