Is there any melee class that can challenge Monk for best solo

[Selene]

Is there any melee class that might be at least on par, if not better than, monk in terms of dungeon crawling solo or being a solo character at 60? I’m at a crossroads in terms of which of my classes to play and need to just pick one, now that they’re all 50+.

I’d like a class that has lots to do at 60, especially when it comes to dungeons and doing some solo artist stuff. Not a big raider.

Thank you

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Is there any melee class that might be at least on par, if not better than, monk in terms of dungeon crawling solo or being a solo character at 60? I’m at a crossroads in terms of which of my classes to play and need to just pick one, now that they’re all 50+.

I’d like a class that has lots to do at 60, especially when it comes to dungeons and doing some solo artist stuff. Not a big raider.

Thank you

You may want to clarify what you mean by "lots to do at 60". Even Monks will be somewhat limited in what they can solo at level 60 without raid gear.

Shadowknights are a great class for soloing and dungeon crawling as a melee character. Here is a video of me crawling from Seb entrance towards Disco.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mI_IJ_F1GCY

Didn't quite make it to disco in this video due to a mistake, but you can get an idea of what a Shadowknight dungeon crawl looks like.

[wagorf]

answer is pretty obvious when fd plays the biggest role in a melee's ability to dungeon crawl

[kjs86z2]

detoxx solo'd naggy so idk depends on your definition

but monk is undisputed king and the gap grows with gear

[Snaggles]

Most melee solo artist feats involve insane gear. If you aren’t a raider I wouldn’t even daydream about crawling seb or chardok sniping named spawns.

Roll an ench, shaman, necro, or Druid. If you want the best of those for most situations: Ench.

[PatChapp]

Quick answer no
Geared sk can do a lot,but still pales to an equally geared monk.

[kjs86z2]

Most melee solo artist feats involve insane gear. If you aren’t a raider I wouldn’t even daydream about crawling seb or chardok sniping named spawns.

Roll an ench or shaman if you want the best of those for most situations.

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[Selene]

Ok I should clarify by saying I am not a “hardcore” daily raider. I do still raid and intend to raid maybe 2-3 times per month. Over time I imagine I can get some decent raid gear, even if it’s slow.

Seems like the answer is “no” though, to my original question. Does this also apply to killing difficult nameds? I mean it seems obvious a monk can flop her way through a zone so it’s evident who can “crawl” better but what about actually fighting their way through and taking on a big mob?

Nice video DSM!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Ok I should clarify by saying I am not a “hardcore” daily raider. I do still raid and intend to raid maybe 2-3 times per month. Over time I imagine I can get some decent raid gear, even if it’s slow.

Seems like the answer is “no” though, to my original question. Does this also apply to killing difficult nameds? I mean it seems obvious a monk can flop her way through a zone so it’s evident who can “crawl” better but what about actually fighting their way through and taking on a big mob?

Nice video DSM!

Thanks! Be aware raid gearing a monk will generally take much longer than a Shadowknight/Paladin, especially as a casual raider. Monk equipment is generally more expensive DKP-wise, and more sought after.

So even though a fully raid geared Monk is indeed better than a Shadowknight/Paladin, you will probably get farther ahead of a Monk in terms of raid gear as a casual raider with a Shadowknight/Paladin.

[Snaggles]

Without burning expendables with marginal raid gear and self buffs, I might tip the advantage to a knight over a monk. Non-summoning a pally is solid with root but if that’s not a factor Drain Soul will heal faster than celestial cleansing. Just a matter of you have the mana to keep tapping.

If the monk can kill trash and named spawns (lesser dungeons) with less than 75% hps that’s a big advantage. Faster kills, bind wounding to 75%, mend every 6 minutes. With beads, a primal, and raid weapons they are crazy.

There are arguments for Rangers and Bards as well but they need more disclaimers. Who, what, where, how, etc.

Regardless, I’d rather use a charm class (or shaman) for tough killing. I camped my dragon bane herb and a few torp fights killing seahorses I switched to my Druid and life immediately became fun again.

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Fair :) . See above, I meant for charm stuff. If an animal or undead is around that’s mainly where the other two come in. Unless you are a BiS necro with a Willsapper playing some weird mini-game version of EQ like a melee.

[Naethyn]

If you're not spending dkp on a warrior its probably wasted.

[zelld52]

Even a monk requires pretty stellar gear to solo camp high level dungeon spawns. For exp grinding or mid level camps a monk has it way better thank any other melee by a mile, though.

[Trelaboon]

Most melee solo artist feats involve insane gear. If you aren’t a raider I wouldn’t even daydream about crawling seb or chardok sniping named spawns.

Roll an ench, shaman, necro, or Druid. If you want the best of those for most situations: Ench.

I’ve definitely crawled and solo’d much of Sebilis on my Pally including most of the named (C/E is hard without consumables, and King is impossible) but I’ve done a fair amount of the solo artist challenge. My gear is pretty good but nothing insane. I do have a primal, but otherwise, most of what I’m wearing could be had just by raiding fairly casually for a long period of time, or raiding in a raid guild for a year or so.

Being able to lull your way around the dungeon makes it really doable.

[kjs86z2]

Unless you are a BiS necro with a Willsapper playing some weird mini-game version of EQ like a melee.

ok UCF

[Snaggles]

I’ve definitely crawled and solo’d much of Sebilis on my Pally including most of the named (C/E is hard without consumables, and King is impossible) but I’ve done a fair amount of the solo artist challenge. My gear is pretty good but nothing insane. I do have a primal, but otherwise, most of what I’m wearing could be had just by raiding fairly casually for a long period of time, or raiding in a raid guild for a year or so.

Being able to lull your way around the dungeon makes it really doable.

I haven’t ventured into seb with my pally. Not the best gear but a passable tank for non raid stuff (5750 fully buffed with a rocksmasher and R9). Maybe with a dawncall weapon I’ll give it a shot. Thanks for the kick in the tail :)

ok UCF

This one weird trick / Norrath hates him

[Vivitron]

I have had more fun and success than I expected doing solo challenges on my bard. It's a tier behind monks for most relevant solo content, I'd say, but better than most people think.

[Snaggles]

I have had more fun and success than I expected doing solo challenges on my bard. It's a tier behind monks for most relevant solo content, I'd say, but better than most people think.

Great gear helps with a bard but the skill ceiling is what makes the class great. Smart people and fast clicks with that class is s-tier.

I have a 60 bard with marginal gear and even worse skill. It’s good to know your limitations in life, lol.

[Dundrige]

I think top-geared Paladins are pretty underrated here... Kilva's DS or ring 10 + Regal Band DS, a powerful spell set and capabilities for dungeon crawling, and plenty of situational items that help plenty (willsapper, fungi, Tuna sword (root), deepwater helm/bp for mana free heals, deepwater sleeves for mana free pacs, and so much more).