Rot/Rotting broken?

[IzHaN80]

Hello fellow people. I've recently come across an issue that might impact the leveling efficiency of those that much enjoy the joys of rot/rooting mobs. To test this, you gotta pull a mob and have them root them in place, without having them hit you, casts dots on him, and watch his hp % drop. Then after you've done that test, try again by rooting them in place or if they were in movement, having them hit you before you start doting them or dot+fear, and study their hp, you will see the big difference, it acts as if the game only detects if the mob has stopped moving if they were static previous to the root or if they were moving, you or your pet, or your group mate needs to have the mob hit them to have their position updated.

Share your tests, i have done this already so many times, and is broken, and what's worse, without being able to watch DOT damage, a lot of people might be wasting their time thinking they're doing things right.

[cdfurry]

What you are seeing is in fact how it works. I am not sure broken is the right term in this timeline, as I believe this is how it worked until much later when it was fixed.

A feared mob or one in melee with player or pet will take full damage from dots.

A mob chasing a player while dotted will take reduced dot damage.

Rooting the mob still leaves it in the chase state until someone steps into melee or it is feared as you stated.

It does seem like a broken mechanic and it was addressed by patches later out of the timeline p99 is in I believe but I may be wrong. The main way to ensure dots do full damage is to jump in to take a hit after you root it and then back off.

[IzHaN80]

What you are seeing is in fact how it works. I am not sure broken is the right term in this timeline, as I believe this is how it worked until much later when it was fixed.

A feared mob or one in melee with player or pet will take full damage from dots.

A mob chasing a player while dotted will take reduced dot damage.

Rooting the mob still leaves it in the chase state until someone steps into melee or it is feared as you stated.

It does seem like a broken mechanic and it was addressed by patches later out of the timeline p99 is in I believe but I may be wrong. The main way to ensure dots do full damage is to jump in to take a hit after you root it and then back off.

if a mob is moving and you root him, is in fact, not moving anymore, and you shouldn't have to get hit or have someone melee the mob to make him take full dot damage. I mean, then what i am using roots then all this time? To prevent taking any damage from the mob.

If you root a stationary mob, he takes full damage, it doesn't make any sense that if you catch a moving mob or if root breaks and you re-root you gonna take damage to make the game update mobs position.

I consider this to be a bug and nothing to do with Classic

[PatChapp]

if a mob is moving and you root him, is in fact, not moving anymore, and you shouldn't have to get hit or have someone melee the mob to make him take full dot damage. I mean, then what i am using roots then all this time? To prevent taking any damage from the mob.

If you root a stationary mob, he takes full damage, it doesn't make any sense that if you catch a moving mob or if root breaks and you re-root you gonna take damage to make the game update mobs position.

I consider this to be a bug and nothing to do with Classic

P99 has shit mechanics,news

[Lich]

It's what we refer to as "ghost root" or "phantom root" and it's a stupid bug. I wish they would bring back chat messages for dot damage for this reason. Immolate was broken for months and was doing zero damage. The not classic argument for dot message is moot at this point.

[IzHaN80]

It's what we refer to as "ghost root" or "phantom root" and it's a stupid bug. I wish they would bring back chat messages for dot damage for this reason. Immolate was broken for months and was doing zero damage. The not classic argument for dot message is moot at this point.

Yeah, the not classic argument for this change was awful. I don't think anybody would have complain if we kept up the dot messages, and yeah, only for this sole reason, they should bring them back.

[Crede]

Yeah, the not classic argument for this change was awful. I don't think anybody would have complain if we kept up the dot messages, and yeah, only for this sole reason, they should bring them back.

Yea I’d rather have dot damage then pet windows on blue honestly.

[Silverback]

Do you have to tag the mob every re-root after root breaks to get full dot effect? Or even every root/reroot whether they break or not?

[Sizar]

This has been a known (bug?) for i dunno, couple years? Any time you have dots on a mob and then root, the game thinks they are still moving as far as your dot dmg / per tick is concerned. In order to then get the full dmg of your dot again you need to get into melee with it, get hit or at least swung at , and back off again

[IzHaN80]

Do you have to tag the mob every re-root after root breaks to get full dot effect? Or even every root/reroot whether they break or not?Yes, you have to let the mob swing at you or hit you as the previous poster mentioned, only because the mob did start moving and it seems like root doesn't tell the game they did stop until you come closer to the mob, that's how the game figures out the mob is stationary once again.

[DeadSurvivor]

Bleh, I made a Shaman then a I come across this post. Depressing but informative.

[Telin]

This will likely be fixed next patch. It’s working now on dev server. Just need to rule out any other issues with the fix.

[IzHaN80]

This will likely be fixed next patch. It’s working now on dev server. Just need to rule out any other issues with the fix.

Thank you, that would be great news!

[IzHaN80]

It's what we refer to as "ghost root" or "phantom root" and it's a stupid bug. I wish they would bring back chat messages for dot damage for this reason. Immolate was broken for months and was doing zero damage. The not classic argument for dot message is moot at this point.

I didn't play my Druid for a while, it is viable to root/rot on a Druid nowdays?

[Crede]

I didn't play my Druid for a while, it is viable to root/rot on a Druid nowdays?

Its viable with epic but you’re better off charming or quadding

[IzHaN80]

Its viable with epic but you’re better off charming or quadding

For me, Charming was always the route with my Druid, i was just wondering if the damage with Inmolate was noticiable, i guess i will test that at some point, just to satisfy my curiosity.

[Crede]

For me, Charming was always the route with my Druid, i was just wondering if the damage with Inmolate was noticiable, i guess i will test that at some point, just to satisfy my curiosity.

I never bothered with immolate. I just use epic and root dmg to finish off charmed mobs. And the occasional winged death to balance health.