Think about how dumb the average person is.

[Pulgasari]

Then think about how half of all people are dumber than that.

https://i.imgur.com/kXww8N5.png

[magnetaress]

I'm too dumb to understand that. At all. I see gibberish...

https://media1.tenor.com/m/xSeJnn9uGRQAAAAd/gibberish.gif

[Toxigen]

nice carlin quote

also yeah poor people complaining about rich people not paying taxes are off they rockers

[Trexller]

Make them pay! Eat the rich!

like 90% of all politics is theater

that chart also doesn't take into account all of the tax gymnastics and loopholes that are used to reduce ones tax bill

but if we forced rich people to a "fair share" it would only equal like 10-20 middle-high income households

and if we did that these people would simply move all their shit offshore, including their businesses, that's millions of jobs who also pay taxes

yes success should be incentivized not penalized

the US tax system is not broken so much as US gov't spending is

these fuckers are borrowing $100,000 per second!!!

look it up

[magnetaress]

In the defense of the poor morons. At somepoint $1,000,000 just doesn't fckn matter anymore and that drives inflation without driving plebe salaries. We should be like china with more billionaires paying 50% of their salaries. Also a bag of jet engine bushings shouldn't cost $90,000.

Tbh it's all dumb because if we weren't stupid and decided to lay down the law with the stupid plebe we'd be able to generosity do it on half our budget in a nice way. Butt ya'll don't want to enlist or actually do any work or put your balls on the line... not you. The collective you.

G-d bless. Bitches.

[entruil]

Mises is givin out 100k rothbard books

[Toxigen]

or we could go to The Fair Tax and tax folks based on consumption

[Botten]

nice carlin quote

also yeah poor people complaining about rich people not paying taxes are off they rockers

To be in the top 1% of earners, you're looking at an average annual income of $819,324 (https://www.unbiased.com/discover/banking/how-much-income-puts-you-in-the-top-1-5-or-10)

estimated number of households part of the 1% is 1,313,064 (https://dqydj.com/top-one-percent-united-states/)

About 0.4% (50,000 people) of the 1% don't pay taxes

If those were taxed at about 25.9% it would be nice.

Top 5% makes on average about $335,891 and 0.7% of them don't pay their taxes.

Not going to give more links than this because the thread will be deleted.

But the rich need to pay more and a larger percent.

[Trexller]

the $ value of taxes avoided by the rich, is substantially dwarfed by the millions of poor people who don't pay taxes at all

liberal math isn't real math, and math isn't racist just because you can't understand it

[Toxigen]

the $ value of taxes avoided by the rich, is substantially dwarfed by the millions of poor people who don't pay taxes at all

liberal math isn't real math, and math isn't racist just because you can't understand it

math is a rayciss construct, as is arriving on time

typical botten libshit dippy-doo

[Ekco]

nice carlin quote

was really sad how dark carlin got towards the end, "stupid people" is early 90s. people forget he put out 2 decades of literal dogshit after that culminating in his last special that may or may not have proven that magical thinking is real.

"I Kinda Like It When a Lotta People Die" Recorded Sep. 9th / 10th 2001
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nevar forgetti, carlin did 9/11

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[Botten]

Imagine arguing billions lost can be justified with saying yeah well... "math isn't racist" or "libshit dippy-doo." :rolleyes:

[Ciderpress]

The problem, and the hubris, is assuming you are in any position to determine who is dumb

(george carlin, for example)

[Pulgasari]

About 0.4% (50,000 people) of the 1% don't pay taxes


Is this phrased poorly? 50,000 is a lot of people.

Mises is givin out 100k rothbard books

Dang, busted.🤣

[Trexller]

Imagine arguing billions lost can be justified with saying yeah well... "math isn't racist" or "libshit dippy-doo." :rolleyes:

You fail to recognize the main point so ill say it again

The dollar amount of taxes avoided by the rich is vastly lower than the dollar amount of taxes avoided by the poor.

[Pulgasari]

Imagine arguing billions lost can be justified with saying yeah well... "math isn't racist" or "libshit dippy-doo." :rolleyes:

Laffer Curve and Hauser's Law 🌠

[Botten]

Laffer Curve and Hauser's Law ��

You give them too much credit.

My statement contains their derogatory language which in turn isn't a constructive argument to apply those terms too. I do think they were bothered by my zinger.

It's more productive to discuss economic policies and their potential impacts using reasoned arguments supported by linked data.

The "nuh uh, you ...." lacks conjecture. :D

[Trexller]

Nah botten just thinks too small, he isn't a big picture guy

He sits in his lab and jerks off old women for research grant money

Or at least thats just what his wife tells me

[Botten]

You fail to recognize the main point so ill say it again

The dollar amount of taxes avoided by the rich is vastly lower than the dollar amount of taxes avoided by the poor.

O'rly

Top 1% of earners don’t pay taxes on one-fifth of income, study finds (https://www.marketplace.org/2021/03/23/wealthiest-americans-1-percent-dont-pay-taxes-on-one-fifth-of-income-irs-offshore-accounts/)

...the government is leaving about $175 billion a year on the table. That’s how much the report estimates the IRS could collect from the top 1% of earners....

This even excludes the 0.4% (or 50,000+) of the 1% that aren't even paying their taxes.

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And Tax evasion by millionaires and billionaires tops $150 billion a year, says IRS chief (https://www.ifcreview.com/news/2024/march/us-irs-chief-exposes-150-billion-annual-tax-evasion-by-us-wealthy/)

But billions lost are acceptable to you?

[Pulgasari]

O'rly

Top 1% of earners don’t pay taxes on one-fifth of income, study finds (https://www.marketplace.org/2021/03/23/wealthiest-americans-1-percent-dont-pay-taxes-on-one-fifth-of-income-irs-offshore-accounts/)



This even excludes the 0.4% (or 50,000+) of the 1% that aren't even paying their taxes.

24037

And Tax evasion by millionaires and billionaires tops $150 billion a year, says IRS chief (https://www.ifcreview.com/news/2024/march/us-irs-chief-exposes-150-billion-annual-tax-evasion-by-us-wealthy/)

But billions lost are acceptable to you?

Make it cheaper to pay than to cheat. Revenue number go up.

[Evia]

They don't want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation.

[Botten]

Nah botten just thinks too small, he isn't a big picture guy

He sits in his lab and jerks off old women for research grant money

Or at least thats just what his wife tells me

You continue to put forth that Master's degree for your hard line of work! ;) Murica!

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[Trexller]

150 bil? Lol thats nothing. Like 3/4 of one elon musk

Or its 1.5 Ukraines

I would have thought the rich ppl tax cheating was alot more

Plus you still fail to account for all the unpaid poor people taxes

Get back to work numbers monkey!

[Trexller]

You continue to put forth that Master's degree for your hard line of work! ;) Murica!

https://9b16f79ca967fd0708d1-2713572fef44aa49ec323e813b06d2d9.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/1140x_a10-7_cTC/Tnemec-Tower-14-original-jpg-1572357557.jpg

If you knew how much i got paid for the actual work i do then you'd hunt me down and shoot me

[Botten]

If you knew how much i got paid for the actual work i do then you'd hunt me down and shoot me

are you one of the 50,000?

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wjawD5heWNyQTRTfvPz4PF-970-80.jpg

[Trexller]

Probably not, but maybe?

My aunt is a tax accountant each year i dump a pile of papers on her desk and say don't tell me how the sausage is made

[Pulgasari]

Rip my beautiful poll 🥲

[magnetaress]

I've only posted 3x in this thread and nothing meaningful. Though I don't know why I do... this thread is another good candidate for deletion.

[Trexller]

I've only posted 3x in this thread and nothing meaningful. Though I don't know why I do... this thread is another good candidate for deletion.

we're glad to have you here, you got 700 posts to make up for yet

keep at it!

[magnetaress]

As soon as I hit 10k again it's going to happen.

[rhold]

Imagine arguing billions lost can be justified with saying yeah well... "math isn't racist" or "libshit dippy-doo." :rolleyes:

Imagine thinking that people using the existing tax code to keep as much of their money as they possibly can as "billions lost".

[magnetaress]

*definitely slated for deletion.

[Pulgasari]

*definitely slated for deletion.

That's not what Botten was talking about anyway.

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[Mota]

They don't want a population capable of critical thinking, they want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation.

AKA everybody arguing about taxes while the owner class fucks the worker class. It's gotten more decentralized since the days of monarchs, and we have cool gadgets and gizmos to entertain us and give us happy lives. But the core structure hasn't changed. There's a small slice of humanity that has almost all the stuff, and they get to decide how much stuff everybody else gets.

Workers that fight each other over tax rates, instead fighting the capital class, are the perfect example of the passive acceptance Carlin mentioned.

[Trexller]

Anyone remember Occupy Wall Street?

Funny how fast that turned into right vs left, black vs white, male vs female

Anything vs anything that is not finance

[Pulgasari]

There's a small slice of humanity that has almost all the stuff, and they get to decide how much stuff everybody else gets.

To me it seems everyone has more(and better!) stuff than ever.

[Trexller]

To me it seems everyone has more(and better!) stuff than ever.

You're right, they do! It has never been easier to survive in human history.

And thats one of the major problems in the western world.

Human beings have an innate need to fight for survival. Humans need to feel like their efforts have made the world a better, more controllable place.

These days, nobody has to hunt for food, or hike for water, or find shelter from bad weather.

So in lieu of any actual real problems, they piss about whatever bathroom that they feel most comfortable taking a piss.

[magnetaress]

The average person is pretty dumb just like it's dumb to post in this thread which will probably be deleted.

[Trexller]

The average person is pretty dumb just like it's dumb to post in this thread which will probably be deleted.

Hey someone reads it before it gets deleted

Your browser caught the keystrokes, and recorded them for "marketing data"

It's all out there in the ether somewhere

[Pulgasari]

The average person is pretty dumb just like it's dumb to post in this thread which will probably be deleted.

I decided it's right and proper that the stupider half don't have to pay anything because they're holy and pure in their vulgarity, as we should all be.

The meek shall inherit and shit.

[magnetaress]

I'm ok with a 90% tax rate on the poors tbh. Butt yall would not appreciate what I did with that money or the "work" programs. So I decline to engage at all.

[Patriam1066]

I decided it's right and proper that the stupider half don't have to pay anything because they're holy and pure in their vulgarity, as we should all be.

The meek shall inherit and shit.

I hate property tax

[Pulgasari]

I hate property tax

Property tax funded schools are the face of white supremacy.

[magnetaress]

Property tax funded schools are the face of white supremacy.
https://media1.giphy.com/media/WuGSL4LFUMQU/giphy.gif

[BigChief]

Then think about how half of all people are dumber than that.

https://i.imgur.com/kXww8N5.png

"Average tax rate" is based on ADJUSTED gross income. The rich have many more deductions.

Now about that quote....

[Pulgasari]

"Average tax rate" is based on ADJUSTED gross income. The rich have many more deductions.

Now about that quote....

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/27/5f/81/275f811489708637177d63c94c43cb91.jpg

[Cen]

I've never had my IQ tested but I'm surprised how many wacky numbers people claim they think their IQ might be if tested. The average is 100 and I am sure I'm a standard deviation below that, I exist to be pretty not smart

[Duik]

I've never had my IQ tested but I'm surprised how many wacky numbers people claim they think their IQ might be if tested. The average is 100 and I am sure I'm a standard deviation below that, I exist to be pretty not smart

So you're a lawyer then.