Donation Rewards

[drplump]

Let use this thread to come up with ideas that can reward the reward the people who pay the server bills that don't affect overall game play.

My ideas:
-Higher petition priority
-Avatars and titles on forums for donating members only and/or special colored named on forums

[Cribanox]

I dont like higher petition priority, but maybe some kind of cosmetic change to someones forum name or soemthing might work.

[Tsuken]

unlock / melody for bards
add surefall glade port spells to druids

unlock shared bank

o wait that's in-game stuff :)

[CPTMULLER]

a little star next to your forum tag
avatar of your character
name color change in game

[Jify]

How about...
-Back rub from Rogean.
-Home cooked meal from Wenai.
-Grass mowed by Aeo...

I also need someone to dust, take out the trash, and finish a few reports/essays for me. :)

[Fawqueue]

Those are all good ideas Jify, but that's what kids are for (or if you don't have any of your own, your neighbor's kids are always available to underpay for overworking). I propose every $5 earns you a free 100% rez on any of your corpses. Not game breaking, certainly game improving, and you were going to bully your guild cleric into doing a 90% for free anyway. It's a win-win.

[Striiker]

Well, I don't imagine that the rewards will be much so it's not worth getting upset over it all. I think it will be something like some badge in the forums or at most, some option to have a title in you name in-game. Something simple..

The point we should focus on is that we should all make efforts to contribute on a regular basis (monthly). Just treat this as you would have in the old EQ days (or for any current generation MMO). If you want to play, you need to pay. It's great that paying is an option here but it's not realistic to expect quality services without money to sustain the environment. Remember, the servers need to be hosted somewhere, network access / bandwidth, equipment maintenance, etc.
I know that money can be tight but every bit counts... even $5.00 / player/month would help. We all want to play on servers which are stable and can handle the load so let's all do our part to encourage others to donate on a regular basis.

[Ferok]

allow boxing

I'd gladly put in my $20 a month :)

[Derazor]

allow boxing

I'd gladly put in my $20 a month :)

This. Id definitely start playing my toon again if I could box and I would put up some $ for sure.

[Aaron]

This. Id definitely start playing my toon again if I could box and I would put up some $ for sure.

Don't even start that shit in this thread.

[Ferok]

Don't even start that shit in this thread.

Why? It's classic.

;)

[Dac321]

This. Id definitely start playing my toon again if I could box and I would put up some $ for sure.

Witch!! I would pay to NOT have people 2 boxing.

[bionicbadger]

no boxing. no rezes. Nothing that affects gameplay.

I like the idea of a different colored name and a mark or something in the forums to note people that have donated.

If there is some in game toy that is no drop with no stats but a cool graphic, that would be ok too.

[Tallenn]

I was thinking some kind of in-game title, but controllable by the player whether or not it shows- some people might want to remain anonymous about their donations.

Also, maybe special titles or rights on the forum. Nothing on the forum will affect gameplay.

There's also the benefit we all already get: the server stays open!

[Ferok]

I was thinking some kind of in-game title, but controllable by the player whether or not it shows- some people might want to remain anonymous about their donations.

Also, maybe special titles or rights on the forum. Nothing on the forum will affect gameplay.

There's also the benefit we all already get: the server stays open!

Honestly, giving in-game titles out for donations cheapens in-game titles, IMO. Those should be for very special occasions only.

Boxing doesn't affect game-play adversely. No idea why people would care so much about this, assuming it's limited to those that donate regularly.

[shinobi wan kenobi]

Boxing doesn't affect game-play adversely. No idea why people would care so much about this, assuming it's limited to those that donate regularly.

So you want a world where one person is locking down each camp? Derp.

[Ferok]

So you want a world where one person is locking down each camp? Derp.

Depends on the camp. Many camps can be soloed regardless.

It wasn't any less of a problem in classic than it would be here. Can't remember having an issue with it there.

[Aaron]

Take your nonsense boxing requests to a different thread. It's a beaten-to-death topic and it's not happening. And it's especially not happening in exchange for bribery. This thread is for actual discussion of legitimate ideas.

[nilbog]

It wasn't any less of a problem in classic than it would be here. In 1999, with 0.01% of the players being able to afford/obtain multiple internet connections, multiple PCs and multiple accounts, I'd say it would be much more of an issue here. Some of that is speculation, but the percentage of players that had this setup prior to Luclin is negligible.

[Ferok]

Take your nonsense boxing requests to a different thread. It's a beaten-to-death topic and it's not happening. And it's especially not happening in exchange for bribery. This thread is for actual discussion of legitimate ideas.

Way to arbitrarily define concepts as "legitimate" and "bribery" based on your own personal feelings on them.

[Ferok]

In 1999, with 0.01% of the players being able to afford/obtain multiple internet connections, multiple PCs and multiple accounts, I'd say it would be much more of an issue here. Some of that is speculation, but the percentage of players that had this setup prior to Luclin is negligible.

Cable and DSL / routers were available in 1999 or shortly thereafter, and given the minimal system requirements that classic EQ ran on, I'd suggest that many people could do so. I was a poor college student and I had a pair of EQ-worthy machines and was boxing by early 2001.

Given, the number of people able to do so has certainly been inflated; but the number of people willing to play one account for free vs two for monthly donations would likely balance that.

[Aaron]

Way to arbitrarily define concepts as "legitimate" and "bribery" based on your own personal feelings on them.

bribery: the practice of offering something (usually money) in order to gain an advantage

legitimate: valid


Boxing isn't happening. And it's not happening in exchange for money. That's it. It's been made clear to everyone many times over.

[nilbog]

Cable and DSL / routers were available in 1999 or shortly thereafter, and given the minimal system requirements that classic EQ ran on, I'd suggest that many people could do so. I was a poor college student and I had a pair of EQ-worthy machines and was boxing by early 2001.

Me too. What I'm saying is the percentage of people that did, compared to the amount of people that played, was negligible. I actually REMEMBER the people that boxed, because of the infrequency. Aeolwind, you're one of them O.o

[Trimm]

In my opinion, any rewards for donations should be strictly on the forums only. *Any* sort of reward in-game, regardless of how small it might be will only cause more drama and bitching, and we all know how much the Devs enjoy forums drama.

do·na·tion
–noun
1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.

We should not expect anything in return for a donation, that's why it's called a donation. If the Devs do decide to give some sort of recognition, I think it could be a special colored forum name or some sort of benefactor tag, something along the lines of that. At most, maybe a sub-forum that only people who donate could screw around and feel important in.

[Aeolwind]

Nothing more entertaining than watching a cleric play a monk and try to figure out FD pulling.

SyriakJr "Inc 2"
Valiticus "Sweet, I'm LOM"
Nopie "Uh, dude, can you count?"
Valiticus "OMG, 2 more like 12"
SyriakJr "Woops"

[Ferok]

bribery: the practice of offering something (usually money) in order to gain an advantage

legitimate: valid


Boxing isn't happening. And it's not happening in exchange for money. That's it. It's been made clear to everyone many times over.

That's hardly a definition of bribery.

Furthermore, you have done little to invalidate boxing other than saying it's been discussed. It's been offered for discussion by the staff themselves, which leads me to believe that at very least an idea that is not completely off the table.

Anyway, thats it for me. Cheers.

[Striiker]

In my opinion, any rewards for donations should be strictly on the forums only. *Any* sort of reward in-game, regardless of how small it might be will only cause more drama and bitching, and we all know how much the Devs enjoy forums drama.

do·na·tion
–noun
1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.

We should not expect anything in return for a donation, that's why it's called a donation. If the Devs do decide to give some sort of recognition, I think it could be a special colored forum name or some sort of benefactor tag, something along the lines of that. At most, maybe a sub-forum that only people who donate could screw around and feel important in.

I agree Trimm. The donations are intended as a means of helping to provide material support for the servers which we are enjoying. I donate and expect nothing other than being able to play on a (hopefully) stable server. I suspect that the reward part is just some little way of directly thanking members who donated. I would prefer to see nothing in game (title or otherwise) with an option to display something in your name in the forums (if so desired). Plus, anything in game would be cheapened anyway. Anything in the game which makes one stand out should be something which they played long hours and had some luck to obtain. This is why it was always desirable to see Najena spawn (for the Flowing Black Robe) or to get some rare drop weapon or armor. Everyone looks the same in the game and standing out should be a reward for efforts in the game.
Let's all try to donate monthly to keep the server running as smoothly as possible.

[Aaron]

That's hardly a definition of bribery.

That's the exact definition actually.

It's been offered for discussion by the staff themselves, which leads me to believe that at very least an idea that is not completely off the table.

No. It is completely off the table. How do you not get that?

[Ferok]

In my opinion, any rewards for donations should be strictly on the forums only. *Any* sort of reward in-game, regardless of how small it might be will only cause more drama and bitching, and we all know how much the Devs enjoy forums drama.

do·na·tion
–noun
1. an act or instance of presenting something as a gift, grant, or contribution.
2. a gift, as to a fund; contribution.

We should not expect anything in return for a donation, that's why it's called a donation. If the Devs do decide to give some sort of recognition, I think it could be a special colored forum name or some sort of benefactor tag, something along the lines of that. At most, maybe a sub-forum that only people who donate could screw around and feel important in.

Once you start incentivising it, it really doesn't matter what the manner of incentive is. It's no longer a true donation.

However, incentivising it with anything that directly affects a person's abilities concerning the game becomes a legal concern, as they aren't allowed to charge for the product. Said incentivising then looks a lot like payment; it certainly would to SOE lawyers.

For this reason, I'd imagine they're legally unable to do anything other than give you some sort of title or something on the board, but I'm not a lawyer whether or not there's a loophole or not they could get through.

I actually offered the suggestion of allowing a single boxed alt with this in mind. I was expecting to be quickly shot down under this exact pretense. The fact that I wasn't thus shot down in this manner I find both surprising and intriguing.

[Ferok]

That's the exact definition actually.

That's at best a partial definition, as it also serves as a partial definition for patronage and barter. Bribery insinuates something deceitful, secret, or corrupting. You left that part out.

[Dac321]

Boxing can harm the community. It can damper the need/want of grouping which in turn can effect others from finding groups etc..

If you want to box play on Shards of Dalaya..

[xblade724]

Don't even start that shit in this thread.

For every 1¢ donated, you get to choose any in game item in the game for all 5 of your boxing accounts while juggling epic 2.0's it's the only fair way! You become a GM for every nickel donated and can get the /kill command for every 50 cents.

adfka gives you all weapons for petitioning priority ++ max level over 9000

[Aeolwind]

Once you start incentivising it, it really doesn't matter what the manner of incentive is. It's no longer a true donation.

However, incentivising it with anything that directly affects a person's abilities concerning the game becomes a legal concern, as they aren't allowed to charge for the product. Said incentivising then looks a lot like payment; it certainly would to SOE lawyers.

For this reason, I'd imagine they're legally unable to do anything other than give you some sort of title or something on the board, but I'm not a lawyer whether or not there's a loophole or not they could get through.

I actually offered the suggestion of allowing a single boxed alt with this in mind. I was expecting to be quickly shot down under this exact pretense. The fact that I wasn't thus shot down in this manner I find both surprising and intriguing.

Pretty much spot on. 2-boxing is a virtually dead issue on all fronts however. Life support is still on, but it's kicking strokes like a ball on a 3rd grade play ground, and we're leaving it that way for now. The overall health of the server is our concern.

[Rogean]

How about...
-Back rub from Rogean.
-Home cooked meal from Wenai.
-Grass mowed by Aeo...

I also need someone to dust, take out the trash, and finish a few reports/essays for me. :)

So not only do we spend hours a day working on the server, we would have to cater to people who help keep it running?

I realize its a joke, but it shows a mindset people have that they think we somehow are indebted to those who support the server. We aren't. We thank everyone who donates a lot as it does help keep the server running and us working to improve it but we benefit none whatsoever from the money, it all goes into hosting costs.

[Crone]

Ouch. It stings everytime I read it.

[Aeolwind]

-Grass mowed by Aeo...



Be there shortly with a 50 gallon drum of Roundup and 50 pounds of salt. We'll go for that "new" yard look, Fallow. :D

[Crone]

What if you were to sell pdf files of a certificate that has your character name, and states something along the lines of being a proud member of the Project 1999 server? Could you take that money?

I'd gladly pay $20 for something like that! I'm not paying for the server, or anything EQ. I'm paying for my certificate.

[Derazor]

What if you were to sell pdf files of a certificate that has your character name, and states something along the lines of being a proud member of the Project 1999 server? Could you take that money?

I'd gladly pay $20 for something like that! I'm not paying for the server, or anything EQ. I'm paying for my certificate.

A certificate to box would be worth $40 for sure AND thereby emulating the experience of some people being able to afford to box and others not. Not to mention generating sexy revenues for admins and mods. Oh yes.*errcoughcough* I mean just paying for the time spent on the dev changing that account restriction to two concurrent IP per login. Paying for time has always been the golden loophole in EQ.

[Crone]

I'm not saying I'd pay for a certificate to box. I'd pay for a certificate, that the Devs so tirelessly created for me, and I want to pay them directly for their hard work into making my certificate.

[Dac321]

"Oh look at me, I hassa fancy Title, I muss be important.."

[Jete]

Id gladly stop playing my toon if we allowed boxing, My largest issue with other EMUs is just that.

[Crone]

Id gladly stop playing my toon if we allowed boxing, My largest issue with other EMUs is just that.

I'm quite a few others feel the same way.

Funny thing is, as the server gets more popular, the need to box diminishes because you can just find others easily enough to group with.

[Derazor]

http://s3-llnw-screenshots.wegame.com/6-8077475916736421/8077475916736421_l.jpg

[Tripleply]

This is easy.

Female players of this server need to donate naked shots of themselves to be posted in a closed forum.

Males who donate X amount to Project1999 get access to those forums.

We would have paid for a new server and the hosting costs for a few years within an hour.

Tripleply for president 2012.

[Scrooge]

As per Hasbinbad's suggestion, I want raid mobs on a silver platter!!! It better be REAL SILVER too!

[Murferoo]

Forum designation of Donator.

Nothing else.

[Dac321]

Isn't having an amazing Classic server good enough? Seriously, we need titles? Who are we all trying to impress? Definitely not our girlfriends by having one.

[Deanob]

Isn't having an amazing Classic server good enough? Seriously, we need titles? Who are we all trying to impress? Definitely not our girlfriends by having one.

My girlfriend seems to be impressed actually.

[xblade724]

What if we rewarded mass donators with official project 1999 buckets

http://genuinechris.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bucket.jpg

[Zithax]

-2boxing
-if enough people donate per guild they get their own set of raidmobs popped when they want each week (or 3 days w/ maestro and draco)
-maybe give boots w/ clicky SoW
-horse mount so we can run and med
-open PoK as a 'donator only zone' and have special vendors there, soulbinder, maybe some sort of badge vendor where you can buy badges for plat, and buy unique server only gear or planar gear or something
--have named mobs drop these badges all around norrath so non donators can sell them and donators can farm them. this way everybody benefits.
-custom zones with new raids tuned to classic stats
-maybe design a unique ui for donators
-prefix title "Donator Zithax"
--suffix title "Zithax the Classic" "Zithax the Supporter"
-give ppl in game item for $$ maybe have a scale like "if u donate $5 u get a piece of planar (non bp) $10 gets u planar bp, $20 gets u GEBs, $50 gets u rubi bp / manastone or something

just ides plz dont flame me just trying 2 help

[L2Phantom]

Donating for any tangible item in game would kill off my interest in this server so fast it would make your head spin. I'm sure I'm not alone.

[Ghesta]

Cable and DSL / routers were available in 1999 or shortly thereafter, and given the minimal system requirements that classic EQ ran on, I'd suggest that many people could do so. I was a poor college student and I had a pair of EQ-worthy machines and was boxing by early 2001.

I love the self ownage.
"I didn't box in 1999 so let me do it now!"

Does Ferok realize that he JUST SAID he didn't box in 1999 in the same breath as asking to be allowed to do it now?

[Rogean]

http://genuinechris.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/bucket.jpg

Http://www.rogean.com/images/walrusbucket2.png

[Rania]

Personally I think just still being able to play on this server is reward enough:)

[Tsuken]

lol @ bucket.

Maybe an item you can put in the charm slot? O i got it! Fireworks :) charm with random clicky fireworks effect.

[Tallenn]

I think maybe some folks (myself included) have been thinking of this the wrong way. You've already donated, and are trying to think of what you would like to reward you for it. I did it myself.

Those that have donated already realize the real reward: a continued server. The idea here is "what can we offer that will get MORE people to donate?"

That said, some kind of a "Server Supporter" tag on the forums would be nice.

[drplump]

When I say higher priority queue I mean setting up a $5.00 a month auto pay "subscription" to the future of the server. This server is a lot like open source you cant sell the product itself but you can sell services related to it. If some other guy getting his corpse out from under world before me means we get a extra co-located box just for the top 10 most popular zones I am fine with that.

[Dac321]

Http://www.rogean.com/images/walrusbucket2.png

Lol... Where can I get my official Project 1999 bucket?

[Obama]

If you want a star next to your name, you are donating for the wrong reasons.















And I hope you die of AIDs.

[Ferok]

I love the self ownage.
"I didn't box in 1999 so let me do it now!"

Does Ferok realize that he JUST SAID he didn't box in 1999 in the same breath as asking to be allowed to do it now?

I was still in high school in 1999. This was a retort to the concept that very few people had the ability to box 10 years ago. My point is, that even as a student with no job, I was still able to box just 2 years later. Therefore, it stands to reason that someone in a slightly better position would probably be able to do so in 1999.

I had DSL in 1999, I just didn't have two PCs until 2001. If I was a working professional (such as I am now) in 1999, I wouldn't have had any problem fielding two PCs back then.

I understand that it wasn't particularly common back then. But even when I retired from EQ after GOD it wasn't especially common. I was one of maybe 2 or 3 people in a top server guild that boxed regularly... whenever that was. 2004 or 2005 maybe.

[Excision Rottun]

Hai guyz.

This is my roXXor 8 boXXor setup.

Can I has box on this server plox?

http://i43.tinypic.com/2gww321.jpg

http://flying-hellfish.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/8dab.jpg

[Virtuosos]

if you want to feel special for donating, make a post saying you donated and let people say "K THX!!"


I for one donated, dont care who knows, dont care for anything special, just want this server to stay up and for the pressure of dropping 180$ monthly lessened to the dev's....we cant technically pay them for hosting this server, but making it where they dont have to pay out-of-pocket cash is a pretty good payment in itself.

[Ferok]

Hai guyz.

This is my roXXor 8 boXXor setup.

Can I has box on this server plox?

http://i43.tinypic.com/2gww321.jpg

Hahahahahaha. That's fantastic.

Playing 8 seems a little rediculous. Playing 3 was stressful for me (though having to alt-tab on my main machine makes it more difficult). Playing 2 though is pretty damn easy, regardless of class really.

[JaVeDK]

I didn't read the entire thread, so I apologize if this was already brought up. I just wanted to add a different point to the argument, namely that rewarding people in-game services for donations is in fact legally the same thing as selling them, thus making money off other peoples work (Sony), and thereby infringing on their rights.
I doubt if they would care enough, or this would make enough of a difference, for them to actually take legal action, but why run the risk?

Board privileges, such as avatars, are more of a grey area and would probably be ok.

[Muldoon]

Don't you guys get sick of this altruistic, lick lick suck suck bullshit?

Nobody is ASKING for rewards or incentive to donate. If you would check the thread called "Donation Status", then you would know the Devs are planning to implement some sort of incentives program already.

The focus of this thread was to generate ideas for what the Devs could do that would interest us, as opposed to just making something up without feedback. Hell, it may not matter at all what anybody wants, but that's the nice thing about this community - people sure will vocalize what they want.

So just cut the crap about "stop expecting something out of it", because obviously people are already donating now without it out of their appreciation of the server.

[guineapig]

I want ... no I demand gnomish fireworks!!!

[Ferok]

I want ... no I demand gnomish fireworks!!!

Now we're talking!

[Zexa]

I don't know if Sam still plays, but last I heard he was up to 24 boxes.

[Gorgetrapper]

How about the choice of a clicky illusion item that can go in the ammo slot with no stats or anything, just and illusion that also causes no faction changes (gaining or losing while attacking npcs as well). Cosmetic change, with no real "value". Of course, such items would be no drop.

[Excision Rottun]

I don't know if Sam still plays, but last I heard he was up to 24 boxes.

This is true, but he is on WoW now...and last I heard still doesn't have his team up to 70 or w/e the level cap is...after multiple years.

But check out that insane burst DPS yo!

[Crone]

All shamans I believe.

[Finawin]

+1 for nodrop, no faction changing, illusion clickies.

If there was an added timer on the clicky like 30minutes for 5 minute duration. (to prevent its use as a junkbuff item for raiding)

[Excision Rottun]

+1 for nodrop, no faction changing, illusion clickies

I love illusions probably more than most, had every possible in-game obtainable one for my Bard on live aside from the Troll cloak since I didn't play during the OoW launch events.

But this idea has shades of the Legends of Norrath promotion....which this server needs nothing like.

Bad idea, and like others have said as soon as you offer an in-game reward based on Sony's intellectual property for donations, you are setting yourself up for lawsuits and/or cease and desist orders.

[Tsuken]

i was thinking about illusions, but that has too much effect on other people's classic experience. You didn't have that many people walking around with different illusions.

I still think it should just be fireworks, if there is anything going to be given in game.

[Bayleo]

I'd honestly say that GMs should give out titles for generous donations. Like "Soandso The Benefactor". That way they get in game props for being a part of keeping the server alive. Nobody is going to begrudge a title, amirite?

[maultar]

GM Island Tours!

[ooantipostoo]

This is what happens if you allow boxing.


http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/07/wow_boxing_pcs.jpg

http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/07/wow_boxing_chairs.jpg

Right now you're probably asking yourself "Girlfriend?" That or, "WTF?!" According to a poster on the Dual-Boxing.com forums, he and his partner are running a 47 computer set up when they get their WoW on, including one server to control the madness.


Maybe allow donators to dye there armor? Doesnt really effect game at all and people will feel like they got something out of it?

[Spud]

Maybe allow donators to dye there armor?


god, no!

[President]

god, no!

Sup Spud, hows your manastone doin?

[grindle]

I would just like to say up front i like the server and i appreciate all the work the Dev and GMs do to allow people to play here but having said that , with money as tight as it is right now if i had the money to donate for a EQ server i for one would go ahead and donate for live EQ where everything works. I know that is going to be a very unpopular statement and i fully expect to need to break out the asbestos underwear to survive the uber flames that are coming lol .. so in the words of the Human Torch FLAME ON!!!

[Tenpin]

no donation awards please. I think you lose credibility in many people's mind if you can buy or donate for items.

[Rogean]

no donation awards please. I think you lose credibility in many people's mind if you can buy or donate for items.

Hey guys I post without reading first.

[Rogean]

Some ideas here are decent and will be used, but we haven't gotten a whole lot of great ideas. Ingame titles are a good example of something we will probably do, but more like a small Prefix (Like "$"), and not any lastname titles. Keep coming up with ideas like that that aren't empowering.

[Zithax]

Forum title np. "P99 Perpetrator"

it sounds dangerous

[Hasbinbad]

In game titles should be at a high price point.

My suggestion is to make it something cool instead of "$," "Lord" and "Lady" would work extremely well imo. You could have a policy that if a player reaches a cumulative price point of $100+ in donations (for example) within a one-year period, he or she get's the "Lord/Lady" prefix for a 1 year period after reaching that level.

This system would work well with lesser rewards for individual donations, and would give an additional drive to keep donating over time to eventually get that super cool title. Alternatively, it would tip the balance for those capable of donating larger sums at once; perhaps they would throw down a C for that title. $10 here and $5 there is nice, but I think you guys would do very well to make this exclusive enough so that EVERYONE doesn't have it, yet accessible enough so that over time, anyone who really does want it can get it.

[Hasbinbad]

Multi-Stat Buff Potions:
Stackable, +20 to all, duration 1 hour. 6pack = $5
Illusion Potions:
Duration 2 hours, lasts through zoning, Regular/Advanced/Premium (playerraces/commonmob/raremob). 6pack = $5/$10/$25 (mix and match order)
Stat Reset:
Place order with desired stat setup. 1 time = $25
Name Change: (flame on!)
Place order with desired name. 1 time = $50
Custom Stein:
Maybe a different model of stein, maybe "moggok" model, no stats, all/all, clicky summon some specific kind or even better a random type of alcohol 10 second cast time with a cool particle effect. 100 charges = $10 or Unlimited charges = $50
Item Renames and Custom Icons:
Renames are something you used to be able to earn with quest-points in many MuDs back in the dizzy. From simple things like "Hasbinbad's Crystalline Spear" to sets of "Nethervoid Shadow Walker Platemail Greaves." Icon changes would not change how your item looks on your character, but just to customize your icons when you see your inventory or inspect someone. 1 rename or icon = $15

I could go on and on..

[JaVeDK]

Being able to purchase stuff that will help you in-game is an incredibly bad idea in my opinion, and a very slippery slope. Also, as I stated earlier, this would for sure be infringing on the rights of Sony. Stick with board titles - and perhaps even in-game titles, but stay away from custom items/potions/buffs/services.

[Gorgetrapper]

Infringing on the rights of sony? You're insane. The money is being donated to keeping the server run, and the items given in return are not sold, but also given as a reward. Now what WOULD be infringing on the rights, would be if Rogean charged us to play here.

[JaVeDK]

It doesn't matter if the items are "rewarded" for donations or sold. Speaking as a 3rd year law student I can assure you, that there is little to no legal difference between this and selling them. Also whether the money goes to maintaining the server or the developers own pockets is completely irrelevant.

[Tiax]

I love the idea of being able to buy titles such as 'Lord' and 'Lady'. Other examples like Baron/Baroness, Duke, Vicount etc.

[Goobles]

You guys are like zombies... you need to remove their heads in order to actually 'kill' them.

There was a poll taken NOT TOO LONG AGO I MIGHT ADD, and the numbers that con you motion was astronomical. They literally dwarfed your pro's into the chode that they are.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2738

^ that's the thread ^

[LazyFuj]

Donating is just that, DONATING. You don't expect shit if you donate :P

[Rogean]

Illusion potions, maybe.
Stat buffs / exp potions, negative

[Rogean]

The illusion potion idea is good, but I would probably do it like..
x amount of money for a potion of any playable race that your class would be able to start as
x+ amount of money for a potion of any playable race
maybe x++ amount of money for a potion of obtainable illusions.. skeleton, etc..

limited charges, probably 2 or 3

[Hasbinbad]

The illusion potion idea is good, but I would probably do it like..
x amount of money for a potion of any playable race that your class would be able to start as
x+ amount of money for a potion of any playable race
maybe x++ amount of money for a potion of obtainable illusions.. skeleton, etc..

limited charges, probably 2 or 3
IMO, you guys could get quite a bit for PoS fairy model pots, large-model / small model planar mobs (kiraikuei, turmoil toads), efreeti model pots even..
People would use them for events or meetings and crap, and you could make them exclusive awards for your larger donators.

BTW I was thinking about the Lord/Lady titles.. $100 seems like a great price point for that if implemented, but what about the people that donate larger sums?

$1000 cumulative donations over a characters lifetime = ingame prefix "Saint."

Saint Hasbinbad Bearjew the Dragonslayer

Too bad I could never afford this! haha, but some of you daddy-fat-sacks already do donate in large chunks so I know this would be attainable over the course of this server!

[Finawin]

That's the best idea, IMO

It doesn't change anything really in mechanics, and is easy to add.

People whining about it? *shrug* they're going to whine about a lot more than that if something that minor bugs them.

[Tenpin]

Hey guys I post without reading first.

Is being able to read a prerequisite here? sorry eggheads :p

I agree with titles idea. I played Rubies of Eventide after quitting EQ shortly after pop. Good game, with lots of similarities to eq. It was free to play with donor status. Title, special cloak (no special stats, just unique graphics) and also a special zone with all crafting supplies. Good ideas minus the special zone for crafting.

[amaterasu]

I hope the higher petition priorities are not being considered.
Here is my reasoning:

In a dispute between two players where a gm is being asked to intervene, objectivity should be the main goal.

When (1) the GM is aware that the petitioner has been placed on a list for donating X amount; and (2) the player is aware that the gm knows he has donated +X amount, the player may be expecting special treatment and the gm may rule subjectively, even without intending to.

On live, accounts would be given a flag only visible to the gm after negative behavior, and the flag would affect the gm's judgment immediately if the gm received a petition from or about that player, even though the situation where the player earned the flag may have had nothing to do with the current situation in question.

[Exilium]

In game ability that grants an 18 second SoW to the player. Reuse timer once an hour, a little some thing that might help a donator out of a bad spot but nothing that would drastically alter traveling or game mechanics.

[Trimm]

Some ideas here are decent and will be used, but we haven't gotten a whole lot of great ideas. Ingame titles are a good example of something we will probably do, but more like a small Prefix (Like "$"), and not any lastname titles. Keep coming up with ideas like that that aren't empowering.

If you are going to do in-game titles, what about the class titles that came with luclin/AA's? I always thought those titles were pretty cool, and it would be instantly recognized that "Hey, that guy donated a lot to the server".

Example: A monk who donates $X = Baron, $Y = Brother and $Z = Sensi. Fill in X, Y, Z for whatever dollar amount you see fit.

[Scapula]

It would be kind of nice for prefix titles, since these will never be added from AA's.

Lady, Lord, Sir, Mrs, Ms, Mr, or some such simple titles. Nothing too fancy though ( i.e. no Lord of the Heavens, Destroyer of Worlds, etc )

[bionicbadger]

Or conversely giving everyone who doesn't donate the prefix "Cheap Bastard"

[Jeebus]

I agree with AA titles, I too really liked them.

[Intricus]

Show favoritism to people who donate? Let people who donate break the rules by 2-boxing, and doing other various things others can't?

...let's keep real life office politics out of this fantasy online game, please. Thank You.

[Joessins]

My idea:

-Able to have an apostrophe in your sure name.

[Akim]

It would be kind of nice for prefix titles, since these will never be added from AA's.

Lady, Lord, Sir, Mrs, Ms, Mr, or some such simple titles. Nothing too fancy though ( i.e. no Lord of the Heavens, Destroyer of Worlds, etc )

here here! (not that I've donated)

[mixxit]

could you setup the magelo thing that's floating around the eqemu boards? maybe a few dollars and you get to show off your character for a month? pretty low bandwidth and does not affect in game

[Izzni]

could you setup the magelo thing that's floating around the eqemu boards? maybe a few dollars and you get to show off your character for a month? pretty low bandwidth and does not affect in game
I think secrets mentioned that thing was ridden with SQL Injection security holes.

[Intricus]

... If anyone who wants in-game items, titles, equipment, or anything else related to the game for real life cash, they can go play WoW, or live EQ (Lots of interesting things in Marketplace now, for SoE to make profit off of). Please, let's keep this kind of BS out of PJ '99.

[goodthink]

I think an IP exception for $5 would be a cool thing, maybe even $10.

Other things could be custom in-game titles, like 'Serwe the Vile'. I had a title on live, always fun to have people think you're a spawned boss.

[Finawin]

I think an IP exception for $5 would be a cool thing, maybe even $10.

No.
use the search function
RTFM

[mixxit]

I think secrets mentioned that thing was ridden with SQL Injection security holes.

i meant as a regular daily dbdump than direct access to the server db - definitely would be a target for being hacked if that was the case!

[Jeebus]

First off: I know you devs have a lot on your plate. But I was curious if there was any more thought on donation rewards.

I read the thread on the announcements and saw you guys have gotten a lot of donations w/out offering rewards. Which is awesome, but something like illusion potions / AA titles would be really nice.

[Lonedrahon25]

No no no, and NO. Donation rewards in any way. NO

[Tudana]

this is how it all starts.....

[Hasbinbad]

Multi-Stat Buff Potions:
Stackable, +20 to all, duration 1 hour. 6pack = $5
Illusion Potions:
Duration 2 hours, lasts through zoning, Regular/Advanced/Premium (playerraces/commonmob/raremob). 6pack = $5/$10/$25 (mix and match order)
Stat Reset:
Place order with desired stat setup. 1 time = $25
Name Change: (flame on!)
Place order with desired name. 1 time = $50
Custom Stein:
Maybe a different model of stein, maybe "moggok" model, no stats, all/all, clicky summon some specific kind or even better a random type of alcohol 10 second cast time with a cool particle effect. 100 charges = $10 or Unlimited charges = $50
Item Renames and Custom Icons:
Renames are something you used to be able to earn with quest-points in many MuDs back in the dizzy. From simple things like "Hasbinbad's Crystalline Spear" to sets of "Nethervoid Shadow Walker Platemail Greaves." Icon changes would not change how your item looks on your character, but just to customize your icons when you see your inventory or inspect someone. 1 rename or icon = $15

I could go on and on..

Donation Based Lottery System:
$1 donations buy you a (very small) shot at getting one of the better donation rewards. Buy as many as you want, weekly or monthly drawing.
Forum Signature Pictures:
$5 a month buys you the right to have a picture in your signature area (under your posts). Obviously, the size would need to be limited. $60 buys you a lifetime sig.
Custom Trinkets:
$10 buys you an item that doesn't do anything at all, but that the player can link for teh lulz. Maybe a selection of different icons should be available.
Custom Emotes:
$20 buys you the ability to author a (approved) custom emote only available to your character.
Bag Renames / Custom Icons:
For bank organization, inventory organization, links and teh lulz. $2 per individual icon/name change, $3 for both (on the same bag), $40 for an 16-pack of icon/name changes.
Player-Usable System Messages:
Especially after global /ooc is taken out, this would be an awesome donation reward. Make whatever message you want stand out from the crowd! Announce something to the server with authority! Very nice, but use it wisely, coz each charge costs $10!
Custom Alcohol:
$10 per stack of 20. Have a favorite cocktail? Want to show your high-end pride? Want to emulate your life and glugluglug on some Silver Bullet? Customize the name of your DoC, so that people can see your style!
Time With A GM:
I would think that I would pay for the undivided attention of one of the top server GM's. Of course, refusal to answer sensitive questions and obviously no favoritism. Perhaps the interview would be published if the player liked. $20 for 1 hour in vent or chat (maybe limited to 1 time per 2 month period or something), where the GM actually addresses each concern the player has. Players couldn't really expect to get answers for idiotic questions, and if they persist the GM would have the option of ending the interview. For serious players who genuinely want to shoot the shit, this would be an awesome option. This may seem like "petition favoritism," but while petitions could be addressed in this way, the person is paying a high price for a one-off time block, and this wouldn't affect normal gameplay.
Temporary Style Gear:
Items that disappear after a certain amount of time (maybe have a parent item that summons items that disappear on logoff). Wearable style items with NO STATS that make your character stand out from the crowd for a set amount of time. $20 for a 2 charge summoning item which would summon an entire set of the desired gear. Maybe even have different donation brackets for "cooler" style gear.

[BuzWeaver]

Let use this thread to come up with ideas that can reward the reward the people who pay the server bills that don't affect overall game play.

My ideas:
-Higher petition priority
-Avatars and titles on forums for donating members only and/or special colored named on forums

As you may have seen on certain forums people who donate get special icons/graphics/insignias under their Screen Names. Perhaps VBulletin will alllow that as well?

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9210/example1gq.jpg






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[Eastwood]

If my donations go to keeping this server up, and also, onto a data server that doesn't epically fail on a nightly basis, I'll be very happy :)

[fastboy21]

some thoughts:

1. public acknowledgement of players (by a thread on the boards) of those who have donated...with amount or without depending on player request.

2. special forum title

3. in game title for person who donates most in a month or year.

4. dinner with rogean (rogean pays)

i think its a good idea as long as it doesn't involve in-game items...and certainly doesn't involve any meaningful in-game items. fireworks, illusions potions (no faction), etc don't rlly bother me...but its a slippery slope we might do better to just stay off of.

[Intricus]

some thoughts:

1. public acknowledgement of players (by a thread on the boards) of those who have donated...with amount or without depending on player request.

2. special forum title

3. in game title for person who donates most in a month or year.

4. dinner with rogean (rogean pays)

i think its a good idea as long as it doesn't involve in-game items...and certainly doesn't involve any meaningful in-game items. fireworks, illusions potions (no faction), etc don't rlly bother me...but its a slippery slope we might do better to just stay off of.

Sure, reward anyone who is generous enough to donate with 1 and 2, and questionably 4, with out-of-game rewards or titles, such as special titles that can be used on this forum, unique fonts for forum names, unique avatars, etc, etc....but NO IN GAME REWARDS! If you want that, go play live EQ, or WoW.

[maultar]

Could it be possible to add items in the game or modify an existing item (like Dark Prince Regent Armor) and make it have 0 stats but wearable by anyone. That way, as a reward, a caster could wear plate armor just for looks. Or tanks who can wear a no stat robe that looks like robe of the oracle etc...

My short time as a GM on the alternative server I notice you can change items in the databsse. Just don't know if you can Save As a newly named item.

[Volga]

How about additional shared bank slots? Would make moving those CB/Derv belts quicker =) While not being game altering.

[mitic]

rewarding donations with items of any kind would bring soe into action for sure

best (and savest) would be no rewards at all

[ssyrax]

I donate to the server reguarly, but I am against Donation rewards of anything in game period. If you want to give something to people on the forums, then I'm all for it, but i think it should end there.

[Velothi]

Forum Signature Pictures:
$5 a month buys you the right to have a picture in your signature area (under your posts). Obviously, the size would need to be limited. $60 buys you a lifetime sig.

Like ideas like this and having a custom title on the forums for donating; has absolutely no effect on the game, and won't give SOE any additional reason to step in and shut down the project if that's a concern.

[Yellow]

I like the idea for a title in game... maybe Donor? as the title?

[Thorjorkill]

My suggestion for donations, is to leave them just that, a fucking donation you dumbasses. You get to play a game you love, that will not be revived in a P1999 form by SOE or "the other project" EVER.

You already are being rewarded.

What, because its not a reward specifically directed towards YOU individually, you want to feel special for giving the team coin, because new servers, bandwidth, hosting, and their time is not reward enough?

Get over yourself. If anything, Rogean should put up a targetted bandwidth/hosting/hardware cost per month for everyone to see, and if the cost target is not hit, he shuts down until they are. Hows that for a reward?

[maultar]

Donation incentives are forthcoming, and those who have already donated will receive them as well. We are still deciding on what to award donations with, but rest assured we will not be awarding ingame items or game changing / advantage-giving rewards.

Thanks.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4266

Looks like the idea for a reward was Rogeans to begin with, the thread is merely for bouncing ideas. Suggest a nice warm BJ dude. Relax

[Thorjorkill]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4266

Looks like the idea for a reward was Rogeans to begin with, the thread is merely for bouncing ideas. Suggest a nice warm BJ dude. Relax

I understand completely, and the amount of "I wannas" around here just looking for freebies had nothing to do with it right?

[maultar]

Now that's possible. Probably the case, and Rogean feels that he doesn't wanna reply the way you did and lose such donations. And to be honest the more I think about it you are right. Just the delivery was harsh. :P

If he wants to proceed with a reward then forum titles and maybe in game fireworks or temporary things is all I'd suggest. Again thats more "work" in an already stacked pile. I say no rewards of any kind just because of the overhead. Unless we start getting some of the people who want rewards volunteering for being a forum moderator with limitations. Or offering to be a GUIDE in game and hand out fireworks and whatnot.

[jilena]

I have this crazy idea for donation rewards.

Check this:

We get to play the closest thing to classic EQ there is.

[Velothi]

I have this crazy idea for donation rewards.

Check this:

We get to play the closest thing to classic EQ there is.

For me personally, yes, that'd be a good enough reward, and there may very well be enough people donating regularly based just off that to keep the server up and running just fine.

However, there are probably a lot of people that need some sort of extra incentive to donate, and something non-game-changing could provide that incentive. Never underestimate peoples need for a bigger e-peen. Finding something low-overhead like a forum title or upgraded sig permissions would be fairly easy I think, and could be done by any volunteer forum admin (maybe mod?).

Alternatively, if there are NOT enough people donating without extra incentive to keep the server running, they could always take the server down for a bit each time funds run low and watch donations roll in like they apparently did last week :)

[maultar]

Yeah maybe Rogean should post some spreadsheets and whatnot. I know nobody likes to lay out that kind of info but some people just need to see the numbers, might make them say oh, maybe I should donate. I still have yet to myself but my wife keeps paying off old bills thinking it's a good thing towards trying to get a car loan. :P The 30th being payday I will send some.

Do any of you donate via credit card? Or paypal only? Credit card seems risky, not that I don't trust the guys but is it secure etc?

[Velothi]

Truth - just seeing at least a progress bar like people have suggested would be a great incentive.

[Rogean]

The problem with posting numbers is then you get a whole group of people saying "You should have done THIS instead of THIS to lower costs" or "You should change that to this" and I have to explain all my reasons for every purchase we make.

[toddfx]

Here's one: Allow us to play Everquest in a free, classic evironment

[Thorjorkill]

The problem with posting numbers is then you get a whole group of people saying "You should have done THIS instead of THIS to lower costs" or "You should change that to this" and I have to explain all my reasons for every purchase we make.

Your absolutely right, just put up a single number, and show them how much out of pocket you have to cover yourself each month rog, that would probably do it.

Current costs : $2339
Current coffer: $1700
Needed for you bastards to help me keep wasting my time: $539

That would probably cover it. Then make a thread...

Donations this month:
This months uber donor!
1
Platinum donor +$75
1
2
3
Gold donor 25- 50
1
2
3
everyone else thanks!
1
2
3
Lifetime thanks to:
1 Rogean (i'm not trying to cut any of the other devs out here, you all kick ass, this was an example)
2
3

[bionicbadger]

how about for every $100 we donate, we can pick who we would like banned for a day?

[Myrkskog]

Sweet