How do solo enchanters deal with death?

[long.liam]

Do they break the rules and box a epic cleric on the side? Do they just go xp every time they get killed trying to farm expensive items? I find it extremely stressful getting killed on my enchanter.

[18120]

Keep a charged Lealtherfood Raider's Cap or just eat the exp loss. Solo'ing a lot comes with the benefit of a lot of exp to burn.

[PatChapp]

I usually let a few bodies stack and then bribe a cleric. Most good farming zones it's not too bad to get a cleric out. 3-500pp pretty meaningless to an enchanter but a good haul for a couple clicks. Keep diamonds and lack saphires so you don't need so much plat on you.

[Tann]

only 52 on my enc but I just loot corpse and keep on exping, easy to make it all back. also a filthy casual so it's not like i'm in a rush

[Insaiyan]

I envy y’all’s mindset. Personally, I despise death. Watching my precious exp slip away strums a note of pain in my heart. I’m a casual, so that exp is hella hard to come by when you don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground in the EQ world and playtime is limited. This is why my enchanter is sitting at 27, naked and untouched. So close to clarity, too.

[Crede]

Level a cleric and have people log it in as needed. I have an epic cleric that’s been 54 since 2014 and he has done countless rezzes. Just a phenomenal class that everyone should have at least one of.

[Seducio]

Enchanters are the Dark Souls of EQ. Embrace dying. It's how the game teaches you to get better by planning for and avoiding what killed you. The best Enchanters died many times learning their tricks.

[tadkins]

I deal with it by not doing any of that crazy stuff. You don't need to die all the time. I level outdoors and do occasional dungeon delves with a few levels over the dungeon. You can enjoy the enchanter class without trying to solo the Chardok prince or SG rares.

[pasi]

I typically would bind outside the zone that I was hunting in. Never got the appeal of fire pots since Overthere was always crawling with druids. Most of the time, CC'n and then gating is sufficient. Leatherfoot Cap for the times when the above was not possible.

[patrick210]

Work on a strategy for when the shit hits the fan, and don't allow yourself to get into situations you can't handle unless you plan to overcome them. Die less.

[Seducio]

Die less.

The simplest answer for less stressful play.

[Tethler]

My enchanter is only level 51 atm, so I'm not sure how much it's gonna hurt in the final levels.

That said, the xp from charm soloing is so fast, even eating the occasional death has barely slowed me down. At 50 I was soling half of the moat camp in CoM getting 2% per mob. I would probably end up with more total xp if I keep grinding than if I stopped to get a rez and med back to full.

[Toxigen]

Yeah you just keep going. Can't count how many EXP deaths I've eaten.

[Tann]

Yeah you just keep going. Can't count how many EXP deaths I've eaten.

welcome back!

[Duik]

Toxigen, can you document exactly what ya have to do to be banned from a ffa forum like this?
Are you naive or just dim witted?
Enquiring minds need to know. Call it a teachable moment (for us).

[Tsunami21k]

Honestly leveling up I gained xp so fast that I didn’t care.

When I was actively playing I always had a friend or two online who would log a cleric for me if I needed a Rez but I usually just ate the death.

[bilirubin]

Eating exp when soloing is inevitable because of the randomness of charm breaks, but maximize your chances of getting a rez by dragging your corpse to a visible part of the zone or zoneline, routinely check /who in adjacent zones for clerics, or just message a high level cleric in your guild and offer them plat/peridots for a click.

[enjchanter]

Level a cleric and have people log it in as needed. I have an epic cleric that’s been 54 since 2014 and he has done countless rezzes. Just a phenomenal class that everyone should have at least one of.

^^^ just make a burner cleric, park it where ur xping at
even if its epicless 90% rez, better than nothing

at 60 im always at 100% xp so i just eat the corpse so i dont have to med

[sajbert]

I typically would bind outside the zone that I was hunting in. Never got the appeal of fire pots since Overthere was always crawling with druids. Most of the time, CC'n and then gating is sufficient. Leatherfoot Cap for the times when the above was not possible.
Yeah, I got a lowbie erudite enchanter with firepot bind but honestly it seems a trap.

Thinking of rerolling, if nothing else just to play gnome to avoid having to cast gnome illusion, or human because human enchanters look cosy.

[PatChapp]

I like my erudite but If I was gonna redo,can't resist gnome. Saves a buff to keep recasting,great fashion.
Gnome with that little snake and an insignia protecter is amazing

[spoil]

Erudite is the second best option, possibly the best if you're not raid geared. I think fashion is the best reason to pick gnome, because saving one buff slot occasionally as a solo player isn't super useful IMO. Junk buff, c, gob, enlightenment, epic click, cha buff, bedlam, rune, magi, umbra, grm, jboots, levitate = 13. So with all that I still have room for gnome illusion and the only buff I really want from another player is potg or aego and you click off epic for regrowth or hb, etc.

[Vaarsuvius]

You just man up, take the death xp penalty, loot your corpse and keep grinding ��
You will get xp so fast you won’t even care if you eat a couple deaths

[Solist]

Work on a strategy for when the shit hits the fan, and don't allow yourself to get into situations you can't handle unless you plan to overcome them. Die less.

This.

Never react to it live, have a plan. Set pre targets for CC on cycle keys. Every pacify is potentially x mobs, dont fuck around wasting precious bash timers and melee rounds trying to target mobs. Pre target your own corpse you drag around to land a mezmerisation on it as mobs approach etc instead of eating a combat round x 3 and a bash before getting a stun off.

Or just dont play a boring solo class in an MMO. Go make friends.

[coffin_aoe]

I am dying left and right... it only really sucks in / after hell-levels.

[unsunghero]

I envy y’all’s mindset. Personally, I despise death. Watching my precious exp slip away strums a note of pain in my heart. I’m a casual, so that exp is hella hard to come by when you don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground in the EQ world and playtime is limited. This is why my enchanter is sitting at 27, naked and untouched. So close to clarity, too.

It is possible to play it very safe to where you almost literally cannot die

Example: charm solo singles outside against a zone wall to minimize the pathing of adds. Have the mob and your charmed pet be fighting at a far enough distance from you where if charm breaks, you can cast mez on it before it can run up to you. Normally most enchanters would just stun->GCD reset->mez, but you don’t have to do that. Just don’t stand anywhere near your charmed pet

Before you break charm, tell it to “guard here” as you stand way the hell away. Then it can’t close the distance before you can root it (don’t mez here because mez can blur it and heal it back up a few ticks and that’s not what you want, you want to kill it), and kill it

If doing this, you should literally only die whenever your internet suddenly drops

Or I’ve even heard of enchanters using the animation exclusively to solo. If you keep resummoning to get the highest level one, and make sure to use the highest rank slow on the mob you kill, the animation can kill blues all the way to 60, assuming you don’t mind getting 50% exp the entire time and being bored out of your mind. I don’t recommend this, but it’s doable

[unsunghero]

If you want to die a lot, carry torches and haste your charmed pet

Holy shit, at level 57 a hasted torch carrying blue mob can melt through both my shields in 1 second and spam hit me to where I sometimes can’t even get a stun off

I gave up doing it. If I give it a torch, I’m not hasting it. If I haste it, I’m not giving it a torch

Not worth the risk at lev 57 IMO

(It is cool to watch them massacre stuff tho)

[Seducio]

If you want to die a lot, carry torches and haste your charmed pet

Mitigate this by phoning a buddy for some duo action. Paladins and Clerics are clutch because of their ressing abilities.

If you are mowing through mobs quickly via a hasted torched pet with said pet getting CH'd or changing pets as soon as hp is low, a death here or there that is res'd at 90+% may still be faster exp overall than playing it safe.

It's a matter of preference. Fast paced play with high risk/reward. You will eat some deaths. Vs. Slower paced play with non-hasted pet for medium risk/reward. Less deaths.

A duo'd partner makes all the difference for which is preferable.

[Jimjam]

Mitigate this by phoning a buddy for some duo action. Paladins and Clerics are clutch because of their ressing abilities.

If you are mowing through mobs quickly via a hasted torched pet with said pet getting CH'd or changing pets as soon as hp is low, a death here or there that is res'd at 90+% may still be faster exp overall than playing it safe.

It's a matter of preference. Fast paced play with high risk/reward. You will eat some deaths. Vs. Slower paced play with non-hasted pet for medium risk/reward. Less deaths.

A duo'd partner makes all the difference for which is preferable.

I read shaman is a far superior duo partner for an enchanter than cleric or paladin.

[Seducio]

They are wonderful. They just can't cover the ENC dies-a-lot and needs a res part.

If death is avoided then you are onto something.

[unsunghero]

Mitigate this by phoning a buddy for some duo action. Paladins and Clerics are clutch because of their ressing abilities.

If you are mowing through mobs quickly via a hasted torched pet with said pet getting CH'd or changing pets as soon as hp is low, a death here or there that is res'd at 90+% may still be faster exp overall than playing it safe.

It's a matter of preference. Fast paced play with high risk/reward. You will eat some deaths. Vs. Slower paced play with non-hasted pet for medium risk/reward. Less deaths.

A duo'd partner makes all the difference for which is preferable.

Very good points, in fact as I was typing it out I was thinking “unless I had like a clr duo” lol

But alas, my playtimes are super weird and short and so it’s been a lone wolf life ;)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

They are wonderful. They just can't cover the ENC dies-a-lot and needs a res part.

If death is avoided then you are onto something.

Pocket clerics work wonders! Shaman/Ench duo with a level 49 pocket cleric covers the bases.

Crede can attest to this:

Level a cleric and have people log it in as needed. I have an epic cleric that’s been 54 since 2014 and he has done countless rezzes. Just a phenomenal class that everyone should have at least one of.

[unsunghero]

Or if you really want to die, haste a high blue con charmed pet, then give it a torch, then give it cheap worn haste items

I remember hearing about Chortles doing that in chardok, then dying accidentally, then his charmed pet rampaging through the zone in trains ;)

[Toxigen]

Or if you really want to die, haste a high blue con charmed pet, then give it a torch, then give it cheap worn haste items

I remember hearing about Chortles doing that in chardok, then dying accidentally, then his charmed pet rampaging through the zone in trains ;)

I often would do a full kit on my charmed pets back when I was tryharding.

Steel hilted flint dagger, tola robe, 2x ada bands, rusty spiked pads, tome of the eternal, astral stuff, etc

shit slapped until you died and went into full damage control mode hoping someone didnt snipe your pet

but honestly a swarmcaller (can take slow off your bar) + torch is all you really need unless you're doing high end stuff

[spoil]

Swarmcaller is interesting for a duo or something. But solo it's a risk waiting for that proc and I've definitely noticed the difference between 50 and 65% slow mobs interrupting my stun on a charm break. Maybe I had some bad RNG but it seemed to be pretty sketchy.

With that tryhard kit I would definitely have my GGR on ready to go, most I've given a pet is a tola robe and some -mr gear. Would suck to lose 10k+ because someone trained you, just eat the death.

[Tann]

Speaking of dealing with death, died earlier today in HS north on the ramp near the pit trap, decent chances of lulling my way back in there with naked charisma + buffs?

[Seducio]

Steel hilted flint dagger, tola robe, 2x ada bands, rusty spiked pads, tome of the eternal, astral stuff, etc


One thing I noticed here is the 2x ada bands. Could of sworn back on Blue like a decade ago or so a pet could only be given 1 ring. I'd have to dig up the discussion from forums which I'd rather not spend the time, but it was tested and confirmed. So long ago though that the only 1x ring slot on a mob might not be up to date with current p99.

Does anyone know if pets can be given 2 ring slots in current p99 iteration?

[Toxigen]

One thing I noticed here is the 2x ada bands. Could of sworn back on Blue like a decade ago or so a pet could only be given 1 ring. I'd have to dig up the discussion from forums which I'd rather not spend the time, but it was tested and confirmed. So long ago though that the only 1x ring slot on a mob might not be up to date with current p99.

Does anyone know if pets can be given 2 ring slots in current p99 iteration?

no idea i just do 2 just in case

[Toxigen]

Swarmcaller is interesting for a duo or something. But solo it's a risk waiting for that proc and I've definitely noticed the difference between 50 and 65% slow mobs interrupting my stun on a charm break. Maybe I had some bad RNG but it seemed to be pretty sketchy.

With that tryhard kit I would definitely have my GGR on ready to go, most I've given a pet is a tola robe and some -mr gear. Would suck to lose 10k+ because someone trained you, just eat the death.

Yeah Swarmcaller is definitely more for duo / group. Its nice taking slow off your bar and just lazymode it.

[Seducio]

no idea i just do 2 just in case

Right on. I'll test this within a day or two on Green. If I recall it simply requires charming level 1 skeleton, giving two rings, releasing to the wild. Killing and tracking HPs.

Will get back the results soon

[Seducio]

Finally got around to doing this today in West Freeport on Green.

Gave 2 Ada Bands to a A Decaying Skeleton. This would be a +150 HP buff.

It required four Chaotic Feedbacks of 48 damage each to kill the skeleton.

Therefore can confirm Tox is right. Charmed Pets have 2 ring slots. I think wiki might not currently be accurate on this.

[Videri]

Do they break the rules and box a epic cleric on the side? Do they just go xp every time they get killed trying to farm expensive items? I find it extremely stressful getting killed on my enchanter.

So, OP, any reaction or follow-up to this thread? Has it provided you with any techniques or mentality shifts that might help you? Have you made any progress with regard to not stressing about your EverQuest character dying, and just seeing it as a minor setback and using it as feedback to sharpen your skills?

[unsunghero]

not stressing about your EverQuest character dying, and just seeing it as a minor setback and using it as feedback to sharpen your skills?

Not the OP, but to answer

Has not ;)

[long.liam]

Not the OP, but to answer

Has not ;)

Same here. Death is honestly pretty harsh in this game. If I weren't in a guild that has shared clerics that I can pre-park and the ask a guildie to jump on and click my corpse, then I probably would not be able to handle playing here.

[unsunghero]

Same here. Death is honestly pretty harsh in this game. If I weren't in a guild that has shared clerics that I can pre-park and the ask a guildie to jump on and click my corpse, then I probably would not be able to handle playing here.

What is the rule with that?

I really wanted to level a cleric alt solely for rezzes for myself, especially after seeing on the priest forums someone leveled a cleric who didn’t sound that twinkled from 1-60 solo

But I couldn’t technically accept my own rez without 2boxing. But account sharing is no big deal here? I’d still have to convince some guildmate I barely knew to get on my account and rez me though

Note: died in chardok yesterday (not my fault, was trained), had to beg a rez from a random cleric and tipped 100pp, would have been more but it was all I had on me from farming

[PatChapp]

What is the rule with that?

I really wanted to level a cleric alt solely for rezzes for myself, especially after seeing on the priest forums someone leveled a cleric who didn’t sound that twinkled from 1-60 solo

But I couldn’t technically accept my own rez without 2boxing. But account sharing is no big deal here? I’d still have to convince some guildmate I barely knew to get on my account and rez me though

Note: died in chardok yesterday (not my fault, was trained), had to beg a rez from a random cleric and tipped 100pp, would have been more but it was all I had on me from farming

No rules on account sharing, just can't box
Give friends the keys and ask em to swap when they can. 3hr corpse timer is a long time,don't need to get resed right away

[enjchanter]

This server was literally built around account sharing.

Everyone sets up their accounts around this and entire guilds are able to achieve success because of it.

Just do it

[zelld52]

Having played cleric, most of my money came from rezzing 50+ enchanters in dungeons.

As enchanter, i just eat the exp loss (exceptions being level 54, 55 or 59)

[unsunghero]

I really have been trying to avoid summoning mobs like the bitch that I am, any tips from the grizzled vets on dealing with these as chanter?

Especially something that summons and is immune to runspeed changes, mez and charm. I could charm other stuff to throw at it, but breaks just seem brutal as I try to re-charm the other mob while potentially getting beat on by the kill target that I can't keep away with root. I guess if it could be aoe stunned that would help, but some named can't be stunned either

But not even all that, just summoning mobs in general, open to any tips. Not struggling with these per se, just figuring out the best approach before I start taking them on the regular

[Seducio]

It mob not your pet that is summoning is a problem consider Blurring it with Blanket of Forgetfulness that way your pet will regain agro after a single hit or round of hits.

If summoning mob is your pet and summons after charm break, you can have it holding something like a Swarmcaller which forces 2h so you don't get quad'ed.

[unsunghero]

It mob not your pet that is summoning is a problem consider Blurring it with Blanket of Forgetfulness that way your pet will regain agro after a single hit or round of hits.

If summoning mob is your pet and summons after charm break, you can have it holding something like a Swarmcaller which forces 2h so you don't get quad'ed.

Interesting

[PatChapp]

Summon has a 10second cool down
So if it's just the mob summoning and not your pet,it's not that bad
What are you planning on hunting that cant be mesed?
Not much really can't be mesed that is commonly hunted
Chardok 2 mobs don't summon, most stuff in Seb can be mesed.
If your fighting a summoning mob with a pet that summons,just prioritize getting a slow on the mob. Your pet which is much more dangerous than a slowed mob can always be mesed. Keep ae mes on the bar, that way you don't need to target swap to mes your pet.

[Toxigen]

I really have been trying to avoid summoning mobs like the bitch that I am, any tips from the grizzled vets on dealing with these as chanter?

Especially something that summons and is immune to runspeed changes, mez and charm. I could charm other stuff to throw at it, but breaks just seem brutal as I try to re-charm the other mob while potentially getting beat on by the kill target that I can't keep away with root. I guess if it could be aoe stunned that would help, but some named can't be stunned either

But not even all that, just summoning mobs in general, open to any tips. Not struggling with these per se, just figuring out the best approach before I start taking them on the regular

What on earth are you fighting that is immune to mez?

[unsunghero]

What on earth are you fighting that is immune to mez?

It might not have been mez, I've just looked up various named in zones and seen combinations of summons + some immunities, don't recall specifics tho

[unsunghero]

Summon has a 10second cool down
So if it's just the mob summoning and not your pet,it's not that bad
What are you planning on hunting that cant be mesed?
Not much really can't be mesed that is commonly hunted
Chardok 2 mobs don't summon, most stuff in Seb can be mesed.
If your fighting a summoning mob with a pet that summons,just prioritize getting a slow on the mob. Your pet which is much more dangerous than a slowed mob can always be mesed. Keep ae mes on the bar, that way you don't need to target swap to mes your pet.

Kk. It's funny, my only experience with summons, since I never got that high level in vanilla EQ, was in retail EQ years ago

But that was on necro, which where it was barely an inconvenience. It was always either summoning the necro pet, or else on the rare occasions where I was summoned by something very dangerous like a group named, necro had things like harmshield variants and FD

p99 summons is going to be a bit more tricky

[PatChapp]

Finish your Seb key and go play around at NG.
Some of the pets summon,some of the scarabs summon. It's good practice, everything can be messed.

Eat the first summon on a break,lay down a stun and ae mez. It's fun,I like getting ping ponged between my pet and the mob.

[Toxigen]

Finish your Seb key and go play around at NG.
Some of the pets summon,some of the scarabs summon. It's good practice, everything can be messed.

Eat the first summon on a break,lay down a stun and ae mez. It's fun,I like getting ping ponged between my pet and the mob.

made this recommendation weeks ago

hes too afraid of death

[Seducio]

Sebilis is a right of passage for any enterprising solo enchanter. Deaths there build character.

[Jimjam]

Its easy to get a drag n rez or if desperate just take 7 days off, let the bod rot and have a dev summon ur stuff back for you.

[zelld52]

Can confirm just did Seb last night. Best part about Seb is all the shaman lying around, so every mob is hasted. Make sure to take Jaspers and Peridots for multiple runes.

I only died 4 times yesterday between ABC and NG. It was fun. Paid 400p for 4 rezzes. Made 800p from Gems. +400p. nIce

[PatChapp]

I rarely die at ng,but ABC can be a bit tougher if you want to keep multiple spawns down. Straight plat it's really hard to beat just chilling at ng 90%afk
Disco is a bit easier than ABC,crawling back from frenzied to Pickler, maybe add in brogg. Lower avg lvl of frogs to paci

[unsunghero]

Can confirm just did Seb last night. Best part about Seb is all the shaman lying around, so every mob is hasted. Make sure to take Jaspers and Peridots for multiple runes.

I only died 4 times yesterday between ABC and NG. It was fun. Paid 400p for 4 rezzes. Made 800p from Gems. +400p. nIce

I’ve noticed the mobs in some of the late game dungeons all hold torches to make them dual wield? That’s pretty sneaky too

I told myself I was going to go to the late game dungeons at 58 but then I procrastinated saying well I should get a nice cushion of exp in case I die I won’t de-level….

….then I found an outside spot with fairly slow exp but decent pp, about 800ish/hour if drops go well. Now I’m 1 bubble from 59

But I will eventually go, better late anyway when it comes to trying to hold charms and not have mobs hit me for max damage every swing

[Infectious]

I’ve noticed the mobs in some of the late game dungeons all hold torches to make them dual wield? That’s pretty sneaky too

I told myself I was going to go to the late game dungeons at 58 but then I procrastinated saying well I should get a nice cushion of exp in case I die I won’t de-level….

….then I found an outside spot with fairly slow exp but decent pp, about 800ish/hour if drops go well. Now I’m 1 bubble from 59

But I will eventually go, better late anyway when it comes to trying to hold charms and not have mobs hit me for max damage every swing

If you're that nervous, keep your 1 second stun, 2 second and gate at all times. You get in a bad situation. Stun, stun and gate out. Bind at portal outside seb.

When you need to bank, OT hammer and just buy a port to whichever city you want.

[unsunghero]

If you're that nervous, keep your 1 second stun, 2 second and gate at all times. You get in a bad situation. Stun, stun and gate out. Bind at portal outside seb.

When you need to bank, OT hammer and just buy a port to whichever city you want.

Ya, assuming you mean the fastest cast (color flux) into the longest duration (color slant). That sounds pretty smart. Or just a WC cap, but I'm poor, so the gate idea is more tempting

[spoil]

No need to reinvent the wheel. Color slant or shift and color skew on your bar at all times when solo on a chanter.

[Seducio]

If you do die while solong in the 58 to 60 range, replay the last 20 seconds of the death in your head instead of raging.

What went wrong? What spell cast order could you have tried differently. It's easy to get frusterated and not want to play. Instead if you are reflective you will learn from each death so that particular way of dieing becomes less common over time.

After a while you will be willing to try harder mobs and areas after you have built your confidence.

[Toxigen]

Every death is an opportunity to learn. Especially since yo ass aint gettin a cleric rez so you're gonna be re-making that XP anyway.

[Jimjam]

Every death is an opportunity to learn.

Jimjam confirmed most learned warrior on the server. WISDOM > 305

[Seducio]

Can confirm. Jimjam's warrior does all my Research combines. Never fails. :)

[zelld52]

No need to reinvent the wheel. Color slant or shift and color skew on your bar at all times when solo on a chanter.

I have made it to level 58 without using stun. Mesmerize / Mesmerization work very well. Maybe not reinventing the wheel but I think the wheel has too many spokes

[Toxigen]

I have made it to level 58 without using stun.

WHAT THE EVER-LIVING FUCK?

[zelld52]

WHAT THE EVER-LIVING FUCK?

I hate spell-swapping. Here's my solo list.

1) Tashania
2) Theft of Thought
3) Mesmerize
4) Allure
5) Paralyzing Earth
6) Pacify (Just upgraded from Soothe at level 58)
7) Berserker Spirit (until I get Bedlam)
8) Spell swap Slot. [Dementia: when soloing to finish off mobs.] [Rune III or IV or V: depending on how low HP I am.] [Re-buffs] [AE Mez: if I'm breaking a room that I think I might get crit resist on.]

I died a few times in Seb because I got greedy in ABC and had a bunch of crit resist Pacis. Other than that, I don't die.

Hot take: You don't need stun as Enc. Just rune up, and then Mez. (It's only 1s longer cast than stun)

[Vivitron]

If I am fighting stunnable stuff I usually keep Color Skew + Color Slant on the bar. I probably eat an occasional death for not using the faster cast Color Flux but having the chance to stun lock is luxurious.

I hate spell-swapping. Here's my solo list.

1) Tashania
2) Theft of Thought
3) Mesmerize
4) Allure
5) Paralyzing Earth
6) Pacify (Just upgraded from Soothe at level 58)
7) Berserker Spirit (until I get Bedlam)
8) Spell swap Slot. [Dementia: when soloing to finish off mobs.] [Rune III or IV or V: depending on how low HP I am.] [Re-buffs] [AE Mez: if I'm breaking a room that I think I might get crit resist on.]

I died a few times in Seb because I got greedy in ABC and had a bunch of crit resist Pacis. Other than that, I don't die.

Hot take: You don't need stun as Enc. Just rune up, and then Mez. (It's only 1s longer cast than stun)

Enchanter life is better with slot 1 swap slot due to its unique recast mechanics.

[zelld52]

Enchanter life is better with slot 1 swap slot due to its unique recast mechanics.

But it only works on spells with <= 2.5s recast time, right? Everything over 2.5s you have to wait the full duration even if GCD reset.

[Vivitron]

But it only works on spells with <= 2.5s recast time, right? Everything over 2.5s you have to wait the full duration even if GCD reset.

It just has to finish casting after the recast is up. For example you can mem rune or slow, hit your gcd, and cast immediately. But with Dimentia you have to wait 2 seconds (8 second recast minus 6 second cast), or Pacify you have to wait 3 seconds (6 second recast minus 3 second cast).

It's convenient that the 2s Dimentia pause is slightly shorter than the natural global reset, so if you are casting a couple you can wait for that then gcd and nuke again.

[Toxigen]

You don't need pacify and berserker on your bar at all times lol.

[unsunghero]

You don't need pacify and berserker on your bar at all times lol.

Bedlam has a recast time so if you swap it in, you can’t immediately use it, even in slot 1

To me that’s dicey to not keep it on bar (previous version = berserker), but I’ll defer to your greater experience

I used to always keep color shift on bar. It’s only a 6s stun vs color slant’s 8s, but it is dirt cheap mana wise. If I recall slant is like 3-4x as much mana per cast. Both have the same fairly quick cast time

In dungeons I started using slant though. Still greedy and keeping wandering mind on bar despite not always a lot of casters to use it on. I do plan to do 2 stuns (flux and slant) when I do some of the more dangerous dungeons

I enjoy spell swapping though. I need an “active” class to not get bored out of my mind. Even on enchanter, even when things are hectic and dicey, I usually still end up getting bored and logging out after an hour-ish playing

[enjchanter]

You guys are newbs

[Toxigen]

imagine playing an enchanter and not using stuns

lol

[enjchanter]

I have 1k ac on my enc and I still run 2 stuns

[spoil]

I used to always keep color shift on bar. It’s only a 6s stun vs color slant’s 8s, but it is dirt cheap mana wise.

That 2 seconds makes all the difference, allure's casting time is 6 seconds so the mob(s) will be unstunned and can interrupt you before charm lands.

You don't need pacify and berserker on your bar at all times lol.

Berserker/Bedlam has a 9 second cooldown on top slot. I think it's an essential spell on your bar at all times along with charm and 2 stuns.

[PatChapp]

I often keep bedlam up,but it isn't essential. I run one stun more often than not,and usually don't mez on recharms unless it gets dicey. Usually a color slant is enough,but often burns my bedlam. 2 stuns is certainly safer. If I'm killing big mobs,like Royals I use boltrans even if the mob is allurable.

[unsunghero]

That 2 seconds makes all the difference, allure's casting time is 6 seconds so the mob(s) will be unstunned and can interrupt you before charm lands.



Berserker/Bedlam has a 9 second cooldown on top slot. I think it's an essential spell on your bar at all times along with charm and 2 stuns.

I never stun + re-charm

I always do stun + mez (or root if giant or dragon). Then I’ll often refresh bedlam that’s been knocked off, maybe re-root the other target, and re-charm before mez fades

I can see the helpfulness of a stun + re-charm when you have 2+ mobs in melee range tho

[enjchanter]

Slant Boltran skew blanket

[spoil]

I basically never use boltrans (3k mana zero FT life) but that would be the play. Slant > Allure > Bedlam is what I generally do. You take a hit or two from a slowed mob while channeling bedlam but that buys time for your pet to get aggro and then you have at least 1 rune up.

[zelld52]

I'm supposing tactics would change if I ever had the desire to do Sirens or Kael or Sky, Chardok or something..

But for regular plat / exp farm camping, everywhere else, I've been doing fine without any stun. And not even 60 yet.

[coffin_aoe]

I got in my spellbar:

1. charm
2. mez
3. swap (calm, DD, slow, berserker)
4. stun 2
5. ae-mez
6. root
7. tash (but used as swap, when mobs are tashed)
8. stun 1

and I can't, for the love of god, figure out, which spell i should lose to keep ToT on the bar... AE-mez i suppose, when there's no risk of getting multiples.

[PatChapp]

You don't need single target + ae mez, swap to single target for initial charms.
Top slot charm is waste of gcd cool down, good spot for root

[unsunghero]

A bit off topic, but I went poking around velious for just about the first time

Coming from N Ro so all I’ve seen so far was a bit of ToFS (but didn’t go far) and Kael. At 58 I simply could not find a blue con giant in Kael, had to go fairly deep. I basically went until I bumped into a raid guild that was there, at that point I turned around due to not wanting to step on anyone’s toes

Is it worth it to massacre the green giants hoping for that tiny chance of a torn cloth or whatever drop? The low level ones suck as pets, they don’t do enough damage. So I was using the animation which was faster (since they weren’t giving me exp anyway). But they take a while to kill because of their ridic regen (what are they all dual wielding z-hearts? I actually sometimes watch their health tick up while the animation is whaling on them with haste)

I’m assuming people are going to say no, but what about charm killing the blues? I know it will take a while. I would probably just eat the 50% exp loss and let the charmed kill. Then I don’t even care about killing the pet if it can out-regen my ability to nuke it, I could just drop charm and blur it. This would all be for the purpose of trying to get one of those torn cloth drops

[enjchanter]

A bit off topic, but I went poking around velious for just about the first time

Coming from N Ro so all I’ve seen so far was a bit of ToFS (but didn’t go far) and Kael. At 58 I simply could not find a blue con giant in Kael, had to go fairly deep. I basically went until I bumped into a raid guild that was there, at that point I turned around due to not wanting to step on anyone’s toes

Is it worth it to massacre the green giants hoping for that tiny chance of a torn cloth or whatever drop? The low level ones suck as pets, they don’t do enough damage. So I was using the animation which was faster (since they weren’t giving me exp anyway). But they take a while to kill because of their ridic regen (what are they all dual wielding z-hearts? I actually sometimes watch their health tick up while the animation is whaling on them with haste)

I’m assuming people are going to say no, but what about charm killing the blues? I know it will take a while. I would probably just eat the 50% exp loss and let the charmed kill. Then I don’t even care about killing the pet if it can out-regen my ability to nuke it, I could just drop charm and blur it. This would all be for the purpose of trying to get one of those torn cloth drops

no

[PatChapp]

A bit off topic, but I went poking around velious for just about the first time

Coming from N Ro so all I’ve seen so far was a bit of ToFS (but didn’t go far) and Kael. At 58 I simply could not find a blue con giant in Kael, had to go fairly deep. I basically went until I bumped into a raid guild that was there, at that point I turned around due to not wanting to step on anyone’s toes

Is it worth it to massacre the green giants hoping for that tiny chance of a torn cloth or whatever drop? The low level ones suck as pets, they don’t do enough damage. So I was using the animation which was faster (since they weren’t giving me exp anyway). But they take a while to kill because of their ridic regen (what are they all dual wielding z-hearts? I actually sometimes watch their health tick up while the animation is whaling on them with haste)

I’m assuming people are going to say no, but what about charm killing the blues? I know it will take a while. I would probably just eat the 50% exp loss and let the charmed kill. Then I don’t even care about killing the pet if it can out-regen my ability to nuke it, I could just drop charm and blur it. This would all be for the purpose of trying to get one of those torn cloth drops
You can do a bit at the 4-way just in kael up the first stairs from wl.
A lot of them are belly casters though,and the drop rates are really bad.

[Vivitron]

A bit off topic, but I went poking around velious for just about the first time

Coming from N Ro so all I’ve seen so far was a bit of ToFS (but didn’t go far) and Kael. At 58 I simply could not find a blue con giant in Kael, had to go fairly deep. I basically went until I bumped into a raid guild that was there, at that point I turned around due to not wanting to step on anyone’s toes

Is it worth it to massacre the green giants hoping for that tiny chance of a torn cloth or whatever drop? The low level ones suck as pets, they don’t do enough damage. So I was using the animation which was faster (since they weren’t giving me exp anyway). But they take a while to kill because of their ridic regen (what are they all dual wielding z-hearts? I actually sometimes watch their health tick up while the animation is whaling on them with haste)

I’m assuming people are going to say no, but what about charm killing the blues? I know it will take a while. I would probably just eat the 50% exp loss and let the charmed kill. Then I don’t even care about killing the pet if it can out-regen my ability to nuke it, I could just drop charm and blur it. This would all be for the purpose of trying to get one of those torn cloth drops

I've seen some people farm near 4 way, maybe pulling to south of the building marked 4 on the map. I think the blue lietenants at least have a chance for armor drops. You have to watch out for Captain Bvellos, a level 53 over-hitter paladin, he has a very long path that goes through 4 way. I don't think it would be a good camp for an enchanter, but you might as well try it. One of the necro youtubers did a video on it, maybe something to toss on while you check it out.

Plate wearers can get a lot of thurg plate drops by doing plate house with a big group, but unfortunately there's no cloth/leather equivalent. For cloth wearers imo it makes more sense to check out your guild's HOT raids; that gear is better too.

WL Geonids are worth a visit while you are in the area. They are not amazing but I think they fit your preferences; they are a chill outdoor xp spot that gives a bit of steady plat from gems drops.

[unsunghero]

Noice Ty, will do

[unsunghero]

You can do a bit at the 4-way just in kael up the first stairs from wl.
A lot of them are belly casters though,and the drop rates are really bad.

Yeah the cleric ones are kind of annoying with their dispels and heals. Normally I spam mez to interrupt casters, but that don’t work on giants. But stun seems to, weirdly enough. Coulda swore stun didn’t work on kunark giants, but maybe I’m misremembering

[Jimjam]

Giants as a mob type should be globally immune to stun, aye?

[PatChapp]

Yeah the cleric ones are kind of annoying with their dispels and heals. Normally I spam mez to interrupt casters, but that don’t work on giants. But stun seems to, weirdly enough. Coulda swore stun didn’t work on kunark giants, but maybe I’m misremembering

It doesn't work on any giant, if your casting color slant what your seeing is the mana drain effect hitting.
So it doesn't say resisted,but they aren't being stunned. It's stupid

[Seducio]

Unsung, which GCD item are you using? I like Star of Eyes usually, but find the longer distance on Rod of Insidious Glamour can come in handy at times when casting from afar. Others like jboots for outside and Skrunken Goblin Skull Earring if you don't want to need a target to reset GCD both can come in handy at times. I use them all the time when solo chantering. Each has a pro/con.

[unsunghero]

Unsung, which GCD item are you using? I like Star of Eyes usually, but find the longer distance on Rod of Insidious Glamour can come in handy at times when casting from afar. Others like jboots for outside and Skrunken Goblin Skull Earring if you don't want to need a target to reset GCD both can come in handy at times. I use them all the time when solo chantering. Each has a pro/con.

I use glamour, if nothing is around I target myself

I also can get a bit spammy with it sometimes
“So and so looks amiable”
“So and so looks amiable”
“So and so looks amiable”

;)

[Seducio]

“So and so looks amiable”
“So and so looks amiable”
“So and so looks amiable”

Other servers actually require two clicks to reset GCD. So you're just covering all bases.

[PatChapp]

Rod is amazing, can be clicked from inventory if you ever manage to charm a snake
The non agro light up effect is very nice for targeting in tight packs

[unsunghero]

Rod is amazing, can be clicked from inventory if you ever manage to charm a snake
The non agro light up effect is very nice for targeting in tight packs

[PatChapp]

Fire

[Infectious]

I have made it to level 58 without using stun. Mesmerize / Mesmerization work very well. Maybe not reinventing the wheel but I think the wheel has too many spokes

Until you go to lull a room of 5 mobs and the whole room comes. Always try to lull against a wall and then all you have to worry about is getting a 1 second stun off.

[spoil]

Also an 8-second stun buys you enough time to open your spell book, mem an AE mez, cast it and get the situation under control. Mesmerize also has a 1 second longer cast time than Color Slant and depending on the situation that's the difference between life and your spell was interrupted, etc.

[Infectious]

I never stun + re-charm

I always do stun + mez (or root if giant or dragon). Then I’ll often refresh bedlam that’s been knocked off, maybe re-root the other target, and re-charm before mez fades

I can see the helpfulness of a stun + re-charm when you have 2+ mobs in melee range tho

I always stun, mez and mem wipe. Then send back in. If not, pet goes back in I end up getting summoned 3-4 times until pet pulls aggro back. Then I have to waste mana and time having to put runes back up.

[Seducio]

and mem wipe

Good tip. This guy Enchanters. Blurring is one of those spells some don't use much during combat. It's actually a great way to save mana when used right.

[spoil]

If you blur before a charm break, like after you cast slow, etc. then when charm breaks your pet should retake aggro very quickly.