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Topgunben
03-24-2023, 09:28 PM
I just finished watching “Outlast” on Netflix, and if you haven’t seen or heard of it, it’s a show based on surviving as a team in the Alaskan wilderness. The team that outlast every other teams gets to split a million dollars.

What’s been sad/interesting is that some of the players have been downright evil, albeit they say it’s all “part of the game”. Other players refuse to do anything that goes against their moral convictions and intend on being fair, honest and upright with their competition.

Are you the same person in the game as you are in real life?

Ekco
03-24-2023, 09:33 PM
Are you the same person in the game as you are in real life?

no, millions of kids beat hookers to death in grand theft auto for example. i will say that in a multiplayer setting it does change things a bit with it being a real person behind the screen instead of it being a NPC you're doing it to. i did some pretty fucking cruel shit to people while playing eve online that i still think about for example.

Patriam1066
03-24-2023, 09:33 PM
I just finished watching “Outlast” on Netflix, and if you haven’t seen or heard of it, it’s a show based on surviving as a team in the Alaskan wilderness. The team that outlast every other teams gets to split a million dollars.

What’s been sad/interesting is that some of the players have been downright evil, albeit they say it’s all “part of the game”. Other players refuse to do anything that goes against their moral convictions and intend on being fair, honest and upright with their competition.

Are you the same person in the game as you are in real life?

That was a messed up show man. The Kentucky / heroin team needs Christ

Trexller
03-24-2023, 09:34 PM
in real life im cordial, diplomatic and even empathic

in games, i'm cordial, diplomatic and competitive

in places like p99 forums, i operate with no rules, every single ridiculous thought is fair game

look at how far people have gone to "win" on p99, or even every other game, they hack the shit out of it

that's just a microcosm of what humans will do to win IRL.

there is a concept here which im failing to name, but its like, whatever your enemy will do, you have to do better, so like when your opponent uses dirty tactics to win, you have to play even dirtier because taking the high road only means that you lose.

so each side of the game plays dirtier, and dirtier and dirtier over the years

and that's american politics. nice guys will always finish last.

GinnasP99
03-24-2023, 09:41 PM
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unsunghero
03-24-2023, 11:13 PM
I just finished watching “Outlast” on Netflix, and if you haven’t seen or heard of it, it’s a show based on surviving as a team in the Alaskan wilderness. The team that outlast every other teams gets to split a million dollars.

What’s been sad/interesting is that some of the players have been downright evil, albeit they say it’s all “part of the game”. Other players refuse to do anything that goes against their moral convictions and intend on being fair, honest and upright with their competition.

Are you the same person in the game as you are in real life?

I mostly pick evil playthroughs in RPG’s, so yes

As a conservative the only moral highground I can claim is reg abortion which isn’t even seen as a moral highground by the left, and when I virtue signal about it I actually feel physically like throwing up because I have such a sour impression of chest thumping moral highground from seeing the left constantly do it. So when I do it myself I feel physically ill

On every other political stance I am seen as having the moral lowground, so evil playthrough fits IRL. Usually the characters end up more powerful, but your ending usually sucks

For example, the evil ending to one of my favorite snes RPG’s of all time Ogre Battle is a powerful demon you recruit named Galf kills you and takes over lol. Shittiest ending in the game

magnetaress
03-25-2023, 10:11 AM
yeah mine do

although i have experimented being evil

i always find myself gravitating towards paladinhood

truly purely evil characters die an ego death rather quickly once i realize that their actions are pointless 'within the game' and only a reflection of a pathological state of being which is suffering

the real trick is to play a 'good necromancer' or find good ways to justify purging an entire cities inhabitants for experience and loot (the halflings ARE TRULY EVIL (and especially the dwarves))

trust me they are up to no good... also those gnomes built that clock in qeynos! think about it

for example...

And so Mithaniel Marr created the minotaur race, intended to personify honor and courage
https://www.docdroid.net/MQv3Ccv/go?url=http://loreofnorrath.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/journal-of-a-disciple-of-marr/
-Journal of a Disciple of Marr

what a mindfuk -cypher-the matrix. gif (its been wiped)

Trexller
03-25-2023, 02:47 PM
https://www.docdroid.net/MQv3Ccv/go?url=http://loreofnorrath.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/journal-of-a-disciple-of-marr/


this is frickin cool

wuanahto
03-25-2023, 04:47 PM
This reminds me of those myspace pages where people judge themselves in public

Topgunben
03-25-2023, 07:07 PM
Maybe my question was more pointed towards how you would treat actual players in a multiplayer setting rather than NPCs. That being said, the thought of going into a school full of NPC children and gunning them down still seems sadistic. Yes I know they aren’t real, but that doesn’t change the fact that you are willingly doing this for enjoyment.

Back when Kunark was first released on live, I was strolling through the Dreadlands on my halfling Druid, when I came upon a fallen Giant. Upon inspection, I noticed there was a Treeweave tunic on him, so I happily took it. Not 3 minutes had passed and I was on my way, when a panicked shout came across my screen. “Please whoever took the Treeweave please give it back, that was intended for my alt”. I remained silent and kept the tunic for myself. Did I feel guilty about it? Not really. Was it theft? Maybe, hard to say.

Now that i am 22 years older, I probably would have given it back. I just feel like it’s the right thing to do, but back then it wasnt happening.

pink grapefruit
03-25-2023, 07:24 PM
Does this thread make sense from a bluebie perspective? Bc I kill players when I feel like it, which is frequently. And I’ve murdered no people irl yet but maybe that’s coming soon.

aussenseiter
03-25-2023, 07:31 PM
Does this thread make sense from a bluebie perspective? Bc I kill players when I feel like it, which is frequently. And I’ve murdered no people irl yet but maybe that’s coming soon.

https://i.redd.it/k4m9zwoy6kb41.jpg

Topgunben
03-25-2023, 07:35 PM
Does this thread make sense from a bluebie perspective? Bc I kill players when I feel like it, which is frequently. And I’ve murdered no people irl yet but maybe that’s coming soon.

Obviously when someone joins a PVP server they expect it to be complete and utter anarchy with no rules.

An example of taking it too far in my opinion would be; falsely befriending someone and gaining his/her trust over the course of months and years, and then obtaining their password through deception and then stealing all of their items and deleting their characters for the LULs. That to me seems like you have gone beyond reasonable competition and made being a piece of shit your modus operandi.

pink grapefruit
03-25-2023, 07:53 PM
https://i.redd.it/k4m9zwoy6kb41.jpg

you just never know what tomorrow may bring, is all i'm saying.

Obviously when someone joins a PVP server they expect it to be complete and utter anarchy with no rules.

An example of taking it too far in my opinion would be; falsely befriending someone and gaining his/her trust over the course of months and years, and then obtaining their password through deception and then stealing all of their items and deleting their characters for the LULs. That to me seems like you have gone beyond reasonable competition and made being a piece of shit your modus operandi.

maybe you need to invent a morality scale for in-game behavior and then one for irl behavior. simple questionnaire sorta thing. you got subjectivity on subjectivity on subjectivity here and that's not a great basis for much at all.

Basanos
03-25-2023, 08:04 PM
An example of taking it too far in my opinion would be; falsely befriending someone and gaining his/her trust over the course of months and years, and then obtaining their password through deception and then stealing all of their items and deleting their characters for the LULs. That to me seems like you have gone beyond reasonable competition and made being a piece of shit your modus operandi.That's a strangely apt description of American foreign policy

unsunghero
03-25-2023, 08:16 PM
When it comes to behavior towards other players in MMO’s I try to be courteous. In WoW on a pvp server I wouldn’t grief or gank noobs. I preferred as fair of a fight as I could get. This is why when battlegrounds came around I focused mostly on dominating those (and later arena) because world pvp fights are high-impossible to be fair to both sides in terms of situation and numbers

magnetaress
03-26-2023, 09:00 AM
Maybe my question was more pointed towards how you would treat actual players in a multiplayer setting rather than NPCs. That being said, the thought of going into a school full of NPC children and gunning them down still seems sadistic. Yes I know they aren’t real, but that doesn’t change the fact that you are willingly doing this for enjoyment.

Back when Kunark was first released on live, I was strolling through the Dreadlands on my halfling Druid, when I came upon a fallen Giant. Upon inspection, I noticed there was a Treeweave tunic on him, so I happily took it. Not 3 minutes had passed and I was on my way, when a panicked shout came across my screen. “Please whoever took the Treeweave please give it back, that was intended for my alt”. I remained silent and kept the tunic for myself. Did I feel guilty about it? Not really. Was it theft? Maybe, hard to say.

Now that i am 22 years older, I probably would have given it back. I just feel like it’s the right thing to do, but back then it wasnt happening.

There is no difference between the simulation and you.

I treat everyone the same. Npcs. Pcs. If I can be friends we can become friends in game. And I feel horrible killing the blackburrow gnolls for exp. Although I have done it. Felt guilty. Gone on a rampage in qeynos and surfall.

Honestly. There should be more diplomatic options and quests. Like the honeyymeads for Tumpy. And Farens tackle box. And red wine for neriak. Bandages for halflings. Muffins for the elfs.. etc... and they aught to be more involved getting faction in Runnyeye to buy ingredients and do tradeskills etc and take us up to lvl 50-60.

Eventually finishing up with bringing presents for the Lady Vox. Lord Nagefen. And fire and ice giants.

I'm like this irl to.

No I haven't killed any Hobbits irl. There's no reroll for fucking up hobbit faction. Like I said tho I feel empathy for the gnolls.