Making a Pally

[spoil]

Hey, I've been thinking about making a Pally but I'm clueless about the class. This is the gear I've collected so far:

* Neck: Black Sapphire Velium Necklace
* Head:
* Ears1: Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring
* Ears2: Black Sapphire Electrum Earring
* Face: Crystal Spider Eyes
* Chest: Barbed Ringmail
* Arms: Crystal Chitin Armplates
* Back: Shimmering Terror Hide Cloak
* Waist:
* Shoulders: Obulus Death Shroud
* Wrists1: Silver Chitin Wristband
* Wrists2: Silver Chitin Wristband
* Legs:
* Hands: Coldain Skin Gloves
* Fingers1: Velium Fire Wedding Ring
* Fingers2: Velium Fire Wedding Ring
* Feet: Lodizal Shell Boots

I also picked up a Ghoulbane. I could transfer a Spiked Seahorse Hide Belt from my Chanter main and maybe buy a Fungi to use temporarily, since I'll end up selling it when I can finally afford a Zheart. Looking for any suggestions on gear, particularly weapons for low - mid levels, relatively cheap upgrades or anything else useful for that journey besides Jboots MQ.

[Snaggles]

Here’s an EC shadow knight Magelo. A couple items you would change for a pally (white bear instead of black bear cloak, thug Bp/legs). It’s a decent base though to work towards pre-raid. Mostly HP oriented, some might disagree or go with other items. Your list is quite good too.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Magelo_Blue:TestKnight

I would only use a Ghoulbane to quest the Epic. It destroyed in Classic era but the ratio is dreadful. I’d go with a quick 1h to like mid 20’s and swap to a quick 2h (PWC, Ornate Rune Blade, Carved dragonbone Spear). Once you hit 30 the damage cap goes away and you can hit like a truck with a reaver, exquisite, herbalist spade, etc.

Keep a 1h/shield and train it up when grouping. Especially so you can bash caster spells; for practice and so it’s less boring. 2h is going to kill much quicker though…even great 1h’s are painful to use past those mid levels when your damage is the only thing adding up.

Have fun :)

[jolanar]

I recommend a Kobold Jesters Crown for the insane Charisma, along with a Luminary Two Handed Sword for the Glamour buff. Those two items alone are going to be 60 charisma, and that's going to make using Lulls a lot less frustrating.

Aside from that, you're a Paladin... fashionquest is the name of the game.

[Infectious]

Grab a jade mace 1-10, you will hit damage cap and fast. After level 10 I went with rod of faith for my pally.

[Barlu]

If you end up with the seahorse belt and fungi you will have a very easy ride as far as you want to go. It’s a fun class and I really enjoyed mine. At 45 flip the fungi for deepwater BP. It’s less expensive and a lot better overall imo. For weapons the jade made or venemous axe is solid start. I used 2hs the whole way once the damage cap is gone. Reaver is hard to beat but you have to avoid magic mobs which really isn’t too hard.

If you are soloing, once you get higher lvl and the exp starts to slow down solo, you can start using Kilvas damage shield pots. At lvl 50 you should pretty much break even on them with trash drops and they will speed up the kills big time.

Edit: depending on race you may want to switch the Coldain gloves for Crystal Chintin for the extra strength. I went high elf and lack of strength was rough.

[spoil]

Appreciate all the info guys. Looking forward to getting started after I pick up a couple of those items.

And yeah I've seen the Deepwater BP in action, it's awesome. Hopefully I get that far. I'm mainly interested in playing my Enchanter but I wanted some alts to help friends out and stuff so I'm leveling a little 31 Druid for ports and maybe a 90% rez sometime in the future.

[Snaggles]

It’s a grind but 59 is so good. The rez and that 1.5 second heal over time. Keep the faith and keep pushing, it’s a fun class.

[Ennewi]

Depending on level, enchanter main could farm Skyshrine gargoyles for Guardian Leggings, then swap over to paladin and loot.

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: LEGS
AC: 12
STR: +4 CHA: +5 WIS: +4 HP: +15
SV FIRE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +5
WT: 4.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BRD
Race: ALL except IKS

Decent enough stats and the resists make up for the lack of AC which is only 3 less than crystal chitin. Ranged slot, good starter would be Idol of the Thorned before upgrading to Othmir Prexus Totem. As others said, definitely look for a 2her; even the cheapo ones like Iceflame have decent enough ratios and procs to help compensate.

[Nagash]

My pally is only 25 or so and I have been using a baton of faith with him for the past few levels. Never pulled my ghoulbane out since, even against undead.
Best part? The baton of faith costs less than 100pp :) As certain as I am you can find better weapon, I doubt the ratio usefulness / cost can be beaten.

[Crede]

Ghoulbane is trash. People seem to think pallies just wreck undead, really not the case in velious unless you get one of those tov dawncall weps. Based on your other gear you can definitely afford better. Reaver and a good haste are the priorities(it's very easy to find mobs that the reaver can hit). Pallies lack dps so get the absolute best 2h you can afford. From there just stack CHA & get the dw helm/bp.

Fun class, good luck.

[Trelaboon]

Fungi will make getting out of the early levels super easy. After level 45, you don’t really need one though. I used the DW BP and helm after that and put my fungi back on another character.

As others have said, getting a good two hander is a pretty big priority. DPS is pretty low without a good weapon, and it can make killing feel super grindy. If you had enough plat to add a Fungi, a Reaver and some decent haste item (even a 21% item would be fine), you’ll find things are super easy. Get to 45, then you can ditch the fungi for even just a PSC and a deepwater helm, if you wanted to allocate the money elsewhere

[Keebz]

If you go dwarf, the cultural plate is pretty bussin for random slots. The other cultural armors, not so much, but potentially very colorful if you're into that.

Current gear looks solid, though. Raw HP/Mana is great at the low levels. I'd echo what the others have said. At a some point you will want more wis/mana once the face roll slows down a little and you have to rely on your spellbook a bit more. As others have pointed out, boosting your CHA a bit (at the very least via items to equip temporarily) can also be nice for lulling your way around. This will be familiar to you if you've ever played ench/cleric/bard.

If you raid at all I can also suggest some specific twink items.

[Snaggles]

With the changes to the knight melee tables and the scaling damage bonus in the later levels pally dps with a reaver isn’t bad. I was smashing nobles with a reaver and DW Helm when it was whiff-city. These days with a fungi and the updates if you pick lower hp targets it’s probably on par with sk speed. Definitely better than a ranger unless you have an Earthcaller and sky cloak.

[spoil]

Thanks, lots of good info here. Hopefully I'll be able to find some groups but I'll be prepared to solo a lot at least into higher levels. Good to know it's not too bad with some haste and a solid 2h. I have a kobold's crown and I'll have to grab a crude stein since I gave mine away to a newbie enchanter.

I was thinking the venomous axe or jade mace will take me to level 20 and then damage cap jumps to 30 and I'll go 2h from there.

[darkreap]

Hey, I've been thinking about making a Pally but I'm clueless about the class. This is the gear I've collected so far:

* Neck: Black Sapphire Velium Necklace
* Head: Dragon Tooth Choker
* Ears1: Earring of Essence
* Ears2: Black Sapphire Electrum Earring
* Face: Crystal Spider Eyes
* Chest: Barbed Ringmail
* Arms: Crystal Chitin Armplates
* Back: White Bear Pelt Cloak
* Waist: Spike Seahorse Hide Belt
* Shoulders: Guardian Pauldrons
* Wrists1: Silver Chitin Wristband
* Wrists2: Silver Chitin Wristband
* Legs: Guardian Leggings
* Hands: Kobold Bone Gauntlets
* Fingers1: Velium Fire Wedding Ring
* Fingers2: Velium Fire Wedding Ring
* Feet: Lodizal Shell Boots

I also picked up a Ghoulbane. I could transfer a Spiked Seahorse Hide Belt from my Chanter main and maybe buy a Fungi to use temporarily, since I'll end up selling it when I can finally afford a Zheart. Looking for any suggestions on gear, particularly weapons for low - mid levels, relatively cheap upgrades or anything else useful for that journey besides Jboots MQ.

I put my recommendations into the armor spots. You won’t need the goblin skull earring till you get your HoT spell at 57 or 58. If you are able, the guardian armor is really good till you can get velious quest armor. Haste is your biggest upgrade, if not the belt, get schw

[Snaggles]

GCD clickies and junk buffs are always handy. Probably not as necessary though (situational rapid rooting) outside of group tanking. If you aren’t slotting FoL in #1 and clicking while tanking you are doing it wrong.

[spoil]

What do you think of the Sword of Blessings as an option for when I'm sword and board tanking? Seems to be a decent ratio and even adds a little AC and some mana.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_Blessings

I really know nothing about melee. Just thought of the sword because it would be pretty easy for me to farm.

[Snaggles]

It’s really good and has a solid look (runed falchion). Likely not much worse than a massive dragonbone shard.

[Infectious]

What do you think of the Sword of Blessings as an option for when I'm sword and board tanking? Seems to be a decent ratio and even adds a little AC and some mana.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_Blessings

I really know nothing about melee. Just thought of the sword because it would be pretty easy for me to farm.

Just drop 10k on rod of faith. Sword and board with sarnak shield until you hit 50s and switch to 2hs

[Snaggles]

Rod of faith is pretty bad. 24/32 is worse than 19/25 without a single dmg bonus point

[Loadsamoney]

Get a White Bear Pelt for your cloak. Fairly cheap since it's pally only and has amazing stats.

https://wiki.project1999.com/White_Bear_Pelt_Cloak

[Crede]

What do you think of the Sword of Blessings as an option for when I'm sword and board tanking? Seems to be a decent ratio and even adds a little AC and some mana.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_Blessings

I really know nothing about melee. Just thought of the sword because it would be pretty easy for me to farm.

Sword of blessings will be a nice option for grouping whenever you can't use reaver. And 55+ you could consider swapping out the reaver for narandi lance if you want to open up solo in more areas like HS/KC.

[spoil]

Get a White Bear Pelt for your cloak. Fairly cheap since it's pally only and has amazing stats.

https://wiki.project1999.com/White_Bear_Pelt_Cloak

Yeah I just picked that up the other day in a trade. It's almost like a hiero cloak and I also like wearing those class-specific items.

[Barlu]

What do you think of the Sword of Blessings as an option for when I'm sword and board tanking? Seems to be a decent ratio and even adds a little AC and some mana.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_Blessings

I really know nothing about melee. Just thought of the sword because it would be pretty easy for me to farm.

It’s a solid item if you have an enchanter to farm it yourself, or a group of friends to go adventure in lower dogs with but it can still be a pain. The guys loot table is garbage so most people spend their time doing Khelk or Brood Mother. If you plan on farming it yourself, get your pally to CE and camp out with invis. Use enchanter to paci all the see invis dogs all the way up passed khelk. You can safely camp on the ramp between Khelk and the other guy if you hug the left wall if you are looking down. Kill the named on the ramp to loot it.

[Toxigen]

It’s a solid item if you have an enchanter to farm it yourself, or a group of friends to go adventure in lower dogs with but it can still be a pain. The guys loot table is garbage so most people spend their time doing Khelk or Brood Mother. If you plan on farming it yourself, get your pally to CE and camp out with invis. Use enchanter to paci all the see invis dogs all the way up passed khelk. You can safely camp on the ramp between Khelk and the other guy if you hug the left wall if you are looking down. Kill the named on the ramp to loot it.

If you already have an enchanter capable of doing that you would be better off farming (or buying w/ farmed plat) a Jeldorin or MDS.

At least you can sell 'em too if you ever upgrade or strip it for another char.

84fsl41FAuU

[Crede]

If you already have an enchanter capable of doing that you would be better off farming (or buying w/ farmed plat) a Jeldorin or MDS.

At least you can sell 'em too if you ever upgrade or strip it for another char.

84fsl41FAuU

Nice vid. If ya go 1h on a pally though, you've already lost. Think someone said recently their pally's epic out dpses some ToV 1hnders.

[Toxigen]

Nice vid. If ya go 1h on a pally though, you've already lost. Think someone said recently their pally's epic out dpses some ToV 1hnders.

oh i agree totally, was just giving a better option for 1 handed slasher - all you really need is a reaver til narandi / epic (or natures defender)

just some folks like to have all their weapon skills maxed...or they get off on bash to interrupt instead of using a stun spell

[Crede]

oh i agree totally, was just giving a better option for 1 handed slasher - all you really need is a reaver til narandi / epic (or natures defender)

just some folks like to have all their weapon skills maxed...or they get off on bash to interrupt instead of using a stun spell

Yea bash is nice, getting epic for the bash swap is key for this.

[Snaggles]

No 1h is going to do great dps; with a Frostwrath or Sledge of Smashing you need some crazy proc rng on stuff it will land on. The Jeld at least has stats and some trickle healing for when you are just tanking. I forgot to equip my 2h on Dain once and did 25dps.

I still use my epic on occasion and the bash swap is really handy.

The BM camp is really chill. I like it. Plat wise it’s horrible. With the rapid declining price of a Jeldorin I’d decide if you really want it for your kit and just buy one. On blue they are like 15k I think. At least if you have a 60 Ench and like farming.

[spoil]

It’s a solid item if you have an enchanter to farm it yourself, or a group of friends to go adventure in lower dogs with but it can still be a pain. The guys loot table is garbage so most people spend their time doing Khelk or Brood Mother. If you plan on farming it yourself, get your pally to CE and camp out with invis. Use enchanter to paci all the see invis dogs all the way up passed khelk. You can safely camp on the ramp between Khelk and the other guy if you hug the left wall if you are looking down. Kill the named on the ramp to loot it.

Yeah, I'm going to pre park my Pally down there and paci/kill all the dogs on the path. Long corpse so I won't be in any big rush.

If you already have an enchanter capable of doing that you would be better off farming (or buying w/ farmed plat) a Jeldorin or MDS.

At least you can sell 'em too if you ever upgrade or strip it for another char.

84fsl41FAuU

I just bought dictate, will have to buy a Chardok faction package eventually and learn the zone. Seems like a tedious way to farm so I've been putting it off but too much loot there to ignore. Also want a couple earrings for the chanter and maybe the bandages clicky if I get super lucky.

[Snaggles]

Chardok plat for Ench’s is quite good. Battlemaster is an easy camp but really bad plat/hr.

[spoil]

Pally is level 38 now and has just been destroying Unrest basement with the Reaver. I like grouping and did a bit in HK but I'm enjoying being a powerful soloer while it lasts. Thinking maybe I'll head to Kaesora next. I've never been to Paineel before so also considering that.

[Crede]

Pally is level 38 now and has just been destroying Unrest basement with the Reaver. I like grouping and did a bit in HK but I'm enjoying being a powerful soloer while it lasts. Thinking maybe I'll head to Kaesora next. I've never been to Paineel before so also considering that.

It never really ends. Pallies have all the tools to continue to solo to 60 especially with some twink gear. It just slows down in the 50s. I didn’t know reaver worked against unrest but if so then kaesora is a solid spot to go to if it does work.

[Toxigen]

Pally is level 38 now and has just been destroying Unrest basement with the Reaver. I like grouping and did a bit in HK but I'm enjoying being a powerful soloer while it lasts. Thinking maybe I'll head to Kaesora next. I've never been to Paineel before so also considering that.

Get some 10 dose Kilva's for level 50 and beyond. Its fun...useful when you're in a tight spot and need a little extra oomph.

[Snaggles]

Congrats and thanks for the update :)

At 45 you actually get quite a bump due to the DW helm or Bp clicks. I’d probably do Oggok, Sol A gnomes, or Freeport to 45 and head to Grobb or Highkeep. HK is faster and easier but I was able to easily solo to 54 at the Grobb entrance. It did slow down quite a bit in the low 50’s.

[Toxigen]

Pally is level 38 now and has just been destroying Unrest basement with the Reaver. I like grouping and did a bit in HK but I'm enjoying being a powerful soloer while it lasts. Thinking maybe I'll head to Kaesora next. I've never been to Paineel before so also considering that.

Its hard to beat SolA if you need cash. I don't remember how twinked you are...but...

If you want a challenge, give Cazic Thule a try. You have to be conscious of mob positioning because there are some heals-through-walls action. Amazing ZEM. I'd start in the throne room area / upstairs from throne room...may be some exp greens but will get you comfortable lull-splitting before you step up to the pyramid area:

https://i.imgur.com/sj4p3lM.jpg

After that greens out you can stay out back just doing laps around the base of the temple til 43/44. There is a safe spot in the hall / tunnel leading towards it for easy AFKs / med.

FWIW I solo'd my pally there 30 ish to 43. I was rather mega twinked though.

[holaneko]

Ghoulbane is trash. People seem to think pallies just wreck undead, really not the case in velious unless you get one of those tov dawncall weps. Based on your other gear you can definitely afford better. Reaver and a good haste are the priorities(it's very easy to find mobs that the reaver can hit). Pallies lack dps so get the absolute best 2h you can afford. From there just stack CHA & get the dw helm/bp.

Fun class, good luck.

reaver is LORE only so it won't hit magic / UD targets. I got it for my pally - ran down to lower guk UD side to only see target is invulnerable msgs and searched and learned that reaver is piece of crap despite the seemingly amazing ratio of 40/40 and resists

[Crede]

reaver is LORE only so it won't hit magic / UD targets. I got it for my pally - ran down to lower guk UD side to only see target is invulnerable msgs and searched and learned that reaver is piece of crap despite the seemingly amazing ratio of 40/40 and resists

Reaver works in so many places. Lower guk undead is not one of them(it’ll work on the live side of lguk). You can easily level to 60 with it, but a lot of people end up getting the Lance at 55. It works on other undead as well, like in the hole and someone said they were using it in unrest basement. It’s not a reason to pass on the insane ratio it offers as you can easily supplement this with a magic wep when needed.

[Snaggles]

It works on some undead too. Like every guard in paineel and 99% things in Velious. Not to mention city guards, much of all Sol B and Chardok which is often your best path to 60.

1/1 ratio weapon with resist stats for raiding for $6k on blue? Oh yea, total crap…

[spoil]

Decided to head to Oggok since I actually haven't done that before. I think there are like 8 static guards on the route I'm trying to do and a couple pathers. Not sure I could handle more anyways before repops self-buffed. And definitely not regretting buying the Reaver.

[spoil]

Up to level fitty now, been killing troll guards. Deepwater BP is such a game-changer, also got a stave of shielding and divine might quest spell. Some of the trolls are starting to green out, but exp is still good to take me to 51 and pacify, then I'll be looking for a new hunting ground.

[Toxigen]

Hole entrance. The chicken nuggets are premo xp.

[spoil]

That sounds good, maybe even find the odd duo/group there since I haven't done that in a while. I might make a quick stop in Neriak first since I've never killed those guards before.

[Tnair]

As you approach endgame, you can begin to consider the most important gear choice: which color do you want your fashion plate armor to be

[spoil]

Yeah my fashion is lacking right now, though it could be worse -- at least I'm not wearing one of those buckets on my head.

[Argonos]

Cyndreela outside the fear portal...she is your queen.

[spoil]

Guards in neriak commons weren't worth it for me at this level. I killed them fine, didn't get any crit lull resists, but they hit really hard. I used my herbalist's spade first until I got a root proc, stepped back to click my bp, then finished them off. I even pulled them up the ramp and root usually broke before 20% so they would flee, but even with all that I had to heal a ton and that really slowed me down. Maybe a better spot to duo.

[Balimon]

Try the guards in 3rd gate, they are clerics and a lot easier!

[Toxigen]

y no hole tho

[Snaggles]

I’d take HK and later Chardok to The Hole. That place is depressing.

[Crede]

Get a dw Bp and go to kedge. Good until at least 57. Mermaids have the old oot cyclops loot table. Vendor right outside the zone on the island. Will easily pay for your jaspers. Not to mention huge zem in there.

[Toxigen]

Get a dw Bp and go to kedge. Good until at least 57. Mermaids have the old oot cyclops loot table. Vendor right outside the zone on the island. Will easily pay for your jaspers. Not to mention huge zem in there.

bigly

[enjchanter]

Are there ppl worrying about affording jaspers

[Toxigen]

Are there ppl worrying about affording jaspers

lol some enchanter on these forums is concerned with the cost of peridots

like wat

[spoil]

I have a dw bp, such an OP item. I haven't been playing the pally at all since dinging 52, leveled my druid to 51 and now my second enchanter is 43.

I won't kill in HK as I am a noble paladin. Kedge sounds interesting since I can also scope things out for my druid on a more forgiving class.

[Toxigen]

I have a dw bp, such an OP item. I haven't been playing the pally at all since dinging 52, leveled my druid to 51 and now my second enchanter is 43.

I won't kill in HK as I am a noble paladin. Kedge sounds interesting since I can also scope things out for my druid on a more forgiving class.

you should be able to charm bats in sol B on that druid now

[Snaggles]

If it’s any consolation the guard faction you tank killing nobles is the corrupt west and east faction lead by a deadite maniac. Pissing off Lucan is maybe the most paladin thing one can do. Just skip killing Isabella Cellus and Mistress Anna.

Plenty of other zones you can burn up though.

[spoil]

Thanks Snaggles, didn't know that. Never killed 'em before.

[Snaggles]

Thanks Snaggles, didn't know that. Never killed 'em before.

Oh yea. It's going to mess with some corrupt factions. East/west fp, qeynos. Highkeep and north fp vendors. The pally, bards, and cleric guilds will be vendor'able. the banker too as long as you dont sit near him or arent under level 45.

I went deep kos killing everything in sight. It's repairable but so long as you avoid getting Knights of Truth or Priests of Marr hits it wont impact your soulfire quest at all.

[spoil]

Little update. Been playing the pally on-and-off and just dinged 58. No gear upgrades for a while besides Narandi's Lance. I might head to KC to do a little grouping since I've been solo most of the way, but interested in any good solo spot suggestions for 58.

[Snaggles]

Neriak arena: Jacker, Mraak and Karnan.
Chardok ent and exit
Sol B, LDC’s.
Some select stuff in Lower Guk

[spoil]

Thanks. Was thinking Chardok, Sol B sounds like another decent option -- those Neriak arena mobs look pretty beefy. Unfortunately I think the highest level (43) dar knights and kor wizards are green at 58 so yeah there's not much in Guk.

[Keebz]

At 58 on my SK, I liked soloing at Velks and WL geonids because they were so easy to get to and you could just start grinding immediately while waiting for something better. Not sure how good they are as a pally, but they seem doable.

[Balimon]

Thanks. Was thinking Chardok, Sol B sounds like another decent option -- those Neriak arena mobs look pretty beefy. Unfortunately I think the highest level (43) dar knights and kor wizards are green at 58 so yeah there's not much in Guk.

Howling stones is great exp, you can do the basement no problem or even some stuff in north. Just keep a cap handy for trains. I waited till 59 to go there on pally and realized I should've gone earlier!

[spoil]

Thanks for the suggestions, great zones but I leveled/farmed in HS and Velks a lot on both my chanters. Looking for something different since I'm in no real rush to get 60 on the pally.

[Snaggles]

The velk spiders aren’t the easiest blues but would be tempting if you can solo them. Easy pickup groups, a nearby zone to flee to, easy to bum buffs, get rezzes, afk safely in GD, get a port out without more than a 2 minute run.

I’d make a hotkey “can you spare any buffs by chance?” and hope to see a werewolf headed up the ramps.

[Ripqozko]

The velk spiders aren’t the easiest blues but would be tempting if you can solo them. Easy pickup groups, a nearby zone to flee to, easy to bum buffs, get rezzes, afk safely in GD, get a port out without more than a 2 minute run.

I’d make a hotkey “can you spare any buffs by chance?” and hope to see a werewolf headed up the ramps.

i did velks from 57-60, wasnt bad, usually got free potg and enchanter buffs, makes it easier

[Barlu]

I did Turnkey in KC 58-60 and it was solid. I like HS too but the harm touch is a full extra BP heal and there are a lot more risky pulls where a crit lull fail is going to bring 3-4 mobs that will likely HT.

Turnkey has a safe spot to med on the stairs, and most pulls are 2 mobs max if you get a crit. You should be able to get stuff rooted and camp out if you have to on a bad pull. Can also pop DA and train out in classic KC fashion. I had a Dawncaller which was great to proc and then bp heal while it was ticking away so not sure what the efficiency will be without it. I’m guessing good ration 2 hander will be solid (maybe better?). Make sure to burn those DS pots.