Returning to P99 (Necro vs Enchanter)

[Xarn]

Decided to come back to P99 after a 10+ year absence. Have a 57 Cleric on Blue as well as a twink rogue (who's epic doesn't work now :(). I debated coming back to blue since I have assets there, but have since been leaning on going to green for the higher population and building my way up.

I am also torn on class as well, right now it's a tie between Necro and Enchanter. I plan on soloing most of the time due to odd work schedule and grouping when I can. I know enchanter would get groups easier, at least back when I played. But seeing some people streaming P99 and videos, if seems like there's an abundance of enchanters (but I may be wrong). And necro can solo just as well for the most part. So right now I'm completely undecided, they both have their pros and cons.

[Swish]

Hey Xarn, if you're staying on blue I'd start guild shopping... its a lot more fun with other people to chat to/do groups/raids with.

Necro and enchanter are both fun. Arguably necros are more well rounded for solo stuff and with feign death, lifetaps and other toys they shine alone. They're also very easy to level without any gear, so if you did want to move to green and start at zero plat you'll be able to that on an easy start.

Good luck whatever you do.

[Toxigen]

enchanter is far stronger

necro is a bit more forgiving

[Vexenu]

Broke: Any race Enchanter, Iksar Necro

Woke: Non-Iksar Necro

Bespoke: Human Monk of Quellious who acquires all plat from begging NPCs, only buys food and bandages, never equips any weapons or armor, preaches to players in the tunnel about the virtues of renouncing the material world and pledging one's life exclusively to the pursuit of tranquility

[WarpathEQ]

If I were in your shoes I would stick to blue, server pop may be higher on green but its just more of the same...additional toxic warm bodies in the raid scene is the only real difference.

You already have resources that you can leverage and obtaining gear is a bit cheaper on blue due to server age.

Enchanter is generally considered the most powerful class in P99, with that said I personally tried some enchanter and wasn't a fan of the play style so it really comes down to a judgement call.

My vote would be for Necro but I think it really comes down to end game solo'ing if you want to be able solo in groups of mobs or camps than enchanter is the clear winning. If you want to solo single pulls or split mobs out in a 1v1 environment Necro is much better.

[caveslug]

This is just my POV, and as a Necro fan.

Necro feels like the lazy mans class, compared to enchanter.
The enchanters feels more "active" when fighting mobs with charm solo, granted a necro can undead charm too. I never feel stressed on the Necro, on the enchanter I'm just clinching waiting for the charm break. I do feel Enchanter has a more cool solo end game, with the challenges. Not to say you can't do that on a Necro too.

And I would say blue server, top end it's the same. But less solo players competing, or even "gasp" red, if you plan to only solo.

[Gozuk]

I feel like Necro is the answer. They are also more fun to gear IMO.

[Toxigen]

I feel like Necro is the answer. They are also more fun to gear IMO.

lolwat

[Gozuk]

Shrug

[Rimitto]

I'd say probably stay on blue. You'd have to basically start over completely if you went to green, and it's not like you'd get to experience anything new since blue and green are on the same point in the timeline now.

If you want to solo, necro is way easier I think.
Enchanter is very finicky, even as a solo.
Necros always seem to be high, drunk, or smoking pot whenever they're grinding exp on felwithe elves or qeynos guards.

I figure it's way easier to grind as necro than enchanter. Go necro.

[spoil]

Necros always seem to be high, drunk, or smoking pot whenever they're grinding exp on felwithe elves or qeynos guards.


The bot's right. All those players doing repetitive tasks like root rotting the same mobs for 13 hours a day must be heavily sedated. A healthy person would die from boredom.

[Swish]

I'd say probably stay on blue. You'd have to basically start over completely if you went to green, and it's not like you'd get to experience anything new since blue and green are on the same point in the timeline now.

If you want to solo, necro is way easier I think.
Enchanter is very finicky, even as a solo.
Necros always seem to be high, drunk, or smoking pot whenever they're grinding exp on felwithe elves or qeynos guards.

I figure it's way easier to grind as necro than enchanter. Go necro.

Blue also needs the player count more at this point.

[Wakanda]

enchanter is far stronger

necro is a bit more forgiving

I play enchanter and necromancer a lot, and I feel like my necromancer is genuinely more powerful in a lot of situations ;)

Like I need to farm something in mistmoore? Okay what exactly can I charm in this zone that competes with my necromancer pet �� lower guk is the same way, I had to help a friend with his CR. I started clearing a path on Enchanter and realized it’s taking too long, so I swapped to my necro and decimated everything with paralyzing earth / splurt and a pet that cons red to all the mobs in our way.

Was able to heal my friend if needed.

Same with farming a lot of other zones, I’m so much better off farming CT, Sol B, guards etc with my necro than I am my enchanter

My enchanter is way more fun to play, was way more fun to level, and I love the fact that groups seem happier with me around (I feel like groups want necros to do the same thing as enc but they are just worse at it). I also know Enchanter can do some crazy stuff, and a lot of times have super easy times breaking camps with my lulls and high charisma.

But my necro feels a lot more powerful a lot of times. my necro can clear all of kobold royals really fast compared to my enc, but my enchanter can solo efreeti :p my necro cannot (maybe he can, but I never felt the need to try it)

[Toxigen]

I play enchanter and necromancer a lot, and I feel like my necromancer is genuinely more powerful in a lot of situations ;)

Like I need to farm something in mistmoore? Okay what exactly can I charm in this zone that competes with my necromancer pet �� lower guk is the same way, I had to help a friend with his CR. I started clearing a path on Enchanter and realized it’s taking too long, so I swapped to my necro and decimated everything with paralyzing earth / splurt and a pet that cons red to all the mobs in our way.

Was able to heal my friend if needed.

Same with farming a lot of other zones, I’m so much better off farming CT, Sol B, guards etc with my necro than I am my enchanter

My enchanter is way more fun to play, was way more fun to level, and I love the fact that groups seem happier with me around (I feel like groups want necros to do the same thing as enc but they are just worse at it). I also know Enchanter can do some crazy stuff, and a lot of times have super easy times breaking camps with my lulls and high charisma.

But my necro feels a lot more powerful a lot of times. my necro can clear all of kobold royals really fast compared to my enc, but my enchanter can solo efreeti :p my necro cannot (maybe he can, but I never felt the need to try it)

but with an enchanter you never need to farm anything low level - you just farm high end targets and sell shit for big plat

necro is budget enchanter, limited to undead for any real damage

however, a necro + bard can keep most normal XP groups healed without any need for cleric / druid / shaman which is pretty cool when you cant find people

[Elizondo]

Tough call

If you're chasing maximum power it's Enchanter hands down

Both can be fun and engaging. Necro can solo a few cool things, but it's nowhere near what an enchanter can do in the right hands

There are some youtube videos out there that show what these classes can effectively solo at the highest levels by Prismatica and Sarleon respectively

I'd recommend checking them out

[PatChapp]

Enchanter doesn't need gear beyond couple k in the tunnel to do enchanter things.
If your goal is easy soloing necro is much more forgiving enchanter kind of always on a knifes edge.
Necro can do some neat stuff on raids. Train outs,bone walking.
Enchanters are buff and tash bots,try to slow when all the shaman are dead

[PatChapp]

I play enchanter and necromancer a lot, and I feel like my necromancer is genuinely more powerful in a lot of situations ;)

Like I need to farm something in mistmoore? Okay what exactly can I charm in this zone that competes with my necromancer pet �� lower guk is the same way, I had to help a friend with his CR. I started clearing a path on Enchanter and realized it’s taking too long, so I swapped to my necro and decimated everything with paralyzing earth / splurt and a pet that cons red to all the mobs in our way.

Was able to heal my friend if needed.

Same with farming a lot of other zones, I’m so much better off farming CT, Sol B, guards etc with my necro than I am my enchanter

My enchanter is way more fun to play, was way more fun to level, and I love the fact that groups seem happier with me around (I feel like groups want necros to do the same thing as enc but they are just worse at it). I also know Enchanter can do some crazy stuff, and a lot of times have super easy times breaking camps with my lulls and high charisma.

But my necro feels a lot more powerful a lot of times. my necro can clear all of kobold royals really fast compared to my enc, but my enchanter can solo efreeti :p my necro cannot (maybe he can, but I never felt the need to try it)

Why would an enchanter need to kill anything to cr in lower guk. Assuming dead side you just get past the bats and run found ivu..
If it's live side nothing sees invis

[Swish]

Enchanter doesn't need gear beyond couple k in the tunnel to do enchanter things.
If your goal is easy soloing necro is much more forgiving enchanter kind of always on a knifes edge.
Necro can do some neat stuff on raids. Train outs,bone walking.
Enchanters are buff and tash bots,try to slow when all the shaman are dead

I leveled my enchanter from nothing on red, you can do enchanter things in a starter robe and cloth armor. That's classic EQ.

[loramin]

I leveled my enchanter from nothing on red, you can do enchanter things in a starter robe and cloth armor. That's classic EQ.

Except for the whole "charm is not classic here" part. Other than that, it's totally classic.

[Swish]

Charming on just base stats is still hazardous.

[fortior]

calling charming dangerous when you got 3 pbae stuns, lull, blur, ae mez, rune and bedlam is pretty funny

it's only dangerous when you take risks which would immediately kill other classes

[PatChapp]

It's fun when you can't stun or mez your pet that quad hits for 200.
<3 supercube

[thebutthat]

They're both pretty fun to play. I liked raiding a little more on a necro. But hard to argue against the farming ability of an enchanter. Sure you got some targets as a necro, but you have all the targets an an enchanter. Slow/tash/lull/blurr/mez/charm/pbaoe stun in the same toolkit is just too good to not have one. Especially if you want to come back in a casual sense. You can solo any leveling zone. You can duo for even better bang for your buck on time if there are enough mobs and it's a complimentary class.

I played a 60 necro and enchanter on blue. When I got the itch to play again, it was a no brainer to just role an enchanter for the casual commitment to play the game and be able to do whatever I wanted however I wanted when I wanted.