Eternalism and Nihilism are Wrong views.

[magnetaress]

:p

everything is temporary :p

I dunno what to say about nihilism, butt to say it is all bad and meaningless / pointless is also an illusion is what is being said? It detracts from the truth.

Eternalism I get and that is foolish ! <3 :cool:

[magnetaress]

So apparently Nihilism is false because life is a precious gift whilst full of suffering, there is experience and pleasure to be had so therefore it is with ill intent and bad motivation to spite the good in life that there is, the bee lighting on the flower and fulfilling its role within its hive.

[arvidez]

nihilism is for the young or the lazy(selfish).

so i should cancel my order of Kozyrev mirror?

[magnetaress]

nihilism is for the young or the lazy(selfish).

so i should cancel my order of Kozyrev mirror?

Get it. You may have fun using it ! If anything you can look cool doing it and participate in the prime material continuum through YouTube. Buy some fruit if you can profit from ur adventure and continue to seek Enlightenment. Should you choose. Maybe even donate some fruit to anothers journey. Or even share it. Get two and see if they can work in tandem.

If you have good intentions with them that is best.

[ya.dingus]

What is this, some attempt at a college essay? You read one book and think you've got a mastery of the subject?

I'll spoil the ending for you, so you don't have to spend countless hours on self ego-masturbation and pretentious pretext.

Nihilism is for timid souls who go quietly into the night, or for psychopaths with a conscious.

Imagine not fighting for purpose.

[magnetaress]

Ya I don't like nihilism. It did snagged me tho a minute last month.

[arvidez]

What is this, some attempt at a college essay? You read one book and think you've got a mastery of the subject?

I'll spoil the ending for you, so you don't have to spend countless hours on self ego-masturbation and pretentious pretext.

Nihilism is for timid souls who go quietly into the night, or for psychopaths with a conscious.

Imagine not fighting for purpose.

How many YouTube videos equal one book?

[Ciderpress]

Nobody is truly a nihilist because if you stub your toe it still hurts and you still don't like it.

[Cecily]

Easy to bash Nihilism. I don't think it's something people actively embrace, just something that happens to you as a trauma response. I don't think it's necessarily a wrong view on life, lil depressing (very KYS oriented and sad) from the negative perspective. It's a very empowering philosophy viewed from a positive perspective. Basically life has no meaning :( vs life has no meaning :). Two feathers on the same duck. Lends itself to edgelords, so to get away from that is pretentious existentialists... but can we create meaning? Absurdists don't think so and are more along the lines of fuck this meaningless hell. I live just to spite creation. That's the more fun philosophy.


Absurdism / positive nihilihilliliilsm are great. Fuck off.

[magnetaress]

Absurdism doesn't mean u hav 2 b mean tho.

For me. I am always tryina lookout and care for ppl to try and short-circuit that trauma. Because mine is terminatorism otherwise and that feels like shit biologically for an actual empath. Nihilism doesn't help when you give a shit even when you rationally know you can't stop or help someone.

Not beefin on u Cecily. Just thinking about enlightenment and disincarnation when the time comes. I want to go be an energy wave.

[Cecily]

I think nihilism is a great tool. Basically creative destruction. You can use it to negate beliefs and consider things from a new perspective. For example, a woman's place in the world. That's a pretty meaningful statement in the 1950s, right? But if you negate that belief, just as a thought experiment, A LOT of possibilities, unlimited really, arise from the destruction of that previously fixed idea. I think certainty and rigid beliefs are a lot more dangerous than willful negation.

[magnetaress]

Maximum individuality is certainly preferable too being pigeonholed by social norms. Butt sadism, for example, isn't typically wise or effective. Even if the goal was to maximize disruption or destruction. Or neutralization.

Perhaps I'm relying on a Bhuddas own internal definition of Nihilism.

I believe choices matter. However. They matter certainly differently to different folks from different perspectives in different contexts. So to say something is meaningless or doesn't matter to me is absurd itself.

For me. I go out of my way to avoid killing bugs. Even though from a nihilist perspective that bug is already dead, has a short lifespan anyway. Etc.

I know it's absurd, butt for me it cultivates and protects me. My empathy causes me to feel miserable after killing bugs. My sense of self is more bound up in the web of life as a whole being or part of one. Therefore it is my way off of the wheel of suffering to ****avoid harming**** that which contains my body and ego within itself. And sharing my, the, world, universe, room ... body with a few bugs isn't then miserable.

[Cecily]

https://i.imgur.com/uxpd26A.jpeg

[Cecily]

Maximum individuality is certainly preferable too being pigeonholed by social norms. Butt sadism, for example, isn't typically wise or effective. Even if the goal was to maximize disruption or destruction. Or neutralization.

Perhaps I'm relying on a Bhuddas own internal definition of Nihilism.

I believe choices matter. However. They matter certainly differently to different folks from different perspectives in different contexts. So to say something is meaningless or doesn't matter to me is absurd itself.

For me. I go out of my way to avoid killing bugs. Even though from a nihilist perspective that bug is already dead, has a short lifespan anyway. Etc.

I know it's absurd, butt for me it cultivates and protects me. My empathy causes me to feel miserable after killing bugs. My sense of self is more bound up in the web of life as a whole being or part of one. Therefore it is my way off of the wheel of suffering to ****avoid harming**** that which contains my body and ego within itself. And sharing my, the, world, universe, room ... body with a few bugs isn't then miserable.
If my experience on mushrooms (which echoes the experience of countless others) had any validity at all, life is probably interconnected on a much more profound level than we are aware of. The whole idea of we are one comes up a lot with psychedelics. Most likely includes bugs. My take away from the experience was that death wasn't something to be afraid of and it didn't really matter what you did. We all end up in the same.. place or something. Can't remember the details, but it did serve to comfort me a lot regarding the death of my best friend.


Then again maybe that's just how a mushroom thinks. Dunno.

[magnetaress]

I often fear survival in conflict and what I may endure or do. More than death itself.
***heads up really all the trigger warnings***
It's hard to live when death is so comforting. I was around a lot of death and violence in person again recently, multiple death x guns and a stabbing. I said prayers for them and people gave their last rights. I felt great empathy and worry for the victim of the stabbing. More so that others still needed her and her potential.

In the end though it all was super peaceful. I really do feel like they went to better places. I even prayed for the soul of the stabber. A few of the deaths where unrelated to that and I truly felt it was there time to part from their bodies.

In some ways I feel that I have a duty to bare life out. Because this is it. This is the only one like this with this ego. There's a certain duty to others. I cannot hurt. And also the G-d thing. That keeps me going I guess. Albeit somewhat timidly because I don't want personally to be involved in harmful actions, thoughts, or words. Butt part of life is dealing with it. I cry a lot lately too when faced with danger directly. Which is liberating because it's better than feeling hatred and aversion. It's a lot easier in some ways to be a bystander than to have to personally face it all again.

[Pulgasari]

Nihilism is for timid souls who go quietly into the night, or for psychopaths with a conscious.

I'm interested in the second part, unless it was a typo. :p

[magnetaress]

I'm interested in the second part, unless it was a typo. :p

It's probably more challenging to be an apath around hoomans than not. And that doesn't mean apaths don't suffer anyway. Even if they don't really feel it.

[arvidez]

I'm interested in the second part, unless it was a typo. :p

im a good boy born into a body destined to do bad things.

[magnetaress]

Was Moses a good or bad boi?

[Pulgasari]

im a good boy born into a body destined to do bad things.

I'll not tolerate ill grammar from a vulgarian.

[Castle2.0]

blind leading the blind thread, sheesh.

[Duik]

Crypto. Philosophy. World Records.
All round experts are awesome.
Just cut us mortals some slack and let us grow and learn.
Sure, we'll make mistakes but that's all part of the (our) journey.

I'll be sure to check ya sig if i need further tutelage...

[magnetaress]

The point of the journey is to not need earth 2.0 again when the time comes and to be at peace / harmony with existence / non-existence. Earth 1.0 is a prison house. We are meant to end suffering by learning to care about others and face hatred.

[arvidez]

Was Moses a good or bad boi?

i cant even pretend to understand that story. my best answer is that he was a bad boi put to good use.

[SorenVC]

Fatalism destroys every other philosophy because it answers everything by itself.

[Tnair]

i cant even pretend to understand that story. my best answer is that he was a bad boi put to good use.

moses was a boi with Connections

good or bad wasnt relevant.. he knew a Guy who could help when help was needed. (and then he took that Guy home and people merged with the Guy who was already there and it became confusing mix of Merciful and Jealously Angry)

re: nihilism, i knew someone who uses the term "hyper nihilist" about his own beliefs to describe believing in deities as a stand in for our (current?) inability to grasp the reality of nothingness. almost a reverse nihilism, where nihilism itself is both a symbol and a goal

[Pulgasari]

Fatalism destroys every other philosophy because it answers everything by itself.

Calvinist codswallop my good chum

https://i.imgur.com/XOCTpaa.png

[Ciderpress]

I think we can all agree Fatalism is certainly the coolest sounding philosophy on offer.

Nihilism is pretty cool at first, as a teen I felt pretty edgy declaring that I don't care about ANYTHING MANNN. But then I caught wind of the word "fatalism" and instantly knew that was way cooler and better.

Then I heard the ben folds song 'bastard' and it's wise refrain: "It's okay if you don't know everything" and instantly felt much more like a person and less like a gross antisocial nerd.

[Patriam1066]

Calvinist codswallop my good chum

https://i.imgur.com/XOCTpaa.png

You marry a guy yet? :)

[arvidez]

Taoism > fatalism.

[Pulgasari]

You marry a guy yet? :)

no I don't think that's allowed either (https://www.weddingwire.com/wedding-forums/catholic-communion-when-most-guests-not-catholic/e4ed52eb6d83a57d.html)

bazinga