Necros and Lull

[heyokah]

Whats the deal with this. Like every piece of necro gear has - cha on it. I have 67 charisma on my necro. Charming is fine for whatever reason, appears to have little if any impact. Its the fucking lulls. Crit resists are a guarantee with my cha stat. If you tell me to carry a cha set i will punch you in the face.

[Videri]

Resists are based on relative level and the target’s magic resistance.
Critical resists are based on cha.

But you can’t get a critical resist if you don’t get a resist! The game checks “resist?” before it checks “critical?” So if you’re mostly lulling blues and greens, it often works out fine.

Also, you’re right, charisma does not affect necromancer charms. Druid neither.

[heyokah]

Ty for the clarification, I am indeed lulling(or trying to ) blues. The crit resist rate is like 25 %. Its getting me killed. This is a 37 necro in Lguk. So i guess i just need a few level to lower the resist chance overall.

[Videri]

Relative level will help. Some "blues" are one level below you. That's always tougher. It's tougher for charming, too.

If you haven't already, one thing you can do is put more distance between you and the lull target, or lull from the other side of a wall, so as to buy yourself time to FD. hth

[Vivitron]

Yeah, it definitely feels backward that Necromancers get so much negative cha on their gear when the lull depends on positive cha.

[Duik]

It's called ninja nerfing.

[PatChapp]

Get ready to punch me in the face.
Carry a crude stein and a kobold jesters crown and your over 100cha. If your doing lots of lulling not carrying a couple basic cha items is kind of working against yourself.

[Videri]

Get ready to punch me in the face.
Carry a crude stein and a kobold jesters crown and your over 100cha. If your doing lots of lulling not carrying a couple basic cha items is kind of working against yourself.

OHHHHH I can’t believe you SAID THAAAA - actually, that sounds like a good idea.

[zelld52]

It never gets easier, either. Even at 57-60 I was running into problem with Lull in Howling Stones North (level 46-49 mobs)

But, I did get really good at kiting the mobs around while I wait for Feign Death refresh

[sajbert]

So cha is the secret pro stat for necros.

[zelld52]

So cha is the secret pro stat for necros.

Yeah. Netted Kelp looks really cool and has good STR / STA ... but you will get like 33%+ crit resists on Lulls with the 25 CHA it leaves you with

[sajbert]

Human 25 cha 5sta necro master race.

[fortior]

I don’t see the issue, crit resist lull makes for easy pulling

[WarpathEQ]

I don’t see the issue, crit resist lull makes for easy pulling

+1, some people would view this as a huge advantage and using crit resist lulls for pulling can be very effective in a lot of situations.

Don't necros get root? Just root the mobs to split them, or snare one and FD the others will reset and you can get the snared one solo

[PatChapp]

I imagine he's using charm pets if he's worried about lulls in guk

[WarpathEQ]

I imagine he's using charm pets if he's worried about lulls in guk

Do it like the pro enchanters then. Send your charm pet in on multiple, root the other mobs. When you pet is close to dead break charm, root and DoT it (dot rot). Charm one of the other mobs you were fighting that are rooted and engage the other rooted mobs, repeat until all mobs are dead.

[Tnair]

with employment practices like that, im guessing most tech startups and coffee shop owners are also enchanters, or necromancers, respectively

[heyokah]

I'm aware of all the strats you nerds are talking about. Played a ranger in the hide/pull Era of the server. It's still weird. All necro shit has negative cha on it.

[enjchanter]

Whats the deal with this. Like every piece of necro gear has - cha on it. I have 67 charisma on my necro. Charming is fine for whatever reason, appears to have little if any impact. Its the fucking lulls. Crit resists are a guarantee with my cha stat. If you tell me to carry a cha set i will punch you in the face.

charisma is not a factor for necro charms
it is for lulls

move to resolved

[Toxigen]

Whats the deal with this. Like every piece of necro gear has - cha on it. I have 67 charisma on my necro. Charming is fine for whatever reason, appears to have little if any impact. Its the fucking lulls. Crit resists are a guarantee with my cha stat. If you tell me to carry a cha set i will punch you in the face.

sorry you dont got cha set hope this helps