Grand Herbalist & Small Manisi Plant

[Barlu]

Did some digging here on the forums without much luck. Anyone that has farmed a few know the spawn % on Grand Herbalist and what a realistic drop % is on the small manisi plant?

Wiki says 20% spawn and 2% drop rate. Trying to get a feel for whether it would be worth camping. 2% drop rate would probably be a no. Thank you!

[Snaggles]

No hard facts on it but camped some other spawns. With a two spawn camp (PH or named) and a limited loot list it seems about on par with Overseer’s halfling mask. Which I’ve heard upwards of 40hrs and some lucky people with less. Compared to trying to get a Jeldorin off Battlemaster the odds seem much worse (3 spawn with 2 ultra rare on his table). I have a lot of friends with the herb and halfling mask, less making BM pay off.

I would expect no less than 40 hours. If that is a non-starter maybe not go down that road. Or you can leave the ench there and dabble when it’s free to maybe luck out. Or leave the monk there and hit up the Dok farmers and commission the LR’s. I bet 40-50k would get you one eventually.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I heard it was quite rare. Haven't camped it myself for that reason.

If it was more common, I'd imagine you would see more people selling loot rights. You see people selling Kennelmaster loot rights fairly often, for example.

[Barlu]

No hard facts on it but camped some other spawns. With a two spawn camp (PH or named) and a limited loot list it seems about on par with Overseer’s halfling mask. Which I’ve heard upwards of 40hrs and some lucky people with less. Compared to trying to get a Jeldorin off Battlemaster the odds seem much worse (3 spawn with 2 ultra rare on his table). I have a lot of friends with the herb and halfling mask, less making BM pay off.

I would expect no less than 40 hours. If that is a non-starter maybe not go down that road. Or you can leave the ench there and dabble when it’s free to maybe luck out. Or leave the monk there and hit up the Dok farmers and commission the LR’s. I bet 40-50k would get you one eventually.

Appreciate the advice and that’s what I was afraid of. Done the halfling mask before and did not enjoy it. This will probably be worse since the named kill seems a little harder as well. May try a few PHs here and there and hope to get really lucky. Thanks again appreciate the help.

[bcbrown]

I saw it rotting on green the other week.

[Snaggles]

I heard it was quite rare. Haven't camped it myself for that reason.

If it was more common, I'd imagine you would see more people selling loot rights. You see people selling Kennelmaster loot rights fairly often, for example.

One thing to keep in mind is the Grand Herbalist’s token prize is a 200-300p Jade Meditation Hoop. That makes mostly a commissioned or self-hunted target.

I see more people frantically trying to move halfling masks but they prob assumed they would get a cape and move on.

Appreciate the advice and that’s what I was afraid of. Done the halfling mask before and did not enjoy it. This will probably be worse since the named kill seems a little harder as well. May try a few PHs here and there and hope to get really lucky. Thanks again appreciate the help.

No problem! Mostly hunch with some word of mouth from friends. I could be wrong but would definitely mix in Alch/wiz so it’s less painful. Might end up with a shovel as well :)

[PatChapp]

Not rare for this to be a 100hr camp. Some people get lucky

[Troxx]

This is just a clicky to summon bandages of a sort or am I missing something?

If so bandages are cheap … seems like a lot of effort for something so unnecessary.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

This is just a clicky to summon bandages of a sort or am I missing something?

If so bandages are cheap … seems like a lot of effort for something so unnecessary.

It's generally for when you are in a location that is harder to get in/out of. As a simple example, Monks can't be bound in PoM. If they want to level in Rat Maze, they would need to rely on other players to get them bandages. That or pay 2k for a CoTH every time they run out. They can't use the dagger that summons bandages either.

I agree it's not really necessary anytime you can sneak buy bandages when doing things like killing guards.

[PatChapp]

I have one on my enchanter, didn't camp it. Buddy of mine used me to camp one for his monk and wound up getting 2 in a row,after 50+hrs ofcourse.
It's very convenient, at least

[Barlu]

This is just a clicky to summon bandages of a sort or am I missing something?

If so bandages are cheap … seems like a lot of effort for something so unnecessary.

You are not missing anything. Pretty niche use case, but good for a soloing Monk with limited bag space that doesn’t want to keep running out from wherever they are exping to buy bandages. Based on how long the camp is, it will never provide a return on your time. I don’t have much time to play anymore, so if I can scrounge 50k I would probably pay for loot rights.

I de leveled my Monk so would be nice to never have to buy a bandage while re leveling. Also, can’t hammer till 50 so makes getting out of some places slightly more time consuming.

To DSM’s point, if you are going to level for a long time at rat maz, my guess is your gonna pay for a locket bind so you can hammer out then get TL’d back.

[Snaggles]

At the state of the game having a lowbie porter loaded with probes, bandages, a cap to recharge, invis rings, with food/drink often makes it less painful. Anytime I cap out or hammer off a probe I make sure my char is restocked as best I can with a few gems to use for port tips.

Having a manisi plant is really cool. It’s less trashy than a drop xfer with 8 stacks of bandages. But that is usually still an option.

[Eisai]

So this isn't about necromancer Epic?

[Duik]

The fact a useful drop is also for an epic is, IMHO a bit broken. Peggy cloak frigzample. Stupid. The bard ore drop that is also for another quest is fucked up. We were trolled. Or ike others have said item devs never/rarely communicated with the quest devs.

[Snaggles]

The fact a useful drop is also for an epic is, IMHO a bit broken. Peggy cloak frigzample. Stupid. The bard ore drop that is also for another quest is fucked up. We were trolled. Or ike others have said item devs never/rarely communicated with the quest devs.

Drops two, one is common

https://wiki.project1999.com/Manisi_Herb

[Jimjam]

Summoned bandages are pretty sick. Spend weeks camping the dagger on my warrior in tofs. Maybe even months.... I got so many sorcerous bowls!

I was still getting some XP so i stuck around and ended up getting the second dagger in less than a week, and some crazy officer started demanding I give him one LOL.

Ended up that officer's unusual sense of entitlement was not a one off - he had stole a bunch of stuff from the guild, iirc including a fungi?

I think this was during Azure Guard, anyone remember the details, or is it best to let bygones be bygones? ;)

[Keebz]

if you are going to level for a long time at rat maz, my guess is your gonna pay for a locket bind so you can hammer out then get TL’d back.

I think you'd just kill yourself (duel or otherwise), do your groceries, and get rezed back. There's tons of pocket clerics up here.

Also, soloing at rat maze isn't actually great as a monk. There's tons of runners, and if someone else happens to be down there, you can easily not have enough spawns.

[Barlu]

At the state of the game having a lowbie porter loaded with probes, bandages, a cap to recharge, invis rings, with food/drink often makes it less painful. Anytime I cap out or hammer off a probe I make sure my char is restocked as best I can with a few gems to use for port tips.

Having a manisi plant is really cool. It’s less trashy than a drop xfer with 8 stacks of bandages. But that is usually still an option.

Good call this is probably the best option and I have a porter I don’t use that would be perfect for this. Plant would be cool but not worth the time investment.

Agree the rez back to PoM is a better option. Never really liked rat maze for any class but there are definitely better spots for a Monk. For the work from home crowd I’m sure it is nice to blow up a mob and afk/med back up.

[Lukile]

It took me exactly 100 spawn cycles before I saw the Small Manisi Plant drop.

71 PHs
29 Grand Herbalists

The Small Manisi Plant is on a separate loot table from the GH's main loot. He does not hold the plant in his hands so there is no way of telling if the GH has it until you kill him.

[Troxx]

Ewww … that’s 33.333 hours if you could instant death touch him on spawn. More like 46-50 hours if you factor in time to kill and set up.

Nah no thanks. Bandages are cheap, lightweight and available most places vendors exist.

Super duper niche item.

[Eisai]

But... If it came with the "Grand Herbalist" title...

Nothing is too much work for fashion!