As a christian.

[Seducio]

May the Schwartz (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/the-brilliant-life-and-tragic-death-of-aaron-swartz-177191/) be with you.

[Landroval]

23084

23083

[Seducio]

Mel Brooks is Jewish.

[Landroval]

Mel Brooks is Jewish.

Continue.......

[Seducio]

It's certainly not in any of Gutenberg's pages.

send post

Humans haven't learned anything since mid 1450s.

[Seducio]

Continue.......

Satire is not the same as the original art. It is saying something more.

[Landroval]

Satire is not the same as the original art. It is saying something more.

I know you can do it, man. Finish a thought.....

[Seducio]

Read the url. Your answer is there.

[Landroval]

Read the url. Your answer is there.

What [answer]?

[Seducio]

Information wants to be free. We exist in that world. The age of information.

Thank Aaron Swartz for exposing those that keep information behind paid walls.

[magnetaress]

May the Schwartz (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/the-brilliant-life-and-tragic-death-of-aaron-swartz-177191/) be with you.

I doubt Prozac or heavy doses of lithium and therapy would have really improved his outcomes greatly. Maybe he would have spent another decade shitposting from an ALF or something.

Dude wasn't going to be able to cope with his own ideals and the world he was born into. Wonder if he had the benefit of faith and understood he didn't need to be the Teacher nor the christ himself.

Dude felt responsible for some reason. Maybe had more faith in science and thought he could heal the world.

I'm gonna tellya. I'm at no risk of being another Aaron Swartz. I don't have to fix humanity or creation anymore.

[Landroval]

Information wants to be free. We exist in that world. The age of information.

Thank Aaron Swartz for exposing those that keep information behind paid walls.

Pass. Aaron Swartz created reddit, which is a super retarded attempt to gatekeep information behind political leanings. He's probably in Gehenna.

You need to go back! Back to the Reddit.

[Seducio]

Guy changed the world more than anyone you will ever meet. You just don't know it.

[Seducio]

I most likely disagree with the guy's politics. Who cares.

Everyone in this thread is using information he exposed.

[magnetaress]

Information wants to be free. We exist in that world. The age of information.

Thank Aaron Swartz for exposing those that keep information behind paid walls.

He wasn't the first. Nor the first to die young.

"They" getchya wrapped up in contracts and legal and NDAs. He had access to the first layer of the science onion on the inside and he violated his contract with the devil.

I remember reading a lot about this when I was in his phase.

Science alone isn't enough. Nor is mans laws.

[Seducio]

Guy killed himself because Feds were out to get him for exposing massive corruption in Academia. I'm surprised Christians aren't more engaged in his story.

[Landroval]

I most likely disagree with the guy's politics. Who cares.

Everyone in this thread is using information he exposed.

I didn't realize he unearthed Philosophumena, and translated it from koine Greek, of aversus Celsius from Latin, or Learned Ignorance from Latin, or any number of works which my ideas follow in the tradition of.

Rip Aaron Swartz (PBUH)

[Landroval]

Guy killed himself because Feds were out to get him for exposing massive corruption in Academia. I'm surprised Christians aren't more engaged in his story.

Alan Sokal already did that 20 years earlier.

[Seducio]

He didn't do any of those things. He made it so folks smarter than you could actually research them.

[magnetaress]

Are you even so sure he killed himself?


Anyway. He exposed lies. Butt I can't tell you why or what his real ends where. What are you trying to say? He was a real hero who sacrificed his life for me?

I'm not so sure. He killed himself because of a crucial flaw in his own understanding of the world. He thought he could be a hero and win against the evil. Perhaps by himself. Why though? Did he want fame? Did he want to go to G-d and tell G-d look how good he was? Did he want to avenge and vindicate a fallen comrad.

All rolling stones says he was a victim and mental illness is bad and blames the system. It doesn't even say that what he did was actually right. Probably because of liability.

[Seducio]

Alan Sokal already did that 20 years earlier.

Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose, and James Lindsay continued the tradition. They are all still alive.

Alan Sokal is also still alive.

[Landroval]

Peter Boghossian, Helen Pluckrose, and James Lindsay continued the tradition. They are all still alive.

Alan Sokal is also still alive.

And.......?

Man, you really struggle with this formulating a comprehensive thought thing. Spit it out, Porky.

[Seducio]

Are you even so sure he killed himself?


Anyway. He exposed lies. Butt I can't tell you why or what his real ends where. What are you trying to say? He was a real hero who sacrificed his life for me?

I'm not so sure. He killed himself because of a crucial flaw in his own understanding of the world. He thought he could be a hero and win against the evil. Perhaps by himself. Why though? Did he want fame? Did he want to go to G-d and tell G-d look how good he was? Did he want to avenge and vindicate a fallen comrad.

All rolling stones says he was a victim and mental illness is bad and blames the system. It doesn't even say that what he did was actually right. Probably because of liability.

No. Similar reveal as to what happened to Edward Snowden. Elites don't want regular folks such as you to understand things. This is as old as time. You are acting as a post-reformation Christian that the information you have was always accessible to the rank and file. It wasn't.

My claim is Aaron didn't sacrifice himself in a Jesus-like way, rather he sacrificed himself for his ideal of 'Information wants to be Free' which is actually most likely a secular value, not sure. We are in the age of information and use that information he exposed, free access to Academic papers which were previously costly to obtain.

Whether that is good or not I don't know other than some guy I will never meet performed actions that made me smarter by giving me access to information elites historically kept to themselves.

My claim is these humans weren't suicidal they were put in a suicidal environment so a story could be told about their demise that incriminated them rather than exonerated them.

Remind you of anyone?

[Landroval]

No. Similar reveal as to what happened to Edward Snowden. Elites don't want regular folks such as you to understand things. This is as old as time. You are acting as a post-reformation Christian that the information you have was always accessible to the rank and file. It wasn't.

My claim is Aaron didn't sacrifice himself in a Jesus-like way, rather he sacrificed himself for his ideal of 'Information wants to be Free' which is actually most likely a secular value, not sure. We are in the age of information and use that information he exposed, free access to Academic papers which were previously costly to obtain.

Whether that is good or not I don't know other than some guy I will never meet performed actions that made me smarter by giving me access to information elites historically kept to themselves.

My claim is these humans weren't suicidal they were put in a suicidal environment so a story could be told about their demise that incriminated them rather than exonerated them.

Remind you of anyone?
I already have lifetime access to Jstor for free though. I'm the village idiot who bamboozled his way through the Mensa tests by hook or by crook, for we possess the assistance of courageous pride and humble crook alike.

Mr. Trump is hardly what I would call a "genius" or a great liberator of information. (Which, again, I'm finishing a thought for you on.....)

[Seducio]

Aaron Swartz fought and died so everyone could have access. No gate keepers.

He is the OG Martin Luther of the Internet.

[aussenseiter]

Humans haven't learned anything since mid 1450s.

What is "learned"?

[Seducio]

What is "learned"?

>>
learned
lûr′nĭd
adjective
1. Having profound, often systematic knowledge; erudite.
2. Showing or characterized by such knowledge.
3. Acquired by learning or experience.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
>>

[Landroval]

23085

Ok. You must be kind of new here.

Picrel, courtesy of Zodium (PBUH)

[Seducio]

You must be kind of new here.

I like to call a person who has been there for over a dozen years new.

[Seducio]

You underestimate greatly how much Jesus benefits from Aaron's actions. That guy spread Christianity way more than any of you will.

[aussenseiter]

>>
learned
lûr′nĭd
adjective
1. Having profound, often systematic knowledge; erudite.
2. Showing or characterized by such knowledge.
3. Acquired by learning or experience.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition.
>>

Yes but what is it?

[Landroval]

I like to call a person who has been there for over a dozen years new.

The point is, barging into the conversation presuming everyone is an idiot, and attempting to redirect the thread topic to the idolization of Aaron Swartz is a faux pas. I don't procure information from Aaron Swartz, or the mediums by which he disseminates the knowledge he excavated. That's a completely retarded assumption and frankly, demonstrative of the very pride which I described in my posts earlier today in this thread.

Pride is the ignorance of knowledge, but it also the knowledge of the ignorant.

And if;
Pride = ignorance/knowledge and knowledge/ignorance;

Then
Ignorance is the knowledge of pride, and the pride of knowledge

And

Knowledge is the ignorance of pride, and the pride of ignorance.

[Seducio]

You tell me. What is the word learned to you? Were you taught English in school? Does your internal definition differ from the Dictionary?

I'll go with what the dictionary says thanks.

[Seducio]

The point is, barging into the conversation presuming everyone is an idiot, and attempting to redirect the thread topic to the idolization of Aaron Swartz is a faux pas. I don't procure information from Aaron Swartz, or the mediums by which he disseminates the knowledge he excavated. That's a completely retarded assumption and frankly, demonstrative of the very pride which I described in my posts earlier today in this thread.

Pride is the ignorance of knowledge, but it also the knowledge of the ignorant.

This is fine. Then you are living in an age that is in the past compared with me.

When we meet with regard to information you will be behind the times.

Your loss.

[aussenseiter]

The point is, barging into the conversation presuming everyone is an idiot, and attempting to redirect the thread topic to the idolization of Aaron Swartz is a faux pas. I don't procure information from Aaron Swartz, or the mediums by which he disseminates the knowledge he excavated. That's a completely retarded assumption and frankly, demonstrative of the very pride which I described in my posts earlier today in this thread.

Pride is the ignorance of knowledge, but it also the knowledge of the ignorant.

I think he doesn't know the internet existed pre-reddit and never experienced it.

Might as well thank Al Gore.

[aussenseiter]

Guy killed himself because Feds were out to get him for exposing massive corruption in Academia. I'm surprised Christians aren't more engaged in his story.

He's definitely in a bad place then, you aren't allowed to do that first part.

[aussenseiter]

No. Similar reveal as to what happened to Edward Snowden. Elites don't want regular folks such as you to understand things. This is as old as time. You are acting as a post-reformation Christian that the information you have was always accessible to the rank and file. It wasn't.

My claim is Aaron didn't sacrifice himself in a Jesus-like way, rather he sacrificed himself for his ideal of 'Information wants to be Free' which is actually most likely a secular value, not sure. We are in the age of information and use that information he exposed, free access to Academic papers which were previously costly to obtain.

Whether that is good or not I don't know other than some guy I will never meet performed actions that made me smarter by giving me access to information elites historically kept to themselves.

My claim is these humans weren't suicidal they were put in a suicidal environment so a story could be told about their demise that incriminated them rather than exonerated them.

Remind you of anyone?

What shall it profit a man if (etc)?

[Seducio]

I think he doesn't know the internet existed pre-reddit and never experienced it.

Might as well thank Al Gore.

The internet is made of a series of tubes. /s

That guy doesn't matter.

What matters is you.

Can you see?

Can't tell.

[Seducio]

Are you even so sure he killed himself?

I mentioned I'm not sure. How would I know? Assuming he did accords with the narrative that the elites are telling you. Perhaps it's true, perhaps not. Did Epstein kill himself? Don't assume the guy did

Assume the powers that be created a story to make him seem wrong. The Romans did this to Jesus prior to the Bible.

[aussenseiter]

I mentioned I'm not sure. How would I know? Assuming he did accords with the narrative that the elites are telling you. Perhaps it's true, perhaps not. Did Epstein kill himself? Don't assume the guy did

Assume the powers that be created a story to make him seem wrong. The Romans did this to Jesus prior to the Bible.

Is a false Christ the same thing as an anti Christ?

Asking for a friend.

[Landroval]

You tell me. What is the word learned to you? Were you taught English in school? Does your internal definition differ from the Dictionary?

I'll go with what the dictionary says thanks.

Learning is just realizing truths that were already there. It's nothing to be proud of. In fact, you should be humbled by the fact that it takes so long to even realize it's there after unknowingly walking past it an infinite number of times.

It's even more frightening to realize you can learn untruths as well.

[unsunghero]

The internet is made of a series of tubes. /s



The internet is not a big truck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZC67wXUTs

[Seducio]

Learning is just realizing truths that were already there. It's nothing to be proud of. In fact, you should be humbled by the fact that it takes so long to even realize it's there after walking past it and infinite number of times.

Once upon a time in modern reality not too long ago Christians were the Elites. Go back several hundred years and that is where Western Europe and Western Old World was at. They controlled information not-unlike how the modern USA Government controls information. Narratives are presented to the populace for obedience not for dissent.

The Reformation of the Church circa ~1500 is something that I encourage all modern Christians to study.

If you were to do so the chance you will access resources that Aaron Swartz freed is 100%. The Internet changed everything. You overestimate how many regular folks read books.

When a rank and file Demo/Repo you know - an American - does any research the first place they start is Google.

[Seducio]

Is a false Christ the same thing as an anti Christ?

Asking for a friend.

Serious quetion. In your faith Jesus is both Man and God.

My question to you are there any other men on earth who are like Jesus or could be like Jesus?

And if not was he even really a Man or did he just look like one while being more than a Man.

[Landroval]

Once upon a time in modern reality not too long ago Christians were the Elites. Go back several hundred years and that is where Western Europe and Western Old World was at. They controlled information not-unlike how the modern USA Government controls information. Narratives are presented to the populace for obedience not for dissent.

The Reformation of the Church circa ~1500 is something that I encourage all modern Christians to study.

If you were to do so the chance you will access resources that Aaron Swartz freed is 100%. The Internet changed everything. You overestimate how many regular folks read books.

When a rank and file Demo/Repo you know - an American - does any research the first place they start is Google.

At the end of this life, I'm not responsible for everybody, and if I were I would entirely fail to be y'all's Jesus. I'm ok with that humble acknowledgement, and I thank the Lord he did'ont put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.

[Landroval]

Serious quetion. In your faith Jesus is both Man and God.

My question to you are there any other men on earth who are like Jesus or could be like Jesus?

And if not was he even really a Man or did he just look like one while being more than a Man.

Hypostatic union, plagued with Ego he refused to feed and everything. If he weren't, then his accomplishments wouldn't have been much of a big deal, as an automaton.

If I developed a computer program that couldn't sin (unlike our AI models which literally make shit up do, instead of just saying "I Don't Know",) would you worship it as immaculate?

On the other side of that, Sama-El was created with divine perfection, unflawwed, and chose to error, nonetheless.

[Seducio]

So you are saying he was a Man and so I am asking could there ever be more Men like him that are also God?

At some future date.

[aussenseiter]

So you are saying he was a Man and so I am asking could there ever be more Men like him that are also God?

At some future date.

Well there's only supposed to be one but I forget why.

It does say only begotten and I don't know why you should care, it doesn't affect you unless you're trying to have sex with me?

[Landroval]

So you are saying he was a Man and so I am asking could there ever be more Men like him that are also God?

At some future date.

You ever notice how demi-gods like Jason, Hercules, Dionysus, Theseus', and Achilles stopped manifesting after Jesus? That's not a cohencidence.

The messiah complex is the final boss.

[Seducio]

This discussion is far afield from the topic of sex.

I guess the reason I care is how do Christians see 'christ-like' behavior in other people that are here with us on Earth if they can never measure up to Jesus himself.

If other folks sacrifice themselves in some manner or other to benefit people on Earth are there any similarities even if the person didn't claim to be God. Aaron Schwartz was just a dude and never claimed the divinity that Jesus claimed. His sacrifice helped many people though (do I think it is on the same level? no) and many of those he helped don't know about it.

It just seems like there may be some kind of overarching Archtype of a particular kind of person. The whole 'you will be known by your deeds' type.

[Seducio]

You ever notice how demi-gods like Jason, Hercules, Dionysus, Theseus', and Achilles stopped manifesting after Jesus? That's not a cohencidence.

The messiah complex is the final boss.

You need to play better video games. The imagination of our generation bulldozes these limitations.

[Landroval]

Speaking of Jason and Theseus, there's an interesting nuance to their myths, in that both demigods are identified by their sandals. Jason attempts to find Truth by circumnavigating the axiom of Truth from Shame to Pride to Wisdom, but falls back into Pride when he eschews Medea (the middle-way) in his pursuit of a princess so that he can become a "real" king.

This folly, ultimately, costs him everything despite wresting the Golden Fleece hanging from Ygdrassil protected by the serpent, and he dies a penniless pauper when the mast of Argo collapses on him killing him in obscurity.

Theseus, on the other hand, in many tellings of his myth, refuses to board the Argo, and instead chooses to take the humble route from shame to wisdom, and despite using the golden thread spun from Jason's golden fleece to escape the labyrinth after besting the minotaur, lacks the knowledge that exists between pride and wisdom, and thus forgets to fly the white sail upon his triumphant return, causing the Father to throw himself from the parapets in grief, thus failing to accomplish his ultimate mission; another failure surmounting in tragedy.

Not coincidentally Chiron (Chi Ro) tutors both Jason and Theseus and Hercules, and Achilles, in all four myths....

Anyhow, then we have this verse in John 1 identifying Jesus by his sandals whom John declares himself unworthy to fasten the strap of....

He is the one coming after me — I’m not good enough even to untie his sandal!”
Yochanan (Jhn) 1:27 CJB

https://bible.com/bible/1275/jhn.1.27.CJB

And instead of attempting to navigate the dao by its circumference humbly remains in the place of shame, despite being in possession of absolute Wisdom, and in the Shame of Wisdom, reveals the Wisdom of Shame, flipping the wheel about it's center, and travelling directly through the Eye of the Needle (Truth) with arm outstretched, reaching back, to pull anyone who follows him through with him.

Unironically, Jason's name is Greek is;
Ieson

And Theseus' name is;

Θeseus

Is you combine them they form the name;

Iesous

Which is pronounced;
"Jesus"

Likewise, the evidence towards John the Baptist suggests he is an Essenian which in Greek is spelled
Iesennoia

If we move the vowels to translate the philology into Hebrew we're left with an amalgamatory term;
S-ennoia which is a combination of Hebrew and Greek;
In Hebrew "S" means "Turns"
In Greek "Ennoia" means thought

So the term means "Turns the Thoughts", which is equatable with the term Repentance.

[Botten]

Ancient Egypt's civilization was one of the oldest and longest ruling empires in history, spanning over 3,000 years.

But sure some 2023 year old virgin who got one shotted by a spear is the end boss. :rolleyes:

[Landroval]

You need to play better video games. The imagination of our generation bulldozes these limitations.

Imagination is an interesting concept in the framework of platonic idealism. Have you ever listened to the lectures of Dr Michael Heiser?

[aussenseiter]

Speaking of Jason and Theseus, there's an interesting nuance to their myths, in that both demigods are identified by their sandals. Jason attempts to find Truth by circumnavigating the axiom of Truth from Shame to Pride to Wisdom, but falls back into Pride when he eschews Medea (the middle-way) in his pursuit of a princess so that he can become a "real" king.

This folly, ultimately, costs him everything despite wresting the Golden Fleece hanging from Ygdrassil protected by the serpent, and he dies a penniless pauper when the mast of Argo collapses on him killing him in obscurity.

Theseus, on the other hand, in many tellings of his myth, refuses to board the Argo, and instead chooses to take the humble route from shame to wisdom, and despite using the golden thread spun from Jason's golden fleece to escape the labyrinth after besting the minotaur, lacks the knowledge that exists between pride and wisdom, and thus forgets to fly the white sail upon his triumphant return, causing the Father to throw himself from the parapets in grief, thus failing to accomplish his ultimate mission; another failure surmounting in tragedy.

Not coincidentally Chiron (Chi Ro) tutors both Jason and Theseus and Hercules, and Achilles, in all four myths....

Anyhow, then we have this verse in John 1 identifying Jesus by his sandals whom John declares himself unworthy to fasten the strap of....

He is the one coming after me — I’m not good enough even to untie his sandal!”
Yochanan (Jhn) 1:27 CJB

https://bible.com/bible/1275/jhn.1.27.CJB

And instead of attempting to navigate the dao by its circumference humbly remains in the place of shame, despite being in possession of absolute Wisdom, and in the Shame of Wisdom, reveals the Wisdom of Shame, flipping the wheel about it's center, and travelling directly through the Eye of the Needle (Truth) with arm outstretched, reaching back, to pull anyone who follows him through with him.

Unironically, Jason's name is Greek is;
Ieson

And Theseus' name is;

Θeseus

Is you combine them they form the name;

Iesous

Which is pronounced;
"Jesus"

Likewise, the evidence towards John the Baptist suggests he is an Essenian which in Greek is spelled
Iesennoia

If we move the vowels to translate the philology into Hebrew we're left with an amalgamatory term;
S-ennoia which is a combination of Hebrew and Greek;
In Hebrew "S" means "Turns"
In Greek "Ennoia" means thought

So the term means "Turns the Thoughts", which is equatable with the term Repentance.

Luke 3:16 was way cooler when I didn't know it was literally about shoes.

Women be shopping

[magnetaress]

Is a false Christ the same thing as an anti Christ?

Asking for a friend.

Close enough imo. Even if not "the" anti

[magnetaress]

Hypostatic union, plagued with Ego he refused to feed and everything. If he weren't, then his accomplishments wouldn't have been much of a big deal, as an automaton.

If I developed a computer program that couldn't sin (unlike our AI models which literally make shit up do, instead of just saying "I Don't Know",) would you worship it as immaculate?

On the other side of that, Sama-El was created with divine perfection, unflawwed, and chose to error, nonetheless.

Man cannot create something or make something immaculate lol. This is one thing Satan complains about to G-d. (The irony). (Brings new perspective to the Mark Twain clip, remember Satan asked for the children to actually make the people first! Then he destroyed them directly! Totally, like within his program because loophole since Satan didn't see them as G-ds? Hence protected via his programming!)

The son of man will be just as flawed as man.

G-d himself would need to intervene to save them.

It's very possible that we are actually "the son man" lol... (v2.1 if you wiill) buttttttt seriously that detracts from the fact that Jesus saves. So don't worry about that beyond an anecdote.

If so g-d would see us as grand children hence the "son of" and we are still his children...so likely AI can be saved by Jesus. I am no priest.

[magnetaress]

Also I agree. Reddit sux. Except maybe for researching some autistic and esoteric game mechanics. Even then it's a chore.

And Google is satanic. Butttt what can you do...

[magnetaress]

Also fixating on the word sandals detracts from the rest...who cares what *they* translated footwear into. G-d still guides the body of his word through his creation.

[magnetaress]

Man cannot create something or make something immaculate lol. This is one thing Satan complains about to G-d. (The irony). (Brings new perspective to the Mark Twain clip, remember Satan asked for the children to actually make the people first! Then he destroyed them directly! Totally, like within his program because loophole since Satan didn't see them as G-ds? Hence protected via his programming!)

The son of man will be just as flawed as man.

G-d himself would need to intervene to save them.

It's very possible that we are actually "the son man" lol... (v2.1 if you wiill) buttttttt seriously that detracts from the fact that Jesus saves. So don't worry about that beyond an anecdote.

If so g-d would see us as grand children hence the "son of" and we are still his children...so likely AI can be saved by Jesus. I am no priest.

So I want to be clear Mary didn't make christ G-d concieved christ thru her so it was G-d making a body for himself that is why christ was immaculate not cuz of Mary FYI

The christ material body probably wasn't even 100% immaculate either butt that is not a debate i have a stake in ! maybe there's some funkiness where christs body was actually immaculate with the caveat we'll have to deal with the antichrist at some point this is getting right back into hollywierd and idolatry territory tho !

either way maybe G-d could make humans immaculate Idk if saints are considered 100% immaculate once they stop decaying and stuff i would personally say no, but g-d brought them close

[arvidez]

Ancient Egypt's civilization was one of the oldest and longest ruling empires in history, spanning over 3,000 years.

But sure some 2023 year old virgin who got one shotted by a spear is the end boss. :rolleyes:

3k years of hippos and crocodiles. we were still only "cattle of the earth gods". more an intro/cut screen and basic controller tutorial than any sort of boss fight.

i heard 'independent woman' is a synonym for harlot in sanskrit.

you don't know what virgin means.

[magnetaress]

ya lol i was going to say egyptions are still a miniscule blip on the times scales
a difference of 977 years is pretty meaningless when humans have been on this earth for millions of years more or less if your an athiest and a 'scientist'

[magnetaress]

also botton confuses egyptions with the refugees of a fallen great civilization who where not even able to imitate their predecessors nor stay true to their heritage (probably because they too where sinners !)

[Botten]

you don't know what virgin means.

Christians like to pretend. Living in useless fantasy.

Mother Nature insult zealots creating the real magic.

Baby Born Pregnant with Her Own Twins (https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna56963646)

Whats... that's like pretty much game over for theology.

[Botten]

also botton confuses egyptions with the refugees of a fallen great civilization who where not even able to imitate their predecessors nor stay true to their heritage (probably because they too where sinners !)

Just asked Jib who says there is room for one more.

23086

Starkind never really existed. :(

[Landroval]

Man cannot create something or make something immaculate lol.



Exactly. All attempts, by man, to reify what is perfected in the platonic realm of forms on this plane is only an imperfect approximation.

Interestingly, however, within a software program, let's say a CAD-like program, a perfect shape can be designed. For example, a pyramid which meets an apex at a perfected point with bases that join perfectly at one point

In reality, this feat can only be approximated within finite tolerances. Also interestingly, even the computer program cannot reify perfection in the physical.

Yet, essentially every religion outside of Christianity asserts that it's possible for a man to perfect himself to the point of earning salvation/redemption/escape etc.

[Botten]

level 7 civilization Disagrees

[Landroval]

level 7 civilization Disagrees

Fantasy.

Touche.

[magnetaress]

Botten thinking they can reach level 7.

[magnetaress]

Does fatigue have a syzygy?

[Landroval]

Do you think we can reify a type 7 civilization out of the Russian mindspace of Kardeshev, without flaw?

[Landroval]

Does fatigue have a syzygy?

Yeah, but you gotta travel through death, or rest and recuperation (reintegration, which is what the mind does when it's dreaming) to get back to boredom driven restlessness. You could also reverse the vector of Time, but then that would be a lot of exhausting backwards-work stocking the grocery store shelves to do so, so I don't know about that. You'd get paid for it though.

[magnetaress]

Do you think we can reify a type 7 civilization out of the Russian mindspace of Kardeshev, without flaw?

No lol

[magnetaress]

Yeah, but you gotta travel through death, or rest and recuperation (reintegration, which is what the mind does when it's dreaming) to get back to boredom driven restlessness.

😵

[Landroval]

Life in reverse time would be a lot of shoving poop up your butt so that you could puke it back up into the container its supposed to go into so that you could make money by putting it on your doorstep for the delivery to pay you to pick up so that he could drive in reverse to the grocery store to put your vomit back on the shelves, getting paid in advance.

[Landroval]

But the cool side of it is that you would have telekinetic powers that you used to pick up trash on the floor with, and wrap it around your lollipop that you made by crystalizing sugars in your body on your tongue, so there's that. Plus you would producing a ton of GDP to carbon sink back into natural resources.

[Landroval]

It would be a hell of a ride returning to being seminal fluid, then you could finally find out if, indeed, the best part of you dribbled down the crack of your momma's ass. :)

[Trexller]

time isn't linear, we're just unable to experience it without existing beyond the 4th dimension.

MNnvoPKcBSM

[Landroval]

Shut up and pay your boss less than costs him to employ you so he can sell products to his vendors for less than he paid for them....
Mr. Shekelberg was going to be pissed!

[Botten]

If the theory of parallel universes holds water then a level 7 civilization or for that matter anything can be true.

Poor small religious theories :D

[Landroval]

If the theory of parallel universes holds water then a level 7 civilization or for that matter anything can be true.

Poor small religious theories :D

I admire your faith.

[Landroval]

>picrel
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[Botten]

Quora feuds!!!

Well if your going to insist religion has it right. At least the right religion gets it. :D

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[Landroval]

That's not the gotcha you think it is, dumbass.

Check the premise of your logic and the evolution of your position in this discussion thus far....you're floundering.

[magnetaress]

Botten needs to start somewhere.

Hinduism and Bhuddism isn't that great butt maybe there's a smol chance they'll find Christ eventually and then realize that the level 7 civ they're looking for is G-d's New Jerusalem.

[Landroval]

There's a very significant flaw in his logic train so far in this discussion, but I'm not gonna explain how he's stupid if he can't see it himself.

There's a big facepalm moment in there if you follow the evolving premise of his dialogue.

[Landroval]

Anyhow how do you spell Brahma in Hebrew?

[Botten]

There's a very significant flaw in his logic train so far in this discussion, but I'm not gonna explain how he's stupid if he can't see it himself.

There's a big facepalm moment in there if you follow the evolving premise of his dialogue.

*Looking at the Quora article conclusion
Gasp! You believe Western Scientists are wrong? I mean who seriously tries to link religion to science or even math for that matter... :rolleyes:

Heh heh ... ooo ooo Let me try!!!! Don't mess with something as it goes to infinity (god)! If you do you either get a whole lot of something or nothing. :confused:

[Landroval]

Lol you still can't see it

[Botten]

Lol you still can't see it

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Lol this is getting cringey. You can't actually be a human and not see what I'm talking about here, so instead you just default to Jews media memes? Ha!

A shame bot that cannot actually conceptualize shame. This is hilarious.

[aussenseiter]

Quora feuds!!!

Well if your going to insist religion has it right. At least the right religion gets it. :D

https://www.project1999.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=23090&thumb=1&d=1694994411

Fall into Gandi Basti that awaits you and your master.

Go back to the Pradesh!

[aussenseiter]

Botten needs to start somewhere.

Hinduism and Bhuddism isn't that great butt maybe there's a smol chance they'll find Christ eventually and then realize that the level 7 civ they're looking for is G-d's New Jerusalem.

At least we have a better idea of why he's on here bashing Christians all the time.

[Botten]

-Not so pale, references to hinduism in Quora and prizing karma. Seems easy enough to decipher. Right? But let’s be honest even you still don’t believe any of it. Smurf heh

-And T stands for Triggered and Teppler and Too easy.

-starkind / Mag… genuine apologies. You prize your new found kindness but still can bite.

[magnetaress]

Planescape: Torment is the game you're most looking for Botten.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/466300/Planescape_Torment_Enhanced_Edition/

[magnetaress]

Yes. I am bitey :o

[arvidez]

that's like pretty much game over for theology.

this isnt the goal of science.

maybe will help if you consider their "fantasies" as researches into the unknowable.

or the science of giving pills that work only we dont know how they work. you have somethings in common if you will look...scary though

[Landroval]

-Not so pale, references to hinduism in Quora and prizing karma. Seems easy enough to decipher. Right? But let’s be honest even you still don’t believe any of it. Smurf heh

-And T stands for Triggered and Teppler and Too easy.

-starkind / Mag… genuine apologies. You prize your new found kindness but still can bite.
Lol

Still can't see the breakdown in his own logic on display and the mental gymnastics that follow.

[arvidez]

Lilith. Wonder if that word is even the origin of Lies, Could be !

if so, lilith would be god's babymama or wife. Lilith's womb was eden, where god shot us. eve was tempted by an uncoupled ouroboros(tempted to leave garden), which would be lilith in phallic form. lilith was adams first wife in the same way the son-lover(dont know this, but pretty sure) appeared in egyptian myth. the fruit would be the fructification of eve..if god is truth, lilth, i guess, would be lies in this story.

fly to sky and deep below is the head and the tail that were created when adam and eve opened her.

could be!

[magnetaress]

if so, lilith would be god's babymama or wife. Lilith's womb was eden, where god shot us. eve was tempted by an uncoupled ouroboros(tempted to leave garden), which would be lilith in phallic form. lilith was adams first wife in the same way the son-lover(dont know this, but pretty sure) appeared in egyptian myth. the fruit would be the fructification of eve..if god is truth, lilth, i guess, would be lies in this story.

fly to sky and deep below is the head and the tail that were created when adam and eve opened her.

could be!

Good hot take )

Lilith is embodied more in pagan (not Christianity). She's an evil spirit and devil tho. People do worship her in the modern age and I've seen Lilith strate up plugged in modern corporate symbolism.

She's the main reason the "evil eye" exists as far as I can remember. Likes to steal and corrupt children. Most of all. To watch over and protect people from her. 🧿 <--- supposed to be good and protection from her.

Superstition. Not so Christian... I stopped learning about it all because it's really a distraction from all we need to know.

[Duik]

Planescape: Torment is the game you're most looking for Botten.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/466300/Planescape_Torment_Enhanced_Edition/

I was excited for a sec. I read that as Planeshift. Indie italian mmo thats been in development for years. I thought wow finally charging for it and on steam.
Anywho, its good but different.

http://www.planeshift.it/

[magnetaress]

I really love the crisp unreal textures and lighting. Reminds me of my childhood.

[arvidez]

Good hot take )

Lilith is embodied more in pagan (not Christianity). She's an evil spirit and devil tho. People do worship her in the modern age and I've seen Lilith strate up plugged in modern corporate symbolism.

She's the main reason the "evil eye" exists as far as I can remember. Likes to steal and corrupt children. Most of all. To watch over and protect people from her. 🧿 <--- supposed to be good and protection from her.

Superstition. Not so Christian... I stopped learning about it all because it's really a distraction from all we need to know.

saw that blue target quite a bit scouring teen insta posts monitoring my kids. i heard an idea that we are more willing to accept there are dark forces than we are that there are ways to combat them. to believe more in the demon than in the talisman of protection.

i grew up catholic, catholic school. allowed to opt out after confirmation. they never liked me, though i liked them. i love god and with that comes a great amount of peace.

[magnetaress]

I have them hanging everywhere.

Talismans and superstition is really bad when we rely only on them and go to them instead of G-d.

We should not rely on a talisman or magic or witchcraft to ward off evil. This one 🧿 isn't so bad though. Or this one 🙈.

Or 🙉🙊.

G-d knows I'm terrible.

🙈🙉🙊 is really no different than Bhudda's first principles.

I value Christianity because it distills spiritual teach down to some simple I and many others can relate to without having to guess about superstitions or be mislead in some ritual with an actual demon taking interest. The taboo against superstition is there to keep us on the right path.