Necro Back after break (no ideas which spells to use)

[Tonikola]

Hey guys/gals, I'm trying to get back into the groove of things with my 53 necro on green but I can't for the life of me remember which spells I should be using (specific names). Which dots are my go-to's? Should I be downranking my slows (I sort of recall doing that). Just trying to remember what the most efficient "rotation" was for this level range.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[fortior]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Necromancer_efficiency and sort by mana efficiency, discount any dots you don't like (high fizzle mod, too slow, etc).

At 53 your best bet for dots: splurt, ebolt for dps/ignite blood for efficiency

paralyzing earth is your long root, root/hungry earth is your cheap bad root

I just use a cheap snare if I use snare at all. I charm solo so don't snare a whole lot, and have epic now so when I do I just click that.
Hardly an expert but the above works for rotting mobs left after charming through a pack

[Tonikola]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a ton, fortior!

[fortior]

at 53 I would shoot for HS basement charming (you can use beguile undead since mobs max at 46) or working on your VP key if you're in a guild that goes there, since verix/rotting skel/pained soul are relatively good xp camps at that level

[Toxigen]

I think going to KC and doing a little charming in a group setting may be a safer option so OP can get back in the groove.

Then go hit HS when you've got the charm thing down, just be careful zoning in.

[Tonikola]

Yeah I definitely want to play it safe. Came back to 1/4 bubble till’ 54 and a death would be a pretty demoralizing way to start. That being said I don’t want my rust to impact other players so i’m thinking a nice big open zone to get the feel of things again would be nice. Let’s me make my dumb mistakes in private hah.

[Toxigen]

Yeah I definitely want to play it safe. Came back to 1/4 bubble till’ 54 and a death would be a pretty demoralizing way to start. That being said I don’t want my rust to impact other players so i’m thinking a nice big open zone to get the feel of things again would be nice. Let’s me make my dumb mistakes in private hah.

people are half asleep in KC anyway its the most braindead 50-60 leveling place on p99

you'll be fine...and if you happen to catch a good player there, just ask questions!

once you're confident, definitely go to HS...classic necro leveling experience...and if you can find a duo there that'll help with the learning curve...or hit up enchanters close to your level and see if they want to tag along

dont forget necro heals are sleeper good in groups! a bard + necro can heal groups no problem so dont be afraid to join weird group comps

[Tonikola]

That’s awesome to hear! I’ll give KC a try sooner rather than later in that case. Thanks for helping me jump back into the deep-end of the pool!

[Zuranthium]

Howling Stones doesn't have a better ZEM than Karnor's Castle, nor MOB's that are easier for their level, and you can't easily run to the exit or maintain Jboots, AND it requires extra time to get the key. There's no benefit to leveling there instead of KC, aside from perhaps KC being overcrowded on a given day.

I'd also rather level in City of Mist than HS. Plenty of undead for a Necro to charm.

And if you don't want to charm, there's better zones than all of those places.

[fortior]

basement in KC is good because you'll get your verix vp key piece if you level there enough

[Elizondo]

KC Groups to get the feel of charm

Charm breaks happen

You don't want to be fumbling about if that happens in a tight spot deep in HS

[zelld52]

my spellbar used to look like this around 53 - solo / charming.

1) drain soul - swapped to Deflux at 54
2) hungry earth
3) screaming terror
4) cajole undead / thrall of bones depending on mob level
5) enstill
6) feign death
7) rest the dead
8) DAMAGE SWAP: (In combat) Vampiric Curse, Splurt, Banish Undead - depending if finishing off undead or non.
REBUFF SWAP: (Out of Combat) Augment Death, Major Shielding / Shield of the Magi / Dead Man Floating, etc.

1-7 usually didn't change. I preferred using a single pet with a torch and a weapon, and killing it last. When mob i'm killing is one Drain Soul, or Dismiss Undead, or Hungry earth away from death - keep it rooted and back pet. use rest the dead on pet, feign death. pet is paci / blurred now, and you can finish the mob.... dont paci blur on the last kill for pet and finish it off with some hungry earths heh.

I originally used hungry earth on pet if charm broke - because its short duration. but screaming terror is a faster cast - and has more utility, so i keep that on the bar always.

I charmed in City of Mist from 45-54. The arena is great, theres 5 undead in the main building, 4 more undead in the side building. 3 goos too level 35-45 mobs in the center... i left the goo building alone. good exp and plenty of room to kite on charm breaks etc.

Temple is also great city of mist... the inside (i left the outside alone) theres 7 undead spawns and 1 golem.

cruised through 51-54 there - but at 54 it was too many green, and howling stones was too appealing not to switch locales.

[Toxigen]

HS is good because mobs HT which is literally DPS for a charm solo

if you cant understand this you're awful at eq

[Toxigen]

Howling Stones doesn't have a better ZEM than Karnor's Castle, nor MOB's that are easier for their level, and you can't easily run to the exit or maintain Jboots, AND it requires extra time to get the key. There's no benefit to leveling there instead of KC, aside from perhaps KC being overcrowded on a given day.

I'd also rather level in City of Mist than HS. Plenty of undead for a Necro to charm.

And if you don't want to charm, there's better zones than all of those places.

dipshit giving terrible advice yet again

[Zuranthium]

dipshit giving terrible advice yet again

Yep that's what you constantly do. HS is not some uber leveling zone. Your fetish for that zone is simply your own fetish. Clearly not everyone wants to charm either, and Necros are great soloers without charming. It's a fact that there are much better places to exp for non-charming, but you provided absolutely 0 useful info to the person asking, like usual.

[Elizondo]

Yep that's what you constantly do. HS is not some uber leveling zone. Your fetish for that zone is simply your own fetish. Clearly not everyone wants to charm either, and Necros are great soloers without charming. It's a fact that there are much better places to exp for non-charming, but you provided absolutely 0 useful info to the person asking, like usual.

Nothing comes close to charm 51+

[fortior]

Charming to 60 on a necro can be super safe. Pack a charged cap, have harm shield on your bar, snare/root the mob you're not charming, and don't get greedy. Even if charming and non-charming were the exact same xp/hour, one is more difficult than the other, so learning to do both means you'll have more xp camps open to you. In reality charming is straight up better in zones where you can't root rot every single mob at a camp every spawn cycle, because charming adds high dps to two mobs every charm.

Often times it's not about which xp camp is best, but about what's the best xp camp that's currently open.

[zelld52]

/shrug I was earing about 10% exp per hour charming in Howling Stones North from 55-58, as an Iksar with -20% penalty.

Seems pretty damn good to me.

[fortior]

Yeah charming is just vastly more dps so while it is useless if you're at a camp you can clear fast anyway, at 50+ mob hp/damage scale up so much that your time to kill when not charming becomes garbage.

[PatChapp]

Chardok is a good option to and not very popular,at least the xp camp.
Duo with a druid, they charm a dog you charm and skele and you just clear the castle ent,up and down the ramps. Very easy and safe, good xp and can be good loot.

[fortior]

If you charm with a druid be sure to let them use the long snare on the charms, makes it super super safe

[Toxigen]

Chardok is a good option to and not very popular,at least the xp camp.
Duo with a druid, they charm a dog you charm and skele and you just clear the castle ent,up and down the ramps. Very easy and safe, good xp and can be good loot.

super sleeper duo there

bigly gud

[PatChapp]

For sure,super strong duo for chardok.
You can keep the entrance ramp clear and just gate out when your pets get low,keep sow up full time.
Ridiculously safe.

[Toxigen]

and really not bad in HS either if you're not confident in charm solo

no need to keep a dedicated pet, just keep breaking low and grab another

[Vivitron]

I find myself hesitant to xp in chardok because I think it would be fun to have my necro factioned there eventually. Maybe I should just do it and later farm the extra faction; I'm not even sure how much extra it would be.

I've been pretty on and off with my necro levelling but IIRC this is my spell line up charming in HS basement:

1. swap (often splurt or deflux, if I have to lull I top slot it too for the better gcd spam)
2. swap (often lich or hungry earth)
3. Thrall of Bones (I think the faster cast is worth the extra mana)
4. Bond of Death
5. Paralyzing Earth
6. Screaming Terror
7. Feign Death
8. Harmshield

In contrast to zelld52 when soloing I like to leave the pet unbuffed, PE the mob it's killing, then break charm and kill them both when they're low. His tactic to Rest the Dead on his charmed pet then flop to reset it is a good one to have in your pocket; it can make duos much smoother.

In contrast to seemingly every other necro I often like to sit on my pet so it doesn't move on a charm break. When it breaks I PE it, then step back and recharm. When sitting close doesn't make sense I Screaming Terror on a charm break for the short duration.

When you have to do dot damage, consider splurt first. When the duration doesn't cost you an extra root and when it's not significantly overkill it's way better than your other spell damage.

[PatChapp]

It won't hurt to kill your necros faction,since when you farm chardok on a necro you constantly lose faction anyway. Get used to the grind.
Just torture yourself and kill goblins in range of angry when it's in window.

[PatChapp]

and really not bad in HS either if you're not confident in charm solo

no need to keep a dedicated pet, just keep breaking low and grab another

That works,but can be a crapshoot to get a convenient dog or skele to spawn.

[Toxigen]

That works,but can be a crapshoot to get a convenient dog or skele to spawn.

very true!

[zelld52]

It won't hurt to kill your necros faction,since when you farm chardok on a necro you constantly lose faction anyway. Get used to the grind.
Just torture yourself and kill goblins in range of angry when it's in window.

i take it feign death while dot finishes mob doesnt work? would have to /q out every fight with dots loaded to avoid faction i suppose