Current state of blue vs. green?

[EQBallzz]

I haven't logged into P99 in a long time. If the pop counter is correct it looks like green has twice the active pop of blue? Is that accurate? I logged into blue and ran around a bit (between swamp and EC) and felt pretty dead but don't even remember how busy it was when I last played years ago so can't really tell how much more dead it might be (if at all).

[Valakut]

most of the hardcore raiders play both, casual raid scene died a year into velious now its all hardcore raiders lurking on alts to sponge up more raid loot, casual non raiders show up mostly on the weekends or in the evening. blue trade scene is dead its all chardok loot in the tunnel but supposedly people use discord pretty effectively even though thats not classic.

a new tlp is overdue but if theres enough to launch a TLP without affecting blue and green remains to be seen.

[EQBallzz]

most of the hardcore raiders play both, casual raid scene died a year into velious now its all hardcore raiders lurking on alts to sponge up more raid loot, casual non raiders show up mostly on the weekends or in the evening. blue trade scene is dead its all chardok loot in the tunnel but supposedly people use discord pretty effectively even though thats not classic.

a new tlp is overdue but if theres enough to launch a TLP without affecting blue and green remains to be seen.

Damn. That's too bad. That is sort of the feeling that I got. I tried to talk in OOC in EC but nobody even bothered to reply. There were a handful of people in the tunnel (mostly AFK) with a few sporadic, sad auctions.

The one thing I wasn't really interested in (raiding) seems to be the only thing that isn't dead. Sad. :(

[enjchanter]

The one thing I wasn't really interested in (raiding) seems to be the only thing that isn't dead. Sad. :(

yeah this is the primary reason the game sux

[branamil]

Blue = museum, barely any XP groups under 45 because they're being powerleveled. Stagnant raid scene, but more chill people because it doesn't really matter as they're on their 11th alt. Dead EC tunnel economy

Green = Bloodthirsty, shrill, and overcamped. The kinda place where someone will petition you at the level 5 Orc Tent because they don't understand social aggro, died to too many orcs, then say you trained and griefed them.

[Glorfinrod]

Haven't been on Blue in a while, but I would also like to point out that Green is much more rife with hella stupid names (compared to what I remember on Blue).

[EQBallzz]

Blue = museum, barely any XP groups under 45 because they're being powerleveled. Stagnant raid scene, but more chill people because it doesn't really matter as they're on their 11th alt. Dead EC tunnel economy

Green = Bloodthirsty, shrill, and overcamped. The kinda place where someone will petition you at the level 5 Orc Tent because they don't understand social aggro, died to too many orcs, then say you trained and griefed them.

Good lord. What has happened to P99? When I played years ago on blue..sure the end game raiding scene was kind of toxic but the rest of the game was pretty good. I found groups everywhere. EC tunnel seemed active enough. It was overall a pretty fun leveling experience and even some of the low end raiding was pretty fun (usually). Seems like any semblance of "classic" EQ might actually be dead dead now. Sad.

[Arvan]

Imagine ever logging into ec tunnel ever again when discordquest exists

[jwargod]

42 Iksar Warrior Muhwife

Had a bad time after coming in after several years (last played when velious came out on p99/blue) trying to find a group as a 40-41 warrior this weekend on blue. There were people doing things, but it was all small groups/duos or power leveling. I even solo'd for awhile and offered this yeti camp in DL to a 40 monk who came by and they didn't respond. Bad luck eventually happened and I had to run out. When I came back, it was the same monk and a 57 shaman with them inside the case. I'm not mad they moved in, I'm mad they didn't take the offer in the first place where I would've left. Why didn't they want to talk? Is socializing that bad on blue?

Very little people want to group in this server or are tribalistic. I did manage to meet a nice Shaman and and monk/paladin yesterday for some pretty good xp, and even a druid lfg today, but there was endless hours of lfg between all that. Not to mention the EC trade tunnel is dead. Did I go to various places to look for a group in my range? Yes, even making sure to talk with some druids or wizards to make sure I moved around in a timely matter. And of course I tipped.

I'm still here lfg, and I'm just going to solo what I can in Dreadlands until I run out of bandages.

[Ripqozko]

42 Iksar Warrior Muhwife

Had a bad time after coming in after several years (last played when velious came out on p99/blue) trying to find a group as a 40-41 warrior this weekend on blue. There were people doing things, but it was all small groups/duos or power leveling. I even solo'd for awhile and offered this yeti camp in DL to a 40 monk who came by and they didn't respond. Bad luck eventually happened and I had to run out. When I came back, it was the same monk and a 57 shaman with them inside the case. I'm not mad they moved in, I'm mad they didn't take the offer in the first place where I would've left. Why didn't they want to talk? Is socializing that bad on blue?

Very little people want to group in this server or are tribalistic. I did manage to meet a nice Shaman and and monk/paladin yesterday for some pretty good xp, and even a druid lfg today, but there was endless hours of lfg between all that. Not to mention the EC trade tunnel is dead. Did I go to various places to look for a group in my range? Yes, even making sure to talk with some druids or wizards to make sure I moved around in a timely matter. And of course I tipped.

I'm still here lfg, and I'm just going to solo what I can in Dreadlands until I run out of bandages.

pugs are pretty hard to find nowadays, on bright side there is some good leveling type guilds to find and make grouping slightly easier. Tunnel is kinda dead cause a lot of folks moved to discord tunnelquest so that ya dont have to sit there all the time.

[Fammaden]

People do PuG all the time on green, but there are a ton of inexperienced people in those PuG's who might drive you crazy. So much laziness, tabbed out autoattacking, afk manasong camp bards....even at the higher levels. If you're used to the hyper efficiency mindset from years of playing here, it gets pretty frustrating at times when only one or two people in a group are pulling their weight.

Part of the problem is on blue the conventional wisdom is that full groups are a waste of time, duo/trio is the min/max approach to XP, and many alts have the gear to make those small configurations really cook. On green generally the PuG's just fill the group, even if its suboptimal or not a needed class. Two tanks? No problem, you're in.

Overall the population disparity and the prevalence of actual new players on green makes blue a more challenging place to LFG for XP.

[FroyoBuggins]

Came back after 20 years two weeks ago, found a solid guild. Got twinked out by generous people randomly, and can confirm the power leveling.

But again, solid guild (Friendly Druids). People have been really nice generally, but yes, I've noticed the population issue, and that's coming from playing PvP where grouping was also a b-word.

It's sadly a natural issue of a 25 year old game with no new content or marketing. I'm staying until I kill a dragon or get to raid the planes.

[cd288]

Damn. That's too bad. That is sort of the feeling that I got. I tried to talk in OOC in EC but nobody even bothered to reply. There were a handful of people in the tunnel (mostly AFK) with a few sporadic, sad auctions.

The one thing I wasn't really interested in (raiding) seems to be the only thing that isn't dead. Sad. :(

I'm honestly not sure what the guy you're replying to is referring to. I buy and sell tons of stuff in the tunnel on Blue all the time. I also play on Green and besides price differences and maybe being slightly faster for a transaction, there's no real difference.

[mycoolrausch]

Blue even post green had a nice PUG path 51-60 with the Hole. But then they slightly nerfed the zem and it's a ghost town again with people back in KC fighting over LCY mobs that are half green. Or plvling.

Buff Hole zem like 1% but widely announce it on the front page with bold letters and stuff and the psychological factor will bring Hole pugs back.

[Tethler]

Blue even post green had a nice PUG path 51-60 with the Hole. But then they slightly nerfed the zem and it's a ghost town again with people back in KC fighting over LCY mobs that are half green. Or plvling.

Buff Hole zem like 1% but widely announce it on the front page with bold letters and stuff and the psychological factor will bring Hole pugs back.

With the bonus xp weekend, the Hole on blue had like 20 people when I poked my head in. I assume it's dead outside the bonus xp periods though.

[Fammaden]

People start going back to the hole on bonus weekends yeah partly due to overcrowding everywhere, then it dies again after the XP bonus is off. This is even despite many people in game chat agreeing that the hole is better than KC in every way except convenience.

Yet the convenience factor is heavily mitigated the more people are actually playing in the zone.

[Valakut]

Good lord. What has happened to P99? When I played years ago on blue..sure the end game raiding scene was kind of toxic but the rest of the game was pretty good. I found groups everywhere. EC tunnel seemed active enough. It was overall a pretty fun leveling experience and even some of the low end raiding was pretty fun (usually). Seems like any semblance of "classic" EQ might actually be dead dead now. Sad.

yeah its unfortunate but as someone who got to see all 3 eras on p99. everyone always thought the next era would make the server better but all it ever did was make it worse.

vanilla - knights who say ni hosting 150 person fear crawl pugs just pure classic adventuring
kunark - casual guilds clearing fear trash for fun and random armor drops shaman epics are 25k
velious - everyone is scared to zone into fear for fear of being disqualified on raid loot

i know fear is a niche thing but its a good reflection of how the server devolved from adventuring with strangers into cold calculating pixel drop rate probabilities

[Toxigen]

KC is for shitters.

Do better.

[Vadriel]

Jwargod, I'm the shaman who was in DL with my friend when you offered the camp. I'm sorry you were upset that we didn't respond we were just busy talking to each other. We did what we thought was polite and left the camp to you because normally exp camps are hard to come by. You said you couldn't find a group and we didn't want to shove you out. I've personally had good luck finding groups by just reaching out to other players in tells and asking if they could use whatever character I'm playing at the time. It does take being social and friendly to get by in a video game with no matchmaking system. And sometimes there is nothing we can organize or hop into so that's why everyone has alts.

[Pint]

yeah its unfortunate but as someone who got to see all 3 eras on p99. everyone always thought the next era would make the server better but all it ever did was make it worse.

vanilla - knights who say ni hosting 150 person fear crawl pugs just pure classic adventuring
kunark - casual guilds clearing fear trash for fun and random armor drops shaman epics are 25k
velious - everyone is scared to zone into fear for fear of being disqualified on raid loot

i know fear is a niche thing but its a good reflection of how the server devolved from adventuring with strangers into cold calculating pixel drop rate probabilities

Little misleading not to acknowledge that fear clears for loot don't make sense when velious class armors etc becomes available. I do miss plane of hate and sky clear days from kunark though.

[enjchanter]

did they add the pet window back in yet or is green still unplayable

[Valakut]

Little misleading not to acknowledge that fear clears for loot don't make sense when velious class armors etc becomes available. I do miss plane of hate and sky clear days from kunark though.

thank you for copping to it.

theres no point to adventuring in everquest when you can minmax velious.

this really captures the millennial and gen z sense of entitlement as well as western imperial elitism.

[JeremyDS]

All it captures is the path of least resistance.

[GNMCLR99]

One server is dead, the other is dying. Next question?

[Valik1016]

Vadriel, I can appreciate that you and your friend were chatting, but were you really SO busy that you couldn't respond to someone else? And you're telling him that he should be more social to find groups.....well that is only helpful if the people you reach out to answer you back. I can see why he was frustrated. Even if you told him you were busy chatting and would be a minute before you could talk to him, that would be something. He would probably have totally accepted that. It takes two participants to be social.

[Raj]

Haven't been on Blue in a while, but I would also like to point out that Green is much more rife with hella stupid names (compared to what I remember on Blue).

Green is great but this is pretty much true LOL.

[rubicaant]

Creating green and splitting p99 playerbase has ruined p99 for me. I am invested in my blue characters, but have no desire to start over or level alts since the low level game is barren now. And i hear Green low level scene is pretty toxic.

[Swish]

Green is a good concept while the timeline is in progress, but its at the end of the cycle so its literally 2 servers of the same thing. If they merge it the competitive raid scene/RNF would be next level ;)

[Croco]

Creating green and splitting p99 playerbase has ruined p99 for me. I am invested in my blue characters, but have no desire to start over or level alts since the low level game is barren now. And i hear Green low level scene is pretty toxic.

This. Green was a mistake.

[cd288]

Green is a good concept while the timeline is in progress, but its at the end of the cycle so its literally 2 servers of the same thing. If they merge it the competitive raid scene/RNF would be next level ;)

If they ever do another Green I hope they merge like 6 months post end of the timeline. At that point it's just kind of pointless to have two servers

[Baldwooky]

Merge would probably get me interested in actually raiding again.