Peter Jackson's The Lord of The Rings movies

[Evia]

I watched these in theaters when they released between 01-03. Found out my wife hadn't seen them and so we just spent ~4ish days going through the 3 movies in the extended edition.

Wow. All I can say is wow. Ok that's not true inc a bunch of words.I remember feeling amped to play EQ after watching the movies in theaters, but as an adult I was totally blown away. I don't think I paid enough attention to the little details and politics that were transpiring when I was a kid...because this time around it felt like the movie clicked with me on all levels.

My wife just started reading the books and I think I'll do so when she finishes them. Have you guys seen these movies? Or read the books? I think both were ahead of their time..I know so many people praise these books and movies but I truly cannot say enough good things. Multiple characters resonated with me and personal life experiences and multiple scenes connected with me on some sort of emotional or personal way. I highly recommend rewatching them if it's been a while.


TLDR: I'm blown away at the LOTR movies and wanna read the books now and play another 5k+hrs of EQ or LOTRO after watching.

[Swish]

Both me and a good friend came out of one of the LOTR movies (I forget which one) and we said "Yeah we should totally go play some Heroes of Might and Magic 3" :D

[magnetaress]

they are ok the extended release ones are too violent, much prefer the books to the movies

[Trexller]

Why wouldn't frodo just ride the giant eagles to mordor

Pick up in the shire, drop the ring into mt doom from the air

Home in time for dinner

[magnetaress]

they are ok the extended release ones are too violent, much prefer the books to the movies

the ring was too scary to risk like that remember the nazghul with winged beasties?

[Trexller]

the ring was too scary to risk like that remember the nazghul with winged beasties?

Gandalf and Galadriel each ride an escort eagle and make short work of the nazghul while frodo safely flies to mordor

Dont even need to see a wood elf skateboard on a shield down some steps

[Penish]

if i could sell common sense

also lol

[magnetaress]

Gandalf and Galadriel each ride an escort eagle and make short work of the nazghul while frodo safely flies to mordor

Dont even need to see a wood elf skateboard on a shield down some steps

R u implying Gandalf isn't a man? Lol.

Also Galadriel being one with the katana is a retconning. She was just a pretty elf in the books. There are also 9 nazghul. We never saw eagle versus flying thing power levels. We only saw them hovering and at low lvls looking for frodo and the ring. The one that dies was on the ground lol. They could be much more dangerous at altitude with some full airspeeds.

Like I get what ur saying buttttt it's not bulletproof.

[Trexller]

eagles might have low hp but with wizard riders they are like reaper drones

ive also wondered about aragorn's ghost buddies

they were so ridiculously powerful, taking out whole fields of enemies and wisping thru warships of soldiers, like just 1 ghost could have fought basically everyone.

couldn't aragorn have mentioned them earlier at the ring council?

"If by my life or death I can protect you, I will, you have my sword, but I also know these ghost bros, they can infinitely kill anything that moves with magic, and they owe me a huge favor"

[magnetaress]

Ghost bros will be like my favor to u is to smoke 1 orc or pirate each. Gg gf <--- ghost bro to Aragorn. Legolas be like "lol" with his face on pillows. I seen a picture of someone's irl.

That said. Combining ghost plus eagles and making a treetop flyer beeline for the mnt. Would have probably worked fine. Especially seeing as the ghosts levitate.

[Toxigen]

no trans in lotr so no not woke enough for current day

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Why wouldn't frodo just ride the giant eagles to mordor

Pick up in the shire, drop the ring into mt doom from the air

Home in time for dinner

From my understanding, the Eagles are basically equivalent to angels, and in the LOTR lore the angels are not really supposed to interfere with Middle Earth. It's similar to if you believe in God and angels. Angels could have killed Hitler in WW2, which would have ended a major conflict. But there is no evidence of this occuring, as God probably wouldn't allow them to do this. You can think of the Eagles not destroying the One Ring in the same context.

Gandalf is also an angel, and has one of the three elven rings of power, the ring of fire. He cannot unleash his full wizard powers because he is an angel, and has the same restriction as the eagles.

Instead, he uses the ring of fire to "fire up" the courage of others, which is one reason why he is able to persuade people to go on these perilous quests. He is guiding the people of middle earth to fix the problems since he cannot directly do it himself.

The Balrogs are basically corrupted angels and aren't supposed to exist. That is why Gandalf decided to use his full wizard powers against the Balrog specifically. There was no way to stop it from killing the Fellowship otherwise. He does warn the Balrog first that he is an angel, which is his famous "you shall not pass" speech. Perhaps he was hoping to avoid conflict if the Balrog knew he was a serious threat.

[Old_PVP]

Gandalf and Galadriel each ride an escort eagle and make short work of the nazghul while frodo safely flies to mordor

Gandalf wasn't super powerful yet, he had to gain some levels soloing a raid mob in Moria.

Galadriel is immortal but low HP and no divine aura. One arrow would have ended her and she wasn't willing to risk her immortality for some bullshit ringwar that happens every few thousand years.

[booter]

no trans in lotr so no not woke enough for current day

i'm gay for aragorn so as the woke spokesperson of p99 i'll give this one a pass

also the films are masterpieces. absolutely incredible filmmaking. if you're into film production at all, the special features/behind-the-scenes making of the films are awards-worthy too

[Toxigen]

imo peter jacksons best work is They Shall Not Grow Old

[Jimjam]

The real plot hole is not how to return the ring. It is the idea of returning the ring:the ring that will grant Sauron’s will to dominate and abilities to name great curses to those in possession of it.

Geography has it’s own sentience in Middle Earth. Mountains are malevolent, forests are perfidious.

Mount Doom must surely be worst of all. A mountain whose roots creep deep and can reach into the fiery and shadowy underworlds (in which many terrible horrors reside).

So casting the ring into mount doom will not destroy it. No. It will provide that volcano with Sauron’s power. And an army of horrors older than time, with a reach across all of Middle Earth.

[Toxigen]

i found Frodo's whole bit towards the end exhausting

the battle scenes were sick tho

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[magnetaress]

A friend said...


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[Ciderpress]

Two Towers is by far the best of the trilogy imo. Fellowship sets everything up great and gets you invested but honestly it gets a bit plodding during that long fight in the woods at the end (though the boromir death scene still gets the feels).

RoTK was just sensory overload when I saw it and the giant armies just seemed too over the top huge to be believable. Plus then none of it matters cause the invincible ghost army just wipes everyone out in two seconds. Anticlimactic.

Two towers though is amazing all the way through. The epic battle is appropriately scaled, that final scene with gandalph riding the horse down the mountainside is just gorgeously executed. Theodin's storyline is super epic and heartbreaking when gandalf frees him and he realizes his son is dead. It's by far the most mature of the three films.

Oh also best original score ever, by a mile. Howard Shore killed it completely, the format is now won.

[Ciderpress]

Also random thought: Fellowship came out in theaters only a couple months after 9\11, which makes the whole trilogy post-9\11. For some reason I could have sworn fellowship came out earlier than that, but nope, Dec 2001. After the horrifying spectacle of 9\11, the spectacle of a fully live-action LOTR trilogy was very welcome I think.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Also random thought: Fellowship came out in theaters only a couple months after 9\11, which makes the whole trilogy post-9\11. For some reason I could have sworn fellowship came out earlier than that, but nope, Dec 2001. After the horrifying spectacle of 9\11, the spectacle of a fully live-action LOTR trilogy was very welcome I think.

Just imagine the conspiracy theories if Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers released on 9/11.

[Trexller]

Plus then none of it matters cause the invincible ghost army just wipes everyone out in two seconds. Anticlimactic.

Right my thoughts exactly. Aragorn's ghost bros were so ridiculously powerful that anyone who died earlier in the trilogy was a needless death. Everyone's sacrifice in the entire film series is nullified and cheapened.

Boromir didn't need to die, Gandalf didn't need to fight the balrog, Galadriel didn't need to do her nice-flex-bro laser light show.

At the ring council, Elrond coulda just been like, "so Aragorn, remember Isildur's sword? Yeah we can reforge it and then summon those ghost bros who owe you a huge favor, and who could destroy Sauron without a single casualty"

So why the need to send millions of their own people to their deaths? Was middle earth over populated? Never let a crisis go to waste right?

Or is Aragorn so gangsta that he be like, "Im not going to release the ghost bros from their torment unless its the last resort, ill send millions of men, elves, hobbits and dwarves to their death before i set them free"

Thats cold. Ice cold.

Aragorn is RUTHLESS, a real OG

[Evia]

I started playing LOTRO because I have one of those lifetime accounts...
But idk why this game feels more dated than EQ. At least the combat does anyway.

Trying to get back into it because I've somehow convinced the old lotro static group from 15 years ago to try it again. Hopefully we don't quit too quickly lol.

[Old_PVP]

I started playing LOTRO because I have one of those lifetime accounts...
But idk why this game feels more dated than EQ. At least the combat does anyway.

Trying to get back into it because I've somehow convinced the old lotro static group from 15 years ago to try it again. Hopefully we don't quit too quickly lol.

I played LOTRO for a few months with the wife and kid. Was fun having a dedicated group. But I don't know if I'm just awesome at this game or what cause everything was ridiculously easy. Our 3 person group was invincible, even in dungeons. Only made it to lvl 25ish though.

[Swish]

A friend said...




Tolkien was good pals with C.S. Lewis (Narnia and shit), and he was weaving some religion based stuff in there. Wouldn't surprise me if Tolkien intentionally was getting it in but being more subtle.

[Elizondo]

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[Ciderpress]

Oh dang elizondo got sprung

[magnetaress]

Oh dang elizondo got sprung

It's been awhile now lol.

[Ekco]

the Biblical tone of the writing in The Silmarillion is pretty dope

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[Trexller]

yeah im gonna go out on a limb and say LOTR is good, but not as good as the reputation that it has

the way I see it, they dumped money into CGI and made a visually appealing ultra-nerd movie

then the world of ultra-nerds reacts going, "they finally made OUR MOVIE"

and yeah it's like babe ruth's home run record. it was only good, because no one ever did before.

[Rygar]

Spoilers, so read if you want.

I loved Fellowship when it came out, I literally watched it every week when it hit the dollar theaters and later the DVDs.

I read all the books after fellowship but before two towers came out. The absolute genius of the movie of Fellowship is how they breathed fresh life into Boromir, essentially a nobody in the books, very little attention given to him. They really did a rare improvement over the book here. Leaving out Tom Bombadil also was 100% necessary for pacing. Incorporating dialogue from other books and appendixes here showed real attention to detail and a love for fantasy.

I'll say, Two Towers movie reaaaaally shit the bed for me. Way too much comedy out of Gimli. I also identified the ent as Gimli's voice and ruined my immersion, even looked like him. So many little things like that in Two Towers ruined the movie for me. Saying Saruman controlled the king with some kind of old man spell was stupid, in the books I much prefer Wormtongue being the crafty villain convincing the king he was too old and to rest, just a slow drip of poisonous words working him into apathy over the years. Aragorn falling off the cliff into the river. The way the Uruk-hai spoke english with the orcs and 'meat is back on the menu', uhhhh... wtf?

There is even a scene in the caves below helm's deep where someone moves past one of those hanging spikes and you see it swing, clearly a rope off camera. Lots of unpolished things like that. Made me worry badly about Return of the King, felt Peter Jackson got lucky in Fellowship somehow and Two Towers was showing his inexperience for a major picture.

Return of the King I thought was awesome, although I despise how they did the undead army, and I reaaaaally wish they did a flashback to Isildur cursing them here, but wasn't even in extended edition. The pippin song was on point, when Eowyn began to battle the Witch King as he emerged from the slaughtered wings of the Nazgul gave me goose bumps. The look on Frodo's face and how he delivered his line after the ring was gone felt super realistic. Lots of scenes on point like that. I didn't like how they tried to build tension like Frodo falling off with Gollum, felt like a lame fake out. I wish they gave a bit more screen time to the mouth of sauron here, could have been a way cooler character and even had some battle moments while the ring was being carried. I pictured that meeting much better in the book, where Gandalf seemed completely broken and people thought he was actually ready to give in to Sauron's demands, with the mouth of sauron revelling from the pain in his voice. Didn't like how Frodo turned against Sam because of some missing rations, yet Sam decides to turn back after discovering the missing ration... like, he already knows it was Gollum, how did seeing that motivate him? Felt very poorly thought out and just some 'let's create some tension and find a dramatic return for Sam'.

All in all, I loved the movie as a trilogy. I think they can do better though, hope they remake it in the next 10 to 20 years

[Duik]

Spoilers...

[Trexller]

spoiler alerts on 20+ year old films

lol people are so god damn soft these days

[Jimjam]

yeah im gonna go out on a limb and say LOTR is good, but not as good as the reputation that it has

the way I see it, they dumped money into CGI and made a visually appealing ultra-nerd movie

then the world of ultra-nerds reacts going, "they finally made OUR MOVIE"

and yeah it's like babe ruth's home run record. it was only good, because no one ever did before.

At the time loads of nerds complained they gave Glorfindel bewbs. Apparently Liv was meant to play a way more prominent character that got merged with a bunch more characters but she couldn’t hack the action sequences. Idk if true. Could be just shitstir nerds which can’t handle people with an innie. Her delivery of “If you want him, come and get him!” was amazing though. Between her and her stunt actor that entire sequence was very good.

[Rygar]

At the time loads of nerds complained they gave Glorfindel bewbs. Apparently Liv was meant to play a way more prominent character that got merged with a bunch more characters but she couldn’t hack the action sequences. Idk if true. Could be just shitstir nerds which can’t handle people with an innie. Her delivery of “If you want him, come and get him!” was amazing though. Between her and her stunt actor that entire sequence was very good.

I seem to recall Liv requested her action scenes at Helm's Deep get pulled. It wasnt that she couldn't hack it, the scene leaked and everyone ripped hard on it. Liv said something like "people think celebrities don't read these forums but I do, I cried so hard".

[magnetaress]

pretty soon you'll be able to talk to chat gpt and get LOTR movies to your specifications

[booter]

the way I see it, they dumped money into CGI and made a visually appealing ultra-nerd movie



the films were so good because they did exactly the opposite of this. they built so many amazing sets and shot in incredible locations. gollum was a remarkable cgi achievement at the time, and actually still doesn't age that terribly

now if you are talking about the hobbit movies, i hard agree. awful amount of leaning on green and blue screen

[Pulgasari]

The bad CGI shot I notice the most is when Eomer and them are just starting down the hill to rescue Helm's Deep. Looks like a video game cutscene when they move through the bottleneck at the top.

[Botten]

The bad CGI shot I notice the most is when Eomer and them are just starting down the hill to rescue Helm's Deep. Looks like a video game cutscene when they move through the bottleneck at the top.

Visited Mohegan Sun in big letters is Pride and a bunch of pictures like the one below.

And speaking of stuff that looks like a bottle.

Babadook Pride meme reminded me of your avatar today.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-40205358

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/4722/production/_96401281_babadook976_v4.jpg

[Pulgasari]

Visited Mohegan Sun in big letters is Pride and a bunch of pictures like the one below.

And speaking of stuff that looks like a bottle.

Babadook Pride meme reminded me of your avatar today.

https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-40205358

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/cpsprodpb/4722/production/_96401281_babadook976_v4.jpg

The Babadook is the main character from a 2014 Australian/Canadian horror movie about a monster that seemingly haunts a single mother and her young child.

What did Botten mean by this?

[magnetaress]

Botten is kinda R A word rapey dude nevr comes out swinging with a compliment or a liek almost never that i seen just comes on here to dominate with 'contrarian idealisms'

being right dont make u right my man

[Botten]

Botten is kinda R A word rapey dude nevr comes out swinging with a compliment or a liek almost never that i seen just comes on here to dominate with 'contrarian idealisms'

being right dont make u right my man

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[Rygar]

I admit I didn't understand Botten's post in context of a LotR discussion.

[Botten]

I admit I didn't understand Botten's post in context of a LotR discussion.

Off topic. Again.

How is Seducio and Unsunghero doing?

[Trexller]

Off topic. Again.

How is Seducio and Unsunghero doing?

How would we know??

Ask your wife

[Evia]

I admit I didn't understand Botten's post in context of a LotR discussion.
Botten just comes on here to dominate with 'contrarian idealisms'

[Botten]

How would we know??

Ask your wife



Botten just comes on here to dominate with 'contrarian idealisms'



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[Trexller]

Lol nice

[Ekco]

JeNMzaAWfpE

i forgot Patrice was in that skit, of all the dead comedians i miss that dude the most

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[Patriam1066]

no trans in lotr so no not woke enough for current day

No minorities either though you can’t tell I played one of the Haradrim

[Topgunben]

I watched these in theaters when they released between 01-03. Found out my wife hadn't seen them and so we just spent ~4ish days going through the 3 movies in the extended edition.

Wow. All I can say is wow. Ok that's not true inc a bunch of words.I remember feeling amped to play EQ after watching the movies in theaters, but as an adult I was totally blown away. I don't think I paid enough attention to the little details and politics that were transpiring when I was a kid...because this time around it felt like the movie clicked with me on all levels.

My wife just started reading the books and I think I'll do so when she finishes them. Have you guys seen these movies? Or read the books? I think both were ahead of their time..I know so many people praise these books and movies but I truly cannot say enough good things. Multiple characters resonated with me and personal life experiences and multiple scenes connected with me on some sort of emotional or personal way. I highly recommend rewatching them if it's been a while.


TLDR: I'm blown away at the LOTR movies and wanna read the books now and play another 5k+hrs of EQ or LOTRO after watching.

The movies are a masterpiece and I consider myself lucky to have been born at a time when I could see them.

Can you imagine how bad they would have been had they come out a decade later or God forbid 2 decades? Rings of Power kind of showed us this though.

[Ciderpress]

LOTR2024: Sauron (in eye form) and Saruman are in a polyamorous thruple with Elrond