What should today's new thread be about?

[magnetaress]

Why did my autocorrect suggest an apostrophe in today's. Seems weird. Is today a "person" does each day get granted personhood in some weird divine shickannery... I noticed that autocorrect wants to capitalize the first letter of months names too as if the months where some sort of diefic personas.

[Pulgasari]

It should be about the Mafia (https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/letter-the-resolution-federation-federal-employees-against-strikes-federal-service)

[Duik]

Today's the day. Is correct.

Today is the day. As is this

[Pulgasari]

It should be about the Mafia (https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/letter-the-resolution-federation-federal-employees-against-strikes-federal-service)

It's a quiet war (https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-vcrs/infiltrated-labor-unions)

[Duik]

That mafia link was interesting. Our workplace (non government) is up for an EBA this year.

Here is a quote from the site.
Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management.

That is pretty scary (from my limited understanding), the tl;dr is you guys are on ya own and its all for the good of the country (whatever that is now).

My dumbarse workmates ensure we only have ≈55% union membership.
They say nothing will change! And don't join the union.
The reason why nothing changes is we walk into our negotiations with <55% membership and management has a lil lol and says here is the EBA (that we feel comfortable accepting).
Cyas in 4 years.

But the gays/trans and athiests are wrecking the world. /S

[Duik]

A unionised wood mill within 2hrs drive has virtually 99% union subscription. That site similar to us got 8% rise for the next 3 yrs.

We are very similar and we will be lucky with our 55% subs to get 2.5% - 3.5%.

On another note, were I ceo of a largeish corp id plant a few disgruntled employees (that get payed xtra for the gruntling) to sow dissent amongst my employees.
Unions cost money!
Nothing ever changes anyways.
Yeah here here. Purple Monkey Dishwasher...

Bloody mafioso.

[Jimjam]

Why is there no possessive apostrophe in ‘its’?

Imo it’s more like ‘Rogean’s” than it is ‘his’. Its deserves its possessive apostrophe.

[Pulgasari]

Unions cost money!

Who pays for the union and what it produces?

[Pulgasari]

Here's hoping the AI age has arrived and get no more new celebrities ever

https://i.imgur.com/35ghG58.png

[magnetaress]

Why is there no possessive apostrophe in ‘its’?

Imo it’s more like ‘Rogean’s” than it is ‘his’. Its deserves its possessive apostrophe.

English is very confusing even for "its" native speakers. 🤦

[Duik]

Who pays for the union and what it produces?

Workers at the workface.

A quick calc yields $676 minus tax return ≈ $600.

8% of wage increase minus the current likely 3.5% offer is 1.8 times as much. Easily covers the 600 plus the idea and strength behind a union is the threat of strike not the actual strike action itself.
EBA negotiations be like
CEO has a number of dollars set aside for

- production

- shutdowns there is a number of weeks that each concern can go without production. If our members can outlast this number. We good.
Now the non unionised 50% of a workforce can struggle through foiling any strikes (that we dont want.)

- uva stuff.

Now, if 50 workers all team up and have in their corner who, for all intents and purposes is a employment rules lawyer. With carefully set out and costed value based on what we offer/what you get back, firsthand knowledge of other similar workplaces for comparison/leverage.

The object is to not strike (nobody makes bank) but to force a situation where the company knows if we do, they are fucked. You do this by making sure 100% of the workforce is made aware of this. By showing them this exact type of message.

Wage - union fees + 8% > Wage + 3.5%.

Also when you ask questions about safety or uniform or PPE you get an answer based on 100% of your workmates standing with you. It makes many things easier down the line.

EDIT
Thankyou for giving me another idea.
Another thread mentions how stupid people are/can be.
So i was getting all technical and numbery on my previous attempts at convincing the fence sitters at work. Ill make it as simple as i did above.
People hate math and long convoluted explainations.
We love zinging catch phrases.

[Pulgasari]

Workers at the workface.

A quick calc yields $676 minus tax return ≈ $600.

8% of wage increase minus the current likely 3.5% offer is 1.8 times as much. Easily covers the 600 plus the idea and strength behind a union is the threat of strike not the actual strike action itself.
EBA negotiations be like
CEO has a number of dollars set aside for

- production

- shutdowns there is a number of weeks that each concern can go without production. If our members can outlast this number. We good.
Now the non unionised 50% of a workforce can struggle through foiling any strikes (that we dont want.)

- uva stuff.

Now, if 50 workers all team up and have in their corner who, for all intents and purposes is a employment rules lawyer. With carefully set out and costed value based on what we offer/what you get back, firsthand knowledge of other similar workplaces for comparison/leverage.

The object is to not strike (nobody makes bank) but to force a situation where the company knows if we do, they are fucked. You do this by making sure 100% of the workforce is made aware of this. By showing them this exact type of message.

Wage - union fees + 8% > Wage + 3.5%.

Also when you ask questions about safety or uniform or PPE you get an answer based on 100% of your workmates standing with you. It makes many things easier down the line.

EDIT
Thankyou for giving me another idea.
Another thread mentions how stupid people are/can be.
So i was getting all technical and numbery on my previous attempts at convincing the fence sitters at work. Ill make it as simple as i did above.
People hate math and long convoluted explainations.
We love zinging catch phrases.

No, I get that it's lucrative and any rational worker would choose to get more money for themself if they could - but where does the more money come from?

Also, I understand there is some probationary period before you become a "made man"? How long was yours, capo minete?

[Trexller]

but where does the more money come from?

stakeholders. and they aren't giving up one red cent.

no corporation exists to serve it's customers or employees

every. single. public. corporation. exists solely to make a very small group of people very rich

[Duik]

Ok from the first payment i was like i am now.

Aww, were you wanting some whimsically cliche story about an Italian heirachical group of standover men?

[Pulgasari]

stakeholders. and they aren't giving up one red cent.

no corporation exists to serve it's customers or employees

every. single. public. corporation. exists solely to make a very small group of people very rich

We're talking about public sector unions. Who pays for their labor?

[Duik]

Correct trex but comining into a negotiation with some knowledge and ammo helps with my outcome.
Im never driving a lambo or a ferrari and im ok with that.

In these negotiations I know we pick from the bottom of the tree but im ok with that too.
Ive seen what you can become when you suckle from the corporate breast. So im happy with my work/life balance.

Arguing with ceos about my pay does little if its just me.
In an industrial dispute..
Corps know how long they can last.
Members know how long they can last.

Neither side wishes to lose money.
The corp will decide if they can continue production with staff left over. We then ask for our %.

If Union% outweighs CEO production number we have a chance to "win".

As to where the extra money comes from. The company just spent 18M - 20M (funny story. Many of the parts are USA made and cause of timing and exchange rate 3M was said to been added) so i feel they know it is worth at least a few years of hearty production and if they want a timely and uninterrupted production schedule sitting down is in all of our interests. You can whack a smilie there if you like.

[Trexller]

If i ever feel like i need to unionize to get fair treatment I just go get another job. I apply for jobs and then go crush interviews just to keep my skills sharp, then come up with a good reason to decline the job offer.

good economy or bad economy, anyone who can't find a job is experiencing a problem with themselves and not the labor market

they got you all living under this illusion that they are the gatekeepers to financial security, they say you are replaceable, workers must understand that their employers are equally replaceable, and that your employer will incur a much higher cost in replacing you, then you will spend trying to replace them.

I wouldn't vote for a union, I would vote with my feet

Resignation letter be like:
"No, Im not asking you for more money/benefits, Im not asking you for better working conditions, you know that you have been able to improve these things and you did not do it"

Anyone wanna guess how many times I've gotten a phone call asking, "how we might correct this misunderstanding?"

I dunno how to do spoilers on the forum. It's 2 times + a boss drove to my house and knocked on my door

[Duik]

Im pleased that works for you trex.

[magnetaress]

Found a cool documentary about factories on prime.

[Jimjam]

Found a cool documentary about the development of the longbow on youtube. Presented by Ray Mears who I find very marmite.

[magnetaress]

muppet 1 vs muppet 2

[Trexller]

Hot sauce infused toothpaste

[Ekco]

i learned this week that if a neighbor's tree branch breaks off during a storm and smashes into your 90s shitbox they aren't at fault as far as insurance goes.

the fuck.

https://i.imgur.com/ZzXx2O2.jpeg

[Trexller]

Why should they be at fault?

[Ekco]

Why should they be at fault?

their property attacked my property.

[Pulgasari]

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[magnetaress]

You can prevent trees falling by chopping them all down tho.